Mr Simpson said the findings, which showed that lab rats developed tumours, were released by anti-GM campaigners in Wales. Dr Pusztai and a colleague used potatoes that had been genetically modified to produce a protein, lectin.
Doesn't anybody else think that it would be very strange to GM potatoes that were intended for food to produce lectin?
I think that these potatoes were being designed as a "biochemical factory", not to make french fries out of. If so, then the story really is, beware chemical production equipment that looks like ordinary food.
Of course it also means that someone is more likely to chop your hand off if they desperately want your data.
And it means no more dialing with your nose after you manage to wiggle your cell phone out of your pocket with your hands tied behind your back in the trunk of some kidnapper's car. Oh well, at least the kidnapper will have to ask your permission to make the ransom call before chopping your head off.
IANL, but here's a guess based on my one business law course:
If Amazon didn't charge your card originally (or charged for $0.00), then maybe they can claim that there was no sale because there was no consideration. Maybe, I don't know.
But if they did charge you, even $0.01, then there was consideration and they cannot not now unilaterally change the terms of their offer after the fact (i.e., after your credit card paid them).
My non-lawyerly comment: It's time that these online merchants were dealt with seriously by consumers. Maybe then they will allocate sufficient human resources to properly manage their business and not depend on their "long arm" to fix problems for themselves after they make these mistakes.
Kind of off topic, or maybe not. I couldn't help notice that a tracking feature is contained within the last two cell phones I've uesd. A feature called "assisted GPS" seems to mysteriously and unobtrusively be enabled by default from the factory. From what I understand, this location tracking feature is in addition to tracking one's location via cell tower triangulation.
Scary thing about this is that the vast majority of the people I talk to do not even know this feature is available, less enabled by default.
Interesting, though, how it was not so scary back in the Middle Ages (oh, say, 1950s to late 1990s) that anyone making a call from a telephone was effectively transmitting their exact physical location much more precisely than GPS + triangulation ever could. And imagine: law enforcement actually made use of that feature. Aaaaaaagghhhh! I'm going to have a nightmare tonight for sure.
Depend for emergency communication on a shared bandwidth communications link whose functioning depends on utility power availability coupled with some ISP's service plan, and maybe when the bad guys break in you won't get the call? Huh? You think?
Or, to put it another way, there's no guarantee that The Phone Company's own landline will work perfectly either, but if I had to bet my home on it, I'd go with TPC over VoIP.
In fact, personally, I've stuck with TPC landline because of E911, because my landline has always worked during NYC blackouts even when my cellular phone didn't, and because I have yet to see a VoIP service provider that would guarantee that if some guy in Afghanistan (or Milwaukee, for that matter) somehow manages to clone my SIP identity and proceeds to make N-billion dollars (well, amounts are relative to my savings account balance) worth of international phone calls, that they won't hold my feet to the fire if I refuse to pay the bill.
But of course, you may see things differently.
But do these folks actually pay for the stuff after they bid up the price? If so, then they aren't shilling, they're trying to control the supply. Not the same thing.
A shill working the crowd at a "real auction" can only influence people to bid more after his bid.
However, if you subscribe to ebay's suggested "proxy bid" method, a shill can move your real bid from its current low to its maximum, without you needing to get excited by his shill bidding.
FYI, in case you didn't know, ebay allows a bidder to "cancel" a bid that was "placed in error". A shill simply places a large bid, large enough to drive all of the current proxy bids to their maxima, and then cancels his large bid "mistake, need new glasses". Now, the item that was going to you for $10 is yours for $100 (or whatever maximum your proxy bid was set for). This would be a legitimate increase if it were driven by a legitimate bidder, but it's fraud when shill bidding is involved.
Ebay can certainly see which bidders consistently cancel their bids. Ebay doesn't care, they are happy to operate a den of thieves so long as they get their cut. IMNSHO, of course.
Here is an interesting article about where the health care money actually goes. Purportedly, about 30% goes to the insurance companies, not to doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies, or anyone else actually involved in delivering medical care.
(The article is free, though you have to sign up, for free, with Medscape before getting access to it.)
You must be one of those Americans, I can tell. Buy something, use it, throw it away and buy another. Bah!
Take that hard drive down to your basement and open her up. Blow out all the dust bunnies (use your breath, not that expensive canned air stuff). File the head surfaces so they are new and shiny. Buff the surfaces of the drive platters. Replace the air filter with cotton from a Q-tip. Clean and oil (not too much now) the bearings. Resolder any spots that look like they have gone cold. Put it all back together and seal any open areas with a small piece of duct tape. Voila!
In my country, we don't just throw away a used hard drive. You sissy Americans.
The stuff that dont make the national quality standards to get sold officialy, gets sold out of the back door to a handful of tame builders supliers in our city.
Why do you need to track them after you've seen them with guns? Just arrest them on sight.
Perhaps the report was made by a civillian?
Perhaps the policeman who saw them would like a buddy or two to back him up while he goes to arrest five "guys with guns"? He (or she -- could be a policewoman) might like to be able to enjoy dinner with the wife and kids later that night instead of being prepped for burial.
Still, knowing that a 7th grade class trip is on the way to the security line could allow them to make their attacks do even more damage (physically and psychologically). While it's hard to imagine 9/11 being worse than it was, the terrorists could have killed many more people in the towers if they had chosen a day when more people were in the buildings. While I agree with "way2trivial" above that killing people is not the ultimate goal of the terrorists, it sure helps their cause.
(Note: bolding of text above is mine, not that of the original poster.)
The first plane hit at 8:46 am, the second plane at 9:03 am. These were two huge office buildings in Manhattan, hit at the beginning of the second workday of the week (Tuesday). I don't know if they could have known which day would be more populated, but don't kid yourself -- they were certainly intent on killing people, not just wrecking the buildings. Otherwise they could have attacked at 3 am on a Sunday.
Of course not. These people aren't stupid. But at the time the article came out, Scientology was conducting a defamation campaign against me that included, among other things, anonymous faxes to various media outlets, most of whom were too smart to take the bait. But CAGW was eager to cooperate -- and very sloppy in their "reporting". Failing to contact me or the university for a response is simply inexcusable, but it's what one would expect with a deliberate hit-piece.
Yes, of course, what I should have written is that you hadn't provided us anything to back up the claim that it was the good ship LRH that prompted the article on you and it seemed to me that you were tarring CAGW with the Scientology brush as it were. There is no connection between the content of the CAGW article and the Clear-Cash-Org, so it seemed sort of a red herring.
I just thought (D'Oh!) of Googling "touretzky scientology" and now I see why they would have wanted to get you. So I can accept your claim based on reasonable extrapolation at least.
I got on their mailing list way back in the middle ages, and in the last few months for some reason the Scientology gang sent me pounds of slick junk mail. I'm not sure whether to be gleeful at their wasted advertising money or angry that it's all being subsidized by their religious tax-exemption. I'm both I guess.
touretzky writes:
Citizens Against Government Waste once ran a hit piece on me, prompted by the Church of Scientology.
The cagw.org article you linked to, nowhere mentions Scientology.
sumdumass (don't blame me, I didn't choose the username:-) makes a very good point here that is largely ignored in most discussions of this issue.
A useful comparison might be the problems faced when prosecuting organized crime, rather than the garden variety criminal suspect. In such cases, evidence, witnesses, and members of the judiciary often simply "disappear" once they are made known to the defense. And that's when the players are all in our court, not thousands of miles away in numerous other countries (I'm speaking from the US, but events in Europe and Asia might suggest that this is not a US-only problem).
This is a very difficult area, and while wholesale stripping of individual liberty is unacceptable, exposing the identities of our intelligence agents and the methods we use is also unacceptable.
You see how bad drivers are not and they really only have to worry about control on one axis. Do you really want people having to manage three axis worth of control?
I think you mean a single plane not one axis. And even that ignore's the effects of potholes.
.. and taking my above post one step further, this has to be a hoax, because when you report your cell phone stolen, the phone company will void the ESN so it can't be activated for service.
Not all cellular providers will void the ESN based on a report of theft, and at least some of those that do reportedly do so for only some period of time after the report, not "forever" (on the order of several months from what I've read on some of the cellular discussion newsgroups and forums).
To bring some perspective to PenGun's pithy statement, "Yes indeed... but not by the locals whose land was largly stolen from them. Certainly there was a sizable Jewish presense in Palestine at the time but the religious state that ensued wanted Israel for the Jews. Zionist terrorists persuded the locals to leave.", I include below an excerpt from Wikipedia's article on Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), from the section titled "Jewish Underground groups" (the section in bold type was bolded by me, not by Wikipedia, for emphasis):
As tensions grew between the Jewish and Arab populations, and with little apparent support from the British Mandate authorities, the Jewish community began to rely on itself for defense.
Arab nationalists, opposed to the Balfour declaration, the mandate, and the Jewish National Home, instigated riots and pogroms against Jews in Jerusalem, Hebron, Jaffa, and Haifa. As a result of the 1921 Arab attacks, the Haganah was formed to protect Jewish settlements. The Haganah was mostly defensive in nature, which among other things caused several members to split off and form the militant group Irgun (initially known as Hagana Bet) in 1931. The Irgun adhered to a much more active approach, which included attacks and initiation of armed actions against the British, such as attacking British military headquarters, the King David Hotel, which killed 91 people. Haganah on the other hand often preferred restraint. A further split occurred when Avraham Stern left the Irgun to form Lehi, (also known as the Stern Gang) which was much more extreme in its methods. Unlike the Irgun, they refused any co-operation with the British during World War II and even attempted to work with the Nazis to secure European Jewry's immigration to Israel.
You might also read the parts in that article (section title: "Zionism and Immigration") about how much of the land was purchased from the Arab landowners; not all of it was a "gift" from England or the UN/League of Nations. And you can also read about how Britain later restricted the purchase of land by Jews to placate the Arab nationalist groups.
The conflict has a very long history, and you, PenGun, apparently have an agenda.
just_the_facts wrote: Why do you think Isreal is targeting Lebanese civilians ?
I do not think that Israel is targetting Lebanese civilians.
I know that Israel is targetting the military apparatus of Hezbollah, Iran's proxy army in Lebanon.
I also know that Hezbollah has purposely intertwined its military operations into the civilian population of Lebanon.
Hezbollah's purpose in making themselves blend thoroughly into the civilian population, including launching missiles from alongside of suburban apartment buildings, is twofold. First, Hezbollah depends on Israel to try to avoid hitting civilians while trying to destroy the missile launchers, missiles, and Hezbollah soldiers, so that Israel doesn't have an unobstructed target (as they would if Hezbollah set up their missile launchers in an isolated area in Lebanon). Secondly, Hezbollah wants to draw Israeli fire to innocent civilians so that they can use the "dead babies" as propaganda photos. Hezbollah has a remarkably well organized propaganda machine in action, and the world press is largely providing Hezbollah with a magnificent distribution apparatus for their propaganda.
The difference bewteen Hezbollah's targets and those of Israel is that Hezbollah specifically targets civilian areas, with warheads that contain ball bearings whose only function is to rip through the flesh of the people (men, women, children, the aged and infirm) in the vicininity of the missile strike. Israel on the other hand is targetting missile launchers, missiles, weapon caches, and Hezbollah soldiers. The fact that Hezbollah has purposely placed all this stuff in and near apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, and so on, makes it impossible to completely avoid civilian casualties.
We have entered a new era of warfare: Hezbollah fighters who carry a baby in the one hand, and their gun in the other. Of course, nobody can shoot at them for fear of killing the baby. Of course, the Hezbollah soldier can murder anyone in his path, because the other side doesn't carry babies. Think about it, honestly.
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Here's an article on the dispute, linked to by the previously mentioned Wikipedia article: RP vs TP
TFA is just an advertisement for Kroll Ontrack. Basically "you can phone Kroll Ontrack ..", "the Ontrack data recovery specialist will ..", WTF?
I think that these potatoes were being designed as a "biochemical factory", not to make french fries out of. If so, then the story really is, beware chemical production equipment that looks like ordinary food.
IANL, but here's a guess based on my one business law course:
If Amazon didn't charge your card originally (or charged for $0.00), then maybe they can claim that there was no sale because there was no consideration. Maybe, I don't know.
But if they did charge you, even $0.01, then there was consideration and they cannot not now unilaterally change the terms of their offer after the fact (i.e., after your credit card paid them).
My non-lawyerly comment: It's time that these online merchants were dealt with seriously by consumers. Maybe then they will allocate sufficient human resources to properly manage their business and not depend on their "long arm" to fix problems for themselves after they make these mistakes.
Interesting, though, how it was not so scary back in the Middle Ages (oh, say, 1950s to late 1990s) that anyone making a call from a telephone was effectively transmitting their exact physical location much more precisely than GPS + triangulation ever could. And imagine: law enforcement actually made use of that feature. Aaaaaaagghhhh! I'm going to have a nightmare tonight for sure.
Depend for emergency communication on a shared bandwidth communications link whose functioning depends on utility power availability coupled with some ISP's service plan, and maybe when the bad guys break in you won't get the call? Huh? You think? Or, to put it another way, there's no guarantee that The Phone Company's own landline will work perfectly either, but if I had to bet my home on it, I'd go with TPC over VoIP. In fact, personally, I've stuck with TPC landline because of E911, because my landline has always worked during NYC blackouts even when my cellular phone didn't, and because I have yet to see a VoIP service provider that would guarantee that if some guy in Afghanistan (or Milwaukee, for that matter) somehow manages to clone my SIP identity and proceeds to make N-billion dollars (well, amounts are relative to my savings account balance) worth of international phone calls, that they won't hold my feet to the fire if I refuse to pay the bill. But of course, you may see things differently.
But do these folks actually pay for the stuff after they bid up the price? If so, then they aren't shilling, they're trying to control the supply. Not the same thing.
Oh, yeah, I forgot, ebay could also lower all of the proxy bids to the value they had prior to the cancelled shill bid, but they don't. D'Oh!
A shill working the crowd at a "real auction" can only influence people to bid more after his bid.
However, if you subscribe to ebay's suggested "proxy bid" method, a shill can move your real bid from its current low to its maximum, without you needing to get excited by his shill bidding.
FYI, in case you didn't know, ebay allows a bidder to "cancel" a bid that was "placed in error". A shill simply places a large bid, large enough to drive all of the current proxy bids to their maxima, and then cancels his large bid "mistake, need new glasses". Now, the item that was going to you for $10 is yours for $100 (or whatever maximum your proxy bid was set for). This would be a legitimate increase if it were driven by a legitimate bidder, but it's fraud when shill bidding is involved.
Ebay can certainly see which bidders consistently cancel their bids. Ebay doesn't care, they are happy to operate a den of thieves so long as they get their cut. IMNSHO, of course.
(no, I'm not going to write that) ...
usually wake up thirsty.
Here is an interesting article about where the health care money actually goes. Purportedly, about 30% goes to the insurance companies, not to doctors, nurses, pharmaceutical companies, or anyone else actually involved in delivering medical care.
(The article is free, though you have to sign up, for free, with Medscape before getting access to it.)
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/508911
You must be one of those Americans, I can tell. Buy something, use it, throw it away and buy another. Bah!
Take that hard drive down to your basement and open her up. Blow out all the dust bunnies (use your breath, not that expensive canned air stuff). File the head surfaces so they are new and shiny. Buff the surfaces of the drive platters. Replace the air filter with cotton from a Q-tip. Clean and oil (not too much now) the bearings. Resolder any spots that look like they have gone cold. Put it all back together and seal any open areas with a small piece of duct tape. Voila!
In my country, we don't just throw away a used hard drive. You sissy Americans.
I can see the wheels in the HMO financial officers' heads turning, turning, turning.
Perhaps the report was made by a civillian?
Perhaps the policeman who saw them would like a buddy or two to back him up while he goes to arrest five "guys with guns"? He (or she -- could be a policewoman) might like to be able to enjoy dinner with the wife and kids later that night instead of being prepped for burial.
(Note: bolding of text above is mine, not that of the original poster.)
The first plane hit at 8:46 am, the second plane at 9:03 am. These were two huge office buildings in Manhattan, hit at the beginning of the second workday of the week (Tuesday). I don't know if they could have known which day would be more populated, but don't kid yourself -- they were certainly intent on killing people, not just wrecking the buildings. Otherwise they could have attacked at 3 am on a Sunday.
touretzky writes:
Of course not. These people aren't stupid. But at the time the article came out, Scientology was conducting a defamation campaign against me that included, among other things, anonymous faxes to various media outlets, most of whom were too smart to take the bait. But CAGW was eager to cooperate -- and very sloppy in their "reporting". Failing to contact me or the university for a response is simply inexcusable, but it's what one would expect with a deliberate hit-piece.
Yes, of course, what I should have written is that you hadn't provided us anything to back up the claim that it was the good ship LRH that prompted the article on you and it seemed to me that you were tarring CAGW with the Scientology brush as it were. There is no connection between the content of the CAGW article and the Clear-Cash-Org, so it seemed sort of a red herring.
I just thought (D'Oh!) of Googling "touretzky scientology" and now I see why they would have wanted to get you. So I can accept your claim based on reasonable extrapolation at least. I got on their mailing list way back in the middle ages, and in the last few months for some reason the Scientology gang sent me pounds of slick junk mail. I'm not sure whether to be gleeful at their wasted advertising money or angry that it's all being subsidized by their religious tax-exemption. I'm both I guess.
touretzky writes: Citizens Against Government Waste once ran a hit piece on me, prompted by the Church of Scientology. The cagw.org article you linked to, nowhere mentions Scientology.
sumdumass (don't blame me, I didn't choose the username :-) makes a very good point here that is largely ignored in most discussions of this issue.
A useful comparison might be the problems faced when prosecuting organized crime, rather than the garden variety criminal suspect. In such cases, evidence, witnesses, and members of the judiciary often simply "disappear" once they are made known to the defense. And that's when the players are all in our court, not thousands of miles away in numerous other countries (I'm speaking from the US, but events in Europe and Asia might suggest that this is not a US-only problem).
This is a very difficult area, and while wholesale stripping of individual liberty is unacceptable, exposing the identities of our intelligence agents and the methods we use is also unacceptable.
You see how bad drivers are not and they really only have to worry about control on one axis. Do you really want people having to manage three axis worth of control?
I think you mean a single plane not one axis. And even that ignore's the effects of potholes.
Interesting, from that 2nd wikipedia article:
...
... and is inhaled by the open-mouthed crowd watching the display from below?
Realgar is an arsenic sulfide mineral with formula: -As4S4.
and
Realgar is also used by firework manufacturers to create the color white in fireworks
Let me finish that thought:
macadamia_harold writes:
.. and taking my above post one step further, this has to be a hoax, because when you report your cell phone stolen, the phone company will void the ESN so it can't be activated for service.
Not all cellular providers will void the ESN based on a report of theft, and at least some of those that do reportedly do so for only some period of time after the report, not "forever" (on the order of several months from what I've read on some of the cellular discussion newsgroups and forums).
To bring some perspective to PenGun's pithy statement, "Yes indeed ... but not by the locals whose land was largly stolen from them. Certainly there was a sizable Jewish presense in Palestine at the time but the religious state that ensued wanted Israel for the Jews. Zionist terrorists persuded the locals to leave.", I include below an excerpt from Wikipedia's article on Israel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), from the section titled "Jewish Underground groups" (the section in bold type was bolded by me, not by Wikipedia, for emphasis):
As tensions grew between the Jewish and Arab populations, and with little apparent support from the British Mandate authorities, the Jewish community began to rely on itself for defense. Arab nationalists, opposed to the Balfour declaration, the mandate, and the Jewish National Home, instigated riots and pogroms against Jews in Jerusalem, Hebron, Jaffa, and Haifa. As a result of the 1921 Arab attacks, the Haganah was formed to protect Jewish settlements. The Haganah was mostly defensive in nature, which among other things caused several members to split off and form the militant group Irgun (initially known as Hagana Bet) in 1931. The Irgun adhered to a much more active approach, which included attacks and initiation of armed actions against the British, such as attacking British military headquarters, the King David Hotel, which killed 91 people. Haganah on the other hand often preferred restraint. A further split occurred when Avraham Stern left the Irgun to form Lehi, (also known as the Stern Gang) which was much more extreme in its methods. Unlike the Irgun, they refused any co-operation with the British during World War II and even attempted to work with the Nazis to secure European Jewry's immigration to Israel.
You might also read the parts in that article (section title: "Zionism and Immigration") about how much of the land was purchased from the Arab landowners; not all of it was a "gift" from England or the UN/League of Nations. And you can also read about how Britain later restricted the purchase of land by Jews to placate the Arab nationalist groups.
The conflict has a very long history, and you, PenGun, apparently have an agenda.
just_the_facts wrote: Why do you think Isreal is targeting Lebanese civilians ?
I do not think that Israel is targetting Lebanese civilians.
I know that Israel is targetting the military apparatus of Hezbollah, Iran's proxy army in Lebanon.
I also know that Hezbollah has purposely intertwined its military operations into the civilian population of Lebanon.
Hezbollah's purpose in making themselves blend thoroughly into the civilian population, including launching missiles from alongside of suburban apartment buildings, is twofold. First, Hezbollah depends on Israel to try to avoid hitting civilians while trying to destroy the missile launchers, missiles, and Hezbollah soldiers, so that Israel doesn't have an unobstructed target (as they would if Hezbollah set up their missile launchers in an isolated area in Lebanon). Secondly, Hezbollah wants to draw Israeli fire to innocent civilians so that they can use the "dead babies" as propaganda photos. Hezbollah has a remarkably well organized propaganda machine in action, and the world press is largely providing Hezbollah with a magnificent distribution apparatus for their propaganda.
The difference bewteen Hezbollah's targets and those of Israel is that Hezbollah specifically targets civilian areas, with warheads that contain ball bearings whose only function is to rip through the flesh of the people (men, women, children, the aged and infirm) in the vicininity of the missile strike. Israel on the other hand is targetting missile launchers, missiles, weapon caches, and Hezbollah soldiers. The fact that Hezbollah has purposely placed all this stuff in and near apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, and so on, makes it impossible to completely avoid civilian casualties.
We have entered a new era of warfare: Hezbollah fighters who carry a baby in the one hand, and their gun in the other. Of course, nobody can shoot at them for fear of killing the baby. Of course, the Hezbollah soldier can murder anyone in his path, because the other side doesn't carry babies. Think about it, honestly.