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Cody Wilson, 3D-Printed Gun Pioneer, Arrested In Taiwan (reason.com)
Cody Wilson, maker of the first 3D-printed plastic gun, has been arrested in Taiwan. Long-time Slashdot reader SonicSpike quotes Reason:
Earlier this week, Texas police issued a warrant for his arrest. Wilson, they claimed, found a woman on sugardaddymeet.com, a website that requires all users to assert they are 18 or over, then met her and paid for sex with her. Police say the woman was actually 16, which made that act a violation of Texas penal code 22.011 (A)(2)(a), regarding sex with a minor, which is legally considered sexual assault regardless of consent or payment.
While Taiwan has no formal extradition treaty with the U.S., and Wilson was not said to have been doing anything directly criminal in Taiwan, the press there reports that he was arrested without incident because the U.S. had revoked his passport, making his mere presence in Taiwan illegal. (The U.S. government has the power to revoke the passports of people facing felony arrest warrants.) Wilson was then, according to The New York Times, "delivered...to the National Immigration Agency" in Taiwan. It is expected to deport him to the U.S. to face those charges, which carry a potential 2 to 20 years in prison and $10,000 fine.
A reporter for Ars Technica visited Wilson's home weapons printing company, and was told that "A management restructuring is coming." But they also contacted Adam Bhala Lough, who directed and wrote a documentary film about Wilson. Prior to Wilson's arrest, Lough argued that "Without Cody, it can't last. It's like Tesla and Elon Musk, you can't separate the two.
"If he comes home and faces the music, there is a chance Defense Distributed will survive because it is a totally independent company without a board or any regulatory body. And the buyers of these products -- not to generalize, but at least the ones I met while doing the documentary -- they won't care about buying a product from an [accused] pedophile. In fact they may be even more emboldened by the idea that Cody was 'set-up' or that it is a 'deep-state conspiracy' against him, even if (or when) he admits to it."
While Taiwan has no formal extradition treaty with the U.S., and Wilson was not said to have been doing anything directly criminal in Taiwan, the press there reports that he was arrested without incident because the U.S. had revoked his passport, making his mere presence in Taiwan illegal. (The U.S. government has the power to revoke the passports of people facing felony arrest warrants.) Wilson was then, according to The New York Times, "delivered...to the National Immigration Agency" in Taiwan. It is expected to deport him to the U.S. to face those charges, which carry a potential 2 to 20 years in prison and $10,000 fine.
A reporter for Ars Technica visited Wilson's home weapons printing company, and was told that "A management restructuring is coming." But they also contacted Adam Bhala Lough, who directed and wrote a documentary film about Wilson. Prior to Wilson's arrest, Lough argued that "Without Cody, it can't last. It's like Tesla and Elon Musk, you can't separate the two.
"If he comes home and faces the music, there is a chance Defense Distributed will survive because it is a totally independent company without a board or any regulatory body. And the buyers of these products -- not to generalize, but at least the ones I met while doing the documentary -- they won't care about buying a product from an [accused] pedophile. In fact they may be even more emboldened by the idea that Cody was 'set-up' or that it is a 'deep-state conspiracy' against him, even if (or when) he admits to it."
This absolutely doesn't smell right. And governments have been known for "setting examples" and taking out vendettas against those who would challenge them.
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Huh? Didn't he believe she was of legal age?
Yes, I believe the government in this case. This guy's a real prick, and it wouldn't surprise me one bit that he's a child fucker.
I don't respond to AC's.
"...not to generalize, but at least the ones I met while doing the documentary -- they won't care about buying a product from an [accused] pedophile."
16-year-olds are not children, they are sexually mature adolescents. Pedophilia is attraction to pre-pubescent children.
Just thought that might be relevant.
Any time a person in the government's crosshairs gets arrested on a sex crime or pedophilia charge, be VERY wary of believing it.
Anyone remember what happened to the IMF Director who was stupid enough to challenge the supremacy of the U.S. dollar?
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The first time I actually found a comment on slashdot that speaks the total truth thank you kind sir.
While the person the interviewed for this article is right in saying that Cody Wilson is the 'face' of his group, he was far from the driving force behind it. In fact Defense Distributed wasn't really even the driving force behind his recent judicial win against the DOJ. He had major backing from multiple pro second amendment groups, most notifiable the Second Amendment Foundation. Which is the same advocacy group that provided a lot of the legal aid legal muscle behind both the Heller and McDonald SCOTUS decisions. While the SAF certainly isn't going to front the bill for Cody's legal defense over this case, they're not likely to complete abandon the fight against the 21 totalitarian AGs that are trying to use a really shitty 10th amendment argument to shut down the distribution of those 3D printable firearms designs.
Looking at this case Cody Wilson himself is probably screwed, but his arguments for the first and second amendment aren't simple going to disappear with him.
First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
Second, Cody Wilson is not the father of 3D do it yourself gun projects.
Third what the hell is with you crazy people blaming a child???? I am now 74. Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a conservative nor libertarian would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child.
16 years old is certainly a child.
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will also be charged with aiding and abetting felony sexual assault/exploitation of a minor by lying about her age? If she was selling herself for illicit, underage sex, she hardly an innocent victim here.
Holding someone responsible for an inadvertent crime while also not holding their partner responsible for an advertant crime reeks.
Seriously, these pedo witch-hunts are getting to be a twice a day thing now.
Slow your roll son, you don't have to make yourself look like a screeching idiot every day.
FUCK NOISHKEL THE PEDO!!
Not really known to be totalitarian anti gun anti second amendment state.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
... plastic zip guns that are as dangerous to the wielder as anybody else. If this guy had a machine shop cranking out ARs, that would raise an eyebrow.
But if it's fun to think that, carry on.
CAPSLOCK is cruise control for COOL, amirite?
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I agree. I have no doubt the company will go on without him. There are more than enough capable people committed to the same goals as Cody who can step in. Several of them probably have the financial ability to buy out the whole company and make it their own.
I have a 3D printer. No way, no how is that the easiest way to produce a home made gun. Do people honestly think current 3D printer technology is like a Star Trek replicator?
I'd be much better of using my drill press, saw, dremel, files, etc. if I really wanted to make a gun.
Really well made guns are way cheaper and easier than a homebrew, and unfortunately getting them illegally is all too easy here in Chicago from what I can tell.
What am I missing in this debate about 3D printed guns?
Greed is the root of all evil.
No, someone IN THE STATE OF TEXAS of the age of 16 is not fully developed. FIFY.
In the United States, every state has it's own age of consent, with the most common being age 16. Yes, that's right, 16. Unfortunately for Cody, his love making was done in the state of Texas, where the legal age of consent is 18. If he had simply been living up north by one state, he might not be in such hot water.
This guy was a spoke in the wheel, putting out designs and easy-to-make guns, and so there are suddenly charges of having sex with a minor. What better way can you think of to discredit a person and tuck him away for a couple of years, or decades, to teach him a lesson?
It's strange how smart people who get in Big Gov's way have a tendency to suddenly do so blindingly stupid things that they get arrested quickly... Hmm!
Well I was referring to the 21 AGs that are trying to shut down his group with a new lawsuit specially. But that said the city of Austen has a reputation for being pretty 'blue', which is where this supposedly happened. So if you wanted to delve into conspiracy theory you could look it at that way.
Yeah post the same slanderous non-argument again. That'll convince people.
All his pics make him look gay.
Well to me I don't think this really has much to do with DD themselves, but reversing the Obama Administrations attempt to use ITAR to block the sharing of information on personal arms fabrication. When you really look at it objectively most of the design Wilson releases weren't really worth much. But the legal precedence he helped establish could very well be used by others to produce more serviceable weapons. Perhaps something like what you could see in those old 'Paladin Press' books that have been floating around for yeas. Or perhaps something like some of the guns that Royal Nonesuc, over on YouTube, was making.
Paying for sex with a woman who convincingly passes as an adult does not make a person a pedophile. A criminal, yes, but saying he is into prepubescent children because he bought sex from a person who could easily pass as a fully grown adult is just fraudulently incorrect.
a) How did Texas police KNOW that he went on any specific website (spying on his Internet traffic?)
b) How did Texas police KNOW that he asked for a 16yo girl (spying on his computer?)
c) How did Texas police KNOW that he visited anyone in Taiwan AND performed a potentially illegal act (spying on his person)
d) How did Texas police revoke a FEDERAL passport
e) How does Taiwan get to extradite him to the US if he currently has no formal documents that support his nationality
This smells on all sides. If I were Taiwan/China I'd ask some serious questions: why is US local and/or federal law enforcement conducting surveillance against anyone in our country?
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> Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
Devils advocate: /sarcasm As opposed to someone who is 18 years old?
Who determines what this "magic age" is? Because it certainly varies from female to female.
Define "fully developed". Do you mean biologically? Mentally? Emotionally? Because female teenagers mature faster then male teenagers.
In my limited experience I've known some teeagers who wise WELL beyond their years (behaved like a 40 year old), and known 30 year olds who behaved like dumb teenagers.
History and numerous civilizations has shown that "if she is old enough to bleed then she is old enough to breed" -- and while we can criticize this past mentality I'm not so sure there is an EXACT "magic" age that determines when a girl becomes a young woman and is fully cognant of the consequences of her choices. Hell, some *adults* aren't even!
This mentality of equating "16 years old female teenager is a child" depends LARGELY on social norms and subjective judgements. There is no "absolute" test you can do to determine if a female is a woman; it is a gradient.
That said, probably the *best* way to determine is to ask the father or mother: At what age of your daughter would you feel comfortable knowing she is having sex?
I'm willing to bet most would say late 20s.
First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
Second, Cody Wilson is not the father of 3D do it yourself gun projects.
Third what the hell is with you crazy people blaming a child???? I am now 74. Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a conservative nor libertarian would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child.
It has to be PROVEN, in COURT for any of that to stand. Being an asshole is ufortunately not a crime. Wouldn't at all surprise me if she or her family arranged it and notified the FBI. It's not a reflection on her or her family, it's Taiwan, a place where extorion is normal.
Pulling his passport is a completely dick move by the US Government unless they are now going to do that to every other criminal including their friends.
because a) their reasoning abilities aren't fully developed and b) they've got between 60-90 more years of life left and decisions made when you're 16 and unable to process the consequences will impact you for that time. It's got nothing to do with education and everything to do with our society progressing.
200 years ago we needed them cranking out babies ASAP because they were likely to die in their 30s. But even then folks knew there was something off with a man twice their age showing interest, but if the man had enough money folks looked the other way because of rampant poverty.
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Found the ad hominem fallacy.
But I guess it is easier to ignore the fact that the age of consent varies from state to state, country to country and try to trivialize the issue with a flippant sound bite then have a rational discussion if it is too low or too high.
What the hell is wrong with people? We hit puberty in our early teens. If by 'fully developed' we're referring to the ability to act mature and make good long-term decisions, many if not most people will never fully develop, no matter how hairy and wrinkled they get. Might as well treat all consensual sexual encounters as pedophilia.
How was it not shut down or at least sued due to that "backpage law"?
surprised? Victim shaming - it's the first goto play in both groups play book,
It happened in Texas. He left for Taiwan on a previously scheduled business trip after the encounter before the cops could arrest him. It seems to be unknown if he was aware the cops were after him when he got on the plane.
However, he missed his scheduled return flight, which seems mighty similar to avoiding prosecution.
The US Dept of State reserves the right to revoke AmCit passports for fugitives. They did so in this case, which dodges the entire extradition issue. Taiwan simply arrests him for illegal presence in the country and deports him.
Can burn. Also, some repub in Minnesota is accused of daughter molestation. And that trump advisor who gave his mistress a abortion drug.
is that you sprouting off again Elon?
Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
Britney told it best. :)
The (alleged) sex happened in Texas. He was traveling on business (after the (alleged) sex) when the State Dept revoked his passport. Taiwan is simply deporting a foreign national with revoked documentation.
What a loser. Italy has age of consent is 14 and heaven does not fall on earth there.
FUCK NOISHKEL THE PAEDO!!
Fuck off AC. No one gives a fuck about your feelings.
Yup. Slashdot..... News for beta males and halfwits. Now with NYT quotes. This site went to trash a number of years ago.
Its. "Spouting". Stupid beta male retard motherfucker.
A criminal conviction requires mens rea (criminal intent).
Hypothetically, if someone A meets someone B via a social website that claims to get verification that its members are 18 or over, and then has sex with them, how can that person be said to have the criminal intent to have sex with someone who is under 18?
Also, have there been any scientific studies of the average accuracy of age guessing, for various ages? If say, the average error is +/- 3 or 4 years, don't we again have a problem proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the person intended to have sex with an underage person, given that their initial assumption based on the website was that the person was at least 18?
Doesn't person A just need a decent lawyer? Or is that useless because we have a lynch-mob type of "justice" or a spy-agency-railroaded type of justice going on here?
I'll add that it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a liberal would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child. Basically, no one should victim-blame a child.
Cody Wilson belatedly realises he would have been better off spending his time making a 3D printed woman.
Thank you for your sacrafice.
I laughed so hard when I read this comment you are so right.
Highway cop for 30 years for the Department of Public Safety... The age of consent is 17... People can have great ideas and be terrible people. Christ how is this that hard to understand.
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I don't think you know what communism is either. You've just been reared on fear, misinformation and paranoia like all dumb Americans. What happened in the USSR f.ex. in the earlier parts of the 1900's was not communism, that was a failed experiment and crazy dictatorship rule pretending to be communism.
And of course America, planet earth's asshole, where capitalism is putting hard working people on the streets and money in the pockets of those who are already rich, have to defend capitalism at every opportunity with talk of the evil communists who want to see everyone suffer and the world burn.
Ever had a look on Wikipedia or some other place where you might learn something?
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Why do all the people who get the government's contempt suddenly turn out to be pedophiles?
"Shut the fuck up you dirty slut. If you're debating semantics between 16-18 and you're 16, shut the hell up. Have sex with guys your age, not fucking old men."
It is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a conservative nor libertarian would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child.
Dude, I get the sentiment, but let's not forget that conservatives have abandoned all pretence when it comes to morality: the ends justify the means for the new conservatives. They don't give a shit what the person's character is as long as they get what they want.
I mean, they elected a guy who admits to grabbing women's pussies whenever he wants to... all because he's going to stick it to the liberals.
I don't see the historic acceptability of marrying off young women as being exculpatory. For the vast majority of human history, the strong took what they wanted. That worked great for the strong, so it persisted, but I wouldn't claim that robbery should be tolerated because it was once the modus vivendi.
The guy is alleged to have solicited a 16-year old for sex. She wasn't legally old enough to consent to the sex or the contracted exchange. So no magic number is required.
No one gives a fuck about Brit S. she is a media tool and a talentless whore, with a damaged brain.
What has this website turned into? Submitters quoting NYT and posters linking to Brit Spears videos. Trash website.
I urge everyone to say fuck Slashdot. The original technology nerd base is long gone. Now its just another biased website full of butthurt cunts with nothing but complaints and no solution.
Slashdot....News for faux mentally challenged. Because its anothet place to post their irrational feelings..
You would know, huh? Off to the brig you go, 20 years hard labor each of you!
They aren't the same. The fact that you don't know that means either
1) You're stupid.
2) You've fallen for China's argument that Taiwan is part of China, which means go back to #1.
Taiwan can do whatever it wants with a foreign citizen. The fact that the US invalidated his passport means he shouldn't, in theory, be able to travel away from Taiwan, and indeed he didn't. It's not like you are implying, which apparently you think means "Wilson now isn't a citizen of any country so nobody can send him anywhere he doesn't want to go.' How on earth did you get 5 points for this? Rather than post I would just mod you down but Slashdot really stuck it to me the one time I did that and wouldn't give me mod points for a very long time, so I'd rather just post and say your post sucks and what you said is stupid.
First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
Second, Cody Wilson is not the father of 3D do it yourself gun projects.
Third what the hell is with you crazy people blaming a child???? I am now 74. Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a conservative nor libertarian would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child.
Biology disagrees with you. In literally every species on the planet that supports sex.
"The correct age" or "fully developed" is a meme spread by Christian nutjobs and aged, unkempt feminists that got dropped harder than a ton of bricks because they never look after themselves.
There is no such thing.
As soon as puberty happens, that's all that nature cares about. The fact we COULD do better than nature doesn't matter, nature says "you are capable, go bang like rabbits".
The pedoscare is a recent thing because of these nutjobs making it out like everyone is out to rape your "children". People are now so anti-social it hurts. (doubly so because of social media)
The body constantly goes through changes every 10-20 years, starting from 5-ish with the significant one that marks the change from toddler to child.
Synaptic pruning used to be thought to stop at 20s, but it doesn't. Just like many other things in the body.
The fact that you think a "child" is completely free of blame is hilarious in itself.
There's been countless examples over the years of "children" abusing their position in society for their own benefit. Including some doing outright criminal activity, blackmail-tier levels at that.
Hell, my own cousin did it, she stole money from people for years under threat of calling them a pedo. She was found out and subsequently ruined for it. She was even dumb enough to try steal money from a lawyer firm.
A 16 year is NOT a child. A child is 5-puberty. Period. Your abuse of the language is not a legal OR biological fact. Not even in America where this dumbass pedoscare started in the 80s from the nutjob Christian soccer-mom types.
You are indeed out of touch with reality. Teens are fucking scum these days. I'm only 31, but even I know how shitty teens can be. Teens might have been more decent back in your day, but those days are long gone. (they weren't, for the most part they were objectively worse, just not as corrupt)
Even when I was a teen, they were scummy. But these days it is so much worse. Social media has screwed our teenagers up so badly. They are manipulative as fuck.
Not all of them, but a significant percentage abuse their position in society and how "protected" they are.
It's vile.
Also, Texas and majority of America needs to learn what the fuck a pedo is.
Stop abusing well-defined terms that are agreed upon by most of the world.
This is another thing the nutjob Christians done, make pedo out to be anything pre-age of consent, or more recently the dumb "age of majority" bullshit.
All because they couldn't get sex before marriage banned, so spread fear in to the minds of teens everywhere to stop them having sex instead.
There is no single country on the planet that agrees with "age of consent" age and the reasons for picking that age. It's a flawed concept.
This is why the Chronophilia laws should be introduced instead and eliminate pretty much all the grey areas and only punish the REAL pedos and abusers.
The dissolution of the term pedo has made it harder to go after the actual pedos, it has bogged the courts down with stupid trivial shit and ruined peoples lives for consensual relationships.
A 16 and 19 year old fucking? Hardly abusive. Go away Texas, you're drunk.
Also, don't even pull that "blah blah blah 16 years olds are too dumb to consent" bullshit.
Back when I was 14, I remember picking my entire future in life. Seems pretty damn important to me. But apparently I
> Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
What about 17?
Should a 17 year be banned from federal positions for life due to an an alleged wrestling match with a female peer?
1. I don't think you realize what liberalism has morphed into the new communism. it is not the liberalism of decades past. it does not stand for liberty.
2. No one blamed the 'child' here. If it was consensual, then no, she made her choice and he made his. It's the law that was broken. A 16 year old is sexually mature.
3. this is not a case of sexual abuse of children.
I think he means the suspicious part is that she was underaged. There is a vast difference between solicitation and statutory rape. A solicitation charge will generally result in a fine or a very short stint in jail. Stat. rape is a felony and you will probably wind up in actual prison (not merely jail).
I think the idea seems plausible at least in part because the website supposedly screens everyone to be over 18. However, I really doubt they are trying that hard.
On the other hand, the setup theory implies an adversary that has access to a trustworthy minor willing to bang strangers for money/the cause. This seems a little too much like the plot of a John Grisham novel to me. Not that it's impossible, just that someone will need to show some real evidence before I'll pay much attention.
Gee, someone dumb enough to fight another man's rich war pretends that this gives him a special privilege of understanding systems of government and the rest of the civilians are unable to understand this insight. Maybe you study history to understand WHY "The pen is mightier than the sword."
All you have done is traded one form of propaganda for another. But keep trying to justify that your immoral killing and archaic violence "magically" gives you a leg up to understand morality. What a fucking hypocrite.
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> First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
The country didn't draft you to understand politics, or to gatekeep on the ability of others to understand politics. The country drafted you to shoot who it wanted you to shoot. Don't get confused on that point.
I forgot that I read that, dammit. Thanks.
But the trip had already been scheduled.
I was just reminded that he WAS told by a friend of the victim that the police were looking for him.
Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
By what criterion? In history, countries had regents of that age - see e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... - and quite obviously a lot of humans have sex at that age, also in current time - see e.g. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/p...
It's an obvious setup.
>First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict
Cody Wilson may be a kiddie fucker, but at least he's not a baby murderer like you. Fuck off.
Might as well treat all consensual sexual encounters as pedophilia.
That's the point of so many laws, many of them conflicting. So many Federal laws alone that they've been unable to count them. It's been said that the average person commits three felonies a day..
"You're all criminals, but we'll generously choose to not prosecute you for now, as long as you stay in line, keep your mouth shut, and obey."
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Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
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> First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
Same goes for you. You don't even understand what MIGHT give you some standing to preach to someone else about their ignorance of communism.
This is ironic because I was just discussing this very topic with an actual ex-Soviet today.
The Soviets didn't even bother with the pretense of a legit looking prosecution. The coffee klatch at your office could rat you out and get you sent to a gulag.
I bet you will look at them differently on Monday.
A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
It sounds like he is guilty of having sex with an under-age minor.
However if he really thought she was 18, then he's not a pedophile.
That's an important distinction in terms of others doing business with someone - many people would be horrified at having anything to do with a true pedophile, while being OK with someone that had questionable but legal sexual tastes otherwise. Just paying for sex is a whole different kind of deal morally speaking.
Even if it was not a setup, he was pretty stupid to do anything even close to illegal when it was very probable everything he did was being tracked by the government (probably more than one).
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How can he be trolling for a child when the site explicitly says 18+ is enforced to be a member?
It doesn't matter what they look like. I have seen many 18 year old women that look younger than they are. How should he be considered a nasty old man when he went out of his way to use a site that guaranteed him the girls were legal?
This sounds like a solid government setup. They had to find a state that had an older consent age, hook him up with an undercover agent that looks too young, false documents, and then they will use a grand jury instead of a normal court so he doesn't get the full legal protection of the courts. Looks and sounds like a setup.
Its. "Spouting". Stupid beta male retard motherfucker.
Hey - he's an amoeba, you insensitive clod!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
He paid her $500 for sex. That is prostitution of a child. Pretty twisted.
More importantly, he is 30. WTF is he doing with something that he THOUGHT was barely legal? 12 years difference at age 60 (i.e. going with a 48 y.o) is not a big deal. BUT the development of a 30 vs a supposed 17 y.o. (which is what she was claiming and what is 'legal' in Tx) is a HUGE gap.
In Colorado, IIRC, the legal age is 18, EXCEPT that if they are within 5 years of each other, than, it is something like 14. The idea being that most of those situations they knew each other in school. Makes sense.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
> Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
Devils advocate: /sarcasm As opposed to someone who is 18 years old?
Who determines what this "magic age" is?
Young people will become mature at the age they are allowed to become mature. My grandparents were married at 13. My wife and I married shortly after she turned 18. Today, marriage is pressing the limits of female fertility.
The whole concept of teenagers was an invention. http://www.ushistory.org/us/46... It did make sense, but introduced a lot of complexities. Whereas once the evolution and survival of the species provided puberty and adulthood in the early teens, we sensibly stretched it some to allow for better education.
Now however, there are people who are agitating for adulthood to occur in the early 30s. 35 years old is considered a "young adult". I even saw a Ted talk by a woman claiming that women were biologically designed to start having children after 35 years old. Ironically, many women are freezing theieggs and have to go through fertility treatments at this age, and age when our ancestors were dying off.
My own thoughts on the matter is if the law says you don't boink a woman until after she is 100 years old, then you don't boink any women under 100.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The arrest warrant was issued by Texas.
Not really known to be totalitarian anti gun anti second amendment state.
As I suspect you actually understand, Texas isn't even close to a monoculture. The affidavit leading to the arrest warrant was issued by the police department of the well-known liberal hotbed of Austin. The application for warrant was signed by magistrate judge Tamara Needles, a Democrat.
Other than all that, spot on.
Cody Wilson hasn't napalmed "friendly" Gook villages with the children still in them. He hasn't raped and murdered innocents at My Lai. He hasn't killed 2 million Vietnamese. He hasn't violently sought regime change in foreign countries to support an imperialist agenda.
This fucking criminal has made love not war. What would he know about communism? Who actually fucking cares.
I don't see the historic acceptability of marrying off young women as being exculpatory.
A lot of men are not seeing the acceptability of marrying a woman at any age now.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Should a 17 year be banned from federal positions for life due to an an alleged wrestling match with a female peer?
Only if male. If female, it was her choice.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
It's okay though, Texas is a single party consent state. /sarc
It's true. libertarians have childish ideas, so it's only natural for them to prefer the company of children. It also helps in that children don't know that they're lousy at sex.
He thought she was 17 (not 18)
And where did you read that? From TFA:
Wilson, they claimed, found a woman on sugardaddymeet.com, a website that requires all users to assert they are 18 or over,
Sorry, but he is a pedophile.
Definition of Pedophilia ...
specifically : a psychiatric disorder in which an adult has sexual fantasies about or engages in sexual acts with a prepubescent child
In what way was she "prepubescent" even at 17??
You might find the age difference too much for your modern sensibilities. But in no way was he anywhere close to actually pedophilia, which is a completely different matter than having sex with someone who is biologically not a child.
It's really a shame when someone one Slashdot cannot even comprehend basic biology.... makes it really hard to have any kind of rational discussion when people do not understand simple definitions or scientific fact.
Your post is useful in understanding that some people may mistakenly see him as a pedophile going forward though. I'm sure that's the impression they wanted to give so bravo for playing the role well.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sixteen is the age of consent in much of the US and most of Europe.
If she is not legally competent, obviously we can't blame her. In that case, I would blame her legal guardians for letting her post a profile on a site for prostitutes and then meeting a client; her guardians should certainly face serious penalties, possibly jail.
Of course, at this point, we don't know whether there even was any sex.
I'll add that it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a liberal would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child. Basically, no one should victim-blame a child.
You need to do some web research on Asia Argento. Anthony Bourdain's ex girlfriend, and one of the founders of the #metoo movement.
She carried on an affair with an underage male - indeed getting nude images of him starting when he was 12. First she denied it, then the pictures of her enjoying a nice post priandal nsp with the boy surfaced. Then she claimed the child forced himself on her. Then after paying the child a settlement, she claimed that Bourdain forced her ot pay the settlement. Then she decided to peep for her very own, the last payment of the settlement provided by her now dead boyfriend Bourdain.
Apparently in the #metoo world, everyone is guity, including little boys, and generous boyfriends who pay off your debts even when you are a disgusting pedophile utter trampslut.
And a lot of women support her. They too are more than happy to victim blame, as long as it is the dreaded male of the species. No lower age limit.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
TBF the female misrepresented her age.
She is taking money for sex so she is a prostitute regardless of age and should be charged with child related sex crimes as well.
They are both victims, yet at the time they both got what they wanted from each other. Either charge both or don't charge either of them. It's very hard to tell 16 from 18 when they give teens boobjobs and facial reconstruction so they can go find a sugar daddy...
The modern world has made an essential survival-fostering act into a legal minefield. And it is worse for men.
It does not matter how much proof you are given that the woman is an adult, including any amount of fake IDs, certification, etc. If she is a day too young, you are going to jail for sex with a minor, and that's it.
But even outside of that, a woman can give consent and then accuse you of rape after the fact, and land your ass in jail with nothing more than her word as evidence. Hell, you don't even need to have sex with her, as happened in Europe not too long ago: a serial rape accuser would pick innocent men that she saw at a bar, never even so much as speak to them, and accuse them of having raped her after they left the bar, and got them convicted. It wasn't until she had done this again and again that the pattern was figured out and the innocent men were then released from prison. I tried to find the link to the story but the Internet seems to have forgotten it. I found this one, though.
Setting aside the topic of rape, there is also the issue of mandatory child support payments. If a man consents to sex, he consents to fatherhood, as he has no option to abort or submit the child for adoption. It's a hook on a string that costs him a huge chunk of his income for the next 18 years! And, as famously happened in Arizona, men are on the hook for that even if they were boys when it happened, and were statutorily raped by the woman in question.
The current state of things is quite unfair, and one would be wise to avoid sex as much as possible.
"My own thoughts on the matter is if the law says you don't boink a woman until after she is 100 years old, then you don't boink any women under 100."
What an extreme statement.
So just to prove how much of a bootlicker you are you would be willfully celibate for life? And watch everyone die while the brave go to jail for love?
I'd break the hell out of that law. The survival of the human race would literally depend on people breaking that law. Most of us don't make it to 100 and nobody who does is female and fertile.
Is that you Elon?
The government made him have sex with an underaged girl?
Strat, it was a Texas law that got Cody Wilson in trouble. Conservative, freedom-loving, libertarian, come-and-take-it Texas. I know you have an axe to grind, but this wasn't the federal government to blame.
When someone breaks a state law and then flees, the state sends a request to the state department to extradite (or in cases where the accused has skeedaddled to a country without extradition, yank his passport). The federal government has no choice in this matter. The State of Texas made the decision to charge, and to arrest, and they will be the ones prosecuting.
You are welcome on my lawn.
>Lie about age when signing up to prostitution website
>Lie about age to man to get money and sex
>Willingly have sex
>Willingly take money for that sex
>Admit to doing all of this, WILLINGLY
>Claim this was "assault"
>People actually take your side
THE ABSOLUTE STATE
Probably because she lied about her age to the website, and to the man in question.
I went to school with girls who were pregnant at 13. Seems some 13 year old's can be fully developed. Not justifying it but that's just nature.
Strat, it was a Texas law that got Cody Wilson in trouble. Conservative, freedom-loving, libertarian, come-and-take-it Texas. I know you have an axe to grind, but this wasn't the federal government to blame.
That'[s why I'm a small-"L" libertarian, and not a Christian-Right conservative. I know it was Texas State law, not Federal law. That was not the point and you well know it. Don't be deliberately obtuse.
The point was that this was a use of selective enforcement at the very least, and quite likely judging from past government behaviors, that it was a deliberate, orchestrated setup from the beginning to take down someone they considered a "problem".
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
You really have no idea at all do you.
He should wait until she is 18 years-old then sue her for inciting a crime. At the moment, he is screwed.
Your think the Republican leaning conservative law enforcement authorities in the rest of Texas are approving of his printed guns, so they'd let his child prostitution pass?
If they don't convicted him on the sexual assault they will definitely can victim on felony evasion. I know it's hard to believe but white people also are held to the same standard when it comes to evading the po-po
So why isn't the website in trouble then? Because it's legal.
Let me be 100% clear here. I commended Cody strongly on his fervent pursuit of his beliefs. One of the lead engineers at DD was a coworker or mine.
But damn it. He fucked up. Plain and simple. There's no excuse for it. It doesn't invalidate what he stood for, but him personally.. he's done. He knows it. We know it.
The worst part is everyone who is against him will slowly try to use this terrible transgression as a way to invalidate every belief he's ever espoused.
I even saw a Ted talk by a woman claiming that women were biologically designed to start having children after 35 years old.
Not gonna believe that extraordinary claim without some evidence. Please link to this alleged Ted.
in this context. It means developed at or near the full extent of the individual. It doesn't mean turning into Albert Einstein or something.
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You're funny, liberalism moved into the new communism? Sure keep telling yourself that and listen to those who spout that. Liberalism hasn't change, now if people's changed then you call them by the appropriate ism. You listened to people who tell you any that isn't "us" is automatically communist.
That is inherently not true, and inherently very dangerous thought.
First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
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Being a Viet Nam veteran only defines you as a chump who was too stupid to know Viet Nam was bullshit that smart people avoided by any means necessary. Or maybe you believe that Viet Nam attacked the US ?
You are not qualified to comment on political ideologies.
You need to shut your trap and go play some bingo, fuck stick.
The /. crowd is all in on Cody and would give him a pass if he screwed a 5 year old. I am so disappointed with nerds these days.
Well interestingly, here is a case of a New Yorker jailed for 35 years for sex with a 16 year old Australian where it would not have been an offense in Sydney. His mistake was to fly her to him and not go visit her. (Well, one of his mistakes perhaps.)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/201...
Did they meet you while doing the documentary?
Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
Are you arguing for raising the age of consent to something like 25? Because that's the age by which most experts agree that the brain is fully developed.
From the very start it was obvious that his aim was to get 3D printing regulated.
Thank you for posting a long crazy rant about underage sex to a technically oriented web board.
What? Having sex at the age of consent makes you a pedophile? Wow, go back to North Korea or whatever totalitarian, bigoted shithole you came form.
Anonymous coward raped my neighbor's goats! #GoatsToo
I'm a complete CAD/CAM, or whatever is being used now-a-days, idiot and I am 100% confident I could design a plastic pistol to be made on a 3d printer.
Mr design my not be pretty but there is zero reason I could not make one.
And I believe a vast majority of any competent people capable of some design could do the same.
So, what is the big deal? It certainly isn't a challenge...
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I cannot wait for them to swing by the noose.
Found the statist!
"I even saw a Ted talk by a woman claiming that women were biologically designed to start having children after 35 years old"
That's crazy talk.
At the age of 31, 50% of women are subfertile!
Between the ages of 30 and 40, live birth rates from a conception almost halves!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
"The only ones that think it are, are oooh, whadda ya know, religious nuts"
Nice stereotyping.
Do you have evidence for any of the claims you have made?
This bastard did the crime so he owes the time and bears just punishment.
"You are not qualified to comment on political ideologies"
And you are? If you are capable of expressing your opinion then you are qualified to talk politics.
Telling people to shut up is not an argument.
Because 3d printing threatens gun manufactures, not because it threatens 2A?
History? Logic? HAHAHAH 2nd Amendment above ALL! #MAGA
it gives time enough to get out of high school, to be sure you've had a chance at an education and maybe seen a future for yourself. Too many 16 year olds are convinced the entire world's out to get them and there's no hope for the future. It makes them vulnerable. The extra two years gives them some time to think about their future before we open them up to sex, drugs (tobacco at least) and war.
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is very, very pro-gun. He hasn't inconvenienced anyone. If anything the current ruling party is happy to have him. And as has been pointed out elsewhere on this forum he's being charged in Texas. Assange was almost certainly set up, but it's likely that Wilson got popped because he want to Taiwan in search of underage prostitutes and, well Taiwan and much of Asia is trying to shake the whole "sex tourism" thing and become a more family friendly tourist destination. Families spend a heck of a lot more money on Holiday than single dudes looking for cheap sex...
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Get 'em while you can teach 'em right! #MAGA
OK, I didn't say anything about that, but, no, it isn't:
Texas law permits individuals who have reached the age of majority (18) to get married without parental consent. However, those 14 and older may get married with the consent of their parents or legal guardians. In those instances, consent must be given within 30 days prior to applying for a marriage license.
-https://statelaws.findlaw.com/texas-law/texas-marriage-age-requirements-laws.html
So, 14 with parents' consent or 18 without. Not 16.
That's irrelevant, though, because they didn't get married. They had sex.
The Texas Age of Consent is 17 years old. In the United States, the age of consent is the minimum age at which an individual is considered legally old enough to consent to participation in sexual activity. Individuals aged 16 or younger in Texas are not legally able to consent to sexual activity, and such activity may result in prosecution for statutory rape.
-https://www.ageofconsent.net/states/texas
There are (some) defenses available if the older party is not more than three years older than the minor, but this guy's more than three years older than her.
It's not clear to me that he was looking for a minor based on the way they hooked up. But if he had sex with a 16 year old, then he's suspicious. Maybe she really does look older. Or maybe he was really happy to hit a high-schooler.
I don't think we can know if he's a pedophile or not with the information we have.
But this is where your logic breaks down. Why would the attorney general of the state of Texas think Cody Wilson was a problem? Why would they target him.
Because the Texas AG first off likely had little to do with a local prosecutor's decision to prosecute, and that local prosecutor likely had significant pressure applied by the Federal government and many others who don't want to see the Liberator 3D printer files be posted to the internet, and the prosecutor may even be a Democrat, IDK. Heck, he may have simply received an "anonymous tip" from an FBI agent and was just doing his job. Also, since this "technically" is not about the 2A, not sure how that would matter legally to the State AG.
I would not be surprised to find out that the FBI set him up with this girl and tipped off local law enforcement precisely to destroy Wilson.
These are no Boy Scouts we're dealing with in government in either Party. They play as dirty as they think they can get away with, whether (R) or (D). Again, another reason why I'm not a Republican or a Democrat. The "establishment" of both sides are thoroughly corrupt.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
Perhaps a misinterpretation of this one which claims that "female fertility peaks at age 28, and things get tricky after age 35"?
as Randle McMurphy: "Doc, she was 15 years old going on 35. She told me she was 18."
I guess we won't be hearing much about 3D printed guns any more.
Yes, and the moon landing was staged and pizzagate is real. And the FBI mind-controlled Cody Wilson to go to a website that specializes in extra-young prostitutes just so they could set him up.
Follow the white rabbit, Strat.
You are welcome on my lawn.
That dirt little girl solicited this man for sex, and took his money after she did her dirty little deed.
All he did was go looking for sex. Who's the pervert that matched this fine upstanding gentleman with such a devious little underage succubus instead of the dirty hooker he thought he was buying?
You're getting warmer. Follow that path of logic and soon, you will learn that the entire 2A advocacy movement exists only to benefit the arms manufacturers, not to protect anyone's rights or safety. In fact, until recently the National Rifle Association was mainly concerned with firearms safety and even supported gun control. Now, they're just using you.
You are welcome on my lawn.
She engaged in fraud by signing up on a site which was limited to 18 years or older. What type of id requirements do you propose before allowing a sex act to continue? If fake ids can fool people who look at them daily when selling alcohol and fake passports can fool border agents, what training should all males be required to attend so they can determine if someone is lying about their age?
If I give you poison and tell you it's a new fruit drunk, I murdered you. Your argument is since you could have had the drink chemically tested before you drank it then that makes it a suicide instead of a murder. That's bullshit. Sex under false pretenses is rape. She created the false pretense. She rapped him, not the other way around. I understand the no tolerances laws don't say that, but morally that's what happened. He's the victim here.
Cody was lied to by this girl, his financial gift after the fact (not a pre-negotiated payment for sex or he would absolutely been charged with prostitution too) did not constitute prostitution as it was not a payment for sex as implied by the article here, and its not like he could have reasonably been able to tell the difference between a 16 almost 17 year old and an 18 year old. The entire idea that prosecuting people for these crimes is insane particularly after one realizes that 2/3rds of these sorts of cases involving sex and a minor involve consensual sex between people of similar ages and that the majority of people on sex offender lists have created no genuine victims. That is nobody is harmed. Pissing in a garbage can at 2am after you get out of a bar that happens to be near a playground is just one example of a crime they consider a sex crime and will get you on the sex offender list. Other crimes include minors sending significant others naked pictures of each other. That is child porn. Having sex with a 16 year old when you are 18 or 19 is another sort of situation either because you were lied to or because you were in a real relationship.
There was this crazy "Todd and Claire" site that tried to frame Julian as a pedo, too. Never mind he has been locked up in an embassy for years under police surveillance.
They quietly melted away once they were exposed.
"buying an underage prostitute on a website that specializes in very young girls and then sexually assaulting her"
Ratzo you dirty dishonorable old lech, you know there's zero truth in your intentional mischaracterization of this transparent setup.
Have you even stopped raping your boyfriend yet?
Whether states should be allowed to make their own laws? Fucking moron, read the Constitution. The question is upside-down. Fucking fascist moron.
It's got to be a cliche by now.
My ism, it's full of beliefs.
Italy has age of consent is 14 and heaven does not fall on earth there.
That's funny, I had always thought it did.
A golden rule is not to do two dodgy things at the same time. Being behind 3-D printed guns, controversial, a current big issue, and the legality of which is still in a state of flux is one dodgy thing, and having sex with a girl who is underage in at least one of the jurisdictions involved is another dodgy thing. Either one draws adverse attention to and weakens your case with the other.
As he wanted to promote printed guns with a high public profile he should stayed squeaky clean in every other respect. It's the price of "enjoying" a high public profile. No sympathy.
it's Taiwan, a place where extorion is normal.
Total bullshit, Taiwan is a modern democracy, with separation of powers, checks and balances and what not.
Thanks for the reference. I hadn't heard that the women decided they did want charges laid. Given that, I agree, it doesn't sound so suspicious.
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All the above countries are *LAPDOGS* to Uncle Sam, and they will do anything Uncle Sam wants them to do.
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And the FBI mind-controlled Cody Wilson to go to a website that specializes in extra-young prostitutes just so they could set him up.
Oh come on, everyone knows the FBI doesn't run the mind control satellites. And besides this sort of thing is within the purview of what they put in chemtrails not satellites. I think it was a covert op by the NOAA.
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Wtf? Being attracted to a female with a body capable of bearing a child is not paedophilia.
Society determines an arbitrary cut-off at which women are considered old enough to consent to sex. That cut-off varies by jurisdiction but doesn't change the fact that men are attracted to the fully physically developed female form.
s not like he could have reasonably been able to tell the difference between a 16 almost 17 year old and an 18 year old
Which is why if she looks under 25 you make absolutely fucking certain you know her age before sticking your dick in her.
Yeah, it means you sometimes wont get to fuck the hottest 19 year old on the planet. It also means you wont get arrested in Taiwan and face 10 years in prison.
A 16 year old voluntarily prostituting herself is not a child.
The whole concept of teenagers was an invention. http://www.ushistory.org/us/46...
No, it's not. I take your article and raise you "Northanger Abbey", a book published in 1817 which more or less has the plot (heavily summarised) "teenagers are a bit silly". Now how on earth could that be a thing if teenagers didn't even exist then?
Maybe the word teenager wasn't used, but adolescents exist, always have and always will. There are even scientifically measurable brain changes that happen during adolescence.
It's not limited to humans either. You can see the behaviour easily in social animals as well.
Who determines what this "magic age" is?
Welcome to the real world. The real world is messy and fully of grey areas requiring a mixture of poorly applied rules and actual judgement. For example in this case it's often very clear when things are far over one side of the line. 5 years old? Definitely not ok. 50 years old? Definitely OK. Logarithmically interpolate (~16) and you run right into the middle of a grey area.
It's stark but ultimately it's like everything else. There's always a continum between "definitely fine" and "fuck no" and no matter where you draw the line problems abound. But if you don't draw the line anywhere at all you have even worse problems.
My own thoughts on the matter is if the law says you don't boink a woman until after she is 100 years old, then you don't boink any women under 100.
If the law says something stupid it won't be obeyed and nor should it.
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"Progressives" are the new right-wing religious nutjobs.
The pattern fits. Heck he probably gave her extra money to go to the police so he could stand up and say he should have a right to have sex with someone who is 16. If it isn't just a vigilante set up, this could very well be another grand standing move.
Yeah, that's the thing about Ted Talks - they're just people flapping their mouths. They were intended to be talks by people who know deeply the content that they wish to relate to others in an informative manner. But, sometimes, some people who clearly don't understand things as much as they think they do slide through, often for current political reasons. There's more than one Ted talk I've stopped watching within a minute. There's a reason the phrase "knows enough to be dangerous" exists.
Because the Texas AG first off likely had little to do with a local prosecutor's decision to prosecute, and that local prosecutor likely had significant pressure applied by the Federal government and many others who don't want to see the Liberator 3D printer files be posted to the internet, and the prosecutor may even be a Democrat, IDK. Heck, he may have simply received an "anonymous tip" from an FBI agent and was just doing his job.
There is also the possibility that the local prosecutor found out about an alleged rape and is doing his duty, just like he or she would do in any other case of alleged rape.
Sex is the oldest currency known to man. I don't think the #metoo movement is going to change that.
Who determines what this "magic age" is? Because it certainly varies from female to female
In this case, the law makers of Texas decided. But that kind of thing is hard to understand for some slash dotters. The law of Texas is that the "magic age" is 18 for all females in Texas, except for someone who is mentally disabled and will never be able to consent.
By what criterion?
By the criterion that that's what the law in the State of Texas says. One simple rule that applies to everyone in the state of Texas.
Probably because she lied about her age to the website, and to the man in question.
Sex with an underage person is one crime where only the facts count - what her actual age was at the time. What the man thought what her age was, or what she told him what the age was, doesn't matter. You think that's unfair? Maybe you're right. But that's what the law says.
Victim-blaming of someone who (presumably) signed up on this website, made a false assertion that she was over 18, etc?
This isn't victim-blaming. This is an example of what's wrong with statuatory rape and age of consent laws. Someone who has no intent to violate them may end up doing so, and of course while intent to commit a crime is something that must be proven most of the time, for some reason we let legislatures get away with barring that in laws like this. They don't have to prove you meant to do anything.
So you can have an older-looking underage girl who knows exactly what she's doing literally tell you she's 18 or 19 or whatever, be totally lying about it, and you can STILL go to jail for this.
What, exactly, is someone supposed to do? Check ID when you meet? That's socially ridiculous. There have been people (let's get real here, men) whose lives have been destroyed by taking a girl home who they met drinking at a club, where any reasonable person would believe that the girl is old enough to drink by her mere presence in the establishment and that she was getting served alcohol.
These laws are never used to protect minors because in instances of coercion or forced prostitution or whatever there are other laws being broken.
What these laws are typically used for is to placate parents outraged that their little angel might want to have sex, and to allow them to ruin peoples' lives. Then you have situations like this, where the state is looking for something, anything, to get someone who annoys them and they either set this up, or they just got lucky in an illegal fishing expedition.
It's time to declare strict liability crime laws like this unconstitutional and implement saner laws in their place.
She signed up on the site, she lied about her age, she responded to him, and she agreed to have sex for money.
Where is the prostitution charge against her?
We charge teenagers for sexting.
Selective prosecution is illegal, either enforce your laws for everyone or for no one.
Prostitution is a misdemeanor in Texas, and because she's below the age of consent and couldn't legally be having sex for free or for money she couldn't be a prostitute. Instead she was allegedly raped by a very generous rapist.
Therein lies the crux of the issue. Your question about one being comfortable about one's daughter having sex is typical. This is the faulty reasoning that lots of people share, and lawmakers are no exception here. The thing that consent age laws are primarily meant to protect - beyond the safety of those below the *puberty* age - is the comfort of people who are not party to the underlying act. (Of course, they won't say that outright, and would cite all kinds of bullshit reasons, mostly circular in nature, none of which is THE thing that really makes them angry when thinking about an adult having sex with a person who is in the puberty age but under the "legal" age.)
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Thank you for your name calling and zero contribution to the debate AC.
"Capable of bearing a child" isn't a good cutoff point for pedophilia. A pedo just got sentenced this week for impregnating a 10-year-old https://www.washingtonpost.com... and as I recall some 5-year-old gave birth in Peru... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
If you want to be seen, stand up. If you want to be heard, speak up. If you want to be respected, sit down and shut up.
> Yeah, that's the thing about Ted Talks - they're just people flapping their mouths.
That would probably be TEDx talks.
> They were intended to be talks by people who know deeply the content that they wish to relate to others in an informative manner.
Actual TED talks are/were like that. A chance to listen to an established expert speak.
> But, sometimes, some people who clearly don't understand things as much as they think they do slide through, often for current political reasons.
All they have to do is pay the fee to TEDx, and you can put on any old yokel you want. TEDx is basically like having a cable access show!
Unfortunately for Cody, his love making was done in the state of Texas, where the legal age of consent is 18. If he had simply been living up north by one state, he might not be in such hot water.
Incorrect. Regardless of the age of consent, BUYING sex from someone under 18 is generally very illegal.
No, that was the dictionary definition of Communism. Stop deflecting.
It's rape. Domination through rape. That simple.
They'll get their due in prison. Sooner or later, they'll die of a horrible "accident"
If the law says something stupid it won't be obeyed and nor should it.
It's not, which is how you end up with 19 year old "sex offenders" with distraught 16 year old girlfriends.
or in this case the Texans. America is a Democracy.
For me the question is, "At what age of your daughter would you feel comfortable knowing she is having sex with someone older than her". Two 16 year olds in the back seat is legal. Swap out one of the 16 year olds for a 32 year old and Houston, we've got a problem...
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Welcome to 2018, where not just the "libertarian" but also the "conservative" tent is mostly populated by people with much worse ideologies making use of a convenient and publicly palatable hiding place, and the few remaining conservatives and libertarians are too afraid of political irrelevance to do anything but welcome them.
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Well duh, she didn't report him, the authorities were watching him closely, looking to bust him because he pissed them off, and all they needed to do was threaten her with a whiff of prostitution charges to get some cooperation. Probably had his phone/internet/computer illegally tapped and were following him too until did something stupid and/or fell into a trap. That would be illegal though, so I'm sure the story will be the only one that doesn't involve answer questions about illegal searches "the hotel staff suspected something suspicious and called the police". Yea sure, it could be that the hotel staff really did suspect something and report it. He was dumb to put himself in that situation to begin with. He should have followed the old adage "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you" and avoided the situation to begin with and/or found an older woman (which frankly, would probably end up with a different set of charges) and/or covered his tracks.
While your proposal is interesting (do you have a newsletter to which I can subscribe?)...
Would the (current) US President be a legal adult under this standard?
It's not, which is how you end up with 19 year old "sex offenders" with distraught 16 year old girlfriends.
Oh it gets stupider than that. You can get two distraught 16 year olds both charged with sex offences.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
"My own thoughts on the matter is if the law says you don't boink a woman until after she is 100 years old, then you don't boink any women under 100."
What an extreme statement.
Whoooshies.
So just to prove how much of a bootlicker you are you would be willfully celibate for life? And watch everyone die while the brave go to jail for love?
You see, dear Coward, my point was not that we should have such laws, but that laws are laws. If the law says I do not fuck 14 year olds, or 16 year olds, or anyone under 18, then I won't. I have no intrinsic need or wish to fuck 14 year old women. Regardless of what Republican Senate candidates from Alabama think.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
"I even saw a Ted talk by a woman claiming that women were biologically designed to start having children after 35 years old"
That's crazy talk.
At the age of 31, 50% of women are subfertile!
Between the ages of 30 and 40, live birth rates from a conception almost halves!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
I consider it just some of the feelgood lies told to women. For some reason, the dictates of modern feminism demand starting a career right out of college, then working for a decade, then finding mister right, and having children.
My wife and I had decided we were going to have one child, and she looked at the science, and decided she wasn't going to have a child any time after 25. So we had a child young, and after he was in preschool, she embarked on her career. With a vengeance. Ended up the number two position in her company - and paid more than the owner.
Now many of these professional ladies end up finding out the hard way that if they decide that they are going to start the man-hunt when they are 35, their plan tends to fall apart. Men that age tend toward not wanting to get married, either by being divorced at a younger age, and either being considered unfit by virtue of not having enough financial resources, or the 35 year old men that they consider acceptable - looks, height, financial level - just are not interested in marrying a woman who is demanding that they start fertility work immediately.
So these poor successful women start freaking out and try to extend theit fertility by freezing eggs in the hope of meeting mister right at 40 or even later.
Which has even less of a chance of success. Fertility with unfrozen eggs isn't all that great, and not many men want to become fathers in their 40's.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
If this story is in fact legit, shouldn't the girl be the one going to jail? She lied about her age, signed up for a site where you hook up with people, then cried because somebody chose to hook up with her... and now the guy - who was using the service legally - is getting in shit?
This entire story stinks of victim blaming and bullshit.
Or a single 16 year old charged with possession of child pornography and labeled as a sex offender for life for having nude pictures of himself on his phone.
Clamping a hand over a girl's mouth and holding her down isn't wrestling, you fucking piece of disengenous garbage.
Bitch you said 100 and now you say 14...learn math.
Ah yeah I forgot about that one. That's a registered-sex-offender-for-life kind of a deal isn't it. It lets the elected prosecuters run on a platform about how they are extremely tough on the crime of child pornography, while not technically lying.
SJW n. One who posts facts.
they won't care about buying a product from an [accused] pedophile
Sex with a sexually mature 16 year old makes you at worst an ephebophile, not a pedophile. Something (while still unsavory) that is far less revolting.
What does that have to do with what I said?
He was crying about how anyone could blame a poor child. I answered.
First off as a veteran of the Vietnam conflict I do not believe you understand what communism is.
Second, Cody Wilson is not the father of 3D do it yourself gun projects.
Third what the hell is with you crazy people blaming a child???? I am now 74. Someone of the age of 16 is not fully developed.
it is absolutely disgusting that anyone who considers them self a conservative nor libertarian would result into such hideous victim-blaming of a child.
If he had picked her up off the street, trolled some random site/forum/whatever geared for 12 year olds, or something like that you might have a leg to stand on. The fact is, she independently went to a website designed for the purpose of meeting older people. She lied to the site about her age. She possibly lied to him about her age. She independently made multiple choices all along the the path including deception and taking money for sex. Then you want to call her a victim? Of what? At worse she's a victim of her own poor choices, which we would oddly not even be talking about were it just a year later. Yet, since it isn't a year later we're just supposed to overlook all the things that she choose to do that brought her to that point and simply say "Nope, just a child so clearly it was all someone else's fault".
Yeah, and then we wonder why more recent generations have the reputation of blaming everyone else. It's what we taught them after all
The whole concept of teenagers was an invention. http://www.ushistory.org/us/46...
No, it's not. I take your article and raise you "Northanger Abbey", a book published in 1817 which more or less has the plot (heavily summarised) "teenagers are a bit silly".
How on earth would you think that is what refutes my referenced statement. If anything, it moves the dates backward. But regardless, if the living conditions were what they were back then, but we waited until what we consider appropriate, we'd go extinct in short order. People were in general dying off at the age that many consider proper for having children today.
Now how on earth could that be a thing if teenagers didn't even exist then?
You are woefully confused here. Your attempted refutation based on a word, simply does not negate the concept of extended childhood. Where once humans married shortly after puberty, and through the concept of teenagers - or if you find the word so offensive - extended childhood might salve your sensitive ears, there is no question at all that extended childhood exists.
There are even scientifically measurable brain changes that happen during adolescence.
All through life there are measurable changes in the brain. That in no way means that humans should wait until menopause to have children.
That is because there are years of peak fertility, and it is very difficult to bear children outside their physical boundaries.
Welcome to the real world. The real world is messy and fully of grey areas requiring a mixture of poorly applied rules and actual judgement. For example in this case it's often very clear when things are far over one side of the line. 5 years old? Definitely not ok. 50 years old? Definitely OK. Logarithmically interpolate (~16) and you run right into the middle of a grey area.
It's stark but ultimately it's like everything else. There's always a continum between "definitely fine" and "fuck no" and no matter where you draw the line problems abound.
I do not have an issue with obeying simple age limits described and implemented by the social mores that exist where I am at. Seems pretty simple to me.
It is very difficult to assign a certain age as the lower limit, but you have to.
14? Some young ladies have not even gone through puberty yet. There is a genetic relationship as well as a weight relationship. 16? Well, some young ladies have been fertile and sexually interested for 4 years already. 18? I suppose that might work, but the sex drive in both male and female is raging pretty hard by that time. So a country discusses and sets a lower limit, and you comply with it.
Disclaimer - I've always been attracted to women of a more mature outlook, which to me starts in most women in their mid 20's. Even when I was a teenager, I hung around the local college campus. High school girls were silly and pretty lame mentally.
If the law says something stupid it won't be obeyed and nor should it.
Meh. Sometimes the posted speed limit is stupid. Sometimes following the rules about recreational drugs like weed is stupid. You want to bang some 14 year old, go ahead, but don't come bitching if you end up in jail.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
If the law says something stupid it won't be obeyed and nor should it.
It's not, which is how you end up with 19 year old "sex offenders" with distraught 16 year old girlfriends.
Yeah, and that's a shame. But boys that age think with their dicks, not their brains. Time to educate them that there is a world out there that wants to destroy them, and boinking their girlfriend when she's underage will give society all it needs.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
So a girl lies about her age and joins a website to sell sex⦠A website that claims to require everyone to be 18 or over⦠and the government goes halfway around the planet to get the guy? What about her fraud and prostitution? Why is she a victim here and not the criminal?
Ephebophilia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Get it right.
And it's absolutely beyond fucked up that Men go to jail for a young woman lying about her age. There's tons of 16 Yr olds that look much older than they are. Who would expect a 16 yr old would resort to creating an adult online profile? Why aren't we looking at this?
If it's proven he had every intention of a young adult interaction that's one thing. You still shouldn't pay for it. But As far as the law is concerned her actions should have her treated as an adult in this case unless she's being trafficked. This is the more likely scenario and it should still exclude him from prosecution for the underage portion. He should still answer for the paying for sex part though.
Also, Polaris Project:
https://polarisproject.org/
~ People that think they are better than anyone else for any reason are the cause of all the strife in the world.
Sex is the oldest currency known to man. I don't think the #metoo movement is going to change that.
The loss of due process and re-evaluation of the risk/reward aspect of interaction between the sexes is causing men to avoid them. There is already in Japan, the "Herbivore men" who exchew relationships with females https://www.telegraph.co.uk/me...
Now I've been married for a long time, but as a hetero male with a healthy sex drive, my risk/reward analysis leads me to state in no uncertain terms that if I was young today, I would concentrate on my career and hobbies only, and make certain I was never in a position that could be compromised. As some say - that juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Other guys? Hey, if the prospect of being called out on social media and convicted by the public with no defense or due process is worth a bit of modern woman sex - by all means, go for it. I'll be the guy sitting on the lawn chair, drinking shots of tequila and eating popcorn while watching their destruction.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
When did we all become so afraid of sex? When did it become this horrible threat that nobody (else) should engage in?
I grew up too late for the Sexual Revolution – I was a child in the '70s and missed out on the free love. I came of age just as AIDS was cooling everyone's jets.
Then came Anita Hill, PC, campus consent codes, no means no, fourth-wave feminism and the accompanying misandry... we are living through a Sexual Ice Age.
I'm afraid by the time it thaws, I'll be too old for even Viagra to help me.
Bitch you said 100 and now you say 14...learn math.
As soon as you learn to follow conversations, homie.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
The technique is called "Parallel Construction", professor. Read up on it. He, probably, did do it — but the evidence, likely, stems from surveillance placed on him illegally. To avoid having to reveal the surveillance, and the danger of having the suit thrown out because the entire investigation was a Fruit of the Poisonous Tree, the feds hinted to local police, who've built their own evidence from scratch.
It is still a Fruit of Poisoned Tree and he should walk on those grounds alone.
I rather doubt, the site specializes in underage prostitutes — that's just bad for business...
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
When did we all become so afraid of sex? When did it become this horrible threat that nobody (else) should engage in?.
I think that the third wave feminists are intent on if not killing it, of exercising dictatorial control of anything that might be considered sexual in nature. The weird part is that the third wavers have cast women as so incredibly weak that the act of a male winking at a woman is now considerd sexual harassment, and apparently damages the woman terribly. So unless she gives "enthusiastic consent" to anything a male suggests, one wrong move on his part is rape. Want to nibble on her earlobe? if in a fit of passion you nibble without asking, or you don't get an enthusiastic YES! from her when you asked to, you have just sexually assaulted her.
The terrible thing is that many women go along with this, but discover too late that it is destructive to happiness. It has killed spontaneity, since married woman need to give enthusiastic consent as well. The trump card is now the mere asking is she would like to do anything sexual can be considered harassment. If she doesn't want to be asked.
differential analysis - there are a lot of women following the marching orders of other women who have a white hot hatred of all men. They've been trained to lowkey hate men, and the men they lowkey hate are finally deciding that there are other paths to happiness.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
This is how it goes:
1. 'Murica wants to get rid of/arrest/black-bag someone for whatever reason.
2. Engage in character assassination
3. Accuse them of a crime - proof being dubious
4. Extradite them, jail them, get them out of a job so 'Murica can continue being 'Murica.
Examples: ..the list goes on and on.
Kim Dotcom - Megaupload
Julian Assange - WikiLeaks
Dominique Strauss-Kahn - Former IMF head who allegedly raped a maid in NYC
For some reason, the dictates of modern feminism demand starting a career right out of college, then working for a decade, then finding mister right, and having children.
That's more the dictates of the job market meaning taking a career break, or even time to give birth, in their 20s, and having a partner earning enough , isn't possible.
Because, as we know, no 16 year olds are dumb, and none ever do anything illegal because they are immature,
For some reason, the dictates of modern feminism demand starting a career right out of college, then working for a decade, then finding mister right, and having children.
That's more the dictates of the job market meaning taking a career break, or even time to give birth, in their 20s, and having a partner earning enough , isn't possible.
I see. My wife's having a child early while in her most fertile years, with the biggest likelihood of a healthy baby, then embarking on a highly successful and well paid career with a salary always within a few hundred dollars one way or the other that allowed both us to retire very early - was all wrong, amirite? Gawd, I wish we could have known!
I can hardly wait until these women who put off having children until the latest possible time, say mid 40's, are going to think of having a high school senior in the house when they are in their mid 60's. Assuming that their daughters also take the incredibly intelligent approach, the lady better be planning to live until they are at least 120 years old to have a chance of seeing her grandchild. Women are powerful, but does that power extend to immunity against time?
"Let's visit grandma's and daddy's urns in the mausoleum Brittany! After that, we'll visit your mother in the nursing home." is more like it.
Feminism and their dictates have convinced many women that they can have it all - apparently that they can deny time as well. Or perhaps not. You decide.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Uh-huh, so why are we defending him?
So, the Trump administration is pushing the prosecution of this guy? Is that your assertion?
At bottom, my concern is that you're doing a fair amount of mental jujitsu to try to come up with a conspiracy scenario where this statutory rapist second amendment hero is set free because you think disseminating the plans for 3D-printed guns means he should never be held accountable for any crimes he commits.
Sometimes, the simplest explanation is the best one: he bought a prostitute from a website that specializes in extra-young girls and he committed rape. Running away to Taiwan and pretending to be a 30 year-old student doesn't make him look particularly innocent. Also, he reportedly visits Southeast Asia a lot, which makes me suspicious that he's doing a little pedophilia sex tourism. He got a taste for young meat over there and thought he'd do it at home and got his dick caught in a wringer.
You are welcome on my lawn.
This is obviously the Big Gun industry conspiring to defame someone attacking their market share. /s
Because injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere, remember that annoying ditty, professor? If NSA were illegally surveilling his phone, they broke the law. He ought to walk just to teach them a lesson. Does the name Ernesto Miranda ring any bells? He was far worse that Cody Wilson — his crime was not a pseudo "assault", but a real kidnapping and rape. Yet, he walked, because his Constitutional rights were violated by police — and now his name is immortalized in the term "Miranda Rights"...
The same swamp, that leaned on Norway to go after Assange, who now push Trump's own prosecution, is after this guy, that's my conspiracy theory.
He is not even accused of rape — the charges are "sexual assault". In Arkansas — across the border — 16 is old enough, for example, stop trying to vilify him over a Malum Prohibitum transgression.
Now, that site, which you claim is specializing in the "extra young" — I'll take your word for it — they must have a substantial customer-base, don't you think? Just to stay in business, uhm? And this one can not possibly be the only girl, who's a tad too young to be legal. Why is Cody Wilson the only one prosecuted? Shouldn't the site be busted open — as "Backpage" were — if they "profit from rape"? Or, if this girl is an anomaly, how could Wilson have suspected her age? As the OP said, this case does not smell right at all...
What should worry you is the threat to our privacy — but, of course, it does not. It is only important, when Communist terrorists need to get off the hook. When it is about a guy who defends the Bill of Rights, you jeer and wish him to burn.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The age of justice is dead, if it ever did really exist. The gov't doesn't like Julian Assange, so he's got bimbos accusing him of this and that sexually. We have the current situation with Judge Kavanaugh, more bimbos. There were Herman Caine's bimbos, Bill O'Reilly's bimbos, Roger Ailes' bimbos, Clarence Thomas' bimbos, etc.
And of course this only matters for Republicans. Kieth Ellison has a bimbo and nobody cares. Bill Clinton has a string of bimbos and nobody cared. Teddy Kennedy even killed a bimbo and nobody cared. There's really no such thing as a Democrat bimbo, only gutter scum not to be believed.
"If"? You brought that into the conversation with zero evidence. Just dropped it in like nobody was going to notice?
In most states, the charge of rape has been broken into several categories, for the purposes of sentencing. Make no mistake: It's rape.
Look how far afield you're willing to take this story to make it match up with your bias. What evidence do you have of a threat to his privacy? What do "Communists" have to do with this guy raping an underage girl in Texas?
Are undocumented immigrants criminals? Did they break a law, however minor? So then isn't Cody Wilson a criminal if he broke a law?
You really don't have to go all Infowars on this, mi. It's a lot of wasted energy and gets you all upset and there have to be more important things or people in your life. Making up conspiracies out of thin air is no way to live.
You are welcome on my lawn.
1. The website requires that it's members be at least 18.
2. How do you know that he "ran away" to Taiwan or that his presence there had anything to do with the warrant.
3. 16 may be legally "under age", but it is not a child.
4. Being attracted to a 16 year old is not a "pedophile" even if 16 is below the age of consent.
Because we must never, ever, ever hold anyone of the female persuasion responsible for her own own choices and actions.
??? I said "if" several times in this thread. Of course, I have no proof, NSA (or DEA) has been involved. But there are too many hints at them being behind it — the biggest being, why him? (Or why only him?)
It may be "rape" legally — because that's how Texas legislators chose to write the law. It is not rape by a normal human's definition — that is, it is not "having sex with someone against their will".
Crossing a country's border without the country's permission is Malum in Se. Having sex with with a fully-developed 16 y/o woman is merely Malum Prohibitum.
There are too many similarities with the bizarre accusations against Assange's for this to pass the smell-test.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
He apparently used the nick Sanjuro on the sugardaddy site. The exact same nick as the anonymous founder of a darkweb assassination market (that was a bitcoin exit scam). Which he predicted would be created in a public video of a speech of his taken before the AM was created. Then "sanjuro" on AM appeared to have cashed out the bitcoin for $1.3 million, roughly around the same time Cody was crowdfunding DEFCAD.
https://twitter.com/WildGoose1776/status/1042490631585783809
Reminder folks, squeaky clean OPSEC is hard, human habits die hard, people are lazy, and like maintaining pseudonyms because it's less mentally taxing...
Though he definitely got busted by parallel construction from other data sources though. That's what happens to enemies of the state.
Yes, of course, legally. And when you get arrested and tried, the only definition that applies is "legally".
If you read the full story, Cody Wilson did both. He entered Taiwan without a passport and raped an underage girl. That's Mucho Malum, however you And honestly, I don't think those Latin phrases mean what you think they mean. Both of those things are malum prohibitum.
Did Assange also buy an underage girl online? Did he get arrested in Texas, too? I don't remember that part of the story. Be honest. The only similarity between Cody Wilson and Assange is that they're both skeevy and they're both your heroes. And they're both in trouble.
You are welcome on my lawn.
There is also the possibility that the local prosecutor found out about an alleged rape and is doing his duty, just like he or she would do in any other case of alleged rape.
Yep, he got right on it after receiving that "anonymous tip" from the FBI who illegally had Wilson under heavy electronic surveillance. After all, Wilson's 3D Liberator files were an existential threat to those more-authoritarian regimes we have a cozy intelligence relationship with.
If the Deep State will illegally surveil Congressmen, journalists, and POTUS candidates, it's rather a given they'd have Wilson under a microscope. Anyone who says otherwise is either a shill or hopelessly blind and naive.
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
If he had simply been living up north by one state, he might not be in such hot water.
Uh... in what US state is paying for sex with a 16 year old legal?
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Something noteworthy: in my country (Finland), and I suspect in England as well, the law is very different when it comes to paying a 16-year old hooker for sex than it is for ordinary consensual sex with a 16-years old. The latter is legal while the former is worse than paying an adult for sex (which also is illegal here).
16-years old is not a "full adult" and while most countries deem it to be old enough for having sex, they don't deem it to be old enough to make a decision of becoming a prostitute.
In capitalist USA corporations control the government.
Besides the confusing aspect of a) arresting an individual over a crime committed in another country, when it was NOT illegal in said country. b) the use of such to essentially incarcerate a political dissident, after the courts cleared said individual. And what is CLEARLY a sting operation, because this crap happens thousands of times a day and the government is neither aware of, nor cares about...but apparently knew all about this situation. d) which also points to the government illegally wiretapping a citizen
Just shows.....
1. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS A MAJOR SUPPORT OF RAPE & PROSTITUTION.
2. WE NEED 3D PRINTABLE GUNS....CAUSE .GOV IS UNTRUSTWORTHY
We have a four branched government, Executive, Legislative, Judicial, and the People.
Try again.
He entered Taiwan legally; the US *revoked* his passport after he was there, at which point Taiwan booted him for "not having a valid passport".
You didn't even have to RTFA; it as right IN the story that he's not accused of anything illegal in Taiwan other than "getting fucked by the US":
"Taiwan has no formal extradition treaty with the U.S., and Wilson was not said to have been doing anything directly criminal in Taiwan, the press there reports that he was arrested without incident because the U.S. had revoked his passport, making his mere presence in Taiwan illegal"
I am curious as to how the authorities found out about this. I would like to assume that people don't generally brag about their paid sexual experiences. If she lied about her age to get on the site, then why is this man fully to blame? Did she disclose her age to him before engaging in sex? Does she 'look' 16? Did he record the encounter? Was the whole thing a setup? We need more information, I think.
Besides the confusing aspect of a) arresting an individual over a crime committed in another country, when it was NOT illegal in said country. b) the use of such to essentially incarcerate a political dissident, after the courts cleared said individual. And what is CLEARLY a sting operation, because this crap happens thousands of times a day and the government is neither aware of, nor cares about...but apparently knew all about this situation. d) which also points to the government illegally wiretapping a citizen
Just shows.....
1. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS A MAJOR SUPPORT OF RAPE & PROSTITUTION.
2. WE NEED 3D PRINTABLE GUNS....CAUSE .GOV IS UNTRUSTWORTHY
We have a four branched government, Executive, Legislative, Judicial, and the People.
um... what?
arresting an individual over a crime committed in another country
The two are said to have met last month and traveled to an Austin, Texas, hotel, where they had sex, for which Wilson paid the girl $500.
It happened in Texas and it's illegal in Texas. They found out while he was in Taiwan.
Just another second banana
He is a pedophile, just trying to stay on the barely legal age of it. You don't go as an adult and pay someone who just ticked into the legal age because you're not interested in fucking as young as possible. If this was Sweden he'd had been fucking a 14 year old.
exactly. There are social reasons why dudes like to date younger women but most people learn better when they grow up. A 30-y-o dude going after 18 year olds isn't not gross because it's legal.
Just another second banana
If this was Sweden he'd had been fucking a 14 year old.
You don't think he could have easily gotten a very young girl in Taiwan? How naive are you anyway.
Your *speculation* as to what he might have done only shows how ill-informed you are.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I always enjoy how the right rationalizes the criminal activity of it's own. The guy could've been caught kidnapping, murdering and raping babies, and there is bound to be a cabal of righties proudly shouting that baby was asking for it, or babies can consent, or the FBI put that baby up to it, or it's only illegal because the baby accepted money.
I know you have no idea how ridiculous you sound to us adults, but we find it very entertaining.
The overall government isn't, no. But I've seem some crazy statements by members of the government who (moronically) seem to believe his plastic zip gun is the next downfall of society, a machine gun in every pot.
Assange wanted Manning to be pardoned. Manning, with clemency, is still guilty in the eyes of the law.
Listen gramps, they only have to be developed enough. Which happens faster now with all the hormones pumped into everything. Even 16 is generally old enough to know the birds and the bees.
Is committing murder on the Intertubes a State or a Federal felony?
This comment is my opinion and does not represent an official position of Donald Trump or others I do not work for
If he had simply been living up north by one state, he might not be in such hot water.
Assuming events happened as the government alleges. It's not like they've never lied to use before. But it's possible they're telling the truth, maybe even likely.
Even so, it does seem rather odd that the federal government acted so quickly and vigorously to pursue and retrieve someone who violated a state law. Do they do this for everyone who allegedly breaks a state law, or just someone who's recently beaten them in court, and humiliated them in the process?
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.
Another oddity. He was retrieved from another country, but then he was allowed out on bond?
http://knappster.blogspot.com/2018/09/cody-wilson-did-you-notice-this.html
There's no time like the present. Well, the past used to be.