I've been using it since 2000, and I didn't know about the -k switch, either. Really interesting. But then again, I've never found man to be very helpful for me. The way the documentation is laid out... I find much more help from the internet.
E16 is way way way outdated. Sure, some bugfixes are still provided, but it is not evolving. You need to give e17 a try. Either from svn (tutorials are around for most distros) or try a snapshot.
I will not argue that it's been a long time. I've been waiting a long time, too. I gave up on it years ago before recently trying again due to some positive things I was hearing.
But I follow the commits pretty regularly, and many of the component software and libraries are reaching a 1.0 and mature status. They have a very clear roadmap to reach a stable release. As I said, I'm not saying they will make a Christmas release. But to go from years of, "it will be done when it's done" to "possibly release by Christmas," that's a pretty major shift in thinking.
But I'm not taking the developers' word for it, nor should you take mine. Try it out. I think you will be impressed with the progress. It truly is already in a workable state for day-to-day use.
While news on the site may have been sparse, quite a lot of work has been going on with E17 development. The developers had released a roadmap showing that perhaps it would be ready for a Christmas release. While I doubt that milestone will be achieved, it has made significant progress.
I've been using it for months as my desktop at home and on my laptop. It is quite usable and I've had zero crashes for a while now. Rasterman has always had a focus on small-screen devices, so this development doesn't surprise me. But if you haven't checked it out in a while, you should.
This happened to me. They setup my iphone in the store. When I tried out the app store, I could not figure out why some stranger's email address was there and it was asking for some password. I searched all over that phone for a way to change those settings...
Eventually learned what I needed to do. Then had to find a computer with windows on it, install itunes, and plug up my phone. Set it up correctly, then had to uninstall itunes and make sure my account info wasn't stored on that pc.
This is addressed in the more newbie-friendly distros.
For example, if I use a media player (doesn't matter which one) in ubuntu to play an AAC file, it will pop-up a window telling me that it needs to install software to play that file. I just click to install, and presto, it's there.
mp3 didn't play out of the box either, but the first time I tried playing one, it gave me the info about it not being free, etc, and then let me install the codecs.
Using ubuntu as a newbie is most likely a very smooth sailing experience. It's when you try to do things that A REAL NEWBIE would not be doing that you run into other issues. And I would argue that means you are not a newbie and are willing to spend more time to understand the underlying processes.
Nice idea, but thanks to the patriot act, you can no longer do things like this.
If you purchase one and have it shipped somewhere, you still have to register and setup the card online or by phone. There is no such thing as an anonymous card.
I think, as a general rule, most people do tell some lies. It just makes social situations easier, and sometimes it is done without even considering it. I see more cost associated with ensuring total honesty in all situations. Again, just my personal thoughts on this particular issue. I try to live honestly, but I don't see myself as totally honest all times.
Everyone makes assumptions about people, that is just life. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. Your point about the question being subjective is true. As I said previously, a test like that will always have some room for error and should never be the only criteria used for a purpose.
But, as a general indicator or screening for other concerns, I think they are very useful. And, a "lie" scale on a test would not be based on that one question. There would be several (or many) that someone would have to answer "incorrectly" to give the appearance of deception.
I only used that as an example. But as you state in your reply, there are still technical reasons to uphold the question as valid. Also, you have lied in the past, so answering the question in the affirmative would still technically be dishonest.
I am a psychologist, and I do not subscribe to the idea that these tests are without flaws or that they should make up a major part of any decision-making process, whether that be deciding on hiring a person or diagnosing someone with depression. But they do have value as one tool in a toolbox.
I am interested in your ability to live your life in a way where you are firmly committed to never telling a lie. While I do think that allowing someone to make erroneous conclusions while I remain silent is deceptive, the idea of never verbally lying is interesting. Never even little white lies?
As a psychologist, I'm familiar with the "House-Tree-Person" test, which is a personality test devised maybe in the 50's(?). You can gather quick information about someone by looking at the drawings, but by NO MEANS should those results be used alone.
It would never hold up in court, and could only be used to "screen" for issues that are then followed up on with more psychometrically sound instruments and interview.
I'm a psychologist, and I was always taught that tests are a component of an evaluation. They can be used as "short-cuts" to learning important things about someone, but cannot be the be-all, end-all. The psych should have taken those issues into context.
However, I would think whatever test you took would use more than one or two questions to determine bi-polar or depression...
As someone who works in the mental health field, while you have a good idea, it's not always that simple. I'm not familiar with tests used in an employment setting, but am familiar with testing children/adolescents for various things.
Most tests have a "lie" scale. This means that there are questions that are worded in a way to make someone who is trying to make themselves look good answer them in the affirmative when a more honest answer would be to answer in the negative. A broad example would be, "I always tell the truth." Obviously, the honest answer would be no.
Sorry, but the simple fact that someone IS suicidal indicates that there is something wrong. There is no rational reason for suicide and it goes against the basic idea of self-preservation. So, I would say someone who is suicidal is NOT rational.
I don't know why you think you would take a hit, because you make valid points.
I think the fact that this issue involved an adult harassing a child makes it a problem. I don't believe she would have knowingly done this if she knew suicide would be the outcome. But the point remains that adults are not supposed to treat children like that. And I don't see how anyone can say that Lori's actions did not contribute to the suicide.
I also agree with you about the different types of people. I work in a school system and it fascinates me. It is one of the only settings in life where you spend a large portion of your time with a group of people that you are placed with and have no control over where they come from, who they are, or how they act.
I'm shocked anyone would mark you insightful. As a psychologist, I call BULLSHIT on your "map." First, what IQ tests were used? How do the tests correlate to one another since they would be different and in different languages. Also, the IQ score is not some derived score based on some criteria. It is normed on the population. Therefore, an IQ test given in the US would be normed (100 = average score) on the population. So... are the other countries' scores based on the US population?
Also, considering a score of 70 is mild retardation, that would imply the average person in Australia is retarded! Seriously? That does not make any sense at all.
This map looks like someone just colored in ideas of what they wanted. Unless you can back it up with actual NUMBERS and METHODOLOGY, this looks like complete fabrication.
Yeah, it must be nice to have every manufacturer write drivers for Windows. However, I think you would find that a Linux live cd would detect much more of your hardware and be in a much more usable state than Windows XP or Vista. Since you seem inquisitive about things, why don't you give it a try and then you will be a little more knowledgeable before just saying things that have no bearing on the argument.
The gnome-kde debate is of no real importance; people use what they prefer. But I did want to address a few points that I feel you are not completely accurate on.
The project started as a Win32 wannabe (typical Icszaza Project) and you still can see that left and right. The apis are 10 times harder to utilize and feel more like hodge podge as Windows does.
Everything starts somewhere, gnome not being an exception to that. But I believe kde's interface started much much more as a windows look-a-like. I don't know that I can swallow the idea that the underlying api's of gnome were designed to reflect windows.
The approach the gnome project follows, if a user cannot understand something, then lets remove it without any possibility to get it back is simply wrong. Torvalds called this approach User Interface nazis. Ok the mileage may vary, but I personally feel locked in if I use gnome, and many people, whom I know do the same, solution kick gnome switch to kde.
I think this is a matter of opinion. I prefer the cleaner interface and do not feel locked in. For others, they hate it. But this is opinion only and does not really further the argument of kde's superiority.
While KDE is not perfect, they are in a way better direction from a long term usability standpoint. They are somewhat hodge podge in the user interface, but, they are in the long term process of cleaning everything up without reducing the functionalities loved by so many users.
I think it's great that kde developers are spending some time rethinking the UI. I find that to be a huge flaw for me (but again, merely opinion).
The same happens now with Dolphin and konqueror, Konqueror still is there, but it is not the sane default anymore. I personally would miss konqueror to a huge degree, no other file manager on any system has its flexibility, its own fault simply was you had to learn to use it, because its user interface was not slick. But on the other hand, compared to Finder or Nautilus, Explorer or whatever you name it, the thing really deserved the title file manager.
On the other hand Nautilus while becoming faster took a huge nosedive in its usefulness when being moved from the old 1.0 naultilus (which was not more usable than the windows explorer and dreadfully slow) to the spatial 2.0, without any possibility to fall back at least on the 1.0 user interface!
I am excited about Dolphin; I would argue that kde is recognizing that there is some benefit from a slimmed down application. It looks similar to xfce's Thunar, which I think is the best file manager currently. Although konqueror is amazing, it is a little too "be all, end all" for me.
Just so you know, there is an ability to run nautilus with the old interface "nautilus --no-desktop --browser" from the command line. So, you can update the Nautilus entry in a menu to reflect that line. Just wanted to clarify on that.
The same goes down on the API level, the KDE api is one of the cleanest I have ever seen, second to none, everything purely oo, everything purely component oriented highly flexible.
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I've been using it since 2000, and I didn't know about the -k switch, either. Really interesting. But then again, I've never found man to be very helpful for me. The way the documentation is laid out... I find much more help from the internet.
E16 is way way way outdated. Sure, some bugfixes are still provided, but it is not evolving. You need to give e17 a try. Either from svn (tutorials are around for most distros) or try a snapshot.
I will not argue that it's been a long time. I've been waiting a long time, too. I gave up on it years ago before recently trying again due to some positive things I was hearing.
But I follow the commits pretty regularly, and many of the component software and libraries are reaching a 1.0 and mature status. They have a very clear roadmap to reach a stable release. As I said, I'm not saying they will make a Christmas release. But to go from years of, "it will be done when it's done" to "possibly release by Christmas," that's a pretty major shift in thinking.
But I'm not taking the developers' word for it, nor should you take mine. Try it out. I think you will be impressed with the progress. It truly is already in a workable state for day-to-day use.
I've been using it for months as my desktop at home and on my laptop. It is quite usable and I've had zero crashes for a while now. Rasterman has always had a focus on small-screen devices, so this development doesn't surprise me. But if you haven't checked it out in a while, you should.
Wow, that's nasty. I especially loved watching this video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=940_1205955519
It's a shame, then, that the iPhone doesn't have a video camera...
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Well... mastering "cat" does fall along the same lines.
I'm partial to the sourcemage way of doing things:
The package manager is called "sorcery" and to install software, it's "cast [spell]", like "cast firefox".
To remove software, it's "despell firefox". The repositories are called "grimoires" and to search, you "gaze". Fun from a geek perspective.
This happened to me. They setup my iphone in the store. When I tried out the app store, I could not figure out why some stranger's email address was there and it was asking for some password. I searched all over that phone for a way to change those settings...
Eventually learned what I needed to do. Then had to find a computer with windows on it, install itunes, and plug up my phone. Set it up correctly, then had to uninstall itunes and make sure my account info wasn't stored on that pc.
Ridiculous!
For example, if I use a media player (doesn't matter which one) in ubuntu to play an AAC file, it will pop-up a window telling me that it needs to install software to play that file. I just click to install, and presto, it's there.
mp3 didn't play out of the box either, but the first time I tried playing one, it gave me the info about it not being free, etc, and then let me install the codecs.
Using ubuntu as a newbie is most likely a very smooth sailing experience. It's when you try to do things that A REAL NEWBIE would not be doing that you run into other issues. And I would argue that means you are not a newbie and are willing to spend more time to understand the underlying processes.
Nice idea, but thanks to the patriot act, you can no longer do things like this. If you purchase one and have it shipped somewhere, you still have to register and setup the card online or by phone. There is no such thing as an anonymous card.
I think, as a general rule, most people do tell some lies. It just makes social situations easier, and sometimes it is done without even considering it. I see more cost associated with ensuring total honesty in all situations. Again, just my personal thoughts on this particular issue. I try to live honestly, but I don't see myself as totally honest all times.
Everyone makes assumptions about people, that is just life. Sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. Your point about the question being subjective is true. As I said previously, a test like that will always have some room for error and should never be the only criteria used for a purpose.
But, as a general indicator or screening for other concerns, I think they are very useful. And, a "lie" scale on a test would not be based on that one question. There would be several (or many) that someone would have to answer "incorrectly" to give the appearance of deception.
I only used that as an example. But as you state in your reply, there are still technical reasons to uphold the question as valid. Also, you have lied in the past, so answering the question in the affirmative would still technically be dishonest.
I am a psychologist, and I do not subscribe to the idea that these tests are without flaws or that they should make up a major part of any decision-making process, whether that be deciding on hiring a person or diagnosing someone with depression. But they do have value as one tool in a toolbox.
I am interested in your ability to live your life in a way where you are firmly committed to never telling a lie. While I do think that allowing someone to make erroneous conclusions while I remain silent is deceptive, the idea of never verbally lying is interesting. Never even little white lies?
As a psychologist, I'm familiar with the "House-Tree-Person" test, which is a personality test devised maybe in the 50's(?). You can gather quick information about someone by looking at the drawings, but by NO MEANS should those results be used alone.
It would never hold up in court, and could only be used to "screen" for issues that are then followed up on with more psychometrically sound instruments and interview.
I'm a psychologist, and I was always taught that tests are a component of an evaluation. They can be used as "short-cuts" to learning important things about someone, but cannot be the be-all, end-all. The psych should have taken those issues into context.
However, I would think whatever test you took would use more than one or two questions to determine bi-polar or depression...
As someone who works in the mental health field, while you have a good idea, it's not always that simple. I'm not familiar with tests used in an employment setting, but am familiar with testing children/adolescents for various things. Most tests have a "lie" scale. This means that there are questions that are worded in a way to make someone who is trying to make themselves look good answer them in the affirmative when a more honest answer would be to answer in the negative. A broad example would be, "I always tell the truth." Obviously, the honest answer would be no.
Sorry, but the simple fact that someone IS suicidal indicates that there is something wrong. There is no rational reason for suicide and it goes against the basic idea of self-preservation. So, I would say someone who is suicidal is NOT rational.
I don't know why you think you would take a hit, because you make valid points. I think the fact that this issue involved an adult harassing a child makes it a problem. I don't believe she would have knowingly done this if she knew suicide would be the outcome. But the point remains that adults are not supposed to treat children like that. And I don't see how anyone can say that Lori's actions did not contribute to the suicide. I also agree with you about the different types of people. I work in a school system and it fascinates me. It is one of the only settings in life where you spend a large portion of your time with a group of people that you are placed with and have no control over where they come from, who they are, or how they act.
Just a question: Do you consider abortion an action that has informed consent?
I'm shocked anyone would mark you insightful. As a psychologist, I call BULLSHIT on your "map." First, what IQ tests were used? How do the tests correlate to one another since they would be different and in different languages. Also, the IQ score is not some derived score based on some criteria. It is normed on the population. Therefore, an IQ test given in the US would be normed (100 = average score) on the population. So... are the other countries' scores based on the US population? Also, considering a score of 70 is mild retardation, that would imply the average person in Australia is retarded! Seriously? That does not make any sense at all. This map looks like someone just colored in ideas of what they wanted. Unless you can back it up with actual NUMBERS and METHODOLOGY, this looks like complete fabrication.
So... you are libertarian then. Call it what it is.
Yeah, it must be nice to have every manufacturer write drivers for Windows. However, I think you would find that a Linux live cd would detect much more of your hardware and be in a much more usable state than Windows XP or Vista. Since you seem inquisitive about things, why don't you give it a try and then you will be a little more knowledgeable before just saying things that have no bearing on the argument.
The gnome-kde debate is of no real importance; people use what they prefer. But I did want to address a few points that I feel you are not completely accurate on.
The project started as a Win32 wannabe (typical Icszaza Project) and you still can see that left and right. The apis are 10 times harder to utilize and feel more like hodge podge as Windows does.Everything starts somewhere, gnome not being an exception to that. But I believe kde's interface started much much more as a windows look-a-like. I don't know that I can swallow the idea that the underlying api's of gnome were designed to reflect windows.
The approach the gnome project follows, if a user cannot understand something, then lets remove it without any possibility to get it back is simply wrong. Torvalds called this approach User Interface nazis. Ok the mileage may vary, but I personally feel locked in if I use gnome, and many people, whom I know do the same, solution kick gnome switch to kde.I think this is a matter of opinion. I prefer the cleaner interface and do not feel locked in. For others, they hate it. But this is opinion only and does not really further the argument of kde's superiority.
While KDE is not perfect, they are in a way better direction from a long term usability standpoint. They are somewhat hodge podge in the user interface, but, they are in the long term process of cleaning everything up without reducing the functionalities loved by so many users.I think it's great that kde developers are spending some time rethinking the UI. I find that to be a huge flaw for me (but again, merely opinion).
The same happens now with Dolphin and konqueror, Konqueror still is there, but it is not the sane default anymore. I personally would miss konqueror to a huge degree, no other file manager on any system has its flexibility, its own fault simply was you had to learn to use it, because its user interface was not slick. But on the other hand, compared to Finder or Nautilus, Explorer or whatever you name it, the thing really deserved the title file manager.On the other hand Nautilus while becoming faster took a huge nosedive in its usefulness when being moved from the old 1.0 naultilus (which was not more usable than the windows explorer and dreadfully slow) to the spatial 2.0, without any possibility to fall back at least on the 1.0 user interface!
I am excited about Dolphin; I would argue that kde is recognizing that there is some benefit from a slimmed down application. It looks similar to xfce's Thunar, which I think is the best file manager currently. Although konqueror is amazing, it is a little too "be all, end all" for me.
Just so you know, there is an ability to run nautilus with the old interface "nautilus --no-desktop --browser" from the command line. So, you can update the Nautilus entry in a menu to reflect that line. Just wanted to clarify on that.
The same goes down on the API level, the KDE api is one of the cleanest I have ever seen, second to none, everything purely oo, everything purely component oriented highly flexible.Agreed.
Actually, this comes from the Old Testament of the Bible:
What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again,
there is nothing new under the sun.
Ecclesiastes 1:9