I don't see how the WW2 use of "Jerry" is any more offensive than calling me a "Brit", "Scot" or "Scotty" either btw. No need to try and be so overly sensitive.
people need to quit saying they want a "realistic" game, but just remove all the real stuff that we don't exactly like. No, you want realism, here it is. deal with it
It's still meant to be a game, not a simulator. I don't have a problem with them doing a terrorists in a mall scene, but I do have a problem when they want me to file out incident reports or spend a few weeks in a real time simulated jail when a member of a CT team accidentally takes out a hostage or whatever.
It takes a hell of a lot more than just a rocket motor and some explosives to make a weapon that will kill effectively.
What exactly are you trying to kill that can't "effectively" be taken out with an explosive guided missile? Godzilla?
He already said the missile was guided, and it presumably wouldn't be that hard to set an accelerometer, heat sensor, laser distance measurer/whatever to judge when you have hit or got close enough to your target to explode. No, I haven't built a missile before, but it's not exactly rocket sc.. oh wait. Even so, it's not magic.
I was just trying to use a relevant analogy, most people here will have had several years of experience with DVDs:P Myself I have a sizeable collection or DVDs and a tiny collection of blu-rays, as well as a freeview recorder, but I haven't moved to downloads yet - apart from the odd illegal download in the past which I've since made the decision to avoid unless something like a TV series is horribly overpriced, or otherwise unavailable. Apparently Sony are going to be opening their PS3 download service in the UK soon, I will probably give it a go.
If software had evolved in the same way as hardware, it would virtually all be free these days and would probably just come bundled with hardware.
Some of it is, but how do you expect the games industry (or any industry beyond OS and productivity software) to work in that model? That would be like getting millions of big budget movies for free just because you bought a DVD player.
PS3 actually, but I try not to be like the crazy fanboys. I can see benefits in both systems (Xbox Live is apparently much better than the PS3 way of finding network games, and I do miss WON/Steam), I've just hated Microsoft since my Amiga days..
Definitely agree, though using a joypad is very compact and convenient. At the moment I'd only want the mouse when playing competitively against PC gamers, otherwise everyone is at least restricted to the same control system..
My own PC is still mostly running Windows, but I fully expect that Microsoft will some day piss me off enough that Windows gets kicked from the HD. At that point I'll have to give up some games that don't (yet) run under WINE but otherwise I'll be fine. You don't have that sort of freedom with a console.
I used to think like that, but buying a console has given me plenty of freedom - I can now run whatever OS I wish on my computers and keep the gaming on the console. I've even accepted using stupid joysticks instead of a mouse for FPSes. There are downsides, but overall I'm happy to not have any need for Windows any more.
More like you sticking on your own 3rd party turbo. Then next time your car goes in for service, the manufacturer does an update on your ECU that disables the turbo.
This sounds a lot to me like MapleStory, so it is already the copying stage. I assume that MapleStory has been moderately successful. I spent about as much on it over a couple of months as I would have spent buying a boxed PC game, as a kind of thankyou. And also to get a cool purple lightsabre and pink bunny.
The most useful initial application for me would be to simulate a shift keypress when you press a little harder than everyday typing pressure.
Could be amusing for automatically writing in caps when you get ANGRY, and handy for running in oldskool FPS games that don't support the full analog range of the buttons - which could be easily supported right now in any game that already supports analog games controllers.
Some people want their games to be a bit more involved than interactive cutscenes. I enjoy plot too, but for racing games, there shouldn't really have to be one (though the latest racing games do usually have plots too..). There is nothing especially braindead about a good racing game (not that all of them are good). Some people find racing mentally invigorating - there's plenty of interesting physics, tactics and skill involved in good car control and racing lines.
Halo is an extreme boring game as FPSes go (in my opinion, of course). It definitely falls into the braindead "I only like it because I've never experienced anything better" category..
Tempted to say if you want games to be like a good book, why not just read a good book, but I do know what you're getting at. Maybe Deus Ex 3 will be what you want when it comes out, and could inspire other developers.
The computer gaming industry has hardly even existed for 30 years. I think you have a pretty bad case of rose tinted spectacles if you think everything went downhill after pong..
As for the whole gaming on phones thing.. I really don't see the point in it. Maybe if you do a lot of bus journeys or something. The only time I used to play games on my phone was in my university lectures. Since then I have maybe played while waiting for food at a takeaway place. Other than that, I'm happy with my PS3 and HDTV, thanks. I've hardly ever used my PSP or DS either.
This story acts like stopping to think about what you are doing means that you are going to implement huge, stupid architectures, but in reality he is just making excuses for being a sloppy hack. I feel damn sorry for anybody that has to support this crap in the future.
That's what I thought too, though I myself am probably a duct tape programmer by the sounds of it. Doesn't help that I keep getting asked to add in new features to my current main project (just a web based database app written with perl/sqlite) every couple of weeks of course, but I have spent this week going back over everything and tidying a lot of stuff up, making it much more modular and coherent. It feels good:)
I understood him fine. TBH I stopped paying attention to the spelling errors too - you simply have to these days if you want to read any form of communication without the urge to stab yourself (or others) in the eyeballs.
First of all, he didn't claim he was using bug-free code, but nevertheless: if you're reusing already pretty-much-proven code in a wide variety of applications, you're much more likely to find and squash any remaining bugs that are in it. Then you can patch up the previous projects too, seems like a highly beneficial practice to me.
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I didn't even realise it had anything to do with jerry as in the wartime nickname for the Germans o_0 http://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2008/08/jerry-rigged-expression.html seems to agree with me.
I don't see how the WW2 use of "Jerry" is any more offensive than calling me a "Brit", "Scot" or "Scotty" either btw. No need to try and be so overly sensitive.
people need to quit saying they want a "realistic" game, but just remove all the real stuff that we don't exactly like. No, you want realism, here it is. deal with it
It's still meant to be a game, not a simulator. I don't have a problem with them doing a terrorists in a mall scene, but I do have a problem when they want me to file out incident reports or spend a few weeks in a real time simulated jail when a member of a CT team accidentally takes out a hostage or whatever.
It's easier to just type "Darth Mandelson"
It takes a hell of a lot more than just a rocket motor and some explosives to make a weapon that will kill effectively.
What exactly are you trying to kill that can't "effectively" be taken out with an explosive guided missile? Godzilla?
He already said the missile was guided, and it presumably wouldn't be that hard to set an accelerometer, heat sensor, laser distance measurer/whatever to judge when you have hit or got close enough to your target to explode. No, I haven't built a missile before, but it's not exactly rocket sc.. oh wait. Even so, it's not magic.
I think you mean "the noobs"
It happens in a few movies. Snakes On A Plane was another. Heh, I just found this: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=91580§ionid=351020406
that's what the 'home' key is for :p
I've thought the same things about the teleporters in Star Trek.. creepy.
I was just trying to use a relevant analogy, most people here will have had several years of experience with DVDs :P Myself I have a sizeable collection or DVDs and a tiny collection of blu-rays, as well as a freeview recorder, but I haven't moved to downloads yet - apart from the odd illegal download in the past which I've since made the decision to avoid unless something like a TV series is horribly overpriced, or otherwise unavailable. Apparently Sony are going to be opening their PS3 download service in the UK soon, I will probably give it a go.
Yes they are, but that wasn't the point of my analogy. I could get plenty of stuff for free, but I choose not to.
If software had evolved in the same way as hardware, it would virtually all be free these days and would probably just come bundled with hardware.
Some of it is, but how do you expect the games industry (or any industry beyond OS and productivity software) to work in that model? That would be like getting millions of big budget movies for free just because you bought a DVD player.
PS3 actually, but I try not to be like the crazy fanboys. I can see benefits in both systems (Xbox Live is apparently much better than the PS3 way of finding network games, and I do miss WON/Steam), I've just hated Microsoft since my Amiga days..
Definitely agree, though using a joypad is very compact and convenient. At the moment I'd only want the mouse when playing competitively against PC gamers, otherwise everyone is at least restricted to the same control system..
My own PC is still mostly running Windows, but I fully expect that Microsoft will some day piss me off enough that Windows gets kicked from the HD. At that point I'll have to give up some games that don't (yet) run under WINE but otherwise I'll be fine. You don't have that sort of freedom with a console.
I used to think like that, but buying a console has given me plenty of freedom - I can now run whatever OS I wish on my computers and keep the gaming on the console. I've even accepted using stupid joysticks instead of a mouse for FPSes. There are downsides, but overall I'm happy to not have any need for Windows any more.
More like you sticking on your own 3rd party turbo. Then next time your car goes in for service, the manufacturer does an update on your ECU that disables the turbo.
*wonders how the fuck that was redundant when it was the 4th post in the thread, and nobody else had mentioned it*
This sounds a lot to me like MapleStory, so it is already the copying stage. I assume that MapleStory has been moderately successful. I spent about as much on it over a couple of months as I would have spent buying a boxed PC game, as a kind of thankyou. And also to get a cool purple lightsabre and pink bunny.
The most useful initial application for me would be to simulate a shift keypress when you press a little harder than everyday typing pressure.
Could be amusing for automatically writing in caps when you get ANGRY, and handy for running in oldskool FPS games that don't support the full analog range of the buttons - which could be easily supported right now in any game that already supports analog games controllers.
Some people want their games to be a bit more involved than interactive cutscenes. I enjoy plot too, but for racing games, there shouldn't really have to be one (though the latest racing games do usually have plots too..). There is nothing especially braindead about a good racing game (not that all of them are good). Some people find racing mentally invigorating - there's plenty of interesting physics, tactics and skill involved in good car control and racing lines.
Halo is an extreme boring game as FPSes go (in my opinion, of course). It definitely falls into the braindead "I only like it because I've never experienced anything better" category..
Tempted to say if you want games to be like a good book, why not just read a good book, but I do know what you're getting at. Maybe Deus Ex 3 will be what you want when it comes out, and could inspire other developers.
The computer gaming industry has hardly even existed for 30 years. I think you have a pretty bad case of rose tinted spectacles if you think everything went downhill after pong..
This guy does http://almighty.c64.org/ . And check out http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/09/18/1857204
As for the whole gaming on phones thing.. I really don't see the point in it. Maybe if you do a lot of bus journeys or something. The only time I used to play games on my phone was in my university lectures. Since then I have maybe played while waiting for food at a takeaway place. Other than that, I'm happy with my PS3 and HDTV, thanks. I've hardly ever used my PSP or DS either.
Dash it all - I've been uncovered yet again! *dons top hat, twiddles moustache and leaves*
Yes I said his post was intelligible, and no, I said reusing code was highly beneficial for squashing bugs..?
This story acts like stopping to think about what you are doing means that you are going to implement huge, stupid architectures, but in reality he is just making excuses for being a sloppy hack. I feel damn sorry for anybody that has to support this crap in the future.
That's what I thought too, though I myself am probably a duct tape programmer by the sounds of it. Doesn't help that I keep getting asked to add in new features to my current main project (just a web based database app written with perl/sqlite) every couple of weeks of course, but I have spent this week going back over everything and tidying a lot of stuff up, making it much more modular and coherent. It feels good :)
I understood him fine. TBH I stopped paying attention to the spelling errors too - you simply have to these days if you want to read any form of communication without the urge to stab yourself (or others) in the eyeballs.
First of all, he didn't claim he was using bug-free code, but nevertheless: if you're reusing already pretty-much-proven code in a wide variety of applications, you're much more likely to find and squash any remaining bugs that are in it. Then you can patch up the previous projects too, seems like a highly beneficial practice to me.
Vista isn't anywhere near being "three years ahead of the competition" though so it doesn't really fall into the topic they're discussing.