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Texas Makes Zombie Fire Ants

eldavojohn writes "What do you do when a foreign species has been introduced to your land from another continent? Bring over the natural predator from the other continent. Scientists in Texas have introduced four kinds of phorid flies from South America to fight fire ants. These USDA approved flies dive bomb ants and lay an egg inside the ant. The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie that wanders around for two weeks before the head falls off and the ant dies. A couple of these flies will cause the ants to modify their behavior and this will be a very slow acting solution to curb the $1 billion in damage these ants do to Texas cattle ranches and — oddly enough — electrical equipment like circuit breakers. You may remember zombifying parasites hitting insects like cockroaches."

398 comments

  1. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I for one welcome our new Zombie Fire Ant overlords.

    1. Re:Anonymous Coward by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Funny

      I for one welcome our new Zombie Fire Ant overlords.

      Somebody with an ant farm moderated you a Troll.

    2. Re:Anonymous Coward by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't know if zombie ants can be overlords. They lack brains.

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    3. Re:Anonymous Coward by spun · · Score: 1

      came for this. Thanks AC

      No doubt. On behalf of all of us, I hereby grant the AC the "Most Appropriate Use of the 'I for one welcome..' Meme Ever" Award.

      Ants, people. Ants in space... zombie fire ants... Would you like us a draw you a map, or a diagram of some kind? With colorful labels and arrows?

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    4. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, we'll be fine. We just need to make sure we have some yellow prepared. And maybe some blue, just to be safe.

    5. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I came here to welcome our USDA approved overlords, but this will do.

    6. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I for one welcome our new Zombie Fire Ant overlords.

      So do I. They have already been tested and proven effective. Don't believe me? They let a bag of them loose in the Oval Office eight years ago. But the zombie has not yet croaked nine years later.

    7. Re:Anonymous Coward by numbski · · Score: 1

      ....brains..........**drool**

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    8. Re:Anonymous Coward by numbski · · Score: 1

      Oh wait, I'm sorry: ...smoothie!......smoooooothie......*drool*

      http://g4tv.com/xplay/videos/9892/Zombie-Public-Service-Announcement.html

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    9. Re:Anonymous Coward by deets101 · · Score: 1

      It works for the Democrats.

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    10. Re:Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zombie ants in Texas. More proof Texas does a lousy job with executions.

    11. Re:Anonymous Coward by bandmassa · · Score: 1

      Hmm. They introduced the cane toad into Australia to fight the cane beetle. The cane toad became a bigger pest than the beetle it was supposed to feed on.

      When you introduce a species into a remote ecosystem, there is always the risk of an unpredictable reaction. If the phorids develop a taste for local ants, there is the makings of a serious natural disaster.

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  2. Eh. by James+Skarzinskas · · Score: 5, Funny

    You call this a zombie apocalypse? This ain't nothing compared to the zombie attack of 57.

    1. Re:Eh. by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think they've already gotten to the politicians first. The brain dead are sometimes hard to tell apart from normal people.

    2. Re:Eh. by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Those that keep getting reelected seem smart enough.

      It's the "normal people" I worry about.

      Many politicians just pretend to be stupid because in many cases voters prefer voting for people who are like them (i.e. stupid).

      In some places voters might prefer voting for people who are smarter. But in others, appearing to be smart seems to lose you votes.

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    3. Re:Eh. by spun · · Score: 1

      Have you ever read the essay, "Santaland Diaries," by David Sedaris? He worked as an elf in Santaland in the mall. Funny story, true story, one day a busload of mentally challenged folks came in. He couldn't tell for sure where in the line that busload ended and where the regular New Yorkers started up again.

      "Everyone looks retarded if you put your mind to it."
      --David Sedaris

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    4. Re:Eh. by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Have you ever read the essay, "Santaland Diaries," by David Sedaris?

      No.

      Have you ever watched One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Michael Douglas, the producer, complained to somebody that the mental patients never seem to get out of character. Somebody informed him that many of the extras on the film were recruited from an actual mental hospital.

      I'm not going to mention Kramer here.

    5. Re:Eh. by nyctopterus · · Score: 1

      How is this even remotely surprising? Being "mentally challenged" doesn't mean you have to look odd. We're looking at the tail end of the bell curve here, not some alien species.

    6. Re:Eh. by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      I think they've already gotten to the politicians first.

      But I thought they were all Crab People...

    7. Re:Eh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But, do you look funny because you are at the very flat end of the bell, or is it genetic? Wait - the two reasons are one and the same, right?

    8. Re:Eh. by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      How is this even remotely surprising? Being "mentally challenged" doesn't mean you have to look odd. We're looking at the tail end of the bell curve here, not some alien species.

      I'm not sure if this is even surprising. People tend to make fun of people who are different from themselves, or just make fun of the differences that are apparent.

      Since this is (the "mentally challenged", "morons", "retarded", or whatever happens to be the next euphemism, insult, or what have you) is a distinct and marginalized group, and not necessarily a visible minority, it can be viewed as being rude or politically incorrect to make fun of these differences. Certainly having the marginal group as the prop for the punch line has some social implications. There is certain thoughtfulness that should be taken with humour (both on the giving and the receiving sides). I posit that if people are able to laugh at themselves (including there race, intelligence, sexuality or what have you), then they are on the right track to having a "healthy" attitude towards more politically dubious forms of humour. Politicians certainly all sound alike to me, even though they are merely on the tail end of the bell curve.

    9. Re:Eh. by unlametheweak · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Watched? You WATCHED One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? What good does that do, if you don't turn the pages? Isn't anyone literate anymore? Does no one READ anything that Hollywood doesn't produce? Phhhhtt.

      FYI, I've watched the movie and I've read the book. The same with Catch 22, Fahrenheit 451, Slaughter House 5, and many, many others. Unfortunately the movie producer Michael Douglas was not featured in the book, so it wouldn't have been relevant to mention the book in my post.

      And yes, I may have read books that Hollywood hasn't produced. I don't know, because I generally don't check to see if Hollywood made a movie of it before reading.

    10. Re:Eh. by Cowmonaut · · Score: 1

      +1 Flame Retardant Rebuttal It is nice to see somebody who wanted to just start a fight get completely shutdown. More so when the rebuttal is concise and in a calm manner. If more . . . disagreements were handled in such a manner the world would be a better place. Keep doing your part! Back on topic, I can't really defend Michael Douglas in any way but it seems to be he would of been expecting them to act a little more crazy. Sure, they were real mental patients, but aside from the stereotypical views of mental patients only ones with "good behavior" would of been allowed to act in the movie. No self respecting doctor would allow someone with a strong capacity and will for violence to do the same. But then since when to producers actually do anything but help provide capital these days?

    11. Re:Eh. by SandFrog · · Score: 1

      "Act like a dumb shit and they will treat you as an equal"
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    12. Re:Eh. by Danse · · Score: 1

      How is this even remotely surprising? Being "mentally challenged" doesn't mean you have to look odd. We're looking at the tail end of the bell curve here, not some alien species.

      I'm guessing that he meant he couldn't tell from what they said or how they acted when they got up to the point where he was interacting with them, not just by looking at them in line. Just a guess though.

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    13. Re:Eh. by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Heh-heh. You said flame retard butt. /Butthead

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  3. Misleading Headline by Powercntrl · · Score: 5, Funny

    My first thought was "Why does Texas need a zombie to terminate the employment of ants, and how did they get a job in the first place?"

    Then I realized, this is Texas, afterall.

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    1. Re:Misleading Headline by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Perhaps they have just introduced a discriminatory law regulating ammunition use. (Damn those alivists! Equal rights to everybody - and everycorpse!)

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    2. Re:Misleading Headline by oKtosiTe · · Score: 1

      "This was no easy decision to make, but I'm afraid were going to have to let you... BRAAAAIIIINS!"

    3. Re:Misleading Headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This is why we in Denmark join words. The headline would read:
      Texas Makes Zombiefireants

      The problem is when people then forget to join them. Because we are used to joined words, it makes it extra hard to not read the ambiguous meaning.

    4. Re:Misleading Headline by teh+kurisu · · Score: 4, Funny

      I take it you don't have 'experts exchange' in Denmark?

    5. Re:Misleading Headline by W33B · · Score: 2, Funny

      or 'pen island'

    6. Re:Misleading Headline by MaerD · · Score: 1

      Heya, Tom' itâ(TM)s Bob from the office down the hall
      Good to see you, buddy; howâ(TM)ve you been?
      Thing have been OK for me except that Iâ(TM)m a zombie now...


      Now I'm going to have :"All we want to do is eat your brains" in my head all day, thanks.

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  4. What stupidity. by MrMista_B · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Introducing foreign species, even to battle other foreign species /NEVER WORKS/.

    Way to fuck over the native ants, Texas. Not to mention any other unpredictable side-effects, which, when talking about introduced species, are /ALWAYS BAD/.

    1. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Way to fuck over the native ants, Texas. Not to mention any other unpredictable side-effects, which, when talking about introduced species, are /ALWAYS BAD/.

      Too true.

      Exhibit A: American colonials

    2. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BAM!

    3. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yep, you may have heard of the cane toads we have here in Australia. They were introduced to kill off cane beetles - well, there's been more than a few side effects of that particular decision.

      Of course, you've just introduced a bug that drills itself into animals' brains and eats them, without killing the animal itself till some time later. How could that possibly go wrong?

    4. Re:What stupidity. by GaryOlson · · Score: 0, Troll

      ...accidentally introduced into the United States due to a South American cargo ship coming to an Alabama port in 1918, but now infests the majority of the Southern and Southwestern United States.

      Then we can stop introducing more foreign species from South America by stopping all shipping of bananas, cocoa, and coffee. Or better yet, stop shipping of any product which crosses any large natural border such as oceans.

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    5. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Your quote:

      Introducing foreign species, even to battle other foreign species /NEVER WORKS/.

      I'm not sure about never but there are often unforeseen consequences. Even Looney Toons had a classic cartoon on this.

      In some cases, biological pest control can have unforeseen negative results that could outweigh all benefits. For example, when the mongoose was introduced to Hawaii in order to control the rat population, it preyed on the endemic birds of Hawaii, especially their eggs, more often than it ate the rats.

      Cane toads (Bufo marinus) were introduced to Australia in the 1930s in a failed attempt to control the cane beetle, a pest of sugar cane crops. 102 toads were obtained from Hawaii and bred in captivity to increase their numbers until they were released into the sugar cane fields of the tropic north in 1935. It was later discovered that the toads can't jump very high so they did not eat the cane beetles which stayed up on the upper stalks of the cane plants. The toads soon became very numerous and out-competed native species and became very harmful to the Australian environment, including being very toxic to would-be predators such as native snakes.

      - Ref:

    6. Re:What stupidity. by Jimmy_B · · Score: 1, Funny

      Not animals. Insects. The distinction does matter.

    7. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      The article talks specifically about deliberately introducing a species into the wild to become part of the ecosystem. Your points of inter-continental travel are unfortunately relevant to the un-deliberate introduction of foreign species into the wild.

    8. Re:What stupidity. by iamhigh · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Perhaps you're the stupid one. Lets review the first sentence in TFS...

      What do you do when a foreign species has been introduced to your land from another continent?

      They aren't native and unfortunately in Texas there aren't any natural predators to the fire ant (such as the ant eater).

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    9. Re:What stupidity. by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Last time I checked, insects weren't plants.

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    10. Re:What stupidity. by DesertJazz · · Score: 1

      While I'm also sure that this will end in disaster, I must confess if there is anything that can be done about the ants down here I would be incredibly grateful. The electrical equipment doesn't surprise me one bit, they go for anything, and I've regularly seen these wonderful little creatures around outlets and such.

    11. Re:What stupidity. by frieko · · Score: 5, Interesting
      What? As opposed to safe pest control methods like atrazine and DDT? When done by idiots (cane beetle) biological control can be disastrous. But when done carefully it's safe and effective. From Wikipedia:

      An example of an invasive species is the alligator weed. [...] The alligator weed flea beetle and two other biological controls were released in Florida. Because of their success, Florida banned the use of herbicides to control alligator weed three years after the controls were introduced.

    12. Re:What stupidity. by maxume · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, (the current popular variety of) bananas and arabica are both probably doomed anyway. They were also both introduced to South America.

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    13. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 5, Informative

      You said:

      Not animals. Insects. The distinction does matter.

      Once again I will quote Wikipedia:

      Kingdom: Animalia
      Phylum: Arthropoda
      Subphylum: Mandibulata
      Class: Insecta

      and:

      Insects are the most diverse group of animals on the planet.

    14. Re:What stupidity. by canajin56 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The flies, which are USDA -approved, do not attack native ants or species and have been introduced in other Gulf Coast states, Plowes said.

      If only Slashdot provided some way to get more details, so you could read more about the plan instead of just assuming they did no kind of study and are totally winging it with no thought or planning whatsoever.

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    15. Re:What stupidity. by OrangeTide · · Score: 4, Informative

      People are animals too, as are insects and worms and fish and dogs and frogs.

      Being a member of Animalia usually means you're an animal, but the common term animal is not universally applied to Parazoa/Porifera(sponges) even though sponges are technically part of the "Animal kingdom".

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    16. Re:What stupidity. by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah. Some of them are called Bob.

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    17. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Australia. Prickly pear vs cactoblastis beetle. Total success.

    18. Re:What stupidity. by T+Murphy · · Score: 1

      The flies, which are USDA -approved, do not attack native ants or species and have been introduced in other Gulf Coast states, Plowes said.

      Not that you can put 100% confidence in the statement, but it seems they've done testing and found these flies ignore native species, which would mean it may, in fact, work. I doubt the scientists involved in this project are oblivious of previous failed attempts at messing with food chains.

    19. Re:What stupidity. by Darth+Cider · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why were you modded +5 insightful? You're just wrong. I have to plant a wasp larva on you for trying to get away with this.

      Go here and read about 20 years of successful biological control of pest insect species

    20. Re:What stupidity. by moteyalpha · · Score: 0

      Surprisingly enough, I was wondering, last week, what could happen with ants that would be apocalyptic and this is number two apocalypse and it leads to number one.
      This is perhaps the stupidest thing that has ever been done. I can only think of one more immediate end to human life and that would be to introduce a virus that kills bees.
      This makes the introduction of species in Australia look like child's play.
      I can only hope that they are as incompetent as they are insane, and it fails to work.

    21. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      There is the problem of these ants adapting to the newly introduced species, and even worse, perhaps developing genetic defenses against them over generations. From the article:

      Plowes said fire ants are "very aware" of these tiny flies, and it only takes a few to cause the ants to modify their behavior.

      And there is of course, the problem of migration and in controlling the newly found species if it gets out of control. From the article:

      Researchers began introducing phorid species in Texas in 1999. The first species has traveled all the way from Central and South Texas to the Oklahoma border.

      And its not even known for sure if this strategy will work. Again from the article:

      Determining whether the phorid flies will work in Texas will take time, perhaps as long as a decade.

      It's all a vast experiment that could possibly go wrong. The Law of Unintended Consequences could very well be applied here.

    22. Re:What stupidity. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      C'mon, man, try to understand where they were coming from. It was either "introduce foreign zombie enslaver flies" or "cross the streams"; a total no-win decision...

    23. Re:What stupidity. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      I, for one, fear the eventual introduction of the Taiwanese semiconductor beetle. Not only do its feeding tunnels encourage premature ion migration, it carries the fungus that causes bit rot.

    24. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People are animals too, as are insects and worms and fish and dogs and frogs.

      Being a member of Animalia usually means you're an animal, but the common term animal is not universally applied to Parazoa/Porifera(sponges) even though sponges are technically part of the "Animal kingdom".

      I think in general though, it would be easier to control mammals (like us humans) and amphibians rather than insects which tend to bread much more vociferously.

      I think that since this is a science topic and a "nerd" Web site that the use of the term "animal" should be used in its more scientific (rather than colloquial) meaning.

    25. Re:What stupidity. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      Apparently the ants are actively attracted to electrical equipment, people seem to think that they sense the magnetic fields(which is pretty cool; but not unheard of, there are a bunch of animals that are known to do so).

      Unfortunately, I learned this fascinating fact after my visit to Texas. I was particularly saddened to discover that my girlfriend had been previously aware of it; but had decided to head off my enthusiasm for dubiously sensible electricity experiments by not telling me at the time. :(

    26. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ok well, sometimes it's an improvement.

    27. Re:What stupidity. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure, there might be unforeseen consequences if such a mechanism were provided...

    28. Re:What stupidity. by GaryOlson · · Score: 1

      With the advent of inter-continental shipping comes the risk of introducing new species to foreign lands. The use of pesticides has been shown to have very negative long term effects; so the only method left to address the importation of foreign insects is using biological agents. Should we instead try to create a man-made biological vector to remove the fire-ants? How much less risky is that proposal?

      No risk-free solution exists to stop future infestations except cessation of all inter-continental shipping. The OP raises the possibility of a risk from using this solution. What other alternatives does he suggest?

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    29. Re:What stupidity. by nametaken · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think he was saying that there must also be ants that are native to Texas and that these flies will damage their populations, in addition to the foreign fire ant populations.

    30. Re:What stupidity. by athlon02 · · Score: 1

      I grew up in Texas... I dunno about other states, but this isn't the first time some goofballs in the state thought messing with the ecosystem by introducing outside life was a good idea. They put "elephant ear" plants in the water in San Marcos and the things took over.

      Maybe Bill Engvall is right and we do need signs on these people... and a place to where we can export them :-)

    31. Re:What stupidity. by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

      I think in general though, it would be easier to control mammals (like us humans) and amphibians rather than insects which tend to bread much more vociferously.

      I don't know. Human population is pretty hard to control.

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    32. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The lizard population will enjoy eating these flies, assuming their heads don't fall off in process.

    33. Re:What stupidity. by corbettw · · Score: 1

      And several have been elected to Congress.

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    34. Re:What stupidity. by Fjandr · · Score: 1

      Well, that's not really true. Introduction of foreign predators to combat foreign invaders can work quite well. It can work so well that the foreign predators kill off the foreign invaders and then start munching on domestic prey.

      I'm not saying the end result is better, just that the stated goal can be reached. Totally agree that the unintended consequences can be worse than not doing anything at all. Though, they're not always all bad, as is the case when the introduction of another foreign species fails completely. Then there are no side effects, in addition to no primary effects (aside from cost).

    35. Re:What stupidity. by Kingrames · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, it's cool. I saw this movie. We win in the end.

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    36. Re:What stupidity. by Nutria · · Score: 1

      insects which tend to bread much more vociferously.

      Insects don't make staple food from baking baking a dough of flour and water. And they don't do it loudly, either...

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    37. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Speaking of congress, do these foreign fly workers have the appropriate visa? With such high unemployment I would hate to see more American ant-killing flies lose their jobs!

    38. Re:What stupidity. by erroneus · · Score: 3, Funny

      Both of my older sons can recite the list of all the Pokemon... nothing could be more diverse than that.

    39. Re:What stupidity. by Max+Littlemore · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not always bad. Cactoblastis caterpillar larvae introduction was pretty effective against prickly pear.

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    40. Re:What stupidity. by spun · · Score: 4, Funny

      Listen Jimmy, if a zombie fire ant ever got the chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about! Zombie fire ants crawl in through your ear and feed on your brains while you're asleep, WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL THEM ZOMBIES?

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    41. Re:What stupidity. by Joebert · · Score: 1

      Not even 672 Playboy centerfolds ?

      Last I checked bunnies were animals.

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    42. Re:What stupidity. by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      No risk-free solution exists to stop future infestations except cessation of all inter-continental shipping. The OP raises the possibility of a risk from using this solution. What other alternatives does he suggest?

      I don't know! I will however leave you with some thoughts on the matter.

      Well I'm no expert, but I do remember reading that DDT is highly over-rated as a harmful agricultural pest control (especially for use in Africa where there are problems with malaria). In general (it would be helpful if) more natural approaches to agriculture would be pursued. There is also the genetic engineering approach (for the agricultural problem of red ants) and the material engineering approach for the electrical infrastructure problem.

      I won't say a lot here because my knowledge here is vague and scattered. The above suggestions are some ideas, but not necessarily solutions in and of themselves. The main ideas behind my arguments is that extreme caution should be used (with radical approaches like this), especially with something that has a history of going wrong. Even if the experts think they have the knowledge and experience to understand and deal with the situation, there may always be something that they never considered that may go wrong in the future.

      It should also be noted that there is no natural problem here. Nature behaves the way it always has for millennia. Humans merely started creating these problems for themselves through the explosive growth of technological developments over the last few centuries. The ecology of Texas has been around a lot longer than the colonists started exploiting its resources. I think we should at least try to work with nature a bit more instead of working against it. It's just an idea, and not an evangelical dogma that I am presenting. New Orleans is sinking because of the diversion of the Mississippi river (one of the reasons that I heard about on PBS's Nova many years ago). Maybe we an start working with nature a bit more by, for example, not building cities and towns in flood plains. Maybe introducing zombie species is the best idea in case of the fire ants, but I would suggest trying to pursue and research less potentially dangerous solutions. Texas seems to have been managing itself fairly well over the last couple of decades. I'm not sure what the rush is to start using this radically new approach.

    43. Re:What stupidity. by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      The USDA exists to serve the farm interests, and only farm interests.

      It really doesn't matter what the results of the study were, there was only one possible "scientific" outcome if the large farm interests wanted this.

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    44. Re:What stupidity. by Nazlfrag · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well, are there any native predators for these flies then? Or will it merely set off another even more vicious plague, one which attacks the native species instead of its intended target like most of these ill conceived schemes. If introducing one foreign pest is bad, introducing an entire food chain seems far worse to me.

    45. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should be on Digg with the rest of the American hating people. You miss your true calling.

    46. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I live near the University of Texas college and personally know many people involved in the research of these fly's. Many teams involved have all told me the same story; there is a toxin found exclusively inside the fire ant thorax that the fly's sense and are drawn to. They did not go into more detail that I could retain as I am not a biochemist, I simply felt I could contribute to the Slashdot community with personal knowledge that the article lacked.

    47. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, now the Indians will take out the colonials. And they get to stay in their own country, this time.

    48. Re:What stupidity. by moon3 · · Score: 1

      Yep, introducing "zombifying parasites" sure do not sound like good idea.

    49. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My normal solution to this problem would be "fire and lots of it" but since they're fire ants I'm out of ideas.

    50. Re:What stupidity. by Cazakatari · · Score: 0

      Wrong. The control of the cottony cushion scale was a complete success, with the introduction of a beetle and a fly. They were virtually gone within a few years, and no one has found any bad side effects to date.

      Not to say that we should start throwing species all over the place, but it can work incredibly well in certain cases.

    51. Re:What stupidity. by PiSkyHi · · Score: 1

      My country has a surprising lack of elephant ears, maybe we can trade.

      We haven't worked out how yet how to use the ears, or if our lack of elephants is related, but these are minor details.

    52. Re:What stupidity. by Lueseiseki · · Score: 1

      It mentioned in the article that the flies didn't harm the native species of ants. It's also a fact that most parasitic animals have a specific target animal to draw energy from, it would not even be likely in the first place that these flies would damage the local ecosystem.

    53. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      While I agree completely with you, "Animal" is defined as a taxonomical term in biology, but also as a collective term culturally.

      Hence, sometimes people distinguish between animals and fish. And other times between animals and birds. And other times between animals and lizards. And so on.

      Usually, when most people use the term "animals", they mean "mammals". Unless they don't. It's supposed to be contextually intuitive what they actually mean, apparently.

      The taxonomic meaning, while unambiguous, is equally arbitrary. Not that I'm criticizing; I use the term the same way that you do. I'm just explaining.

    54. Re:What stupidity. by skirmish666 · · Score: 1

      Usually, when most people use the term "animals", they mean "mammals". Unless they don't.

      I'm writing that one down.

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    55. Re:What stupidity. by marafa · · Score: 0

      your quote is inaccurate. the fact that it was accurate 2 seconds ago is insubstantial.

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    56. Re:What stupidity. by thelastquestion · · Score: 1

      atrazine isn't pest control, it's an herbicide

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    57. Re:What stupidity. by Sandcastle · · Score: 1

      I get how some of these cases would have seemed like a good idea at the time, but the cane toad case always amazes me. An animal that is toxic to touch, let alone eat... How could they have ever thought it would end well?

      Crazy dumb idea, even before the punchline that they couldn't jump high enough to eat the damn things we brought them here to control!

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    58. Re:What stupidity. by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

      Not to mention any other unpredictable side-effects, which, when talking about introduced species, are /ALWAYS BAD/.

      Seriously. Now when I go to Texas I get to worry about flys launching eggs into my eyes and ears. As if the fire ants aren't enough.

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    59. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He probably thinks it would be similar to what happened in Hawaii. They brought in mongoose to control the rats and instead threatend many unique indigenous birds. Including the ground nesting state bird the Nene.

    60. Re:What stupidity. by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Introducing foreign species, even to battle other foreign species /NEVER WORKS/.

      Sure, there's an unwritten law that says "if a new kind of engineering fails on the first few attempts, it will /ALWAYS FAIL/". It's unwritten because the guys who came up with it also failed to engineer a way to write words down.

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    61. Re:What stupidity. by Cassius+Corodes · · Score: 1

      Try water - fire creatures have a weakness to it.

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    62. Re:What stupidity. by Qubit · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Hence, sometimes people distinguish between animals and fish

      Animals and fish? I don't think I've ever heard that split before. People often say things like "well at least we're not animals," or "humans can contemplate their existence, unlike animals," however I feel like that just stems from not having a precise term defining the set of all animals, minus humans.

      Of course, even if we did have such a term, would it include homo sapiens sapiens and neanderthals? At what point would we be considered separate from the rest of the animal kingdom?

      Getting back to the animals, we have several terms that can mean different things. For example a vegetarian might say "I don't eat meat," but in common parlance of lots of cookbooks (especially cookbooks over a decade or two old) you have meat, poultry, fish, game, and pork.

      So-called pescetarians might eat plants + seafood, or just plants + fish. Wikipedia indicates that the word is a portmanteau of the Italian word pesce ("fish") + vegetarian; if a person eats things beyond just fish (e.g. crustaceans), should we use a different word?

      "Omnivore" isn't much better, as I certainly don't eat everything. I can't even eat tomato plants and rhubarb leaves -- things that look remotely edible. But people generally understand each other, even if our words aren't as precisely specified as much people would like.

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    63. Re:What stupidity. by WGFCrafty · · Score: 2, Informative

      It would probably be different if the ants were native.

      They actually got here from South America through a port in Mobile, Alabama.
      And now they're more than just a Mobile, Alabama problem.

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/FireantmapUSA.jpg

      Furthur reading on the RIFA (Red imported fire ant)
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_imported_fire_ant

    64. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >> They aren't native and unfortunately in Texas there aren't any natural predators to the fire ant (such as the ant eater).

      No there isn't, but they could just hire some of the illegals (also foreign, unwelcome, and has invaded Texas) to stomp them out, one ant at a time.

    65. Re:What stupidity. by WGFCrafty · · Score: 4, Informative

      Exhibit B: Crown of Thorns Starfish

      At one point these poor asteroidea were cut into pieces as a form of population control. People realized that the population was doubling. Turns out, they can regrow into separate functioning organisms.

      Kinda like fantasia and mickey mouse and the brooms, y'know.

    66. Re:What stupidity. by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Apparently a big component of the attraction is that electric-fried fire ants smell really good to other fire ants

    67. Re:What stupidity. by amilo100 · · Score: 1

      The use of pesticides has been shown to have very negative long term effects;

      Most modern pesticides break up in a couple of weeks. Fertilizer has arguably a much higher ecological impact than pesticides.

    68. Re:What stupidity. by vtcodger · · Score: 4, Informative

      ***Way to fuck over the native ants, Texas. Not to mention any other unpredictable side-effects, which, when talking about introduced species, are /ALWAYS BAD/.*** A bit too absolute perhaps. Phorid flies are picky eaters. Part of the problem is that phorids that attack the native fire ants -- which are not considered to be much of a problem (in the US) -- don't find the non-native fire ants -- which are a problem here -- appealing. The proposal it to release phorids that are the natural enemies of the non-native fire ants and do not attack the indigenous species. I suspect that if you had ever encountered Solenopsis wagneri, your opinions on the introductions of natural controls might be a bit less rigid. see http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~gilbert/research/fireants/faqans.html#which

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    69. Re:What stupidity. by beowulfcluster · · Score: 1

      Is (was?) your girlfriend a cybernetic creation tired of her manufactured so called life?

    70. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This phorid fly is specific to this fire ant. It cannot attack other ants (not even the local north american fire ants). There are other phorid flies that attack other ants.

    71. Re:What stupidity. by process · · Score: 1

      It's easy as pie:

      Skinner: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.
      Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?
      Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.
      Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?
      Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.
      Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!
      Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

      http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F22

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    72. Re:What stupidity. by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      We do have word that refers to all animals except humans: beasts.

      However just like when they say animals, people usually use it to just refer to 4-legged animals, I've never heard anyone refer to a pigeon or a goldfish as a beast, even though they could.

    73. Re:What stupidity. by couchslug · · Score: 1

      "Of course, you've just introduced a bug that drills itself into animals' brains and eats them, without killing the animal itself till some time later. How could that possibly go wrong?"

      I dunno, my head hurts and I can't thimk str8t3...

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    74. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't Al-Quaeda successfull in bringing foreign people to Irak to fight the Americans?

    75. Re:What stupidity. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      That would have been ok if they had introduced more of the American Colonial's natural predator, the English Redcoat.

      Then you introduce the Prussian (or French) Cavalryman to keep the numbers of Recoats manageable.

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    76. Re:What stupidity. by maxume · · Score: 1

      You'll just love bot flies.

      I'll leave you the joy of looking it up for yourself.

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    77. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >They aren't native and unfortunately in Texas there aren't any natural predators to the fire ant (such as the ant eater).

      i bet another brilliant idea is forming at this very moment....

    78. Re:What stupidity. by maxume · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Many invasive plants are close enough to pests, even if just by eventual ubiquity.

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    79. Re:What stupidity. by mangu · · Score: 1

      That would have been ok if they had introduced more of the American Colonial's natural predator, the English Redcoat.

      Then you introduce the Prussian (or French) Cavalryman to keep the numbers of Recoats manageable.

      Until they develop Industrialization and the cities start creating Riflemen.

    80. Re:What stupidity. by Erikderzweite · · Score: 1

      And after that you need Russians when your Prussian or French Cavalrymen get out of control.

      And then the winter comes and only Russians survive.

    81. Re:What stupidity. by yabos · · Score: 1

      Also they brought in cats to try and kill off the rodents brought on various ships to Australia. Now they still have rodents and in addition, ferrel cats roaming around causing havoc.

    82. Re:What stupidity. by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      Kinda like fantasia and mickey mouse and the brooms, y'know.

      Or Tarrasques.

      (geek card check-mark whoring since day 1+e^(i pi))

    83. Re:What stupidity. by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      Obviously they're minerals.

      I once got stung by a chunk of beryllium. That shit hurts!

    84. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aren't those already basically mindless?

    85. Re:What stupidity. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I would be particularly concerned about this. Especially because the native ants are presumably less evolved to defend against the fly.

      Of course the native species could be doomed by being out-competed by fire ants anyway.

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    86. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's the beautiful part - come winter, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

    87. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way to fuck over native ants is to come ashore off a boat from Hell and start moving north, destroying every colony of native ants in your path. Where there are fire ants, there are no native ant species left.

      Fire ants will kill any animal they can catch on the ground, not because the animal is a threat, but just because that's just the way they roll.

      If you want to reclaim any habitat for native species, you have to get rid of the fire ants first.

    88. Re:What stupidity. by 3vi1 · · Score: 1

      The percentage of "native" ants left in Texas is practically nil. The fire ants killed them all - they do that, you know.

    89. Re:What stupidity. by doulos447 · · Score: 1

      Fire ants are one reason that the horned lizard, once plentiful in Texas, are now scarce.

      DH

    90. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were you ever to disturb a fire ant nest by accident and end up with a few hundred or thousand stings for your troubles. . . your concern for the ants in general would likely diminish a bit. . . .

      They have no natural predators here. They go after anything that is unlucky enough to cross their path. A typical yard will have anywhere from one to five nests somewhere on it. Even actively destroying the nests and using poison to deal with the inhabitants does nothing. Another nest takes it's place within days. Sometimes overnight.

      So it's either the flies, or the flamethrower. Typically the flies would generate fewer 911 calls. :D

    91. Re:What stupidity. by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

      Kinda like fantasia and mickey mouse and the brooms, y'know.

      Or like Scratchy did to Itchy in Scratchtasia.

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    92. Re:What stupidity. by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      Way to fuck over the native ants, Texas. Not to mention any other unpredictable side-effects, which, when talking about introduced species, are /ALWAYS BAD/.

      You do realize fire ants come from South America and are not native to the US? They were introduced to the US in 1918, which is why they have no natural predators here and we have to import them.

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    93. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is WAY old news. http://www.ars.usda.gov/IS/pr/2000/001115.htm

      As far as this 'Never Working' goes, that's pretty ignorant of the facts. For example, the release of sterilized male fruit flies has been used for years as an effective means of keeping invasive fruit flies from spreading.

    94. Re:What stupidity. by jwocky · · Score: 1

      Principal Skinner: It's already wiped out the dodo, the cuckoo and the nene. And it has nasty plans for the booby, the titmouse, the woodcock and the titpecker.

    95. Re:What stupidity. by holmstar · · Score: 1

      And if you are the first to develop tanks, then you are practically unstoppable...

      except for that random spearman...

      If I see a spearman destroy my another one of my tanks, my head is going to explode.

    96. Re:What stupidity. by frieko · · Score: 1

      A pest is anything that pisses you off.

      Venn Diagram: ( (herbicide) (insecticide ) pesticide )

    97. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Australia has worked well in the past.

    98. Re:What stupidity. by DamienNightbane · · Score: 1

      Fuck them. Maybe after the ant kingdom suffers a zombie apocalypse the little fuckers will stay out of my kitchen.

    99. Re:What stupidity. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Since it's Fire/Bug you could also try Flying.

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    100. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the University of Florida - probably IFAS.

      They have been doing experiments arount Gainesville for several years now with good results. Not only do the phorids seem to be content with their natural prey (fire ants), when fire ants detect phorids in the air above them, they run for cover, reducing their ability to forage and roam unchecked.

      There is, alas, a sufficiently large population of fire ants to keep the phorid flies occupied for some time to come. While I'm always nervous when introducing an invader species to fight an invader species, both the ants and flies come from a relatively nearby location, so there's probably not as many species who haven't already dealt with them.

    101. Re:What stupidity. by bugfreezer · · Score: 2, Informative

      As one who has studied entomology, especially Biological Control; I am aware that there were faulty methods of evaluating suitable insects for attacking imported pests. The USDA has stricter standards now for evaluating host specificity (how likely is the critter going to pick on a native vs target insect) of a biocontrol agent (= phorid flies in this case).

      True, in the case of ants, since there are so many species, foolproof bioagents can be difficult to get, but there have been successes too. I personally have worked with Cereal Leaf Beetle and the complex of wasps we used to control the critters have successfully kept them in check...and kept wheat production costs down.

    102. Re:What stupidity. by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      "The toads soon became very numerous and out-competed native species and became very harmful to the Australian environment, including being very toxic to would-be predators such as native snakes."

      Because if there's one thing Australia needs, it's more snakes...

    103. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You, too, are obviously uneducated. What kind of plebe forgets to capitalize?

      Let's replay how stupid you are:
      "Flies. apostrophe-s means possession or contraction of 'X is'. "ies" or "es" means plural."

      WOW what an idiot. Again, with focus:
      "Flies. apostrophe-s means possession"

      See how that 'a' after the period is a little 'a' and not a big 'A'? Moron.

    104. Re:What stupidity. by akpoff · · Score: 1

      They aren't native and unfortunately in Texas there aren't any natural predators to the fire ant (such as the ant eater).

      Not true. We have Spectracide. Spectracide includes petrochemicals. Texas has oil which we process into industrial chemicals to make Spectracide. We take the Spectracide out the backdoor and pour it on the ground where the worker fire ants pick it up and feed it to the queen. Colony gone.

      So Texans are natural predators to fire ants. Fire ants and liberal carpet baggers that is.

    105. Re:What stupidity. by snadrus · · Score: 0

      Birds & bats: According to most Pilots I know, there are more birds that they need to deal with over Texas than anywhere else. Here in San Antonio, Texas we have the world's largest bat cave (and many others) whose occupants eat 100 tons of flying bugs a night (experts estimate). If it's a flying insect that's not poisonous to birds or bats, Texas has it covered.

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    106. Re:What stupidity. by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "New Orleans is sinking because of the diversion of the Mississippi river (one of the reasons that I heard about on PBS's Nova many years ago). Maybe we an start working with nature a bit more by, for example, not building cities and towns in flood plains."

      I guess they should have known better back 300+ years ago when settling NOLA.

      :)

      Actually, you do have a point in some regards tho. When I came back after Katrina they had a very interesting visual in the newspaper. They showed the basic original layout of New Orleans...from the French Quarter, to basically down St. Charles and the Garden Dist. and Uptown area.

      Then, they showed an overlay that showed the areas of New Orleans today that were NOT flooded by the levee breaks for Katrina. Amazingly enough, they coincided. It appears they WERE smart enough hundreds of years ago, not to build in areas where it would flood badly. But, over the decades...swamp land was cleared and drained, and housing was built there (9th ward, New Orleans East, Lakeview...most of Metairie and Kenner). Sure enough, when bad things happen...nature tends to try to reclaim those areas.

      But, do remember, New Orleans is where it is for a reason...the mouth of the MS river. It serves as a VERY important port to the US, not to mention it and the surrounding areas are vital to a great deal of US seafood, and energy work and transport. It is older than the US by a good number of years, that should tell you something about the importance of the location.

      Then again...every area has its problems. CA with the wildfires and earthquakes. The midwest (Iowa, etc) seems to have had some nasty flooding recently too, middle of the country (TX panhandle area, OK, AR, Kansas) all are plagued with tornadoes annually. There's hardly anywhere that doesn't have a problem of some sort with Mother Nature.

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    107. Re:What stupidity. by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Colonial Americans were of a different species than American Indians?

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    108. Re:What stupidity. by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      Never mind the fact that the zombie flies only target these fire-ants -- they are very species-specific.

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    109. Re:What stupidity. by jlowe · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's nasty. I especially loved watching this video: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=940_1205955519

    110. Re:What stupidity. by omris · · Score: 1

      Although in the past, people did go a little crazy with this idea (see CANE TOADS), there are cases where it works great. Introducing a foreign species to kill off the real problem species does not have to end in tragic failure. There are ways to test how this new species will react in an environment. Especially with insect. An imported insect was very effective in getting rid of some of the Purple loosestrife problems here in RI.

      http://www.invasiveplants.net/plants/purpleloosestrife.htm

      This website talks about four different species of insect that were potential candidates. One was not used because it carries a nematode that could infect other insects here.

      It just has to be planned a little bit better than "Hey, toads eat bugs, right?" There are ways to ensure that the risk of the flies, in this case, parasitizing other species is slim to none. The species already introduced have not spread beyond the area where they have this fire ant problem.

    111. Re:What stupidity. by jadavis · · Score: 1

      Introducing foreign species, even to battle other foreign species /NEVER WORKS/.

      Sharing of animals and plants has been one of the primary forces that has allowed civilization to exist.

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    112. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, the idiots who banned DDT inadvertently caused the death of more people then any war in history.

      http://rachelwaswrong.org/

    113. Re:What stupidity. by bugfreezer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I saw that bit after the fact. Thanks!

    114. Re:What stupidity. by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      The fire ants themselves are already decimating the native species. At least this fly is SOMETHING that will kill fire ants. As it stands, the ants are unchallenged. They have nothing that kills them other than pesticides.

    115. Re:What stupidity. by _Sprocket_ · · Score: 1

      Way to fuck over the native ants, Texas.

      From the article:

      The flies, which are USDA -approved, do not attack native ants or species and have been introduced in other Gulf Coast states, Plowes said.

      [Generic RTFA joke here]

    116. Re:What stupidity. by eln · · Score: 1

      insects which tend to bread much more vociferously.

      Insects don't make staple food from baking baking a dough of flour and water. And they don't do it loudly, either...

      Tell that to the cockroaches in my walls. All I hear all night is constant chatter, and the whole house smells like freshly baked bread constantly.

    117. Re:What stupidity. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am not an animal, I am a HUMAN BEING!

    118. Re:What stupidity. by TSPhoenix · · Score: 1

      Except that the prickly pear is delicious.

    119. Re:What stupidity. by riverat1 · · Score: 1

      No, the US was successful in bringing Al Qaeda to Iraq to fight them.

    120. Re:What stupidity. by Kuruk · · Score: 1

      I see and when there are no fire ant thorax's available the flies will just die off.

      Because life just does want you want right.

    121. Re:What stupidity. by Cassander · · Score: 1

      Animals and fish? I don't think I've ever heard that split before.

      You obviously haven't known many Catholics.

      Catholics aren't allowed to eat animal meat on Fridays. According to their religious dogma, however, fish do not count as "animals", so they are okay to eat on no-meat day. (This is also why a lot of restaurants offer seafood specials on Friday.)

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  5. What could possibly go wrong? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of cane toads.

    1. Re:What could possibly go wrong? by Goaway · · Score: 1

      So tell us, what could possibly go wrong with introducing a species that has evolved to specifically prey on one specific other species, and is entirely dependent on that species?

      Back up your claims.

  6. I tell you what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is what those environmentalists should be doing. Using nature against nature in ways that can help man.

    ---Hank Hill of Arlen, TX

    1. Re:I tell you what by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is what those environmentalists are covertly doing. Using nature against man in ways that can help nature.

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  7. Obilgatory Simpsons by dsginter · · Score: 5, Funny

    Skinner: Well, I was wrong. The lizards are a godsend.

    Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

    Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

    Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?

    Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

    Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!

    Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

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    1. Re:Obilgatory Simpsons by kklein · · Score: 1

      Beat me to it! It's one of my favorite quotes.

    2. Re:Obilgatory Simpsons by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      A friend in grad school told the story of going fishing on his property. Western edge of Tennessee, if I remember correctly. He's standing in the water and notices a log moving against the current. To be safe, he takes out his .45 (yes, he was the sort of guy to take a .45 with him when fishing) and fires a few shots. And beats a hasty retreat. He calls Fish & Game, which come and catch a rather large gator. Turns out it was a survivor of a program years before to control rodents or something. Supposedly the area was too far north for gators to survive the winter.

      Someone forgot to tell the gator.

      Man, I love this story: fishing with big handguns, gators, and government screw ups. Can't decide which part is funniest.

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  8. Oh yeah..great idea except when things go wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Like this http://www.austmus.gov.au/factsheets/canetoad.htm

    Cane toads !!!!

    This little bastards will eat anything they can physically get in their mouths!

    A complete disaster.

  9. This is ridiculous by cvtan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Zombies are never the answer. Oh wait. Zombie ant overlords? That's totally different.

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    1. Re:This is ridiculous by RancidPeanutOil · · Score: 1

      Like Grandpa used to say, when the only tool you've got is zombies, every problem starts to look like... um... wait.. something about no room in hell? Or something?

      Zombies ftw!

  10. The Selfish Gene by crocodill · · Score: 3, Informative

    Richard Dawkins talks about ants doing this kind of stuff in his book: The Selfish Gene.

    It's an awesome book to read if you want to learn more about the world you're living in and also reasoning behind a lot of human behaviour.

    1. Re:The Selfish Gene by QuantumG · · Score: 1

      Posting on Slashdot aint gunna get you chicks. Explain that!

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    2. Re:The Selfish Gene by nyctopterus · · Score: 1

      ... you mean most of the people here aren't chicks? I'VE WASTED MY LIFE!

  11. Great Idea! by alienunknown · · Score: 1, Redundant
    It worked great for us with the introduction of cane toads.

    I'm sure there will be no unforeseen changes to the local ecosystems. Why, what could possibly go wrong?

    1. Re:Great Idea! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod up parent... very informative. At least the Cane Toads can be made into purses though!

      Now... what to do with phorid flies?

    2. Re:Great Idea! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Tiny purses? An excellent product for times of economic downturn...

  12. Silver bullet impact by HamburglerJones · · Score: 5, Funny

    "These are very slow acting," Plowes said. "It's more like a cumulative impact measured across a time frame of years. It's not an immediate silver bullet impact."

    Well of course there's no silver bullet impact for zombie fire ants, but if we need to get rid of some werewolf fire ants, the silver bullets might do the trick!

    1. Re:Silver bullet impact by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

      but if we need to get rid of some werewolf fire ants

      They half man, half wolf, half ant? Manwolfant?

      Or are they half wolf, half ant-man?

    2. Re:Silver bullet impact by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      Yeah if he wants a "silver bullet impact" on zombie fire ants, he should probably start by seqencing the ants' genome...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun_sequencing

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  13. Uh, memo to tthe USDA . . . by mmell · · Score: 1
    Has this EVER worked as planned? Even once? Or hasn't there always been some unforseen result?

    Just askin'.

    1. Re:Uh, memo to tthe USDA . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, biocontrol has worked a few times before.

      Obviously, the screw-up results get more press than when an introduced species does work.

      -Peter Petridish

    2. Re:Uh, memo to tthe USDA . . . by The+Moof · · Score: 1

      What? It's not like we've ever accidentally created killer bees by releasing insects into a foreign ecosystem or anything.
      Right? Right?!

      ....Uh oh

    3. Re:Uh, memo to tthe USDA . . . by nyctopterus · · Score: 1

      Yes it has worked, you just don't hear about it when it does. Dung beetles are a good example, but there are others.

  14. I can see it now... by tech_fixer · · Score: 2, Funny

    Coming this summer to a theatre near you:
    Texas Zombie Ant Chainsaw Massacre!

    How's that for a mashup?

    1. Re:I can see it now... by Shag · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I was gonna say this headline seemed to be missing a couple words. :)

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  15. Re:I for one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one don't welcome your tired unfunny cliche use.

  16. uh oh by jollyreaper · · Score: 5, Funny

    When are the Russians going to get around to linking all these zombies into a botnet? Or would that be a bugnet?

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    1. Re:uh oh by nrgy · · Score: 1

      If so we just track these Russian bot nets with a bugtracker.

    2. Re:uh oh by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

      It would never work. It's full of bugs.

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    3. Re:uh oh by steelfood · · Score: 1

      would that be a bugnet?

      No, that's just a fancy word for a network of computers running Windows.

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    4. Re:uh oh by Hillgiant · · Score: 1

      It's not a bugnet, it's a featurenet!

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  17. Re:I want some zombie making flies by Rip+Dick · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll go wild on your wife...

  18. Stock Tip... by maz2331 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Whatever company that makes RAID (bug spray, not disk stuff)...

    BUY!

    The product will be needed soon, and in great quantities.

    1. Re:Stock Tip... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      The company is called Scotts, ticker is SMG. They're a quite successful yard chemical company.

    2. Re:Stock Tip... by eln · · Score: 1

      This is Texas we're talking about, we already need RAID in massive quantities around here.

  19. Porky Pig tried this once. by Loualbano2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Porky Pig tried this once in an old Bug Bunny cartoon.

    He had a mouse problem, so he bought a cat.

    When Porky Pig went to bed, the cat invited all of his friends over and they got wasted played the piano loudly and sang drinking songs. One of the cats had a lampshade on his head and everything.

    When Porky Pig got fed up with this, he bought a dog. How he found a place in the 50's or 60's that sold dogs in the middle of the night is anyone's guess. He let the dog loose in the house and waited.

    The cats got the dog drunk and he was singing with them in about 30 seconds.

    So obviously these flies are eventually going to get drunk and sing, which is pretty cool, making this plan sweet.

    1. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      This should be modded informative. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

    2. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It's been several decades since that occurred and I haven't heard of any other anthropomorphic pigs annoyed with a bunch of drunken cats in his house, accompanied by a drunken dog. It seems like people must remember that part of our history rather well.

    3. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by santax · · Score: 1

      Are you sure that wasn't Fritz the Cat?

    4. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by Loualbano2 · · Score: 1

      I hate to reply to myself, but I found the actual cartoon on youtube:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnRaNw1Un8

      It turns out to be from 1945.

    5. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by gijoel · · Score: 1

      Maybe you're thinking of this episode. A dime to retire.

      Where Porky finds a motel that charges 10c a night. Alas Daffy the motel manager releases a mouse and charges $50 to release a cat. Then $50 for a dog and so on untill Daffy brings the mouse back to get rid of the elephant.

      Can't find the episode on youtube but saw it a few months ago and it was still hilarious.

    6. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      You'd think so, wouldn't you? But talk to the average person in the street about the plight of stuttering pigs in our society, and they'll just laugh in your face and tell you it's all fiction.

    7. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by Loualbano2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do remember that one, but it wasn't the one I originally spoke of:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KnRaNw1Un8

    8. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by rob13572468 · · Score: 1

      wasnt this in the "king of the hill" episode where dale puts the fire ants on hank's lawn?

    9. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How he found a place in the 50's or 60's that sold dogs in the middle of the night is anyone's guess.

      I know. Now anyone can go buy a dog at any time of the night they want.

    10. Re:Porky Pig tried this once. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use this as an example daily! It had a big impact on me as a little kid.

  20. The CSIRO would disagree with you by adamkennedy · · Score: 5, Informative

    After a few horrendous early bad attempts (Cane Toads for example) Australia's CSIRO (the government's research arm) has gotten very very good at importing biological controls to deal with other invasive species. They now have methodologies in place that let them do so on a regular basis.

    Examples include the moth that was used to eradicate Prickly Pear, the introducing of African dung beetles to curb an explosion in flies due to agriculture, and the rabbit haemorrhagic disease virus have all been very successful.

    And they've introduced no less than 5 different species (3 weevils, 2 flies and a moth) to successfully control Onopordum Thistles (although the program is ongoing).

    I think the rule of thumb here is that you don't solve your invasive species problems by just wandering over to their source country, picking up the first highly visible superpredator that you find, and bringing it back. (Cane Toads, Mongooses, Wolves, etc)

    1. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by gijoel · · Score: 1

      Damn I wish I had mod points

    2. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I'm sure the aborigines are delighted at the introduction of the British prisoners, British troops, and British taxes to control the dogs, rabbits, brown rats, and VD that the first Colonists brought with them. And frankly, given the devastation brought by the cane toads and the rabbits, I shudder to think what personal sexual favors the next wave of foreign organisms would have to provide to make up for it.

    3. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The rabbit calicivirus was NOT introduced - it escaped the tests being done on Wardang Island.

      What could possibly go wrong?

      captcha: hesitant

    4. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Nutria · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes, I'm sure the aborigines are delighted at the introduction of the British prisoners ... blah blah blah ...

      In the 40,000 years that Asians and Europeans advanced from paleolithic thru Iron and "culture" and technology (for example, sailing around the world), the aborigines were basically stagnant, never going beyond the stone age, developing agriculture, the wheel, etc. IOW, they were ripe for conquest by a dynamic, expanding culture.

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    5. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      IOW, they were ripe for conquest by a dynamic, expanding culture.

      And god knows that you've got a right to pick any ripe fruit, whether it's yours or not...

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    6. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by whiledo · · Score: 1

      And god knows that you've got a right to pick any ripe fruit, whether it's yours or not...

      Worked for the aborigines.

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    7. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Belial6 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now, if we could just get people around here to understand that cats are one of these highly visible superpredators that eradicate local wildlife. (And shit in your yard.)

    8. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the rabbit haemorrhagic disease virus [wikipedia.org]

      Rabbit Plague?
      For real?

      do we really need to stop the cutest apocalyptic precursor ever?

    9. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by amilo100 · · Score: 1

      introducing of African dung beetles to curb an explosion in flies due to agriculture,

      There are several types of dung beetles that are endangered in South Africa :(

    10. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      After a few horrendous early bad attempts (Cane Toads for example) Australia's CSIRO (the government's research arm) has gotten very very good at importing biological controls to deal with other invasive species. They now have methodologies in place that let them do so on a regular basis.

      Examples include the moth that was used to eradicate Prickly Pear,

      About the artice You've linked to: what is worth mentioning here, is that while you can read between the lines that in Australia this "environmental engineering" was in fact successful, for unknown reasons it failed in Kruger National Park, South Africa...
      WM

    11. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by Nutria · · Score: 3, Funny

      (Fundamentally altering the environment and driving megafauna to extinction) worked for the aborigines.

      Shame on you for not realizing that only White European Americans are allowed to be criticized. Brown People are allowed to do any fscking thing they want, because they are "closer to nature". And oppressed by the White Man, even 20,000 years ago.

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    12. Re:The CSIRO would disagree with you by GooberToo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      the first highly visible superpredator that you find, and bringing it back. (Cane Toads, Mongooses, Wolves, etc) ...and house cat...

      Australia has a bad feline problem too. They were imported to deal with ever increasing rodent populations as a result of the growing agro and ranching economy. Thankfully the Aborigines were quick to add them to their diet.

      It seems house cats have very poor endurance and can be stalked rather successfully. At the end of the hunt the Aborigines literally walk right up to it and smash its head. The cat is simply too tired to run any further.

  21. "The flies do not attack native ants..." by e9th · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I got to New Mexico, I couldn't even look at huevos rancheros. Within a year, they had become a breakfast favorite.

    The phorids will have whole generations to refine their taste.

    1. Re:"The flies do not attack native ants..." by breckinshire · · Score: 1

      When I got to New Mexico, I couldn't even look at huevos rancheros. Within a year, they had become a breakfast favorite.

      So if I recall my high school Spanish, moving to New Mexico made you gay?

    2. Re:"The flies do not attack native ants..." by clong83 · · Score: 1

      Wish I had funny mod points... Best laugh I've had all morning.

    3. Re:"The flies do not attack native ants..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt you learned slang words for testicles in high school Spanish class, so I'm guessing it was either from a "friendly" gym coach or you hung around with your tio malvado Ernesto a little too much.

  22. And they dealt with the cane toads by importing .. by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 3, Informative

    Reminds me of cane toads.

    I understand that there was an additional import used to deal with Cane Toads that isn't in the wiki article. As I heard it:

    There was a problem with cattle dung. The native dung beetles didn't dispose of it. So each cow flop would lie around for years, killing off a circle of grass several feet across. Cows make a LOT of flops, so this was a serious problem

    So they imported dung beetles that WOULD break up and bury cow flops. But the Cane Toad would eat them, so they didn't take hold.

    Finally they found a BIG dung beetle that would use cow flops. The cane toads would eat this one, too. But it was a big hardy bug. So it would dig its way out of the toad. Problem (and toad) solved. B-)

    Unfortunately there apparently aren't enough cow flops to produce a big enough population of these booby-trap-beetles to wipe out the cane toads. So the toads are still a problem.

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  23. No need by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In Texas, fire ants are bountiful. There will be no need to attack other ants...

    Of course that's now, it will be interesting to see what happens when the fire ant population starts dwindling. But basically these will probably just keep it in more of a natural check.

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    1. Re:No need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      In New Mexico, breakfast was bountiful...

      Seriously, I am more concerned that the phorids may mutate into something with broader appetites. I admit I do not understand the mechanism that causes them to prey only on fire ants. It may be so ingrained in them that there is no chance that they'll ever attack anything else.

    2. Re:No need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do people always think a 'probably' is enough to risk something this big?

    3. Re:No need by Y.A.A.P. · · Score: 1

      Yes, keeping the fire ants in "more of a natural check" is the most that could be accomplished by the insects that are being introduced this time.

      According to TFA, this is the 4th phorid species introduced to Texas. The 1st was released in 1999.

      The article notes there are 23 known phorid species. Even those, with native pathogens, only keep South American fire ant populations "controlled".

      When you've seen pictures of the 5 to 6 foot tall fire ant nests that can occasionally spring up in South America (where these have managed to cross paths with expanding cattle farms, there are cases of cows being killed by attacks from the ants when the cow in question brushes up against the nest), you'll probably be inclined to indulge the introduction of another "control" every now and then...

      The whatcouldpossiblygowrong tag is obviously from someone who has neither RTFA nor knows how bad fire ant populations can get.

    4. Re:No need by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      The whatcouldpossiblygowrong tag is obviously from someone who has neither RTFA nor knows how bad fire ant populations can get.

      That was me, and I did read the article. Perhaps a look at some of my comments will explain my rationale. I'll keep an open mind about the situation, but failure to ask questions like this is purposefully being ignorant. We should always ask ourselves about possible consequences that we can anticipate and consider the fact that we may not have the knowledge or foresight to anticipate every possible scenario or outcome. I think its a good question to ask, and does not necessarily imply prejudice about the topic.

  24. Aust fire ant problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    We have had a fire ant problem here in Queensland, Australia for a few years now. It has been a big problem and quite a talking point for the Qld government (www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fireants/). But there has never been a suggestion to introduce a natural predator. I'm curious as to why they haven't. Possibly because the last time they tried using a natural predator; the cane toad (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cane_toad)it backfired badly and we are now over run by the little buggers.

    1. Re:Aust fire ant problem by jack2000 · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just do what any sensible man would? Track those fuckers and annihilate em, one hive at a time? Use poison/chemicals fuck em all? Why do you allow yourselves to be trampled by these things?

    2. Re:Aust fire ant problem by Ihlosi · · Score: 1

      Why don't you just do what any sensible man would?

      Yes. Nuke them from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

  25. Ex-wife by iliketrash · · Score: 4, Funny
    These ... flies dive bomb ants and lay an egg inside the ant. The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie that wanders around for two weeks before the head falls off and the ant dies.

    Can I get something like this for my ex-wife?

    1. Re:Ex-wife by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Sure: Oprah.

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    2. Re:Ex-wife by thexile · · Score: 1

      No she will do a body-slam instead.

  26. there was an old lady who by societyofrobots · · Score: 1

    And what if that fly starts killing off other native species important to the ecosystem? Import more species!

    There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
    I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
    Perhaps she'll die.

    There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
    That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
    She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
    But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
    Perhaps she'll die.

    There was an old lady who swallowed a bird;
    How absurd, to swallow a bird!
    She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
    That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
    She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
    But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
    Perhaps she'll die

    There was an old lady who swallowed a cat.
    Imagine that, she swallowed a cat.
    She swallowed the cat to catch the bird ...
    She swallowed the bird to catch the spider
    That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
    She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
    But I dunno why she swallowed that fly
    Perhaps she'll die

    and you know that goes . . .

    1. Re:there was an old lady who by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's exactly what I thought of when I read the summary. Bravo.

  27. So many... by afabbro · · Score: 1
    Let's summarize:
    • Scientists are introducing a brain-consuming maggot into Texas that turns fire ants into zombies.
    • After their brains are consumed, the fire ants wander aimlessly for two weeks, then die.
    • Flies emerge from the dead ants, hungry for more ants.

    There are just so many bad science fiction plotlines here...and in all of them, we end up mining underground sugar caves for Nazgulesque maggots astride their fearsome zombie fire ants. In a few, we end up being tortured by the fire ants' Neo, who hunts the Evil Humans who brought the maggots among them...

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    1. Re:So many... by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 1

      Oh, dear. This cries out for an addition to the Steam game, 'Plants and Zombies', at http://www.popcap.com/games/pvz.

  28. Re:I want some zombie making flies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

        Dude, be careful there. She's probably 4'9", 350 lbs, and has a body even a Mac truck wouldn't want to hit.

  29. Sucker! by Baldrson · · Score: 1
    "Bring over the natural predator from the other continent."

    We are the disease... we are the cure... we are the disease... we are the cure...

    SUCKER!

    1. Re:Sucker! by unlametheweak · · Score: 1

      You said:

      We are the disease... we are the cure... we are the disease... we are the cure...

      From Night of the Living Dead:

      They're us.
      We're them, and they're us.

  30. Alternatives? by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    There are a lot of cases where this kind of approach went terribly wrong, but, what are the alternatives to solve the fire ant problem, without causing far more problems?

    1. Re:Alternatives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are a lot of cases where this kind of approach went terribly wrong, but, what are the alternatives to solve the fire ant problem, without causing far more problems?

      Well ... Obama *was* looking for creative ways to diminish the US nuclear stockpiles...

  31. Fire Ant's Damage by engineerofsorts · · Score: 1

    I believe the imported fire ants have one-neuron brains that work as follows: Am I in contact with something? If yes, bite it. In reality the fire ants have displaced native ant species, which are the primary diets of some much more delightful creatures, the horned lizards. Perhaps the only chance the horned lizards have are the phorid flies to keep the fire ants sufficiently controlled that native ants can make a sufficient comeback to save the horny toads.

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  32. Hulu ad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quick, tell the aliens from the Hulu ad that ant's brains make better soup!

  33. San Antonio by lauless · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is the first year I have not seen any fire ants. It used to be a constant battle, and the bites hurt. A year or two ago the crazy ants showed up (Paratrechina longicornis). They are now everywhere and have evicted the fire ants. They rarely bite, but they are EVERYWHERE (in my yard). They even tried to move into my car. EVERYWHERE.

    1. Re:San Antonio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That would be phase II of IV.

      Whatever you do, skip the yellow, it's no good.

    2. Re:San Antonio by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I just saw some crazy ants I've never seen before in my back yard in Kelseyville, CA. Not only are they exceptionally bitey and bigger than any other ants I've seen in the state but they have weird habits. They run and then stop, look around, run and stop. Well, it's weird to me, anyway, because the ants around here usually just keep moving. These ones seem more efficient. Obviously I haven't had to deal with too many extremely voracious ants.

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  34. Just like... by mister_playboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Just like our current human overlords, then.

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    1. Re:Just like... by Lueseiseki · · Score: 5, Funny

      Meet the new overlords, same as the old overlords.

    2. Re:Just like... by Theolojin · · Score: 2, Funny

      Meet the new overlords, same as the old overlords.

      Dude, 01/20/09 was several months ago.

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    3. Re:Just like... by NatasRevol · · Score: 0, Offtopic
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    4. Re:Just like... by Xiozhiq · · Score: 3, Funny

      Don't blame me; I voted for Kodos.

    5. Re:Just like... by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 1

      Matters only if you believe your overlords are the people you elect.

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    6. Re:Just like... by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Spawn more overlords!

    7. Re:Just like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Meet the new overlords, same as the old overlords.

      We won't be fooled again.

    8. Re:Just like... by DamienNightbane · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Now that's change I can believe in!

    9. Re:Just like... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "It's starting to not look a whole lot different:

      http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/politics/14photos.html?_r=1&ref=politics [nytimes.com]"

      I agree with you that this is the case on most issues, but in this situation, this reversal of decisions was just good common sense.

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    10. Re:Just like... by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      How is lack of transparency a good thing?

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    11. Re:Just like... by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

      5.555555555556e-03 was several months ago?

    12. Re:Just like... by jebrew · · Score: 1

      Works well for my umbrella...Texas...we use them for shade here.

    13. Re:Just like... by jabithew · · Score: 1

      Wow, in America everything is bigger! Even the year has 20 months!

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    14. Re:Just like... by Thinboy00 · · Score: 1

      Wow, he looks hideous in that pic (cue slashdot effect). It just goes to show the NYT is a lot less certain that he's the messiah then they were in 2008 (G.W.Bush's images were always ugly; Hillary's were nice, until she ran, at which point she suddenly uglified a whole lot, and now she's beautiful again; etc.).

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    15. Re:Just like... by armareum · · Score: 1

      Who are you? Who who, who who?

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  35. Will a tinfoil hat protect me from killer flies? by nausea_malvarma · · Score: 1

    What happens when the flies run out of ant brains to devour? Will they crave human brains?

  36. Australians have a simpler solution by EEPROMS · · Score: 5, Informative

    In Australia we have recently had the fire ant invade our island nation with some very nasty environmental results. After years of study the CSIRO have discovered an inherent weakness with the fire ants colonies. The queen is the only ant able to breed in a colony so if you disable her the colony dies. So what we do here in the land of the sun and over sized rabbits called kangaroos is put the fire ant the queen on the pill, so far it has worked very well but like everything needs to be managed.

    More info can be found here

    1. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awesome, I wonder if they have something like that for Carpenter Ants. Every year I battle those bastards. I wipe out the main nest and 3 or 4 satellite nests yet I never seem to be able to get them all.

    2. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by sam_v1.35b · · Score: 3, Funny

      You need to take off and nuke the site from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.

    3. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Direct link to the ABC video report: http://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200704/r138101_470962.asx

    4. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow Austrailians are cool. Too bad we're bordered by Canadians, instead. I have it on good authority they don't even have animals. Just ice and french people.

    5. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great! Nuke Australia from orbit: solve the ant problem, and raise the average IQ at the same time.

      Sorry, smart Australians. I know you exist, but in the face of your countrymen, you're like the goddamn Yeti.

    6. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      America is home to the Not Invented Here (NIH) syndrome, so Australia's success means naught to them.

    7. Re:Australians have a simpler solution by vodevil · · Score: 1

      So what we do here in the land of the sun and over sized rabbits called kangaroos is put the fire ant the queen on the pill, so far it has worked very well but like everything needs to be managed.

      Here in America, our puritanical leaders do not approve of birth control like that. We try to teach the ants about abstinence only, and pray to God that it works.

  37. Good news everyone! by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 1

    "The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie..." Why did this bit read in prof Farnsworth's voice in my head???

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    1. Re:Good news everyone! by Real1tyCzech · · Score: 1

      You, sir... ...are not alone.

      (No, really.. The room is bugged!! Get out! Quick!)

  38. occam's razor, or whatever by chckn.grg · · Score: 1

    flies plant larvae, which eats brain, creates zombie, which wanders around until head falls off. It's like a convoluted JAPH script. Why not just get anteaters? They eat the ants, you're done.

  39. Re:Mod Parent Down if you are Jewish by binarylarry · · Score: 2, Funny

    hmm, is this is fork of openldap that I don't know about?

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  40. Import Everything by hypnolizard · · Score: 1

    Import every species on Earth and it will fix every problem including those you never knew existed - such as that pest, the human being.

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  41. What about the chiggers? by aoheno · · Score: 1

    Will the flies outdo chiggers in laying eggs in animals? Does this mean we can wear shorts in the Texas countryside?

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    1. Re:What about the chiggers? by maxume · · Score: 1

      I was curious what exactly a chigger was (they are supposed to range to Michigan, I imagine the harsher winter here keeps a lid on the population, making it possible for me to wear shorts in the woods for hundreds of hours over the last several years without dealing with them); the reading I did suggests that juveniles bite and feed, and then proceed to drop off before laying eggs, so you don't need to worry about them laying eggs on you, just about the irritation from the bites.

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  42. Missing chase of equals and spreading by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Misleading title: those are not zombie fire ants.

    True zombie fire ants would look for non-zombie fire ants for brains before they die, and turn those into zombies.

  43. The worst part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    And do you know the worst part, Jimmy? They don't kill you right away. No, they paralyze you and then they feast, then they lay eggs inside your head and you're still alive as the little ones crawl out through your nose and mouth, and eventually, your eyes.

    Now go to bed, grampa hears something in the walls he's got to deal with.

  44. Complex issue by Cazakatari · · Score: 0

    First off, to the Australian solution, fire ants here have multiple queen colonies, sometimes dozens. Makes treatment a little more complex.

    Also, the phorid flies are great, but one thing a doctoral student (my boss) found in his research was that fire ants can detect the fly, hide from it in the day, then overcompensate at night (because the flies rest and won't move at night). So the ants won't forage in the day, but they go on a frenzy at night and forage more than they would have otherwise.

    So anyways it is arguable they they only aggravate the problem.

    1. Re:Complex issue by jbolden · · Score: 1

      That's how you win a war. You start to reduce enemy options. If the fire ants now have to act at night and remain dormant during the day, their nests can be attacked during daylight hours safely by ant eating animals that hunt at day.

  45. Zombie RoHS Circuit Fungus by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 5, Informative

    I, for one, fear the eventual introduction of the Taiwanese semiconductor beetle. Not only do its feeding tunnels encourage premature ion migration, it carries the fungus that causes bit rot.

    Actually that fungus that causes bit rot is caused by the lack of lead in the solder that causes "whiskering". Lead kept the whiskering down in circuits; it's removal means now that many forms of electronics will simply "wear out" over time. The whiskers are little tiny cylinders of tin, a conductor, and they tend to grow on new circuits over time. http://archive.evaluationengineering.com/archive/articles/0606/0606lead-free.asp has a good description and accompanying photomicrographs. Lead has been legislated out of solder by RoHS (Reduction of Hazardous Substances) acts in various countries under a variety of names.

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    1. Re:Zombie RoHS Circuit Fungus by Tycho · · Score: 2, Informative

      There are probably some types of reasonably priced types of solder that either do not use tin or have tin and are alloyed in such a way that "tin whiskers" is not an issue. Otherwise, RoHS guidelines offer exemptions for certain applications if no other substance will work or is not economical. For instance, lead is still legal in CRT picture tubes and in the solder bumps between a silicon die and its flip-chip package substrate. However, the EU will not allow one to use lead because lead-free alternatives would add a small amount to the cost of the finished product that goes to the final consumer. The threshold for an exemption is fairly high, as a totally random guess, a 25% cost increase might still be too low, and it may still depend on the item's cost though.

      For comparison, while there were plenty of plumbers that were displeased with the removal and replacement of lead pipes and later lead bearing solder, indoor plumbing is still around and lead-free. These same plumbers may have complained about the added cost of having to use a soldering alloy that uses tin and antimony, but responsible plumbers did it. Pure metallic tin slowly over the course of years goes through a phase change below 58F into a brittle, crumbly, non-metallic phase, potentially resulting in the failure of the solder joint. Look up "tin pest" for more.

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    2. Re:Zombie RoHS Circuit Fungus by jadavis · · Score: 1

      There are probably some types of reasonably priced types of solder that either do not use tin or have tin and are alloyed in such a way that "tin whiskers" is not an issue.

      "Probably"?

      Otherwise, RoHS guidelines offer exemptions for certain applications if no other substance will work or is not economical.

      His argument was that it caused degradation in products that otherwise wouldn't degrade. I'm sure it's possible to try to argue to still use lead in that case, but it's easier to just let the consumer bear the cost of replacing the products. If everyone is doing it, the consumer doesn't have anywhere to turn, and it probably increases the profits of the manufacturers because the consumers have to keep replacing their products.

      It might actually hurt the environment overall, because the hazardous materials that can't be economically replaced are thrown in the landfill every time the products degrade and need to be replaced.

      I don't know what the real alternatives are. My point is that your argument is incomplete.

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  46. Electrical equipment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...and--oddly enough--electrical equipment like circuit breakers."

    Odd, yes, but very true. I live in San Antonio, TX, and I have had two electrical boxes and a window A/C unit destroyed by fire ants. They seem to be attracted to running electrical equipment.

  47. Nature will find a way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    That works only if fire ants don't evolve to have multiple queens in one colony, like the fire ants here in Texas did. To add insult to injury, the worker fire ants will not feed all the queens the same foods, making it difficult to kill all the queens in a colony through poisoning.

    1. Re:Nature will find a way by buka · · Score: 1

      That works only if fire ants don't evolve to have multiple queens in one colony, like the fire ants here in Texas did. To add insult to injury, the worker fire ants will not feed all the queens the same foods, making it difficult to kill all the queens in a colony through poisoning.

      Very interesting... How much time (how much generations) it took them to evolve in such a way ? Can you provide a link to some article ?
      WM

  48. Humans Next Target? by xp · · Score: 1

    How soon before these flies start dive bombing humans and laying their maggot eggs in human heads? Sounds like reality is about to turn into a bad X-Files episode.
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  49. Illithids by KTheorem · · Score: 1

    These are not zombies. They are, in fact, very very small mind flayers.

    1. Re:Illithids by agnosticanarch · · Score: 1

      (W)ear - F greased helmet
      (P)ut on - M blessed ring of sustain ability

      Bring'em on!

      aaa
      a@a
      aaa

      Ah, crap...

      Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! Zombie fire ant bites! You die. --more--

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  50. Fire Ants Cost Me $80 by repetty · · Score: 1

    About twenty years ago, my home air conditioner stopped blowing cold. I called a heating/cooling company to check out the problem and it turned out that ants had crawled into the compressor unit outside my house and mucked up a relay.

    The technician's work consisted of:

    1. identify that little burnt ant bodies were gumming up the works
    2. brush the relay clean.

    At about the same time, my son was two or three years old. He had the worst luck being stung by these little bastards. If you've ever seen a child attacked by these ants, you know that it can be pretty sickening.

    Ever since, anytime I walk past an ant mound I give it a kick just to make their lives unpleasant for a little while.

    --Richard
    (Austin)

    1. Re:Fire Ants Cost Me $80 by whiledo · · Score: 1

      I've had them show up in two unusual places and I've yet to decide which is worse. The first was when they invaded my closet and wound up inside some clothes that were hanging up. The second was when I poured a bowl of cereal and noticed a bunch of ants floating to the top. AFTER eating quite a few bites.

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    2. Re:Fire Ants Cost Me $80 by Povno · · Score: 1

      I lived in Texas for fourteen years. I was eight years old when we moved there in mid-summer from Pennsylvania. Huge change in environment. My first experience with them within weeks was a swarm; one of those "under the sidewalk colonies" that you can't see unless you're really looking. I was in the yard and the next thing I knew I was covered in hundreds of them.

      They've destroyed air conditioners, killed pets, gardening can be useless. Not to mention the near extinction of the horny toad as a result. People have been killed by excessive fire ant bites.

      They are nasty. Unless they have lived around them I don't think people really grasp how big of a problem they are. But if this works, over a period of time it could bring relief to a lot of people. I'm glad to see it.

      There are a lot of things I miss about Texas but fire ants sure as hell aren't one of them.

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  51. God Bless Texas by LonghornXtreme · · Score: 1

    Awwww. Makes me proud. The best country in the world is now taking on the most evil of lawn pests.

    Did you know the little bastards chemically signal to themselves? The swarm a leg, and once the first ant bites, the rest bite synchronously.

    1. Re:God Bless Texas by LonghornXtreme · · Score: 1

      Excuse me... I meant to type "They swarm. . . "

  52. Re:And they dealt with the cane toads by importing by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately there apparently aren't enough cow flops to produce a big enough population of these booby-trap-beetles to wipe out the cane toads. So the toads are still a problem.

    Get more cows? :)

    Mooooooo!

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  53. Did you RTFA? by Rephaim · · Score: 1

    "The flies, which are USDA -approved, do not attack native ants or species and have been introduced in other Gulf Coast states"

  54. Sounds like Micro$oft by cheap.computer · · Score: 0, Troll

    Introduce a bug to squash another bug!

    Windows7->WindowsVista->WindowsXP->Windows95...

  55. Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, I'm very tempted to apply:

    1. Occam's Razor. If someone consistently acts stupid, talks stupid, etc, there are two possible explanations:

    A: He's stupid.

    B: He's a really really smart guy and a great actor, and pretends so well to be stupid that nobody can tell the difference.

    I think you'll agree that the first is the simpler explanation.

    2. The Peter Principle: everyone keeps getting promoted until they become incompetent for the job they just got promoted to. (E.g., because it needs different skills than the previous one.)

    Politicians are actually one of the original examples in Peter's book. To get elected you need charisma, basically. But after you get elected, you need stuff like management skills, you need to know economics, etc. None of those played any role in convincing the people to elect you. So it's quite easy to end up with a bunch of elected politicians who genuinely don't have any more skills than talking convincingly out the arse and looking good in front of a camera. The skills they'd actually need to do a good job in the office, they simply don't have.

    Worse yet, we elect those who can _lie_ convincingly or at least conveniently not mention half the truth. My standard example is the Phillips curve: all else being equal (and invariably out of your control), inflation and unemployment depend on each other. You push one down, the other goes up. Now think of all the politicians whose claim to deserving the office is, basically, "OMG, under the current government there is inflation! We'll reduce that!" or conversely for unemployment. But they never mention that their plan involves the other going _up_. If they told you that, that would be political suicide. So their getting elected depends on claiming to get one up, while strongly implying and getting you to assume (though not actually saying so) that the other will obviously stay put.

    Or occasionally one promises to solve both. 'Cause, I suppose, if you're going to lie anyway, might as well go all the way.

    Then we wonder how come they lie after they got elected, instead of actually doing what they promised. Duh. Because we tested their ability to lie, not the ability to do what they promised. We just promoted someone to a position for which they're unqualified and incompetent.

    3. As a bonus: Hanlon's Razor. Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

    I don't doubt that some of the above mentioned don't outright lie, but genuinely Peter's Principle applies. They don't understand economics well enough to know that they're promising an impossibility.

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    1. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Hal_Porter · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Have you read this

      http://www.apa.org/journals/features/psp7761121.pdf

      People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd.

      It's truly +1 Funny/Insightful. And yet highly disturbing (-1 Troll) too, because clearly everyone must have areas where they lack ability and also lack 'metacognitive ability' to know they lack ability. It's absolutely an awesome read the first time you do so.

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    2. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      I guess it would explain a few things. Thanks for that link.

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    3. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by maxume · · Score: 1

      <wailing>But humor is subjective.</wailing>

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    4. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Sj0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's not funny, you asshole. Relativists sort of killed my father, and kinda raped my mother. Well.... It's sort of a grey area, what they did...

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    5. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      I think they're well aware of that. Mind you, consider this passage.

      Materials. We created a 30-item questionnaire made up of jokes we
      felt were of varying comedic value. Jokes were taken from Woody Allen
      (1975), Al Frankin (1992), and a book of "really silly" pet jokes by Jeff
      Rovin (1996). To assess joke quality, we contacted several professional
      comedians via electronic mail and asked them to rate each joke on a scale
      ranging from 1 (not at all funny) to 11 (very funny). Eight comedians
      responded to our request (Bob Crawford, Costaki Economopoulos, Paul
      Frisbie, Kathleen Madigan, Ann Rose, Allan Sitterson, David Spark, and
      Dan St. Paul). Although the ratings provided by the eight comedians were
      moderately reliable (a = .72), an analysis of interrater correlations found
      that one (and only one) comedian's ratings failed to correlate positively
      with the others (mean r = -.09). We thus excluded this comedian's ratings
      in our calculation of the humor value of each joke, yielding a final a of .76.

      Expert ratings revealed that jokes ranged from the not so funny (e.g.,
      "Question: What is big as a man, but weighs nothing? Answer: His
      shadow." Mean expert rating = 1.3) to the very funny (e.g., "If a kid asks
      where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is 'God is crying.'
      And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is
      'probably because of something you did.'" Mean expert rating = 9.6).

      That's objectively hilarious right there.

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    6. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by DragonWriter · · Score: 1

      Politicians are actually one of the original examples in Peter's book. To get elected you need charisma, basically. But after you get elected, you need stuff like management skills, you need to know economics, etc. None of those played any role in convincing the people to elect you. So it's quite easy to end up with a bunch of elected politicians who genuinely don't have any more skills than talking convincingly out the arse and looking good in front of a camera. The skills they'd actually need to do a good job in the office, they simply don't have.

      Management skills are usually at least as necessary to run a campaign organization than to do a politicians job, as, except perhaps for chief executives, campaign organizations are usually the biggest, most complex organization a politician will have direct responsibility for managing even if they win. Sure, that may be dealt with by choosing senior campaign staff with that skill, but choosing staff with management skill is equally applicable to the management a politician has to do in office, as well, and selecting staff is itself a management skill.

      There may be skills -- particularly, as regards understanding policy issues -- that campaigns often fail to select for that one would usually consider important in office, but management skills aren't among them.

      Worse yet, we elect those who can _lie_ convincingly or at least conveniently not mention half the truth. My standard example is the Phillips curve: all else being equal (and invariably out of your control), inflation and unemployment depend on each other.

      The "invariably out of your control" part is, well, exactly the thing you accuse politicians of doing.

    7. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by vertinox · · Score: 1

      B: He's a really really smart guy and a great actor, and pretends so well to be stupid that nobody can tell the difference.

      Emperor Claudius

      Sometimes playing dumb will save your life. Turns out the royal slow child actually was a genius who pretended to be dumb in order to avoid his insane relatives purges.

      Yes, it is likely that you are encountered a really dumb person, but even I play dumb around the girlfriend to avoid responsibilities sometime.

      Hell... How many times have you heard those congressional hearing that people said "I forgot." or "I can't remember".

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      -Sigismund, Holy Roman Emperor (1368-1437)
    8. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Almost-Retired · · Score: 1

      And to this I would add one more question:

      What happens if this parasite gets into a human? Either by this insect biting a human who walked on it at the beach, or mowing the grass, or even a child just playing in the yard?

      Methinks this could lead to even more drastic problems than it 'fixes'.

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                                      -- H.G. Wells' last words.

    9. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Xaedalus · · Score: 1

      Well, seeing as how South America has not yet devolved into a phorid-worm infested zombie hellhole, I don't think this is something you need to worry about.

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    10. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, I'm very tempted to apply:

      1. Occam's Razor

      3. As a bonus: Hanlon's Razor.
       

      I see a promising future for you in Gillette

    11. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      It's also a good argument for making sure people are broadly educated. Back when I used to do tech support, the biggest asshole know-it-alls tended to be medical doctors (there were some nice ones, but not very often.) They thought that since they were doctors, they HAD to be smarter than everyone else, in every way. Caused a fair bit of friction when explaining to them what they wanted or thought something did and what the reality was were two very different things. Very specialized, directed education can make a person oblivious.

    12. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by reallyjoel · · Score: 1

      Apply Occam's Razor to your own theory about promotion.

    13. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Moraelin · · Score: 1

      1. It's not _my_ theory. The Peter principle is the observation and resulting book of Dr. Laurence J. Peter and Raymond Hull. And, again, politicians are their own example in that book.

      2. Well, that said, I don't see a problem.

      The fact is that some people do get promoted to jobs they're incompetent for. The theory that it was because they did well in the previous job is really the simplest and requires the least suspension of disbelief. Contrasting theories, like, say, the Dilbert Principle, are both more complex and require one to believe that someone would deliberately sabotage their own organization by promoting those who are known to be incompetent for both their current and future job.

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    14. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rape isn't funny. Unless you're being raped by a clown.

    15. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Alpha830RulZ · · Score: 1

      Very specialized, directed education can make a person oblivious

      Perhaps not unlike computer technologists.

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    16. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Battle_Ratt · · Score: 1

      To see this principle in action, watch the American Idol tryouts.

    17. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by TheLink · · Score: 1

      > Worse yet, we elect those who can _lie_ convincingly

      Uh huh. Like I said. The voters are the stupid ones. Especially the ones who _reelect_ some allegedly stupid person.

      How can you call a politician incompetent if they get _reelected_ time after time?

      The voters are the incompetent ones (unless we're talking about one of those "Dictator's fake re-elections" or countries with "Democratic" ironically in their names).

      If the voters don't like any of the candidates, they could be candidates themselves, or try to convince better people to run/stand.

      Everyone keeps saying the politicians are stupid. Maybe they are, but they aren't that stupid. The voters who _keep_ voting for them are even more stupid/incompetent. As for the voters who don't bother to vote at all - they are saying they don't care.

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    18. Re:Occam's Razor & Peter Principle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Rape is always funny, as long as it's happening to hypothetical people.

  56. Enough is enough! by atraintocry · · Score: 1

    I have had it with these motherfuckin' ants, on this motherfuckin' circuitry!

  57. "On the internet, nobody knows you're really a ... by sonamchauhan · · Score: 1

    'eldavojohn' writes: "...eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain..."

    Three adjectives, no less.

    Exactly who is the submitter? :-)

  58. Video Link - Same thing with wasp. by vatik · · Score: 1

    I saw this story on the local news in DFW tonight. It reminded me of the following NatGeo youtube clip of the parasitic wasp:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMG-LWyNcAs

    It is WELL worth watching. For the ADHD crowd, skip to 3:25.

    1. Re:Video Link - Same thing with wasp. by hotrodent · · Score: 1
      This is also very cool:::

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN2XMyxAs5o

      The insect world is FREAKY!

  59. Old lady by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
    I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
    Perhaps she'll die

  60. Zombies that fire ants?! by 117 · · Score: 1

    Is this the basis for the next George A. Romero film?

  61. Not so much because of electricity by ScottBob · · Score: 1

    I've had many of my solar powered lawn lights turn into ant farms simply because they make great shelter. Ants love warmth. Here's an experiment: Get an empty paint can, drill a small hole on the side near the bottom and set it outside preferably in an out of the way yet sunny part of the yard; e.g. by a fence. Watch how fast that sucker fills up with ants. With the sun beating down on telephone and cable hookup boxes, in my neighborhood about half of them have ant mounds around them. And yard transformers are warm all year round, the little buggers get inside and pile up moist dirt until they reach the conductors and bzzzt! What amazes me is how high they'll climb to build a nest- At a previous neighborhood where the utilities were strung up on poles, I called the phone company complaining of line noise one day, so they came out and found an ant nest inside the rubber boot on the pole 25 feet in the air.

    But where I live, ants aren't so much a problem in window AC units as brown paper wasps are...

  62. Wanna see those poor ants? by marcuz · · Score: 1

    You can see those zombie ants in Planet Earth documentary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_Earth_(TV_series)#8._.22Jungles.22

  63. Bring the over-overlords! by mangu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When they mentioned bringing the natural predator from another continent, I imagined this.

    Now, that would be a cool animal to set loose in Texas!

    1. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When they mentioned bringing the natural predator from another continent, I imagined this.

      Now, that would be a cool animal to set loose in Texas!

      Yeah! Skip the flies, and go with the funky looking ant eater thingy!!! Actually, can we do both? Cause I DO like beef, and I don't think fire ant can taste very good.

    2. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      Or how about this.

    3. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by AJNeufeld · · Score: 2, Funny

      I know an old Texan
              who imported a fly ...
      I don't know why
            he imported a fly ...
      Perhaps he'll die.

    4. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by wtansill · · Score: 1

      When they mentioned bringing the natural predator from another continent, I imagined this. Now, that would be a cool animal to set loose in Texas!

      Won't be long before we have a recipie for that...

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      The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power. -- Daniel Webster
    5. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by gmrath · · Score: 1

      Hey, this is funny. Sort of like: What's the difference between zoos in the North and zoos in the South? Well, the zoos in the North have nameplates next to the animal exhibits and on those nameplates are the animals' common names, scientific names, and a little of the animals natural history. The zoos in the south have nameplates that have the animals' common name . . . and a recipe.

    6. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by smarch · · Score: 1

      That was the original plan. But after the increased number of alien sightings when Emu farms started, they decided to go with something a little less noticable.

    7. Re:Bring the over-overlords! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this animal a zombie too?

  64. Attraction to electrical components by bxbaser · · Score: 1

    It seems to me it they have an attraction to electrical equipment that would solve the problem of attracting them to an electronic ant zapper.

  65. You may remember by YourExperiment · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hi, I'm a zombifying parasite. You may remember me from such insects as cockroaches and grasshoppers.

    1. Re:You may remember by stonewallred · · Score: 5, Insightful

      From the South, I can only think of the lovely plant we brought over to help stop erosion, and how well the kudzu worked for us.

    2. Re:You may remember by Moryath · · Score: 1

      Or of course there's always the wonderful Northern Snakehead, which is all set to destroy the Great Lakes...

    3. Re:You may remember by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      Hi, I'm a zombifying parasite. You may remember me from such insects as cockroaches and grasshoppers.

      Hi, I'm his wife. You may remember me from such events as the weddings to my 2nd and 3rd husbands.
      I'm also a zombifying parasite.

      --
      [Fuck Beta]
      o0t!
    4. Re:You may remember by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this some reference to Plants vs. Zombies? I can't tell o.o

    5. Re:You may remember by mdm-adph · · Score: 1

      I don't know what you're talking about, kudzu is delicious.

      It's the 6-in thick roots that grow up to 12-foot deep and can spread over an entire field that's the real pain in the ass.

      --
      It is by my will alone my thoughts acquire motion; it is by the juice of the coffee bean that the thoughts acquire speed
  66. So this is how it begins... by confused+one · · Score: 1

    Great. Eventually the flies will decide they like human brains more than ant brains. (Seems like a no brainer to me). Then we'll start to see people dragging their feet, kind of looking like they'd missed their morning coffee, for a few days... Final stage: You hear someone shuffle up behind you, then hear BRAINNSSS. Thus begins Zombie Apocalypse...

  67. Re:I want some zombie making flies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    She's probably 4'9", 350 lbs, and has a body even a Mac truck wouldn't want to hit.

    Yes, but the probability of her having a real vagina is 99,99%.

  68. shock headline by PopeRatzo · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's 6:23 in the AM, and this is what's sitting on my RSS reader:

    Texas Makes Zombie Fire Ants

    Some days you just want to crawl back into bed.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  69. Animal by Runaway1956 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Animal, vegetable, or mineral?

    Screw taxonomy. If it moves, it's an animal, eat it. If it don't move, it might be vegetable, eat it. If it wasn't a vegetable, you needed your minerals anyway.

    --
    "Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
    1. Re:Animal by Thuktun · · Score: 1

      If it moves, it's an animal, eat it.

      Plants can move, albeit too slowly to escape capture.

      That's why we should all avoid vegetables and eat free-range meat. At least then your meal had a chance to flee.

  70. Dumb people don't know dumb from smart by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

    Many politicians just pretend to be stupid because in many cases voters prefer voting for people who are like them (i.e. stupid).

    Per my subject, dumb people don't know dumb from smart. I read it on the interpedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downing_effect), so it must be true!

    This means the lower the IQ score of an individual, the less capably he or she can appreciate and accurately appraise others' intelligence. The lower someone's IQ, the more likely he is to rate himself as more intelligent than those around him.

    If dumb people want someone who's dumb, they could pick just about anyone: they don't know who's actually smart, and they think they're smarter anyways, so in their eyes everyone else is dumb.

    1. Re:Dumb people don't know dumb from smart by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Sure, but are we talking about dumb people? Most presidents are smarter than average.

      See:

      http://www.csbsju.edu/USPP/Bush/Bush-IQ-Myth.html

      As for Bush himself, see his SAT scores: http://www.iuptown.com/YaleProtest/bushs_yale_transcript.htm
      And for a rough pre-1974 SAT to IQ conversion see: http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/Pre1974SAT.aspx

      I daresay most politicians are smarter than average. You may be smarter than them, but they just have to be smart enough to win elections, e.g. winning the hearts and minds of the average voter.

      Average IQ by definition is 100 [1].

      They're smart enough to figure out the average person is stupider than they are, and how to get what they want. Even if it means pretending to be dumber than they are.

      In the USA, "dumb blonde" sells more than "smart brunette", so some people go "fake dumb" and "fake blonde". e.g. Paris Hilton might be smarter than she behaves, probably even smarter than average.

      [1] If the education system gets worse and worse, your IQ scores could go up even if you decline mentally - since 100 by definition is the average score and if the next generation end up really stupid, go figure ;).

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  71. We won't get fooled again! by wiredog · · Score: 1

    Oooh! Look! Shiny!

  72. Oh great... by marco.antonio.costa · · Score: 1

    Making zombies. What a fine idea. *goes back to playing Left 4 Dead 24/7*

    --
    Send your spendthrift head of state this
  73. great idea. by arndawg · · Score: 1

    This is a very good idea. Nothing can possibly go wrong!

  74. Could we put by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Could we put lasers on the frikkin' flies' heads?

  75. Re:And they dealt with the cane toads by importing by LordKronos · · Score: 2, Informative

    And the best part is, if the cows get out of control, we've already got effective (and tasty) methods of dealing with that problem.

  76. this bothers me. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    greatly. was a study conducted before this was done?
    you cant just mix baking soda into vinegar to solve your vinegar problem.
    the flies are an uncontrolled natural variable.
    once out of ants the flies will adapt to other insects as a food source.
    in 10 years, be prepared to fight the flies instead.
    eventually it may come to pass these flies may not have a natural predator, or may have destroyed all available natural predators by this time.

    --
    Good people go to bed earlier.
  77. do we need to do this? by sckeener · · Score: 1

    didn't we already have another ant fighting Texas fire ants?

    http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/15/129244
    Swarming Ants Destroy Electronics in Texas
    Posted by timothy on Thursday May 15, @07:34AM from the where's-tiny-ender-when-you-need-him dept.
    AntOverlords writes "Voracious swarming ants that apparently arrived in Texas aboard a cargo ship are invading homes and yards across the Houston area, shorting out electrical boxes and messing up computers. They have ruined pumps at sewage pumping stations, fouled computers and at least one homeowner's gas meter, and caused fire alarms to malfunction. They have been spotted at NASA's Johnson Space Center and close to Hobby Airport, though they haven't caused any major problems there yet."

    --
    "Only one thing, is impossible for god: to find any sense in any copyright law on the planet." Mark Twain
  78. another solution by pak9rabid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Here's a solution.

  79. Was a Science Show About This by geoffrobinson · · Score: 1

    All this fly does is attack these ants, and no other ant.

    --
    Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
  80. Re:And they dealt with the cane toads by importing by holmstar · · Score: 1

    There was a problem with cattle dung... ... several feet across

    Eww.

  81. Obligatory Simpsons Reference by Pharmboy · · Score: 1

    Skinner: Well, I was wrong; the lizards are a godsend.

    Lisa: But isn't that a bit short-sighted? What happens when we're overrun by lizards?

    Skinner: No problem. We simply release wave after wave of Chinese needle snakes. They'll wipe out the lizards.

    Lisa: But aren't the snakes even worse?

    Skinner: Yes, but we're prepared for that. We've lined up a fabulous type of gorilla that thrives on snake meat.

    Lisa: But then we're stuck with gorillas!

    Skinner: No, that's the beautiful part. When wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death.

    --
    Tequila: It's not just for breakfast anymore!
  82. Pain by vajorie · · Score: 1

    The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie that wanders around for two weeks before the head falls off and the ant dies.

    I'm sure the ant loves to die like this simply because humans entered his environment and don't want him there. Excellent work, keep it up.

    1. Re:Pain by jbolden · · Score: 1

      Even if you are a Peta person....

      These ants have wiped out other species if all species are equally valuable then they fire ants are guilty of systematic genocide.

      This is a animal rights operation.

    2. Re:Pain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I know it's silly to expect someone to RTFA, but how about the first sentence of the summary:

      What do you do when a foreign species has been introduced to your land from another continent?

      Fire ants are not native to Texas, i.e. the ants entered the human's environment. Even worse, the ants are displacing other native species.

    3. Re:Pain by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the ant doesn't love anything. It's a frickin' ant.

  83. Well... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What could go wrong?

  84. Co-workers by KiwiCanuck · · Score: 1

    "The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie that wanders around for two weeks before the head falls off and the ant dies" I knew a few co-workers who were like that. ~:-)

  85. Phew! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    And it's a good thing that species are incapable of adapting to their environments, especially ones with short lifecycles that produce lots of young! I mean imagine if they could attack all the other species of ants instead of just one, it would be a total disaster! But there's no record of useful insects evolving undesirable traits and becoming a dangerous pest, so it should be totally safe. They're USDA-approved, after all.

    --
    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    1. Re:Phew! by pwfffff · · Score: 1

      I see your totally-likely-to-evolve other-ant-eating-flies, and raise you a just-as-likely-to-evolve people-eating-fire-ant. Ha!

    2. Re:Phew! by Rephaim · · Score: 1

      Also from the article, they've been doing this in Texas since 1999. If it had not been working we would have been cracking bad puns about it long before this.

  86. The Rorschach beetle! BADASS! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Finally they found a BIG dung beetle that would use cow flops. The cane toads would eat this one, too. But it was a big hardy bug. So it would dig its way out of the toad. Problem (and toad) solved. B-)

    "I'm not trapped inside of you...YOU'RE TRAPPED WITH ME INSIDE!"

    --
    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  87. Gives me the shivers by ray-solomon · · Score: 1

    The maggot hatches and eats away juicy tender delicious ant brain until the ant is nothing more than a zombie that wanders around for two weeks before the head falls off and the ant dies

    This is an utterly utterly utterly disgusting picture you just painted in my head. I just lost my appetite thank you.

  88. Combine with Mushrooms by jameskojiro · · Score: 1

    They should combine this approach with the one that uses mushrooms to infect and kill insects, that way it is a double whammy!

    --
    Tsukasa: All I really want, is to be left alone...
  89. we should all avoid vegetables by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  90. Re:Occam's Razor .... by splatter · · Score: 1

    Brings to mind a quote:

    "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."

      Abraham Lincoln

    --
    "(I) have this unfortunate condition that causes me not to believe a single thing any politician says when a mic's on.
  91. In the words of Tom Tucker.... by motherpusbucket · · Score: 1

    "What I did was wrong." "As an act of contrition, I will now insert this carnivorous phorid fly maggot into my brain. " "Kind of tickles." [Screaming] "Oh, God! It's eating out the back of my eyes! "

    --
    "You can't really dust for vomit" --Nigel Tufnel
  92. Re:And they dealt with the cane toads by importing by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

    The sustainable population of cows is limited by the availability of water and forage, both of which I hear are in short supply in Australia. Ecological damage and erosion caused by cattle overgrazing may exceed the damage caused by cane toads. And no one wants to eat an emaciated cow -- it's the fat that makes them so tasty.

    --
    I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
  93. Too late to save Cinco de Mayo, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "It's called Eco-Kill, Hank. The government would not let them use the term "eco" unless it was ecologically safe."

  94. Re:And they dealt with the cane toads by importing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're called cow pies. Cow flops are the successful end of cow tipping.

  95. Everything I Need to Know About Pest Control by scerruti · · Score: 1

    ...I learned in preschool.

    There was an old lady who swallowed a fly.
    I dunno why she swallowed that fly,
    Perhaps she'll die.

    There was an old lady who swallowed a spider,
    That wiggled and wiggled and tickled inside her.
    She swallowed the spider to catch the fly.
    But I dunno why she swallowed that fly -
    Perhaps she'll die. ... and so on ...

    She dies in the end.

  96. Obilgatory Pratchett by Randle_Revar · · Score: 1

    Moist looked around, sorting hastily through the Post Office's recent little problems. Apart from Drumknott, who was standing by his master with an attitude of deferential alertness, they were alone.

    "Look, I can explain," he said.

    Lord Vetinari lifted an eyebrow with the care of one who, having found a piece of caterpillar in his salad, raises the rest of the lettuce.

    "Pray do," he said, leaning back.

    "We got a bit carried away," said Moist. "We were a bit too creative in our thinking. We encouraged mongooses to breed in the posting boxes to keep down the snakes . . ."

    Lord Vetinari said nothing.

    "Er . . . which, admittedly, we introduced into the letter boxes to reduce the numbers of toads . . ."

    Lord Vetinari repeated himself.

    "Er . . . which, it's true, staff put in the posting boxes to keep down the snails . . . "

    Lord Vetinari remained unvocal.

    "Er . . . These, I must in fairness point out, got into the boxes of their own accord, in order to eat the glue on the stamps," said Moist, aware that he was beginning to burble.

    "Well, at least you were saved the trouble of having to introduce them yourselves," said Lord Vetinari cheerfully. "As you indicate, this may well have been a case where chilly logic should have been replaced by the common sense of, perhaps, the average chicken. But that is not the reason I asked you to come here today."

  97. Re:Occam's Razor .... by diqmay · · Score: 1

    I though Mark Twain said that...

  98. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if the flys develop a taste for HUMAN BRAINS ??

    Has it ever happened ?

    What about small mamals or Armadillos ??

  99. Will No One Speak Up for the Fireants?! by Chukcha · · Score: 1

    When they zombified the fireants, I said nothing
    because I was not a fireant...

  100. Makes sense now.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in South Africa we have loads of brainless people in government, i.e. loads of Zombies. The government has full control over our countries power supply, which is terrible. And if zombie ants are attracted to power cables, it explains why our country keeps having power shortages, the president keeps eating the cables at our power stations!!

  101. Re:Occam's Razor .... by splatter · · Score: 1

    I looked it up again it looks like it's attributed to George Eliot, Abraham Lincoln (also Confucius), Mark Twain, and finally the bible.

    Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. -- 'Proverbs' 17:28.

    --
    "(I) have this unfortunate condition that causes me not to believe a single thing any politician says when a mic's on.