Maybe I'm missing something in that agreement, but I don't see where there's a prohibition on talking to NHTSA or anyone else about the problem. The gag is on telling people that Tesla offer remedy out of warranty and that in accepting that "goodwill" they could neither join party nor testify in any legal action taken by other parties against Tesla related to this. Further, that in offering this "goodwill" they are not admitting fault, nor acknowledging any inherent defect.
Yes, its written in legalsleaze, but presumably they paid the lawyers to make sure being "nice" didn't have any blowback. The dealers of other car brands would simply tell you to "get bent," and make you pay for the out of warranty work since the factory won't compensate them. This is a benefit of NOT having independent dealers in the loop. It's a shame this legal CYB is being contorted to attack Tesla rather than acknowledging the unheard of in the industry kindness you'd never see elsewhere unless NHTSA forced them to fix.
Actually seems like an interesting strategy to firewall against stock based hostilities by diluting ownership among its customers. Not sure if 1M shares will be adequate though, but a nice start.
2-4 years? There was a time when you had to wait decades for a troop to grace the stage in your town. I fail to see the merits of your argument. Artificial encumbrances to progress are illogical.
If I was forced to come up with an explanation, I expect it would be that if old titles were made available that there is fear that it would hurt new title sales.
Fix your state politics then as that's where the over whelming majority of the failure takes place--including your highways. You know that whole "states rights" B.S. that allows corrupt state and local officials to frack everybody over, while the federal government--usually bypassing congress and straight on to the President--takes the fall.
Hate to break it to you but the "feed" corn feeds both people and animals. If it didn't go for ethanol, it would have gone to cattle be they animal or human (think corn syrup, dextrose, etc.). A plot of dirt doesn't come with a pre-determined crop that can/will grow on it. Farmer's pick their crops based upon what will pay them the most. When all these stupid corn-ethanol subsidies came into vogue many farmers swapped the crops they were growing to corn. In the US ethanol is pushed as a support to farmers using the pre-existing corn subsidy programs and more discretely, the petroleum industry. Because of this, the alternative ethanol crops such as switch grass will not be used to any substantial degree.
Range anxiety is a fabrication of the old guard auto/petrol industries. It largely does not exist among consumers willing to consider alternatives to petrol.
*shrug* Not sure what the issue is, other than household incomes creating haves and have nots. For my daughter--which will turn three next month--having her own Android tablet has been a huge boon for her language and social skills. Obviously installing nanny apps, and playing an attentive role in what she's doing on there is critical. From my perspective I see it as a very important tool for her development.
Might have something to do with the energy cost of pushing an object through air that at speed has the fluid dynamic characteristics of molasses; might have to do with the challenge of maintaining structural integrity of an object being pushed through molasses; might be that pushing the object through molasses is actually the easier engineering problem; might have something to do with the lack of a need to push an object through molasses;...
Your libertarian ideals are great right up until the real world gets applied to them.
Imaging yourself, you the consumer having contracted an incurable, debilitating illness from a new GM soybean product. Of course you have no way of knowing what caused your illness. There's no regulatory environment requiring oversight that would have identified the problem with the soybeans. Maybe it was the factory down the road, maybe it was something you ate, maybe you just happened to win the genetic lottery. All you know is that you life has been irrevocably destroyed, you can't work, you have mountains of medical bills you can't afford. Of course you're not the only one, thousands of others have had a similar experience, similar illness. But it's a mystery, others have gotten sick so it probably has nothing to do with the factory since many don't live near you. Perhaps it's something everyone eat. But what? Ten years later, after manyfold more people have had their health shattered, young children have died, etc. a young university student makes the correlation. This particular soybean has boomed into a billion dollar industry. "Unfounded", "baseless accusations" they, say "millions around the world eat food made from our beans and they're not sick." Fortunately an ambulance chasing lawyer group steps up to create a class action lawsuit against the megacorp responsible for the bad beans. Unfortunately, the case is thrown out for lack of evidence. Aside from the correlation findings by the university student, no one has been able to prove it was the beans. License to use the GM soybeans prohibits any use other than to produce food, independent research on the beans is stymied. Not that it would have mattered much, your health has continued to deteriorate, you stand in financial ruin living off of government disability pay (good thing the Libertarians didn't take that away). A financial windfall might have been salve to your money woes but what difference would it make when you're laid up in bed wracked with pain most of the time. Why, oh why couldn't someone have discovered this problem early, before I ate all those french fries fried in soy oil?
BTW, I'm impressed with your confidence in GM plants not being harmful. Personally I'd be quite concerned with a food plant that produces its own pesticide that works by causing hemorrhaging in the gut. Particularly given that gut inflammation continues to be found at the root of many health problems. Or herbicide resistant crops that can crossbreed with weeds to likewise gain a resistance.
I'm not against GMO food per-se. I am against the regulatory environment surrounding GMOs. Specifically the ability for the calorie companies to do whatever they like to the genetic makeup of these plants, then get to self-certify that they're safe for consumption. All while creating licensing agreements that make it nearly impossible to perform independent studies. If this were big pharma and not big aggro, people would be up in arms. A better example of conflict of interest; the fox guarding the hen house you will not find.
GMOs may well be safe in the majority of cases--as this report tries to assert--but absent independent oversight it's truly difficult to know. Given the vast sums of money involved in the calorie business, who in their right mind can honestly believe them to operate as saints?
If it wasn't for YouTube I'd have never heard of her nor her work. She should be grateful to YouTube for giving her work an audience, just as old fashioned radio once did. It's like trying to be friends with someone you've never met. An introduction is required.
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Maybe I'm missing something in that agreement, but I don't see where there's a prohibition on talking to NHTSA or anyone else about the problem. The gag is on telling people that Tesla offer remedy out of warranty and that in accepting that "goodwill" they could neither join party nor testify in any legal action taken by other parties against Tesla related to this. Further, that in offering this "goodwill" they are not admitting fault, nor acknowledging any inherent defect.
Yes, its written in legalsleaze, but presumably they paid the lawyers to make sure being "nice" didn't have any blowback. The dealers of other car brands would simply tell you to "get bent," and make you pay for the out of warranty work since the factory won't compensate them. This is a benefit of NOT having independent dealers in the loop. It's a shame this legal CYB is being contorted to attack Tesla rather than acknowledging the unheard of in the industry kindness you'd never see elsewhere unless NHTSA forced them to fix.
Perhaps it was just too profound for your comprehension...?
Pretty sure there's no such thing as a "throttle body" on an 100% electric vehicle.
Actually seems like an interesting strategy to firewall against stock based hostilities by diluting ownership among its customers. Not sure if 1M shares will be adequate though, but a nice start.
Plaintiff represents himself. This guy and his buddy appear to have made frivolous lawsuits their full-time job.
Sure the movie itself was a bit cheesy but I didn't think Milla Jovovich was all that bad looking.
2-4 years? There was a time when you had to wait decades for a troop to grace the stage in your town. I fail to see the merits of your argument. Artificial encumbrances to progress are illogical.
If I was forced to come up with an explanation, I expect it would be that if old titles were made available that there is fear that it would hurt new title sales.
I fail to see the point in the staggered releases and/or excluded regions. The folks behind the HD-DVD spec apparently didn't either.
Well actually...
Fix your state politics then as that's where the over whelming majority of the failure takes place--including your highways. You know that whole "states rights" B.S. that allows corrupt state and local officials to frack everybody over, while the federal government--usually bypassing congress and straight on to the President--takes the fall.
I'm not sure where you got that statistic from but I can tell you that nearly all of rural America has a median family income half that.
Hate to break it to you but the "feed" corn feeds both people and animals. If it didn't go for ethanol, it would have gone to cattle be they animal or human (think corn syrup, dextrose, etc.). A plot of dirt doesn't come with a pre-determined crop that can/will grow on it. Farmer's pick their crops based upon what will pay them the most. When all these stupid corn-ethanol subsidies came into vogue many farmers swapped the crops they were growing to corn. In the US ethanol is pushed as a support to farmers using the pre-existing corn subsidy programs and more discretely, the petroleum industry. Because of this, the alternative ethanol crops such as switch grass will not be used to any substantial degree.
Range anxiety is a fabrication of the old guard auto/petrol industries. It largely does not exist among consumers willing to consider alternatives to petrol.
There are plenty of less expensive, lower risk options for energy storage. e.g. flywheels, molten salt, water reservoirs, etc.
*shrug* Not sure what the issue is, other than household incomes creating haves and have nots. For my daughter--which will turn three next month--having her own Android tablet has been a huge boon for her language and social skills. Obviously installing nanny apps, and playing an attentive role in what she's doing on there is critical. From my perspective I see it as a very important tool for her development.
In other words, not the US market. Understood.
Might have something to do with the energy cost of pushing an object through air that at speed has the fluid dynamic characteristics of molasses; might have to do with the challenge of maintaining structural integrity of an object being pushed through molasses; might be that pushing the object through molasses is actually the easier engineering problem; might have something to do with the lack of a need to push an object through molasses; ...
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When was the last time you rode on a commercial airline...?
I'm puzzled by the association with Musk inspired hyper loops.
Your libertarian ideals are great right up until the real world gets applied to them.
Imaging yourself, you the consumer having contracted an incurable, debilitating illness from a new GM soybean product. Of course you have no way of knowing what caused your illness. There's no regulatory environment requiring oversight that would have identified the problem with the soybeans. Maybe it was the factory down the road, maybe it was something you ate, maybe you just happened to win the genetic lottery. All you know is that you life has been irrevocably destroyed, you can't work, you have mountains of medical bills you can't afford. Of course you're not the only one, thousands of others have had a similar experience, similar illness. But it's a mystery, others have gotten sick so it probably has nothing to do with the factory since many don't live near you. Perhaps it's something everyone eat. But what? Ten years later, after manyfold more people have had their health shattered, young children have died, etc. a young university student makes the correlation. This particular soybean has boomed into a billion dollar industry. "Unfounded", "baseless accusations" they, say "millions around the world eat food made from our beans and they're not sick." Fortunately an ambulance chasing lawyer group steps up to create a class action lawsuit against the megacorp responsible for the bad beans. Unfortunately, the case is thrown out for lack of evidence. Aside from the correlation findings by the university student, no one has been able to prove it was the beans. License to use the GM soybeans prohibits any use other than to produce food, independent research on the beans is stymied. Not that it would have mattered much, your health has continued to deteriorate, you stand in financial ruin living off of government disability pay (good thing the Libertarians didn't take that away). A financial windfall might have been salve to your money woes but what difference would it make when you're laid up in bed wracked with pain most of the time. Why, oh why couldn't someone have discovered this problem early, before I ate all those french fries fried in soy oil?
BTW, I'm impressed with your confidence in GM plants not being harmful. Personally I'd be quite concerned with a food plant that produces its own pesticide that works by causing hemorrhaging in the gut. Particularly given that gut inflammation continues to be found at the root of many health problems. Or herbicide resistant crops that can crossbreed with weeds to likewise gain a resistance.
Actually with GMOs were are also talking about pesticides (if not herbicides) since certain crops were modified to produce them.
I'm not against GMO food per-se. I am against the regulatory environment surrounding GMOs. Specifically the ability for the calorie companies to do whatever they like to the genetic makeup of these plants, then get to self-certify that they're safe for consumption. All while creating licensing agreements that make it nearly impossible to perform independent studies. If this were big pharma and not big aggro, people would be up in arms. A better example of conflict of interest; the fox guarding the hen house you will not find.
GMOs may well be safe in the majority of cases--as this report tries to assert--but absent independent oversight it's truly difficult to know. Given the vast sums of money involved in the calorie business, who in their right mind can honestly believe them to operate as saints?
Having posted only two videos related to her work, and the fact that she does jazz, I'd say that's doing exceptionally well.
If it wasn't for YouTube I'd have never heard of her nor her work. She should be grateful to YouTube for giving her work an audience, just as old fashioned radio once did. It's like trying to be friends with someone you've never met. An introduction is required.