It is ludicrous to say and act as if any naturally occurring substances are patentable as though the gene etc was created by the patentee. The most that could be said to be patentable is the process that allowed the discovery. Even uses cannot be said to be patentable as the gene or naturally occurring substance may already have been performing that activity or activities.
Hmmm, this means that if i go and patent my own genetic issues then i will be able to impose a levy upon anyone else who has the problems, gather fees from researchers etc. Right, then i will go and patent blue eyes, nostrils etc. i am going to be very very rich NOT.
Talk about shades of the sand pit; it's mine, i want it, gimme, wahhhhh, thump.
The lawyers are suggesting that someone may wish to buy Hans' business because the legal bills are too much and his lawyers are saying that whoever buys it would be a vulture? No doubt the lawyers are working the case pro bono NOT!
So we are well into the realm of data addiction where all that can be will be stored in vast cupboards lining the house walls. People will be wiring themselves up to record their days - not just talking either, but recording all the data from personalised body sensors. The ultimate in nose-picking, booger heaven, egocentricity. People will have static data clones of themselves just waiting to uncoil themselves. Hey maybe they can populate all the Net Lands and then a group of "I" can exchange data at the end of the day. How about feeding it into the "I Prime" during sleep times? This way everyone will have multiple personalities and no-one will ever be alone again whether they want it or not.
Before the above happens there is the matter of terabyte hard drives. Soon we will be able to lose even more than we ever could previously. 1 little scratch, a scuff mark, and the disk becomes useless. Plus we would need 2 terabytes of hard disks why? First a terabyte of stuff to put on the dvd, then another terabyte for all the temp files and other files produced when making a new dvd.
What you say is true but there is a big fence to jump and that is when one just has so much control of a market that folks start to think in terms of monopolies. One possible way to dilute that perception may well be to have limited fail strategies so that it can be demonstrated that Google is demonstrating a prudent "testing of the waters" without over-committing capital. Folks tend to think more kindly of someone who loses a little - stops them being freaked out by juggernautitis.
Perhaps another point is also to watch the hand that doesn't seem to be doing anything.
Hmm, these selectively bred cats are soooo cheap at only almost $US7,000 to many overseas countries. $7,000? I am starting to get an idea that the extremist group, Earth First, may have the right idea in that abusing creatures just to make money sucks big time - cats for cuteness, horses for speed, dogs that cannot breathe properly or have open skulls. This isn't even a matter of food for survival. Stewardship?
This may have been posted already (aged eyes miss things) but whilst the students may indeed download material off the Net, they may do so for purposes already legally permitted, that is use of limited sections of the authors work(s) for purposes of education (NOT mass copying straight into a paper either verbatim or rephrased), the same cannot be said for www.turnitin.com who are gathering masses of original work on a database and are using that material to make a profit - this would seem to me to be a clear breach of copyright.
Has anyone considered informing the authorities of www.turnitin's dubious practises vis a vis copyright law?
the problem with this approach to widespread dissemination is that it is a tool, not a moral position. As a tool it can be used by other folks who may not have such high ideals in mind.
So people who are artists, lawyers, bee keepers, terrorists, paedophiles,.......(fill in occupation/interest/whatever) may communicate with each other very rapidly and at length around the globe.
For governments who's existence depends on being able to control its citizens the internet represents potential chaos and anarchy. Therefore Governements of all shapes and sizes see the need to reign in such disorganized freedoms. In fact, where ever control is a necessary function of existence the internet poses a threat.
Oddly, even though government and business are frequently in bed together, business likes the notion of open slather internet trading and business. Do they see it as being the purest form of free market where they may charge for every little thing? A virgin territory ready to be plundered before bureaucratic regulation turns the 'Net into a morass.
The Internet is a big toolbox and how it is used depends on the user and those who control it. Hey, remember, guns don't do any harm, it's the user.
There is a trade off chaos and/or anarchy with all the festering nasty bits like paedophile people or control of some sorts where the festery bits are minimised as much as possible.
Bouncing up and down in the air will not stop governments trying to exert control. Nor will disorganized attempts at strewing information around the 'Net. That just gives clearer indications of what holes to fill.
But we all know that if we have the equivalent of encrypted black networks replacing the open ones then all the lice will breed as well.
It would depend on which building they were in. A number of the buildings at RMIT are quite old, lined with all sorts of materials. They did make an endeavour to remove all the absestos, of which there was a lot. No doubt there are other noxious materials that used to be thought non-carcinogenic (i was a post-grad at RMIT in one of the older buildings).
Folks often speak of "cancer" as they do"flu", or "pneumonia"; this is very misleading as there are many different types of cancerS, influenzaS, and pneumoniaS.
So i can say that i have non-Hodgkins lymphoma (a cancer of the lymph system); my mother died of myeloma (cancer of the bones. Plus my grandfather died of stomach cancer and my uncle died of throat cancer and my aunt has cancer of the pancreas. ( A little experience here, folks).
It is possible for one individual to contract multiple types of cancer.
All of these cancers are different types. There is not one cancer that every contracts.
I understand that cancer is the disruption of normal cell life - the controls that act upon a cell are bypassed or destroyed and the cell grows without limit.
Now all of us have cells, therefore all of us may contract cancer. But some of us may be genetically more prone to specific types of cancer than others. Then there are certain chemicals, such as the benzenes, that are known carcinogens, so it doesn't matter what your family history is - you can still be at risk of developing a cancer.
Do you think i can get healthcare in the US? It is hard for me to get healthcare anywhere.
But as far as health insurers go, they are not about providing health cover, they are about covering health risk, so the less risk to them then the better is the bet. Quite simply, it is a gamble. They are taking a bet that you will stay healthy and keep paying premiums - if that happens then they make money, just like a bookmaker.If you become sick or injured then they lose the bet and you win whatever was included in your health package.
When a person has a family history of illness, disease, etc then the odds change. Sometimes, according to actuarial tables, the risk is too high for the insurer to cover.
It is nothing personal. It is business and it is gambling, that's what insurance is about.
Well, computer simulations have been used for quite a while now for things like piloting aircraft, learning to sail supertankers, driving lessons etc and they appear to have runs on the board. My concerns involve the line between reality and simulation - like if you shoot, bash, kick someone on a computer screen or in VR then that's ok 'cos they are not real, but if you do the same sort of things in reality then the stuff will hit the fan. Training soldiers works on a very fundamental level so they react rather than philosophise or ponder multiple alternative options over a cup of coffee. If the soldier has been trained with what will always be a finite number of responses then what happens when the soldier is presented with something that didn't cross the programmers mind? Even if the programmers have been sourcing their information from experienced warriors and cultural experts the likelihood is that us humans, being what we are, will respond in other than textbook ways.
I am curious to know where market research ends and industrial espionage begins. Data mining seems, in some respects, to go beyond mere research when specific companies are selected for "research". In essence there is no agregation of information to present industry-wide assessments and forecasts. Or am i drawing a rather long bow here?
Speaking as an ex-cancer patient, no it wont cos the medication we are on, both during chemotherapy and after it, means we can't drink alcohol, so beer drinking is a preventative only. That must have been a sadistic bugger who invented it if it means you drink more and we cant. Sigh. Lucky i like the taste of cardboard.
Well, perhaps the institute could be taken to court for false advertising?
But keep in mind that the recording industry is attempting to have p2p and file sharing added to the most advantageous criminal laws they can find; this will allow them to use police to enter premises in order to seize and search. Plus by maing it a crime then when the recording folks pursue civil court action then they will already have a criminal conviction to bolster their case.
I can envisage that the recording industry will argue that piracy & p2p are tantamount to terrorism in so far as p2p etc are taking away the rights of entertainers to earn a living. This totally ignores the money that the legal and quasi legal folks are making by exploiting these issues.
I take the view that all nuclear waste ought to be inserted into carefully selected politicians and bureaucrats. The P & B containers may then be transported to a desolate place. But, and this is crucial, the quantity of PBNWC's has to be calculated so that, periodically, they will become self-cleansing in a thermonuclear kind of way.
Another approach might well be to use deep mine shafts in isolated locations. These will, when loaded with sufficient quantities of PBNWC's explode thus creating a large underground chamber which will, in turn, allow for greater stoarge capacity.
It would be expected that the selection of both the politician and of the bureaucrat will provide an unlimited source of containers.
The steps outlined above ought to allow the core of this planet to remain hottish for the forseeable future. Into this we ought to be able to sink pipes so as to benefit from core-based geothermal energy. Thus we might then rightly be able to assert that power derives from politics and bureaucracy being located in the most efficient place. And the world will truely run on bullsh1t.
Thank you.
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It is ludicrous to say and act as if any naturally occurring substances are patentable as though the gene etc was created by the patentee. The most that could be said to be patentable is the process that allowed the discovery. Even uses cannot be said to be patentable as the gene or naturally occurring substance may already have been performing that activity or activities. Hmmm, this means that if i go and patent my own genetic issues then i will be able to impose a levy upon anyone else who has the problems, gather fees from researchers etc. Right, then i will go and patent blue eyes, nostrils etc. i am going to be very very rich NOT. Talk about shades of the sand pit; it's mine, i want it, gimme, wahhhhh, thump.
The lawyers are suggesting that someone may wish to buy Hans' business because the legal bills are too much and his lawyers are saying that whoever buys it would be a vulture? No doubt the lawyers are working the case pro bono NOT!
So we are well into the realm of data addiction where all that can be will be stored in vast cupboards lining the house walls. People will be wiring themselves up to record their days - not just talking either, but recording all the data from personalised body sensors. The ultimate in nose-picking, booger heaven, egocentricity. People will have static data clones of themselves just waiting to uncoil themselves. Hey maybe they can populate all the Net Lands and then a group of "I" can exchange data at the end of the day. How about feeding it into the "I Prime" during sleep times? This way everyone will have multiple personalities and no-one will ever be alone again whether they want it or not. Before the above happens there is the matter of terabyte hard drives. Soon we will be able to lose even more than we ever could previously. 1 little scratch, a scuff mark, and the disk becomes useless. Plus we would need 2 terabytes of hard disks why? First a terabyte of stuff to put on the dvd, then another terabyte for all the temp files and other files produced when making a new dvd.
What you say is true but there is a big fence to jump and that is when one just has so much control of a market that folks start to think in terms of monopolies. One possible way to dilute that perception may well be to have limited fail strategies so that it can be demonstrated that Google is demonstrating a prudent "testing of the waters" without over-committing capital. Folks tend to think more kindly of someone who loses a little - stops them being freaked out by juggernautitis. Perhaps another point is also to watch the hand that doesn't seem to be doing anything.
Hmm, these selectively bred cats are soooo cheap at only almost $US7,000 to many overseas countries. $7,000? I am starting to get an idea that the extremist group, Earth First, may have the right idea in that abusing creatures just to make money sucks big time - cats for cuteness, horses for speed, dogs that cannot breathe properly or have open skulls. This isn't even a matter of food for survival. Stewardship?
This may have been posted already (aged eyes miss things) but whilst the students may indeed download material off the Net, they may do so for purposes already legally permitted, that is use of limited sections of the authors work(s) for purposes of education (NOT mass copying straight into a paper either verbatim or rephrased), the same cannot be said for www.turnitin.com who are gathering masses of original work on a database and are using that material to make a profit - this would seem to me to be a clear breach of copyright. Has anyone considered informing the authorities of www.turnitin's dubious practises vis a vis copyright law?
the problem with this approach to widespread dissemination is that it is a tool, not a moral position. As a tool it can be used by other folks who may not have such high ideals in mind. So people who are artists, lawyers, bee keepers, terrorists, paedophiles, .......(fill in occupation/interest/whatever) may communicate with each other very rapidly and at length around the globe.
For governments who's existence depends on being able to control its citizens the internet represents potential chaos and anarchy. Therefore Governements of all shapes and sizes see the need to reign in such disorganized freedoms. In fact, where ever control is a necessary function of existence the internet poses a threat.
Oddly, even though government and business are frequently in bed together, business likes the notion of open slather internet trading and business. Do they see it as being the purest form of free market where they may charge for every little thing? A virgin territory ready to be plundered before bureaucratic regulation turns the 'Net into a morass.
The Internet is a big toolbox and how it is used depends on the user and those who control it. Hey, remember, guns don't do any harm, it's the user.
There is a trade off chaos and/or anarchy with all the festering nasty bits like paedophile people or control of some sorts where the festery bits are minimised as much as possible.
Bouncing up and down in the air will not stop governments trying to exert control. Nor will disorganized attempts at strewing information around the 'Net. That just gives clearer indications of what holes to fill.
But we all know that if we have the equivalent of encrypted black networks replacing the open ones then all the lice will breed as well.
It would depend on which building they were in. A number of the buildings at RMIT are quite old, lined with all sorts of materials. They did make an endeavour to remove all the absestos, of which there was a lot. No doubt there are other noxious materials that used to be thought non-carcinogenic (i was a post-grad at RMIT in one of the older buildings).
Folks often speak of "cancer" as they do"flu", or "pneumonia"; this is very misleading as there are many different types of cancerS, influenzaS, and pneumoniaS. So i can say that i have non-Hodgkins lymphoma (a cancer of the lymph system); my mother died of myeloma (cancer of the bones. Plus my grandfather died of stomach cancer and my uncle died of throat cancer and my aunt has cancer of the pancreas. ( A little experience here, folks). It is possible for one individual to contract multiple types of cancer. All of these cancers are different types. There is not one cancer that every contracts. I understand that cancer is the disruption of normal cell life - the controls that act upon a cell are bypassed or destroyed and the cell grows without limit. Now all of us have cells, therefore all of us may contract cancer. But some of us may be genetically more prone to specific types of cancer than others. Then there are certain chemicals, such as the benzenes, that are known carcinogens, so it doesn't matter what your family history is - you can still be at risk of developing a cancer. Do you think i can get healthcare in the US? It is hard for me to get healthcare anywhere. But as far as health insurers go, they are not about providing health cover, they are about covering health risk, so the less risk to them then the better is the bet. Quite simply, it is a gamble. They are taking a bet that you will stay healthy and keep paying premiums - if that happens then they make money, just like a bookmaker.If you become sick or injured then they lose the bet and you win whatever was included in your health package. When a person has a family history of illness, disease, etc then the odds change. Sometimes, according to actuarial tables, the risk is too high for the insurer to cover. It is nothing personal. It is business and it is gambling, that's what insurance is about.
Well, computer simulations have been used for quite a while now for things like piloting aircraft, learning to sail supertankers, driving lessons etc and they appear to have runs on the board. My concerns involve the line between reality and simulation - like if you shoot, bash, kick someone on a computer screen or in VR then that's ok 'cos they are not real, but if you do the same sort of things in reality then the stuff will hit the fan. Training soldiers works on a very fundamental level so they react rather than philosophise or ponder multiple alternative options over a cup of coffee. If the soldier has been trained with what will always be a finite number of responses then what happens when the soldier is presented with something that didn't cross the programmers mind? Even if the programmers have been sourcing their information from experienced warriors and cultural experts the likelihood is that us humans, being what we are, will respond in other than textbook ways.
I am curious to know where market research ends and industrial espionage begins. Data mining seems, in some respects, to go beyond mere research when specific companies are selected for "research". In essence there is no agregation of information to present industry-wide assessments and forecasts. Or am i drawing a rather long bow here?
Speaking as an ex-cancer patient, no it wont cos the medication we are on, both during chemotherapy and after it, means we can't drink alcohol, so beer drinking is a preventative only. That must have been a sadistic bugger who invented it if it means you drink more and we cant. Sigh. Lucky i like the taste of cardboard.
Well, perhaps the institute could be taken to court for false advertising? But keep in mind that the recording industry is attempting to have p2p and file sharing added to the most advantageous criminal laws they can find; this will allow them to use police to enter premises in order to seize and search. Plus by maing it a crime then when the recording folks pursue civil court action then they will already have a criminal conviction to bolster their case. I can envisage that the recording industry will argue that piracy & p2p are tantamount to terrorism in so far as p2p etc are taking away the rights of entertainers to earn a living. This totally ignores the money that the legal and quasi legal folks are making by exploiting these issues.
I take the view that all nuclear waste ought to be inserted into carefully selected politicians and bureaucrats. The P & B containers may then be transported to a desolate place. But, and this is crucial, the quantity of PBNWC's has to be calculated so that, periodically, they will become self-cleansing in a thermonuclear kind of way. Another approach might well be to use deep mine shafts in isolated locations. These will, when loaded with sufficient quantities of PBNWC's explode thus creating a large underground chamber which will, in turn, allow for greater stoarge capacity. It would be expected that the selection of both the politician and of the bureaucrat will provide an unlimited source of containers. The steps outlined above ought to allow the core of this planet to remain hottish for the forseeable future. Into this we ought to be able to sink pipes so as to benefit from core-based geothermal energy. Thus we might then rightly be able to assert that power derives from politics and bureaucracy being located in the most efficient place. And the world will truely run on bullsh1t. Thank you.
The silver threads in the knickers are a good idea. That means if a werewolf bites him/her on the arse or crotch that the soldier will be protected.
I didn't know that the British armed forces were into the occult and supernatural.
It aint a reassuring thought.