You seam to be simply changing the definitions of words just to suit your own viewpoints. That comment is no different than my saying:
I deny anybody the authority to tell me what is, or is not, a Honda Civic. I dont care if you call it a Ford Mustang. Not you, not Ford, not Honda, not Car and Driver Magazine. I am responsible for my own beliefs. It's between me and my car. Everybody else can butt out, unless they happen to be interested in my understanding of my car. In which case, I'll be glad to share what I've got.
Comparing religion with cars, eh? That's actually something I've never seen before, but then maybe I just haven't seen enough of these debates. What's wrong with the guy having his own personal religion? And why can't he apply the label "Christian"? I mean, that's a pretty broad label, so leave him be, I say.
If I went to a car mechanic and demanded a Mustang intake manifold, they might think I was crazy, but if I insisted long enough, they would order the part and hand it to me and say, "Here. You fix your Civic."
So why don't you just hand him links to the texts you are quoting (Gnosticism, etc.) and say, "Here. You be a Christian."
Just trying to be helpful... ignore me if you don't need this.
2.6.20-rc7 is in the testing directory. I've been running it since it was released last Wednesday, no problems. YMMV.
I'm glad that 2.6.20 has been released. I had serious problems with 2.6.19 and 2.6.19.1 (but now 2.6.19.2 is quite good). I expect the initial 2.6.20 will be much better. I'm going to reboot soon and try it out.:-)
Instead of telling them it's normal windows behaviour, why not next time educate them about basic system security. Tell them to use firefox, to stop downloading dodgy pr0n apps and to think about what they're doing. Suggest that they remove the superuser privileges on their normal accounts, and especially on their kids' accounts. Suggest the names of a decent spyware removal program and antivirus program. And they'll be fine.
I'd rather stay out of this, but I think you'll be interested to know: I just did some of what you describe for my friend. His power supply was failing, causing all kinds of weird behavior. Since he is my friend, I personally picked up the new power supply for him (but he paid for it), installed it, checked everything out, and he was up and running.
A week later? He's back. "Windows is rebooting." I went over. I checked everything again. Couldn't reproduce the problem right away.
For the guy above who posted calling me a liar, this is "just normal Windows." Because the default Windows setting is to reboot after a 64K dump. When that goes by in the blink of an eye, all he can tell me is that it rebooted.
So I suggested a LiveCD for him. I didn't have time to troubleshoot if some component on his motherboard was failing. I didn't want to reinstall the OS and try to migrate all his settings, documents, whatever, to a new install of Windows. Or Linux. And it would have been me if anyone.
In addition, he would never be able to run the specific applications he's using under a limited user account.
These are normal concerns shared my the majority of the windows users I have worked with over 10 years of computer support at large organizations (100,000+ Windows systems). A LiveCD was a good idea for this particular person. I agree it's not going to work for everybody.
Just the other day, I had a friend ask me, "Why is my computer rebooting?" (Xp BSOD with only a 64K dump. Goes by pretty fast.) Once I explained it was "just normal Windows," they asked me, "How can I get Linux?"
I explained it like this: "You can just download and burn a CD. Pop in the CD, reboot, magical linux." I didn't take the time to explain the different distros. But LiveCD's are that good.
I don't know that I agree with you. The Newton failed for other reasons in addition to the handwriting recognition problems.
As another counterexample, the slashdot article says: "It appears that no longer carries DLP TVs". Is that Toshiba? http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/dlp.asp Is that some big-name store that sells home theater equipment? But does that cast a pall over slashdot to the point that editors read the summaries before posting?
Heck, the US government has done far more than Microsoft, and by your logic all Americans should move to Canada.
The US government also does some good things, and Microsoft has done some good things. That's important here because there are people inside each that could (and still might) change things for the better.
But this debate is outside both. If you're a US citizen, you know how to change things. Moving to another country isn't the way to do it. But if you're a Microsoft customer, you have no choice but to vote with your dollars. The company has never, and probably will not for a long time, value customer satisfaction or ease of use more than profit. If you want that, you can try Apple, but they're not perfect either.
Just because there is no Free Open Source Software that's better than Windows -- and I'll admit, Windows beats Free Open Source Software in some places, like Windows compatibility -- but if you were to view it as a moral issue and insist on Free Open Source Software, your Windows 2000 machine could run until the hardware died (hypothetically, if Wine or some of the other Windows-compatibility open source efforts received enough support). What would that take? See below.
Once upon a time, everything ran until the hardware died. There was no "planned obsolescence." There was no "end of life" for software.
Doesn't it strike you as plain wrong when a company deliberately breaks something you purchased from them? It is a fact that Microsoft has been convicted of just these anti-competitive, "lock-in" practices. Far from proving that Microsoft's actions are wrong, this is only the best that can be done. Enough people felt it was wrong to take it to court and win a conviction.
Uh, they can't reply until the article goes live. And they aren't given any information on when it goes live. So he had to sit there and hit refresh and drive up page views just like anyone else would.
Sorry that we barged in. I hope the Google/NASA collaboration goes well. They both contribute a great deal to the area, and attract some smart, smart people.
Ditto here. I've heard of some good FTTP/FIOS providers, and I know Ma Bell is interested in getting into the market. Why do they have to anger everyone from the Federal Government (well, back in the Anti-Trust days) to the end users?
I guess I wasn't very clear in the part about why I joined slashdot. I joined slashdot to point out that after six years of MFC and Visual Studio coding, I think the APIs are not well documented, not easy to use, and generally inferior to X, Qt, and Gtk.
I deny the charge that I'm an astroturfer, and a quick review of my comment history should verify it. For your further information, here are some of my qualifications...can I have my geek card back, please?
I have never paid Microsoft for any software I used. (I used some while getting my degree, but I wouldn't have if I didn't have to.)
At work I use only linux, GNU software, and other open source software
I actively persuaded two people to get an iPod who were thinking of getting a Zune
I've been a sysadmin for HP/UX, Solaris, Irix, Linux, and Mac labs, again while getting my degree. I've also been forced to answer some support calls for Windows labs, and quickly disentangled myself from that obligation, since I was the only admin in the department who could admin all the other labs.
I am an author of parts of the linux kernel (which I actively maintain), and have submitted patches that were incorporated in Kino and GTK. Not super impressive, but I'm no Microsoft shill.
I've helped convinced numerous friends who work in IT to implement Open Source solutions when they were considering Microsoft alternatives.
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression I'm a Microsoft shill. Now, let's drink some blood wine and get back to improving linux.
There's more discussion in a later thread about how even non-technical people dislike using Microsoft products because of all the flaws. Random crashes. Slow and bloated systems (sometimes caused by teeming masses of virus and spyware infestations).
But for a minute I'm going to defend Microsoft. I'll start by pointing out that my very first post on a slashdot discussion was when someone said that the MSDN APIs are easy to learn and easy to use. I had to jump in, so I signed up.
Okay, Microsoft delivers what geeks want. It may be that the most powerful geeks are CTOs and PHBs and such, so Microsoft caters to them, but the Microsoft product line is pretty geeky. And geeks are not a Klingon race of perfectly rational beings who never make a mistake. There are geeks who buy Windows, build Windows IT infrastructure, and defend it here on slashdot. It makes a lot of sense.
But when something as innovative as the Open Source movement comes along, which definitely invades Microsoft's space, it is Microsoft who portrays this as a win/lose situation. Microsoft would never go out of business from Open Source software, even if they opened up access to all their software, patents, and IP tomorrow morning. With as big a name as they have, and their deep pockets, they could find a business plan that didn't directly counter Open Source.
So in Microsoft's defense, they do what geeks want. That's the result of the untold numbers of geeks inside and outside the company -- the ecosystem on which they live. But this fight they're trying to pick with the world is only going to get them in trouble. Poor Microsoft.
So, on the opposite side of the coin, these liberal and progressive Christian groups want to either convert the game into a blandgame for youngsters, or kill -9 it.
Pot calling the kettle black?
I think war games are an important education tool. (I'm also personally a fan of private gun ownership, so maybe I'm biased.) But watching what happens in the Emergency Room is considered educational. Then why not also the events on the battlefied. So in this one it's the Christians versus the Muslims. Maybe that's not in really good taste, but is it in good taste in Battlefield 2, Americans versus Muslims or Americans versus the Chinese? Or if the religious symbolism is offensive, what would you say if I showed you a game that's blatantly Satanic? My two cents says it doesn't matter.
Now, I'm curious if it has good gameplay. I'm guessing it doesn't ("After you kill somebody you need to recharge your soul points and to do that you need to bend down in prayer." from the CNN Article). Then we have nothing to worry about.
If you are as confused as I was when you read the linked article, notice that this article is linked from the first one. The first talks about the solar system "weather forecast." The second talks about the crew of the shuttle and ISS taking cover.
With our ingenuity, and if we were to have no conscience, we would have depleted the earth of its resources already
Sure, history shows many small towns existed by farming without driving any native species to extinction. They modified their environment, and may have cut the populations, but there just weren't enough humans to have that much of an effect.
So I'm not trying to be sensationalist, but it appears that we aren't native to the planet. If we were just a native species that went into a population boom, starved out, and died off, we wouldn't hit extinction. As it is, there's no going back, no middle ground. Either the human population will continue to grow (and we'll muddle through but not destroy the planet) -- or it's extinction for us.
If a pandemic wipes out 99% of the humans, that's not a human-induced extinction, though perhaps it's something we opened the door for. However, there are many ways that humans can trash the planet and then go extinct.
Okay, so you raise an interesting point. I agree with you that man is one step ahead by being aware of his impact on his environment and his dependence on the earth. But man seems like all those non-indigenous species introduced to places like Australia (see Cane Toad) which then multiply and threaten the extinction of native species.
I'm behind a corporate firewall and youtube.com is blocked. Is the same video on google video (it's not blocked...go figure) -- or would someone like to post it somewhere else?
Now, this may not make sense at first, but both Windows and Linux do it. I've looked into the reasons linux does it. This seems like a good starter.
I suspect Windows is updating file metadata. You know, the access time on the directory of an open file, or the system event log, etc.
People are generally interested in these sorts of things because they want disks to spin down overnight or on their laptop. It can take a bit of work to get to the point where linux is "stable" and won't write to disk any more, but it's a fun little exercise. Good luck getting Windows that way.
I haven't googled the Matrix or anything to check my facts, but my memory says Trinity did nmap on the 10.0.0.0/16 subnet and then sshnuke to get root on one of the terminals controlling parts of the power grid. sshnuke only works against older sshd v1.
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Don, you should know better. Godwin's Law.
Comparing religion with cars, eh? That's actually something I've never seen before, but then maybe I just haven't seen enough of these debates. What's wrong with the guy having his own personal religion? And why can't he apply the label "Christian"? I mean, that's a pretty broad label, so leave him be, I say.
If I went to a car mechanic and demanded a Mustang intake manifold, they might think I was crazy, but if I insisted long enough, they would order the part and hand it to me and say, "Here. You fix your Civic."
So why don't you just hand him links to the texts you are quoting (Gnosticism, etc.) and say, "Here. You be a Christian."
No one is going to post this?
"Two major products have come out of Berkeley, LSD and Unix. I don't believe this to be a coincidence."
- Jimmy S. Anderson
Hi Makyrae,
:-)
Just trying to be helpful... ignore me if you don't need this.
2.6.20-rc7 is in the testing directory. I've been running it since it was released last Wednesday, no problems. YMMV.
I'm glad that 2.6.20 has been released. I had serious problems with 2.6.19 and 2.6.19.1 (but now 2.6.19.2 is quite good). I expect the initial 2.6.20 will be much better. I'm going to reboot soon and try it out.
Best of luck!
I'd rather stay out of this, but I think you'll be interested to know: I just did some of what you describe for my friend. His power supply was failing, causing all kinds of weird behavior. Since he is my friend, I personally picked up the new power supply for him (but he paid for it), installed it, checked everything out, and he was up and running.
A week later? He's back. "Windows is rebooting." I went over. I checked everything again. Couldn't reproduce the problem right away.
For the guy above who posted calling me a liar, this is "just normal Windows." Because the default Windows setting is to reboot after a 64K dump. When that goes by in the blink of an eye, all he can tell me is that it rebooted.
So I suggested a LiveCD for him. I didn't have time to troubleshoot if some component on his motherboard was failing. I didn't want to reinstall the OS and try to migrate all his settings, documents, whatever, to a new install of Windows. Or Linux. And it would have been me if anyone.
In addition, he would never be able to run the specific applications he's using under a limited user account.
These are normal concerns shared my the majority of the windows users I have worked with over 10 years of computer support at large organizations (100,000+ Windows systems). A LiveCD was a good idea for this particular person. I agree it's not going to work for everybody.
LiveCD's.
Just the other day, I had a friend ask me, "Why is my computer rebooting?" (Xp BSOD with only a 64K dump. Goes by pretty fast.) Once I explained it was "just normal Windows," they asked me, "How can I get Linux?"
I explained it like this: "You can just download and burn a CD. Pop in the CD, reboot, magical linux." I didn't take the time to explain the different distros. But LiveCD's are that good.
I don't know that I agree with you. The Newton failed for other reasons in addition to the handwriting recognition problems.
As another counterexample, the slashdot article says: "It appears that no longer carries DLP TVs". Is that Toshiba? http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisions/dlp.asp Is that some big-name store that sells home theater equipment? But does that cast a pall over slashdot to the point that editors read the summaries before posting?
Heck, the US government has done far more than Microsoft, and by your logic all Americans should move to Canada.
The US government also does some good things, and Microsoft has done some good things. That's important here because there are people inside each that could (and still might) change things for the better.
But this debate is outside both. If you're a US citizen, you know how to change things. Moving to another country isn't the way to do it. But if you're a Microsoft customer, you have no choice but to vote with your dollars. The company has never, and probably will not for a long time, value customer satisfaction or ease of use more than profit. If you want that, you can try Apple, but they're not perfect either.
Just because there is no Free Open Source Software that's better than Windows -- and I'll admit, Windows beats Free Open Source Software in some places, like Windows compatibility -- but if you were to view it as a moral issue and insist on Free Open Source Software, your Windows 2000 machine could run until the hardware died (hypothetically, if Wine or some of the other Windows-compatibility open source efforts received enough support). What would that take? See below.
Once upon a time, everything ran until the hardware died. There was no "planned obsolescence." There was no "end of life" for software.
Doesn't it strike you as plain wrong when a company deliberately breaks something you purchased from them? It is a fact that Microsoft has been convicted of just these anti-competitive, "lock-in" practices. Far from proving that Microsoft's actions are wrong, this is only the best that can be done. Enough people felt it was wrong to take it to court and win a conviction.
The rest is up to you. And me.
Uh, they can't reply until the article goes live. And they aren't given any information on when it goes live. So he had to sit there and hit refresh and drive up page views just like anyone else would.
Sorry, that wasn't meant to be a rant.
Sorry that we barged in. I hope the Google/NASA collaboration goes well. They both contribute a great deal to the area, and attract some smart, smart people.
Thanks for a good review!
Ditto here. I've heard of some good FTTP/FIOS providers, and I know Ma Bell is interested in getting into the market. Why do they have to anger everyone from the Federal Government (well, back in the Anti-Trust days) to the end users?
I deny the charge that I'm an astroturfer, and a quick review of my comment history should verify it. For your further information, here are some of my qualifications...can I have my geek card back, please?
I'm sorry if I gave you the impression I'm a Microsoft shill. Now, let's drink some blood wine and get back to improving linux.
There's more discussion in a later thread about how even non-technical people dislike using Microsoft products because of all the flaws. Random crashes. Slow and bloated systems (sometimes caused by teeming masses of virus and spyware infestations).
But for a minute I'm going to defend Microsoft. I'll start by pointing out that my very first post on a slashdot discussion was when someone said that the MSDN APIs are easy to learn and easy to use. I had to jump in, so I signed up.
Okay, Microsoft delivers what geeks want. It may be that the most powerful geeks are CTOs and PHBs and such, so Microsoft caters to them, but the Microsoft product line is pretty geeky. And geeks are not a Klingon race of perfectly rational beings who never make a mistake. There are geeks who buy Windows, build Windows IT infrastructure, and defend it here on slashdot. It makes a lot of sense.
But when something as innovative as the Open Source movement comes along, which definitely invades Microsoft's space, it is Microsoft who portrays this as a win/lose situation. Microsoft would never go out of business from Open Source software, even if they opened up access to all their software, patents, and IP tomorrow morning. With as big a name as they have, and their deep pockets, they could find a business plan that didn't directly counter Open Source.
So in Microsoft's defense, they do what geeks want. That's the result of the untold numbers of geeks inside and outside the company -- the ecosystem on which they live. But this fight they're trying to pick with the world is only going to get them in trouble. Poor Microsoft.
Thanks for giving me a chuckle.
So, on the opposite side of the coin, these liberal and progressive Christian groups want to either convert the game into a bland game for youngsters, or kill -9 it.
Pot calling the kettle black?
I think war games are an important education tool. (I'm also personally a fan of private gun ownership, so maybe I'm biased.) But watching what happens in the Emergency Room is considered educational. Then why not also the events on the battlefied. So in this one it's the Christians versus the Muslims. Maybe that's not in really good taste, but is it in good taste in Battlefield 2, Americans versus Muslims or Americans versus the Chinese? Or if the religious symbolism is offensive, what would you say if I showed you a game that's blatantly Satanic? My two cents says it doesn't matter.
Now, I'm curious if it has good gameplay. I'm guessing it doesn't ("After you kill somebody you need to recharge your soul points and to do that you need to bend down in prayer." from the CNN Article). Then we have nothing to worry about.
If you are as confused as I was when you read the linked article, notice that this article is linked from the first one. The first talks about the solar system "weather forecast." The second talks about the crew of the shuttle and ISS taking cover.
With our ingenuity, and if we were to have no conscience, we would have depleted the earth of its resources already
Sure, history shows many small towns existed by farming without driving any native species to extinction. They modified their environment, and may have cut the populations, but there just weren't enough humans to have that much of an effect.
So I'm not trying to be sensationalist, but it appears that we aren't native to the planet. If we were just a native species that went into a population boom, starved out, and died off, we wouldn't hit extinction. As it is, there's no going back, no middle ground. Either the human population will continue to grow (and we'll muddle through but not destroy the planet) -- or it's extinction for us.
If a pandemic wipes out 99% of the humans, that's not a human-induced extinction, though perhaps it's something we opened the door for. However, there are many ways that humans can trash the planet and then go extinct.
Okay, so you raise an interesting point. I agree with you that man is one step ahead by being aware of his impact on his environment and his dependence on the earth. But man seems like all those non-indigenous species introduced to places like Australia (see Cane Toad) which then multiply and threaten the extinction of native species.
Is "modern man" native to this planet?
Never mind, it's on Google video.
I'm behind a corporate firewall and youtube.com is blocked. Is the same video on google video (it's not blocked...go figure) -- or would someone like to post it somewhere else?
Thanks!
I can grind up snails to put on my wounds...
Or I can get the pretty girl sitting next to me to kiss it better
nuf said.
You're noticing the disk driver flush to disk.
Now, this may not make sense at first, but both Windows and Linux do it. I've looked into the reasons linux does it. This seems like a good starter.
I suspect Windows is updating file metadata. You know, the access time on the directory of an open file, or the system event log, etc.
People are generally interested in these sorts of things because they want disks to spin down overnight or on their laptop. It can take a bit of work to get to the point where linux is "stable" and won't write to disk any more, but it's a fun little exercise. Good luck getting Windows that way.
I haven't googled the Matrix or anything to check my facts, but my memory says Trinity did nmap on the 10.0.0.0/16 subnet and then sshnuke to get root on one of the terminals controlling parts of the power grid. sshnuke only works against older sshd v1.
Huh, wikipedia agrees with me. Cool movie!