Ok their internet connection was turned off at the request of unrevealed people, without a criminal charge or notification. There isn't even an attempt at establishing any kind of proper authority, just a command from someone powerful enough to make it happen. That's far worse than Exxon (or someone acting in Exxon's interests) being required to take this act publicly.
"More generally, an answer person's apparent altruism provides an important explanatory challenge for models of collective action raising the possibility that people may be contributing to public goods for social goods like status "
a group of mid level government bureaucrats who obviously have not thought very far down the road as to the possible implications, legal or otherwise.
Why do you think they haven't thought it through? Because it allows for police abuses? They work for the city, they don't give a shit. City workers cut other city workers alot of slack. Because we have already paid for the public spaces, they should belong to the average citizen? Bullshit. Public spaces belong to city organizations, which are run by mid level governemnt bureaucrats. You will pay for the right to use that space as many times as they tell you to. And the police will back them up, everytime. As for the News Agencies and who is a professional? That really depends on what you are filming. Do the police want you to film that? Does the city want you to film that? Do they think they can charge you money to film that? It's all more money and power to the government, which is always the governments prime motivation. Those bureacrats knew exactly what they were doing, they just hoped to disguise it enough that you didn't.
If you choose a life where you say you don't value money, don't come crying to your political masters 20 years down the road for not having any.
If you choose a life where you don't value your rights, don't come crying to me when 20 years down the road you don't have any.
When I look at my life I look beyond the end of my street, and I don't like what I see. An issue like global warming won't have a practical impact on you, but you grand children are going to be killed by it. The won't be able to "just move inland" because everyone else from all the most populous places on earth will all be doing the same. Once everyone gets there, the fresh water supplies will fail because the overcrowding on top of the lack of infrastructure. So now you have hundreds of millions of displaced people worldwide, a potable water shortage, and guess what pops up everytime you have widespread conditions like that? Disease. So no you personally might not be effected, but your grandchildren and great grand children will die most misreable deaths because you refuse to take resposibility for anything past the end of your driveway. Don't confuse money with respect, freedom, or responsibility. Some actions have effects beyond making or losing a dollar, maybe when you grow up you'll see that.
You also have to consider what facet of the nation you are talking about when you say "national priority". Are you talking about the common priorities of the populous or are you talking about the priorites of those in power? War is a great vehicle for expanding government powers and leeway in government faults. Some of which is necessary when the war is necessary. But no one ever wants to let go of the power or leeway so nowadays we have perpetual semi-war. The DMZ is a great example, not quite a war, but not, not a war.
The fight against poverty and ignorance doesn't pay in cash. If someone gives social justice an advertising budget, I'm sure that the marketing folk will gladly do their thing.
This is a cure for death, unless I'm badly mistaken.
This is an attempted cure for death, of course death will stil find a way it will just be more violent or virulent. I understand why the ageing boomers would want this, but I think it is a worse idea than just about anything else they have managed yet, and that's saying alot. Let's look at the state of the world and figure out what will happen if the wealthiest 10% stop dieing: Great acceleration of an already expanding wealth gap. Younger generations locked out of the high end of the business and political world. (The good old boys will become the good ancient boys)Greater acceleration of the human population.
These are not good things for the world, they are the kinds of things that fuel wars.
Should impersonating a police officer, identity theft, false advertising and passing fake checks all have the same punishment? Isn't that part of the judges responsibility? Should stealing someone's ID and using it to buy beer have the same punishment as stealing someone's ID and useing it to clean out their savings and max out their credit cards? That's why crimes have one set punishment each.
My school bully is also in jail for at least one violent crime. "Malicious Wounding" I believe. In regard to the GGGP I think that you would find that out of the school bully demographic you get the most politicians, slimeball high power execs, and violent criminals. In short all people who are willing to abuse other people to achieve their ends. They just utililize different forms of power over others.
One way to get new toys is to break the old ones. If you had driven those greenscreen monitiors down a crater, they would have been replaced with some new shiny CGA monitors. I don't htink NASA is setting out to break "the little rover that could" but they are getting more and more adventerous with it, doing things that may have previously been ruled out for safety concerns. "The last thing it ever does" is better than saying "Hey everybody, Watch this!"
Speaking of kids that need some realism injected into their lives:
A child's tantrum onboard a Delta commuter flight forced a pilot to make an emergency landing at Philadelphia International Airport.
The forced landing was caused by a fight over apple juice.
A 4-year-old wanted apple juice and when the stewardess didn't get it quick enough, the child threw a tantrum, NBC 10 reported.http://www.nbc10.com/news/13575254/detail .html?dl=headlineclick
While bullying and insulting frequently go to far, that is the way many children learn the social norm. And before everyone get all righteous about not needing to conform, let me just say bullshit. You have to understand the social norm before you walk you own path and not create unintended repercussions (ie only child syndrome). Parents allowing their kids to do things and act in ways that they would never accept outside of the parent/child relationship are just asking for that kid to be ostrisized when they get out into the world.
Which again raises the question, of why there is more than one issue per bill. It's easy to see how RealID and immigration would be connected, but there is no honest reason to attach the two together. That can be said for most things attached to most bills as they make the rounds through the hallowed halls of Congress. How can we as mere voters, get Congress to pass a law allowing only one line item per bill?
I generally agree with you, the owners name being tagged to the file is a fair compromise between the interests of the labels and the interests of the customer. It's parallel to the serial number on a gun: If you are only ever going to use it legally you can forget that it is there. If you file it off, you are doing so to allow for misuse.
After that, I had enough information to properly warn my daughter what to expect, and what not to do.
While I think the old model of the music industry is dieing and mp3s will eventually all be free, you already had that information before you went to the presentation. "Listen kid, every band signed on to a RIAA label is backed by rabid lawyers. The bands that made the music have a right to decide what to do with it, and they chose to sign on to labels that sue fans. Don't buy or steal their music. Even if you don't get called into court there is no sense in supporting a band that would allow their management to abuse their fans. If you want music to be free support and listen to free music."
of course what kid ever listened to their parents about music?
"I know I'd rather be six feet under than lay in a bed for the next 50-70 years."
I think that's the whole point of this tech. To give some sort of social life to those who are both immobile and without the real life support network to have a fufilling life inspite of their physical limitations. And before you knock this "social life" too much, consider how many people spend the majority of their time in WoW or EVE chatting or helping friends, completely by their own choice. I could think of nothing better for establishing a good game community than to adapt it to a demographic that would likely use the game as a primary means of social interaction. And if I only ever know them as the high level character who helped me out when I was a newbie and who is quick on the chat lines with a joke or a helpful suggestion, maybe that that would be just fine with someone who is unable to be helpful or chatty IRL.
In this particular case the risk of a trapdoor in the platform code is a lower concern than the risk of the running code being substituted on the final machine.
IANAProgrammer, But for this application neither is acceptable. Given what the code is required to do (allow for the selection of a vote in each catagory, record said votes, provide totals for each catagory) shouldn't the code be blindingly simple? Give me ANSI graphics and no mouse driver. Give me three imputs: cursor up, cursor down, enter/select. Hell, it can print out on a dot matrix. It should be a requirement that the code be small enough to be reviewed completely, without excessive effort.
First you say..Leave the defending the country stuff to the people who know how to do it right
Then you say... If you haven't noticed, we have enough to worry about.
Maybe you haven't read up on the history of all of our current conflicts, but two things from it are fairly obvious: 1. The people setting policy of defending our country are more concerned about "nation building" than the security of USA or the lives of our troops, beyond the bad PR when American soldiers are killed.
I understand why you don't want mass civilian oversight looking over you shoulder while you are training. Nobody wants to be constantly monitored or critiqued while they go about their work. But what are we as the "civilians" supposed to do to to assure the proper use of OUR military when so much of the most important work is secret? When I think about the US military I think about my cousins and highschool buddies and the military families I grew up with. I have the highest respect for the commitment and lives of our troops. I do not have the same respect for motivations or intentions of the people who deploy our troops overseas at the drop of a hat. How would you balance the secrecy neccesary to keep troops safe vs. keeping the actions of our government out in the open where the American citizen can know what their elected government is doing?
I'm not in any kind of CS field, but as I freelanced successfully for years I've got some experience with scoping out new employers. Which kind of employer would you rather work for, the one who look at your grades and ignore your OSS work or the one who would look at your OSS work and ignore your grades? You may well have to work under the management of the person who hires you, what they focus on is going to strongly impact your work day.
Why then? The FBI didn't do anything useful 10 September 2001. Maybe if the various intelligence agencies had actually made the world a better place they would possibly have reason for more power and wider control. But with the exception of the FBI helping solve occasssional domestic crimes, the work of the intelligence community has resulted in ever greater hatred and violence through out the world. Of course this reenforces our "need" for them, and we have a very obvious cycle. It was the very security agencies that are grabbing more power every day that made America so hated as to inspire international terrorism.
No. I said the Military has no need of secret operations outside of a declared warzone.
But why shouldn't I have the military equivilent of a police radio monitor? I grew up in Virginia Beach next to the largest Navy base on the East Coast, why shouldn't I know when flight manuvers will be practiced over my neighborhood? or that will an amphibious assault training exercise at 4am on the beach at the base? or that there was and accident on one of the ships? or anything else going on in a peacetime military? If they are the might behind the Democratic will of the people, why can't the people know what they are doing? Unless of course they are doing something that the average citizen would find to be abhorrent, like:
"Sophisticated military technology was illegally transferred from a major U.S. company in Lancaster, Pennsylvania to South Africa and Chile and, from there, on to Iraq. The Iraqi-born designer of a chemical weapons plant in Libya set up shop in Florida, producing and then shipping to Iraq chemical weapon components. The CIA, the FBI and other federal agencies were made aware of the operation and did nothing to prevent it. "During the 1980s and into the '90s, senior officials of both the Reagan and Bush administrations encouraged the privatization of foreign policy, certainly towards Iran and Iraq. http://www.jonathanpollard.org/iraq.htm
Yeah what about an alliance? Of the five Nuke armed countries, I think the UK and France would likely side with us, but the arguement is moot. If we launched 5 nukes and they launched 5 nukes, no one would "bounce back". That's why it's call "mutually assured distruction". Germany,Italy and Japan don't have any nukes. Except of course the ones we put there on our military bases.
As for saboteurs or terrorists infiltrating a known location: they would not disable them, they would detonate them. Suddenly having fewer vulnerable points becomes a good thing. And if we can't keep 10 nukes in our own country secure, we probably shouldn't have any. Armed incompetence is fatal.
Ask yourself, with a 5 year head start, why are "smartphones" still only "Geek" toys? Why aren't they good enough for everybody? Apple is trying to get it's 10% of the market by bringing NEW users into smartphones!!
The biggest problem with smartphones and the iPhone is size. If you aren't carrying a bag or wearing cargo pants, they just don't fit. Going out dancing or bar hopping with a Treo clipped to your hip just looks stupid. If they really want to revolutionize phones, every iPhone needs to come with an iPhone-nano that rings at the same phone number.
Sure we could publish the launch codes, because we don't really need more than about 10 nukes anyway. Get rid of all the rest. Nukes are zero deterrent in modern urban warfare. The sole continued purpose is to prevent the use of nukes against us by another nation. What nation in the world would not be decimated by losing their 10 most populous cities? Every nuke beyond that is just a terrorist target or accident waiting to happen. It's easier to keep 10 locations physically secure than 50 or 100 locations, if anyone ever actually gets to the button, why would a fucking code stop them?
As for the military frequencies, why would the military need to be conducting secret operation on it own citizens? Sure you don't want kids with walkie-talkies being able to talk to fighter pilots while thay are training, but there should be not a single classified military action taking place outside of a declared warzone. Our US Special Forces have no business going to influence a internal conflict in another country. Ever. If it's that fucking important who wins the foriegn internal conflict, then it is worth declaring publicly. Honesty really is the best policy.
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Ok their internet connection was turned off at the request of unrevealed people, without a criminal charge or notification. There isn't even an attempt at establishing any kind of proper authority, just a command from someone powerful enough to make it happen. That's far worse than Exxon (or someone acting in Exxon's interests) being required to take this act publicly.
"More generally, an answer person's apparent altruism provides an important explanatory challenge for models of collective action raising the possibility that people may be contributing to public goods for social goods like status "
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Well yes people like to be favorably for contributing positively. Is greater status wrong in the light of greater contribution? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/06/03/19472
a group of mid level government bureaucrats who obviously have not thought very far down the road as to the possible implications, legal or otherwise.
Why do you think they haven't thought it through? Because it allows for police abuses? They work for the city, they don't give a shit. City workers cut other city workers alot of slack. Because we have already paid for the public spaces, they should belong to the average citizen? Bullshit. Public spaces belong to city organizations, which are run by mid level governemnt bureaucrats. You will pay for the right to use that space as many times as they tell you to. And the police will back them up, everytime. As for the News Agencies and who is a professional? That really depends on what you are filming. Do the police want you to film that? Does the city want you to film that? Do they think they can charge you money to film that? It's all more money and power to the government, which is always the governments prime motivation. Those bureacrats knew exactly what they were doing, they just hoped to disguise it enough that you didn't.
If you choose a life where you say you don't value money, don't come crying to your political masters 20 years down the road for not having any.
If you choose a life where you don't value your rights, don't come crying to me when 20 years down the road you don't have any.
When I look at my life I look beyond the end of my street, and I don't like what I see. An issue like global warming won't have a practical impact on you, but you grand children are going to be killed by it. The won't be able to "just move inland" because everyone else from all the most populous places on earth will all be doing the same. Once everyone gets there, the fresh water supplies will fail because the overcrowding on top of the lack of infrastructure. So now you have hundreds of millions of displaced people worldwide, a potable water shortage, and guess what pops up everytime you have widespread conditions like that? Disease. So no you personally might not be effected, but your grandchildren and great grand children will die most misreable deaths because you refuse to take resposibility for anything past the end of your driveway. Don't confuse money with respect, freedom, or responsibility. Some actions have effects beyond making or losing a dollar, maybe when you grow up you'll see that.
You also have to consider what facet of the nation you are talking about when you say "national priority". Are you talking about the common priorities of the populous or are you talking about the priorites of those in power? War is a great vehicle for expanding government powers and leeway in government faults. Some of which is necessary when the war is necessary. But no one ever wants to let go of the power or leeway so nowadays we have perpetual semi-war. The DMZ is a great example, not quite a war, but not, not a war.
The fight against poverty and ignorance doesn't pay in cash. If someone gives social justice an advertising budget, I'm sure that the marketing folk will gladly do their thing.
This is a cure for death, unless I'm badly mistaken.
This is an attempted cure for death, of course death will stil find a way it will just be more violent or virulent. I understand why the ageing boomers would want this, but I think it is a worse idea than just about anything else they have managed yet, and that's saying alot. Let's look at the state of the world and figure out what will happen if the wealthiest 10% stop dieing: Great acceleration of an already expanding wealth gap. Younger generations locked out of the high end of the business and political world. (The good old boys will become the good ancient boys)Greater acceleration of the human population.
These are not good things for the world, they are the kinds of things that fuel wars.
Should impersonating a police officer, identity theft, false advertising and passing fake checks all have the same punishment? Isn't that part of the judges responsibility? Should stealing someone's ID and using it to buy beer have the same punishment as stealing someone's ID and useing it to clean out their savings and max out their credit cards? That's why crimes have one set punishment each.
My school bully is also in jail for at least one violent crime. "Malicious Wounding" I believe. In regard to the GGGP I think that you would find that out of the school bully demographic you get the most politicians, slimeball high power execs, and violent criminals. In short all people who are willing to abuse other people to achieve their ends. They just utililize different forms of power over others.
One way to get new toys is to break the old ones. If you had driven those greenscreen monitiors down a crater, they would have been replaced with some new shiny CGA monitors. I don't htink NASA is setting out to break "the little rover that could" but they are getting more and more adventerous with it, doing things that may have previously been ruled out for safety concerns. "The last thing it ever does" is better than saying "Hey everybody, Watch this!"
While bullying and insulting frequently go to far, that is the way many children learn the social norm. And before everyone get all righteous about not needing to conform, let me just say bullshit. You have to understand the social norm before you walk you own path and not create unintended repercussions (ie only child syndrome). Parents allowing their kids to do things and act in ways that they would never accept outside of the parent/child relationship are just asking for that kid to be ostrisized when they get out into the world.
Which again raises the question, of why there is more than one issue per bill. It's easy to see how RealID and immigration would be connected, but there is no honest reason to attach the two together. That can be said for most things attached to most bills as they make the rounds through the hallowed halls of Congress. How can we as mere voters, get Congress to pass a law allowing only one line item per bill?
I generally agree with you, the owners name being tagged to the file is a fair compromise between the interests of the labels and the interests of the customer. It's parallel to the serial number on a gun: If you are only ever going to use it legally you can forget that it is there. If you file it off, you are doing so to allow for misuse.
After that, I had enough information to properly warn my daughter what to expect, and what not to do.
While I think the old model of the music industry is dieing and mp3s will eventually all be free, you already had that information before you went to the presentation. "Listen kid, every band signed on to a RIAA label is backed by rabid lawyers. The bands that made the music have a right to decide what to do with it, and they chose to sign on to labels that sue fans. Don't buy or steal their music. Even if you don't get called into court there is no sense in supporting a band that would allow their management to abuse their fans. If you want music to be free support and listen to free music."
of course what kid ever listened to their parents about music?
"I know I'd rather be six feet under than lay in a bed for the next 50-70 years."
I think that's the whole point of this tech. To give some sort of social life to those who are both immobile and without the real life support network to have a fufilling life inspite of their physical limitations. And before you knock this "social life" too much, consider how many people spend the majority of their time in WoW or EVE chatting or helping friends, completely by their own choice. I could think of nothing better for establishing a good game community than to adapt it to a demographic that would likely use the game as a primary means of social interaction. And if I only ever know them as the high level character who helped me out when I was a newbie and who is quick on the chat lines with a joke or a helpful suggestion, maybe that that would be just fine with someone who is unable to be helpful or chatty IRL.
fingerprints are a lot harder to fake than a passport.
The Mythbusters would disagree with you. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA4Xx5Noxyo
In this particular case the risk of a trapdoor in the platform code is a lower concern than the risk of the running code being substituted on the final machine.
IANAProgrammer, But for this application neither is acceptable.
Given what the code is required to do (allow for the selection of a vote in each catagory, record said votes, provide totals for each catagory) shouldn't the code be blindingly simple? Give me ANSI graphics and no mouse driver. Give me three imputs: cursor up, cursor down, enter/select. Hell, it can print out on a dot matrix. It should be a requirement that the code be small enough to be reviewed completely, without excessive effort.
First you say..Leave the defending the country stuff to the people who know how to do it right
Then you say... If you haven't noticed, we have enough to worry about.
Maybe you haven't read up on the history of all of our current conflicts, but two things from it are fairly obvious: 1. The people setting policy of defending our country are more concerned about "nation building" than the security of USA or the lives of our troops, beyond the bad PR when American soldiers are killed.
I understand why you don't want mass civilian oversight looking over you shoulder while you are training. Nobody wants to be constantly monitored or critiqued while they go about their work. But what are we as the "civilians" supposed to do to to assure the proper use of OUR military when so much of the most important work is secret? When I think about the US military I think about my cousins and highschool buddies and the military families I grew up with. I have the highest respect for the commitment and lives of our troops. I do not have the same respect for motivations or intentions of the people who deploy our troops overseas at the drop of a hat. How would you balance the secrecy neccesary to keep troops safe vs. keeping the actions of our government out in the open where the American citizen can know what their elected government is doing?
I'm not in any kind of CS field, but as I freelanced successfully for years I've got some experience with scoping out new employers. Which kind of employer would you rather work for, the one who look at your grades and ignore your OSS work or the one who would look at your OSS work and ignore your grades? You may well have to work under the management of the person who hires you, what they focus on is going to strongly impact your work day.
Beer at home: $1
If you spend all your free time at home why do you need the internet, photos, and music on your phone? Just use your desktop.
Why then? The FBI didn't do anything useful 10 September 2001. Maybe if the various intelligence agencies had actually made the world a better place they would possibly have reason for more power and wider control. But with the exception of the FBI helping solve occasssional domestic crimes, the work of the intelligence community has resulted in ever greater hatred and violence through out the world. Of course this reenforces our "need" for them, and we have a very obvious cycle. It was the very security agencies that are grabbing more power every day that made America so hated as to inspire international terrorism.
But why shouldn't I have the military equivilent of a police radio monitor? I grew up in Virginia Beach next to the largest Navy base on the East Coast, why shouldn't I know when flight manuvers will be practiced over my neighborhood? or that will an amphibious assault training exercise at 4am on the beach at the base? or that there was and accident on one of the ships? or anything else going on in a peacetime military? If they are the might behind the Democratic will of the people, why can't the people know what they are doing? Unless of course they are doing something that the average citizen would find to be abhorrent, like:
Yeah what about an alliance? Of the five Nuke armed countries, I think the UK and France would likely side with us, but the arguement is moot. If we launched 5 nukes and they launched 5 nukes, no one would "bounce back". That's why it's call "mutually assured distruction". Germany,Italy and Japan don't have any nukes. Except of course the ones we put there on our military bases. As for saboteurs or terrorists infiltrating a known location: they would not disable them, they would detonate them. Suddenly having fewer vulnerable points becomes a good thing. And if we can't keep 10 nukes in our own country secure, we probably shouldn't have any. Armed incompetence is fatal.
Ask yourself, with a 5 year head start, why are "smartphones" still only "Geek" toys? Why aren't they good enough for everybody? Apple is trying to get it's 10% of the market by bringing NEW users into smartphones!!
The biggest problem with smartphones and the iPhone is size. If you aren't carrying a bag or wearing cargo pants, they just don't fit. Going out dancing or bar hopping with a Treo clipped to your hip just looks stupid. If they really want to revolutionize phones, every iPhone needs to come with an iPhone-nano that rings at the same phone number.
Sure we could publish the launch codes, because we don't really need more than about 10 nukes anyway. Get rid of all the rest. Nukes are zero deterrent in modern urban warfare. The sole continued purpose is to prevent the use of nukes against us by another nation. What nation in the world would not be decimated by losing their 10 most populous cities? Every nuke beyond that is just a terrorist target or accident waiting to happen. It's easier to keep 10 locations physically secure than 50 or 100 locations, if anyone ever actually gets to the button, why would a fucking code stop them?
As for the military frequencies, why would the military need to be conducting secret operation on it own citizens? Sure you don't want kids with walkie-talkies being able to talk to fighter pilots while thay are training, but there should be not a single classified military action taking place outside of a declared warzone. Our US Special Forces have no business going to influence a internal conflict in another country. Ever. If it's that fucking important who wins the foriegn internal conflict, then it is worth declaring publicly. Honesty really is the best policy.