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  1. They are, however, the measure.

    Yes, and...?

    On average, possibly, that's why the start of middle age is considered soft. But the point is that generally around the mid-forties it's harder to conceive and many women have already hit the biological brick wall at that point.

    No. The definitions provided by the wiki are either 40 or 45 for the start (they are two separate definitions). You are welcome to consider it a soft start though - but the provided definitions don't have a soft start.

    That seems improbable to me, as the majority of people won't get access to their retirement benefits for another five years. Additionally there's a hell of a lot of people who retired long after 65.

    Well, I guess you have access to google and can disprove it in about 5 seconds.

    You can. But... what is the point? You talk about major events that affect lifestyles as being "not the best measure", but instead suggest something completely unrelated to how life is lived such as splitting a lifetime into equal portions is meaningful in some way.

    Meaningful to whom? I mean, why would you do that? Why three? Why break it up at all? We don't talk about middle age because we're interested in the passage of time, we talk about it because it's a phase of life, and it would be an extraordinary mathematical coincidence if the phases of life just happened to line up with average-adult-life-expentence/3.

    I told you the point. So you can see when the mathematical start of the middle third of your life is. Some people who use mathematics every day (like me), tend to quantify things with numbers. It doesn't "mean" anything other than what it is. You are reading waaaaaay too much into it. A lot of us are in fact interested in the passage of time. Again, it's an arbitrary "phase of life" when you include so many variables that aren't related and don't apply to everyone. To make that clear, menopause is a phase of life, so is puberty, but when you start with a biological phase of life like these, then chuck in some sociological factors as an end point, then you have an arbitrarily defined "phase of life". Arbitrary phases will differ a lot from decade to decade and country to country (which is fine of course).

    To talk of middle age the way you're doing is to divorce not merely the term from its meaning, but from the reason the term exists in the first place.

    How am I talking of it? I'm being critical of the markers used but that doesn't divorce the term from it's meaning. I'm having a bit of fun examining the term.

    Actually, yeah there is. If you start using phrases that are in common use with your own definitions, then people won't understand what you're talking about, and you'll be babbling incoherently without adding knowledge.

    If we were to talk about the history of the PC, and I said "It's a shame the PC died sometime around 1992, it was a great thing, and nobody has ever successfully brought it back", you'd be pretty pissed off at me if it turned out I was using the word PC to describe "Computers made by Commodore".

    So yeah, you have to at least try to use the same definitions everyone else is doing in normal life. In your case, bizarrely you're the one creating an arbitrary definition, while calling everyone else's arbitrary, when in fact they're using the phrase correctly. Yes, there's some fuzziness there, but that's not because the term is bad, it's because it's difficult to pin down exact dates that describe that middle phase of life.

    Yeah, nah. There is not a rule. You inadvertently proved this (of course). You can make up any definition you like. I thought it was obvious (silly me - should have specified) that to use the new definition you must tell your audience of your definition (like I did in my example). So you just redefined PC and

  2. Indeed it is a bit vague. There is no official definition and people disagree on what any definition should be.

    Why not just use the years for the period that one is writing about?
    E.g. "people born from 1991 to 2006", etc. And if the years can't be narrowed down, then maybe the author should reevaluate what they are trying to express...

  3. Thanks...
    I did I link the wiki that already says what you are retelling...

    Biological markers, like "the end of young adulthood (women's menopause)", combined with sociological markers like "start of old age (retirement ages for pensions, etc," aren't the best measure. Menopause starts on average at 51 years old for women in the US. The average retirement age for people in the US is 60 years old. So women would have a 9 year "middle age" period. Men wouldn't even have a middle age. They would have young adulthood leading straight into old age at 60 (active adult males have fertility for ages as you already alluded to).

    My point about the mathematical measure is that you can divide your life into young, middle, and old by thirds. That's all. A simple fact for people to digest when looking at the provided definitions from the wiki.

    Lastly, the wiki simply points to other people's arbitrary definitions. Anyone can define it anyway they like. There is no rule in life that says you can't make up your own definition....

    Young adulthood is the period of life when you could play computer games all day and hang with your mates.
    No so young adulthood is the period of life when you have to work all day and no longer have time to play computer games, instead building a massive library of Steam games that you'll play, one day, and always having to put off hanging out with your mates
    Middle age is the period of life... etc., etc. you get the picture.

  4. The wikipedia entry says 40 to 60, or 45 to 65, depending on the authority.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

    Middle age mathematically starts at about 28 years and lasts to about 57 (the middle third of your life if you die at 85).

  5. Re:Understood on Hundreds Rally For Their Right To Not Vaccinate Their Children (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    Fair enough, makes more sense now. Rereading it I believe I read your comment incorrectly.

    I would argue that the vector in this case is other humans. I.e. oncoviruses use humans as their vector to spread.

    So you can come into contact with people who might have cancer caused by a virus, and these people may infect you with the same virus that may then give you cancer. The end scenario being that you developed cancer by coming into contact with another human being.

  6. Re:Understood on Hundreds Rally For Their Right To Not Vaccinate Their Children (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    So, with your superior knowledge of analogies, your suggestion is....?

    I'll give you mine. We give more targeted education about vaccines, we give more free vaccines, we give rewards for vaccines, etc.

    I don't support punitive measures that will get anti vaccine proponents hackles up and possibly doubly punish children.

  7. Re:Understood on Hundreds Rally For Their Right To Not Vaccinate Their Children (msn.com) · · Score: 1

    One?

    Oncovirus is a class of viruses.

    For example, the human papilloma virus. The HPV vaccine immunises against 9 different strains of HPV.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  8. Re:The Results on Finland Basic Income Trial Left People 'Happier But Jobless' (bbc.com) · · Score: 1

    Australia has been paying unemployed people $890 USD (plus extras on top of that) per month for decades (adjusted for inflation annually of course). The amount of long term unemployed people paid this is over 577,000.

    This income is paid specifically to help them find work. Australia keeps some of the best population statistics around and you now have enough people to "determine the economic impact on any sort of measurable scale."

    https://www.humanservices.gov....
    https://www.dss.gov.au/sites/d...

  9. Re:Vaccine for everyone on Australia Set To 'Eliminate' Cervical Cancer By 2028 (cnn.com) · · Score: 1

    I'm not super knowledgeable on this but...

    Socially beneficial policies driven by a democratically elected government that taxes the income from the workers in the free market economy does not equal socialism. I.e. publicly funded health initiatives does not equal socialism.

    It is so far away from socialism it's not even worth putting them in the same sentence.

  10. Re:Asus, Gigabyte or MSI on Ask Slashdot: Which Motherboard Manufacturer Provides the Best Support? · · Score: 2

    Not a useful anecdote to dissuade people away from one of the companies that did in fact update many 5+ years old motherboards with firmware updates for Spectre and Meltdown.

    Rest assured, every motherboard maker out there has a certain percentage of products returned as faulty every year. Yours was one of them.

  11. Re:Asus, Gigabyte or MSI on Ask Slashdot: Which Motherboard Manufacturer Provides the Best Support? · · Score: 2

    You jumped the gun a little there in regards to ASRock.

    Reasons for not seeing them on the second hand market:
    - people are keeping them because they are going strong
    - they don't have high resale value so they are binning them instead of selling them
    - they are failing prematurely
    - or most likely of all, your sample of the second hand motherboard market is incredibly small

  12. Re: Does anyone really believe the government here on Cody Wilson, 3D-Printed Gun Pioneer, Arrested In Taiwan (reason.com) · · Score: 1

    "I even saw a Ted talk by a woman claiming that women were biologically designed to start having children after 35 years old"

    That's crazy talk.

    At the age of 31, 50% of women are subfertile!

    Between the ages of 30 and 40, live birth rates from a conception almost halves!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...

  13. Re:Please stop on A Tesla on Autopilot Crashed Into a Parked Police Car (fortune.com) · · Score: 1

    All the people complaining about the name "Autopilot" being misleading have one thing in common: They don't own or drive Teslas.

    Let me guess... You didn't do a study to get the data to be able to make this claim? Am I right?

  14. (thank you for reminding me about that picture that is - it's a funny pic)

  15. Re: Well done on Companies Are Using California Homes As Batteries To Power the Grid (qz.com) · · Score: 1

    I know. What a shameful state of affairs to be such a big ecomomy and having to play follow the leader. Chin up cobber.

  16. Re: Well done on Companies Are Using California Homes As Batteries To Power the Grid (qz.com) · · Score: 1

    No really, thank you.

  17. Don't stop there - it's to the tune of 50000 installations in one scheme and another 40000 installations in a second scheme.

    South Australia leads the way for the rest of the world. You're welcome, and please DO come here.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...

  18. Re:Twitter is not journalism on Scientists Prove That Truth is No Match For Fiction on Twitter (theguardian.com) · · Score: 1

    This is ripe for a more in depth analysis.

  19. Re:Good. Telling the truth about differences... on Labor Board Says Google Could Fire James Damore For Anti-Diversity Memo (theverge.com) · · Score: 3, Informative

    "The court" didn't rule on anything. A single person, Jayme Sophir, associate general counsel of the NLRB’s division of advice, decided in an analysis that “the statements regarding biological differences between the sexes were so harmful, discriminatory, and disruptive as to be unprotected.”

    Basically, without actually providing any counter-evidence to dispute any claims made by Davore, she dismisses his claims as discriminatory and of a sexually harassing nature.

    The letter proper is the following link.

    http://apps.nlrb.gov/link/docu...

  20. Re:Good. Telling the truth about differences... on Labor Board Says Google Could Fire James Damore For Anti-Diversity Memo (theverge.com) · · Score: 1

    And freedom of action is not free from consequence. I.e. Google's action may attract a negative consequence. The courts will decide.

  21. Re:Be a gross human being, get fired for it on Labor Board Says Google Could Fire James Damore For Anti-Diversity Memo (theverge.com) · · Score: 2

    I really dislike useless stereotypical descriptions.

    You can be conservative and want more government regulation. You can be progressive and want less government regulation. An individual can be conservative on some issues, progressive on others, and want more or less government regulation depending on the issue.

    People and their views are a little bit more nuanced than "left" and "right".

  22. Re: We need more guns on Las Vegas Shooting Leaves at Least 50 Dead, More Than 200 Wounded (wsj.com) · · Score: 1

    Lol, you're funny.

    How is accurately stating the purpose of a firearm and projectile absurd?

    How is accurately stating the reality of the situation not conducive to learning?

    Why is this accurate representation bothersome to you?

    If I'm incorrect (hint: I'm not) then please state the real purpose for a firearm and the real purpose for a projectile.

  23. Re: We need more guns on Las Vegas Shooting Leaves at Least 50 Dead, More Than 200 Wounded (wsj.com) · · Score: 1

    The truth hurts, but you'll get over it.

  24. Re:We need more guns on Las Vegas Shooting Leaves at Least 50 Dead, More Than 200 Wounded (wsj.com) · · Score: 1

    No. A firearm's purpose is to accelerate a projectile to high velocity. I'm not being facetious, this is the actual purpose. The projectile that is fired from the firearm has whatever designated purpose the operator decides it will be used for. So if the operator decides to shoot at a piece of paper or steel then that is the purpose of that projectile.

  25. Re: Intentionally poor headline on The iPhone Is Guaranteed To Last Only One Year, Apple Argues In Court (vice.com) · · Score: 1

    Adding to that, 2 years is the minimum period that they will begrudgingly voluntarily repair or replace phones (and other Apple products). Lawfully speaking they can be held to a much longer period than that (which they acknowledge).

    https://www.apple.com/au/legal...