Yeah, that would be nice. But why would the ISP decide to give you money when they could keep it for themselves? Something like AllAdvantage has a buisness model based around giving money to the customer; that's the service they provide - cash for surfing. An ISP is already providing you a product - internet access. They don't need to give you money to keep you using them, unlike pay-to-surf type buisnesses.
Feedback; no. Cancellations, yes. If the general public is convinced to find an ISP that doesn't monitor them, I have a feeling a lot of ISPs would think twice about monitoring.
I would think (and hope) that something like that would have to be in the user agreement. And if you called up your ISP and asked, they had better not tell you no if they are doing it. However, it's rather impropable to check every week or something, and there's really no way to know if they don't post something on their homepage. The best possibile scenerio (short of it not happening) is this: Someones ISP starts doing this, and doesn't notify anyone, doesn't modify its user agreement, doesn't post anything anywhere about it. That person finds out, and takes it to court, or something of that nature, and a precident is set _requiring_ ISPs to notify users, with at the very least a post on their website, that they are selling their browsing history, and, hopefully, allow them to opt out of that. Personally I don't think it makes sense for ISPs to do it, because, regardless of the amount of money they are paid, even the most ignorant customers will be -very- upset if they find out. I work tech support at an ISP, and I can tell you, these people get pissed over much smaller things than that. So the best thing we can do, if this does come to pass, is make as much noise as possibile about it.. Get it featured on TV, radio, all over the web.. wherever we can. The more publicity, the more likely the average Joe Shmoe will wonder if he's being monitored.
This is just plain bad. I don't want my ISP selling where I go to.. I think if ISPs start implementing this the smart people will switch to an ISP that doesn't.
This is rediculous.. why are you people whining about being quoted in a book? Who really gives a shit? And if it's too expensive, don't buy it! jeez.. People will just take any god damn excuse they can find to whine... I started reading comments in this article hoping to read something insightful about the book, or something at least interesting.. not this pointless Hemos/Katz bashing bullshit. Some of you people need to grow up and stop whining.
That's a little different. I assume it's internal, or USB. It still does everything in hardware, but it basically bypasses the ethernet card standard DSL modems require. A good thing if you're windows-only, but not worth the pain of making it work in any other OS.. (Belive me, I tried to get a Efficient Networks internal DSL card working in: Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD. The most success I got was getting NetBSD to crash on boot).
Re:Oh no, not another Winmodem...
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I work for an ISP, in tech support. I definitly know how much winmodems just plain suck. If someone can't connect, 9 times out of 10 it's because they have a winmodem. People refuse to belive that their new expensive computer came with the crappiest $2 modem on earth (then of course, there's the people who think their eMachine is a new, expensive computer...) I do wonder why Dell, Gateway, etc. put such crappy modems in their supposedly "high-end" PCs. On a related note, my friend has an eMachine (I pity him).. he pulled out the HCF piece-of-shit in it and put in a 33.6 because it was actually -faster- in addition to not making his computer lag (mp3s skipped when downloading stuff! come on!) That is, until he got DSL... Which is another thing.. any internal DSL "modem", or even an external USB, is just bad. If everyone stuck with the nice external ones, where you just hook it into an ethernet card, there would be -no- problems with software support, as no software is needed! (this excludes things such as PPPoE, PPPoATM, PPTP, etc, which are standards and can be adopted into any OS without having to support 10,000 different hardware vendors).
So basically, this whole "DSL Winmodem" thing combines two very bad ideas, Winmodems, and internal DSL 'modems'. Unfortunitly, it's initially cheaper, so I'm sure it'll be popular.. I know when I order DSL I'm making sure I get a nice external ethernet one.
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I remember writing one of those in my programming class back in 9th grade. Written in Scheme, EdScheme actually, on a mac.
That happened to me once too.. I don't remember what the circumstances of it, but I woke up just after finishing to realize I had pissed myself. Pretty annoying.
One of the fastest sites I've seen is ftp.twoguys.org.. I've gotten 1.5 mbps (that's megabits) - T1 speed - from them on bellsouth ADSL.. They host a ton of Unix/Linux related mirrors.. very nice site.
I don't think that's accurate statistics.. perhaps women cared more to represent themselves in whatever poll these results came from? Just from personal experiance, I don't see a lot of women playing games. There's really no good reason for it, except that that's not what they're 'supposed' to do. A large market for games like Q3A are high-school and college students, I would imagine. Women in high-schools and colleges are not expected to be 'geeky', or sit on computers all day, which is perfectly acceptable for males. There's no good reason for this, it's simply societys fault. Also, a lot of males are very protective of their 'territory'. It's like the clubhouse where no girls are allowed. People like that are sexist, and the main contributors to the problem. If the main audience for gaming magazines was not testosterone-filled males who want to get off and play a game at the same time, then thier ads would not cater to that demographic.
PS - I'm a guy, 18 years old. I think women gamers/geeks are a wonderful thing, and fully support, even help, any girl who wants to learn to use computers better. I agree that gaming magazines are overly sexist. Don't get me wrong - I like pr0n as much as the next guy - but it has it's place, and that's not in a gaming magazine.
Well, that describes me in high school pretty accuratly. (BTW: I dropped out last spring, got a GED, and am in tech school now).
I hung out with a small circle of friends, basically those who shared my interests. I was a Doom2 junkie in middle school/early high school. Never got much into quake though. I didn't get bullied all that much, mostly because I ran around in all black, combat boots, and a trenchcoat (BEFORE the colorado incident, mind you, I hung up the coat for a while afterwords) and did my best to look like someone you'd want to avoid. I skipped a lot of school, being bored, and spent my time online at home. My self esteem was less than perfect, being on prozac and other drugs at times. I got kicked out of my house into HRS custody for a year, so I guess that counts as a dysfunctional family =). But despite all this, I never had violent tendancies. I'm very against violence. If someone hit me, I'd probably either take it, or run away. It isn't so much that I couldn't fight back, it's that I wouldn't want to. I would only fight in defense of my life. So, even though this would target me, it would be without need. Most of the 'issues' mentioned above were by choice. I hung out with those people because they understood me, we shared common interests, and had fun together. I liked the internet and violent games because it was a fun way to pass time, and learn things (the internet, anyway.. you don't learn much except how to strafe from doom). I dressed how I did (and still do) because I like the style. Even though I fit the profile, I certainly am not a dangerous person. And I know quite a few people like me, who are also not dangerous. If I had not dropped out, I would be a senior, and I'd be very afraid if they started doing this at my school. I wasn't around school after the colorado incident, but I imagine I would have been targeted by the administration had I been. I think it is a shame to prosecute the innocent people who never will do harm because of a few mentally unstable people who happen to fit into the same group. What if we started investigating all people named 'Fred' because there was a rise in murders commited by people named 'Fred'? Obviously, it's a stretch, but that's kind of what they are doing, and it's definitly not the right approach.
note: you can read my life story (in brief) at my web page, if you so desire =P
Man, Second Reality blew me away.. I was all of 12 or so years old then, and that was probably the coolest thing my 486 (and I) had ever seen.. Future Crew, in my opinion, were gods.. wonder whatever happened to them.. back in the Quake days I remember a rumor that they were working on a FPS.. guess that fell through.
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Speaking of publicity, my parents say that there was something about Linux on NPR, but I didn't hear it so I don't necessarily believe them. Somebody verify this. My father said there was a feature on Linus and Linux, and this was several (>6) months ago.
Hey, the 28th of December is my birthday! Damn I feel special. Okay, maybe not, but it's still pretty cool. I'm turning 18 though, so I guess I'm off by a few(!) years.
I didn't see the show, I rarely watch TV anyway, I find even the most pointless discussions on/. more interesting. However today in school ( a networking class in tech school, which would make you assume the people in it are moderatly computer literate, which is wrong ), where it is known that I'm a geek and a coder, one guy said to me, 'You're a hacker, aren't you? I saw a show on MTV last night about hackers, you must be one, you know so much." I had to laugh, I am not, and have no desire to be, a hacker, especially not the type it seems the MTV show portrayed. I think this kind of thing puts a negative image on us geeks in general. The mis-education of the public about anything technological is disgusting. Off topic, I hate movies portrayal of computers for the same reason. The saddest part is, you know someone who knows what they are doing had to code the computer to do that lame unrealistic crap.. it's sad.
I'm 17. MTV really sucks. VH-1 is a lot better. Maybe that's just me, but all my friends feel the same.
We're all geeks though, I guess we don't count. For the average gangsta-rap loving teen, MTV is probably interesting. Based on the average person my age's attention span, I wouldn't doubt it.
Well, I have ADHD (as does my father, possibly inherited) and am bipolar (as is my mother, most likley inhereted). I don't know if there's a relationship between the two or if I am just unlucky.
BTW: Caffine does not really have a reverse effect on me, espresso rocks. However, I don't take Methalphineadate anymore (Never too ritalin, always the generic stuff), and haven't in ~5 years, maybe more, I don't remember (I'm 17 now) So it's quite possible I've gotten slightly past it through early treatment.. anyone know if this is possible ( I started taking Methalphineadate when I was 5, btw)
This is an interesting situation - at one end, if Monsanto were to limit these plants, it would have a negative impact on farming. On the other hand, I have to agree that they deserve to make money off of it, and if they do not have a method of limiting the seeds, what is to stop a farmer from selling off his seeds cheaper? And once everyone has Monsanto seeds, Monsanto has no more buisness, and they lose out. Doesn't seem very fair for them.
But if they were to use some method of limiting seeds/distribution/whatever, then the world would not benefit nearly as much, and we would still have a large food shortage.
As much as I agree that this should be in widespread use, Monsanto should definitly get what they deserve for it, as well.
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Yeah, that would be nice. But why would the ISP decide to give you money when they could keep it for themselves? Something like AllAdvantage has a buisness model based around giving money to the customer; that's the service they provide - cash for surfing. An ISP is already providing you a product - internet access. They don't need to give you money to keep you using them, unlike pay-to-surf type buisnesses.
Feedback; no. Cancellations, yes. If the general public is convinced to find an ISP that doesn't monitor them, I have a feeling a lot of ISPs would think twice about monitoring.
I would think (and hope) that something like that would have to be in the user agreement. And if you called up your ISP and asked, they had better not tell you no if they are doing it. However, it's rather impropable to check every week or something, and there's really no way to know if they don't post something on their homepage.
The best possibile scenerio (short of it not happening) is this:
Someones ISP starts doing this, and doesn't notify anyone, doesn't modify its user agreement, doesn't post anything anywhere about it. That person finds out, and takes it to court, or something of that nature, and a precident is set _requiring_ ISPs to notify users, with at the very least a post on their website, that they are selling their browsing history, and, hopefully, allow them to opt out of that.
Personally I don't think it makes sense for ISPs to do it, because, regardless of the amount of money they are paid, even the most ignorant customers will be -very- upset if they find out. I work tech support at an ISP, and I can tell you, these people get pissed over much smaller things than that. So the best thing we can do, if this does come to pass, is make as much noise as possibile about it.. Get it featured on TV, radio, all over the web.. wherever we can. The more publicity, the more likely the average Joe Shmoe will wonder if he's being monitored.
This is just plain bad. I don't want my ISP selling where I go to.. I think if ISPs start implementing this the smart people will switch to an ISP that doesn't.
This is rediculous.. why are you people whining about being quoted in a book? Who really gives a shit? And if it's too expensive, don't buy it! jeez.. People will just take any god damn excuse they can find to whine... I started reading comments in this article hoping to read something insightful about the book, or something at least interesting.. not this pointless Hemos/Katz bashing bullshit. Some of you people need to grow up and stop whining.
That's a little different. I assume it's internal, or USB. It still does everything in hardware, but it basically bypasses the ethernet card standard DSL modems require. A good thing if you're windows-only, but not worth the pain of making it work in any other OS.. (Belive me, I tried to get a Efficient Networks internal DSL card working in: Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD. The most success I got was getting NetBSD to crash on boot).
I work for an ISP, in tech support. I definitly know how much winmodems just plain suck. If someone can't connect, 9 times out of 10 it's because they have a winmodem. People refuse to belive that their new expensive computer came with the crappiest $2 modem on earth (then of course, there's the people who think their eMachine is a new, expensive computer...) I do wonder why Dell, Gateway, etc. put such crappy modems in their supposedly "high-end" PCs.
On a related note, my friend has an eMachine (I pity him).. he pulled out the HCF piece-of-shit in it and put in a 33.6 because it was actually -faster- in addition to not making his computer lag (mp3s skipped when downloading stuff! come on!) That is, until he got DSL...
Which is another thing.. any internal DSL "modem", or even an external USB, is just bad. If everyone stuck with the nice external ones, where you just hook it into an ethernet card, there would be -no- problems with software support, as no software is needed! (this excludes things such as PPPoE, PPPoATM, PPTP, etc, which are standards and can be adopted into any OS without having to support 10,000 different hardware vendors).
So basically, this whole "DSL Winmodem" thing combines two very bad ideas, Winmodems, and internal DSL 'modems'. Unfortunitly, it's initially cheaper, so I'm sure it'll be popular.. I know when I order DSL I'm making sure I get a nice external ethernet one.
I remember writing one of those in my programming class back in 9th grade. Written in Scheme, EdScheme actually, on a mac.
Maybe I'm just dumb, but I don't think that applies to a concerned citizen sending a letter to his government representitive.
That happened to me once too.. I don't remember what the circumstances of it, but I woke up just after finishing to realize I had pissed myself. Pretty annoying.
One of the fastest sites I've seen is ftp.twoguys.org.. I've gotten 1.5 mbps (that's megabits) - T1 speed - from them on bellsouth ADSL.. They host a ton of Unix/Linux related mirrors.. very nice site.
I don't think that's accurate statistics.. perhaps women cared more to represent themselves in whatever poll these results came from? Just from personal experiance, I don't see a lot of women playing games. There's really no good reason for it, except that that's not what they're 'supposed' to do. A large market for games like Q3A are high-school and college students, I would imagine. Women in high-schools and colleges are not expected to be 'geeky', or sit on computers all day, which is perfectly acceptable for males. There's no good reason for this, it's simply societys fault. Also, a lot of males are very protective of their 'territory'. It's like the clubhouse where no girls are allowed. People like that are sexist, and the main contributors to the problem. If the main audience for gaming magazines was not testosterone-filled males who want to get off and play a game at the same time, then thier ads would not cater to that demographic.
PS - I'm a guy, 18 years old. I think women gamers/geeks are a wonderful thing, and fully support, even help, any girl who wants to learn to use computers better. I agree that gaming magazines are overly sexist. Don't get me wrong - I like pr0n as much as the next guy - but it has it's place, and that's not in a gaming magazine.
Well, that describes me in high school pretty accuratly. (BTW: I dropped out last spring, got a GED, and am in tech school now).
I hung out with a small circle of friends, basically those who shared my interests.
I was a Doom2 junkie in middle school/early high school. Never got much into quake though. I didn't get bullied all that much, mostly because I ran around in all black, combat boots, and a trenchcoat (BEFORE the colorado incident, mind you, I hung up the coat for a while afterwords) and did my best to look like someone you'd want to avoid. I skipped a lot of school, being bored, and spent my time online at home. My self esteem was less than perfect, being on prozac and other drugs at times. I got kicked out of my house into HRS custody for a year, so I guess that counts as a dysfunctional family =).
But despite all this, I never had violent tendancies. I'm very against violence. If someone hit me, I'd probably either take it, or run away. It isn't so much that I couldn't fight back, it's that I wouldn't want to. I would only fight in defense of my life. So, even though this would target me, it would be without need. Most of the 'issues' mentioned above were by choice. I hung out with those people because they understood me, we shared common interests, and had fun together. I liked the internet and violent games because it was a fun way to pass time, and learn things (the internet, anyway.. you don't learn much except how to strafe from doom). I dressed how I did (and still do) because I like the style.
Even though I fit the profile, I certainly am not a dangerous person. And I know quite a few people like me, who are also not dangerous.
If I had not dropped out, I would be a senior, and I'd be very afraid if they started doing this at my school. I wasn't around school after the colorado incident, but I imagine I would have been targeted by the administration had I been. I think it is a shame to prosecute the innocent people who never will do harm because of a few mentally unstable people who happen to fit into the same group. What if we started investigating all people named 'Fred' because there was a rise in murders commited by people named 'Fred'? Obviously, it's a stretch, but that's kind of what they are doing, and it's definitly not the right approach.
note: you can read my life story (in brief) at my web page, if you so desire =P
Man, Second Reality blew me away.. I was all of 12 or so years old then, and that was probably the coolest thing my 486 (and I) had ever seen.. Future Crew, in my opinion, were gods.. wonder whatever happened to them.. back in the Quake days I remember a rumor that they were working on a FPS.. guess that fell through.
Speaking of publicity, my parents say that there was something about Linux on NPR, but I didn't hear it so I don't necessarily believe them. Somebody verify this.
My father said there was a feature on Linus and Linux, and this was several (>6) months ago.
Yeah, but when it does it repeatadly, not long after the article was posted? It's suspicious.
Got a HTTP/1.1 Server Too Busy error.. does that count as MSNBC being slashdotted?
Hey, the 28th of December is my birthday! Damn I feel special. Okay, maybe not, but it's still pretty cool. I'm turning 18 though, so I guess I'm off by a few(!) years.
I didn't see the show, I rarely watch TV anyway, I find even the most pointless discussions on /. more interesting. However today in school ( a networking class in tech school, which would make you assume the people in it are moderatly computer literate, which is wrong ), where it is known that I'm a geek and a coder, one guy said to me, 'You're a hacker, aren't you? I saw a show on MTV last night about hackers, you must be one, you know so much." I had to laugh, I am not, and have no desire to be, a hacker, especially not the type it seems the MTV show portrayed. I think this kind of thing puts a negative image on us geeks in general. The mis-education of the public about anything technological is disgusting. Off topic, I hate movies portrayal of computers for the same reason. The saddest part is, you know someone who knows what they are doing had to code the computer to do that lame unrealistic crap.. it's sad.
I'm 17.
MTV really sucks.
VH-1 is a lot better.
Maybe that's just me, but all my friends feel the same.
We're all geeks though, I guess we don't count. For the average gangsta-rap loving teen, MTV is probably interesting. Based on the average person my age's attention span, I wouldn't doubt it.
Well, I have ADHD (as does my father, possibly inherited) and am bipolar (as is my mother, most likley inhereted). I don't know if there's a relationship between the two or if I am just unlucky.
BTW: Caffine does not really have a reverse effect on me, espresso rocks. However, I don't take Methalphineadate anymore (Never too ritalin, always the generic stuff), and haven't in ~5 years, maybe more, I don't remember (I'm 17 now) So it's quite possible I've gotten slightly past it through early treatment.. anyone know if this is possible ( I started taking Methalphineadate when I was 5, btw)
This is an interesting situation - at one end, if Monsanto were to limit these plants, it would have a negative impact on farming. On the other hand, I have to agree that they deserve to make money off of it, and if they do not have a method of limiting the seeds, what is to stop a farmer from selling off his seeds cheaper? And once everyone has Monsanto seeds, Monsanto has no more buisness, and they lose out. Doesn't seem very fair for them.
But if they were to use some method of limiting seeds/distribution/whatever, then the world would not benefit nearly as much, and we would still have a large food shortage.
As much as I agree that this should be in widespread use, Monsanto should definitly get what they deserve for it, as well.
can't help but laugh at this.
zero cool, eh?
hahahahhahahaha.