No, silly, not USEFUL things like those, the GP wanted to know how much bling-bling OSS has brought to the desktop. I mean, that -IS- what marketing drones and those who've sipped their Kool-Aid think innovation is, right?
Yeah, that's the big problem with that approach. Then again, with a One Time Pad-like login to your main password server, you should be able to mitigate the biggest problems with this solution, with the only negative being that you'd be giving that particular password to the loggers. If it's really a One Time Pad, then so be it, no harm done.
How about a webpage like the one you're talking about bred with the horrible horrible idea of a webpage containing your passwords.
You take that horrible security abomination of a webpage that gives you your passwords to cut'n'paste and you sprinkle it with freshly randomized obfuscation characters every reload (or once an hour so someone who DID find your secret webpage wouldn't be able to constantly refresh to ascertain your passwords). Then you can copy the whole line and then just select-delete the bits that don't belong. Since the garbage parts are different each time (or nearly each time) even a mouse grabber won't be able to reproduce the password string by reproducing the technique.
None of this solves the problem of a logger grabbing the POST data.
My best guess at a platform-independent solution is to VPN using secure authentication to a network you trust and proxy-browse from there. Get your keys all set up nicely at the trusted computer, and you shouldn't even have to type in any passwords, right?
Nuclear power plants for one. At least they don't allow camera phones. My sample size is tiny (2), but the data reads 100% of those 2 don't allow camera phones or laptops or anything else that has anything-more-than-audio recording capability.
I would assume other sensitive areas would carry similar restrictions. I may have another sample to report after they finish building that chemical research facility in the city next-door.
Close. The real equation would look something like (I'm assuming X is the cost of licensing (I would say buying, but we don't REALLY buy software, now do we) the proprietary software) X + proprietary_software_support_costs - open_source_software_support_costs. No fair counting support costs on one side of the equation and ignoring them on the other.
Bill and Ted did the actual legwork for him... Delivery made possible by a large cave somewhere outside of Constantinople.
The part I wanna know is, how the Hell did Galileo know how well the French market of a far off 'then' was doing. Now THAT'S good use of demographic data, I tell you what.
You may not have heard of it, but your skills in assumption have told you pretty much the whole story. It went down pretty much exactly how you describe.
Because America is the least friendly country to corporations in the world, or something, and any shitty laws they buy, well we're just a bunch of little whiney bitches if we think the law intrudes on our pussy "freedoms" or "rights". Yeah, we're a bunch of fags that don't respect our proper place under our superiors, we should be taught a lesson.
No upside, except that fat harassment suit you can hit them with when it's all said and done. Oh, an the warm fuzzy feeling you get when you finally slay the giant that's trying to swat you.
I guess the real test is whether or not those countries' Free Speech Zones are as big as ours here it the U.S. Seems like a simple way to figure out who's speech is 'free-er', right?
I mean, -where- you can exercise free speech is just as important as what you can say. Here in the U.S. they remove all confusion by placing specific areas (out of the way of any events, for the safety of the people trying to speak freely) around cities hosting political events for us, the Free-est of people, to speak our minds without bothering the REAL important people.
Your equating fascism, the authoritarian combination of corporation and state, with progressivism? If you want to go with an authoritarian dig at the left, use the correct foolish analogy: communist.
The ones on the right who think that not wanting to kill innocent civilians (because the President thinks it'll be fun) is 'supporting the tur'rists' are the fascists.
Can you imagine the international outcry that an aggressive attack on Switzerland would ignite? You'd have to be superpower level to be able to get away with it, maybe not even then.
A company is an inanimate object that could never be mistaken for a person or animal. I know this is U.S. centric, but here a corporation -IS- a legal entity with all the rights of a human citizen. I think in the States at least, this bit of law-flotsam (put into code by a court -CLERK- FFS) does give legitimacy to the notion of using the word "who" in reference to an unliving thing. "Official" personification by legal fiat, so to speak.
Heh, actually the plan would be complete by having Canadian Robot Overlords both being welcomed by slashdotters and overseeing the Canadian Robot Manipulator hoards' reproduction/taking over the universe/???/profit functions.
See, it's like a car, you have to have an ECM (in this case, the Canadian Robot Overlords) to coordinate the rest of the complex machinery. But that kind of thing is only likely in Soviet Russia, where Canadians make fun of YOU.
It's not a first post, and there's no goatse, but nonetheless I think I just won slashdot. I hope I unlocked some minigames or something.
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No, silly, not USEFUL things like those, the GP wanted to know how much bling-bling OSS has brought to the desktop. I mean, that -IS- what marketing drones and those who've sipped their Kool-Aid think innovation is, right?
Ahh, the Trifecta!
Offtopic, Troll AND Flamebait. Nice.
Wow, I hadn't thought of it like that before... You've really opened my eyes to this issue.
Yeah, that's the big problem with that approach. Then again, with a One Time Pad-like login to your main password server, you should be able to mitigate the biggest problems with this solution, with the only negative being that you'd be giving that particular password to the loggers. If it's really a One Time Pad, then so be it, no harm done.
How about a webpage like the one you're talking about bred with the horrible horrible idea of a webpage containing your passwords.
You take that horrible security abomination of a webpage that gives you your passwords to cut'n'paste and you sprinkle it with freshly randomized obfuscation characters every reload (or once an hour so someone who DID find your secret webpage wouldn't be able to constantly refresh to ascertain your passwords). Then you can copy the whole line and then just select-delete the bits that don't belong. Since the garbage parts are different each time (or nearly each time) even a mouse grabber won't be able to reproduce the password string by reproducing the technique.
None of this solves the problem of a logger grabbing the POST data.
My best guess at a platform-independent solution is to VPN using secure authentication to a network you trust and proxy-browse from there. Get your keys all set up nicely at the trusted computer, and you shouldn't even have to type in any passwords, right?
Nuclear power plants for one. At least they don't allow camera phones. My sample size is tiny (2), but the data reads 100% of those 2 don't allow camera phones or laptops or anything else that has anything-more-than-audio recording capability.
I would assume other sensitive areas would carry similar restrictions. I may have another sample to report after they finish building that chemical research facility in the city next-door.
It would be if you had dumped your MS stock before the Vista fiasco began.
I've seen greasy tacos before, but a greased up Taco? *shudders*
Close. The real equation would look something like (I'm assuming X is the cost of licensing (I would say buying, but we don't REALLY buy software, now do we) the proprietary software) X + proprietary_software_support_costs - open_source_software_support_costs. No fair counting support costs on one side of the equation and ignoring them on the other.
Bill and Ted did the actual legwork for him... Delivery made possible by a large cave somewhere outside of Constantinople.
The part I wanna know is, how the Hell did Galileo know how well the French market of a far off 'then' was doing. Now THAT'S good use of demographic data, I tell you what.
You may not have heard of it, but your skills in assumption have told you pretty much the whole story. It went down pretty much exactly how you describe.
Because America is the least friendly country to corporations in the world, or something, and any shitty laws they buy, well we're just a bunch of little whiney bitches if we think the law intrudes on our pussy "freedoms" or "rights". Yeah, we're a bunch of fags that don't respect our proper place under our superiors, we should be taught a lesson.
nsakey. Heh. I thought everyone had forgotten about that little source leak. Damn, that was about a decade ago wasn't it?
No upside, except that fat harassment suit you can hit them with when it's all said and done. Oh, an the warm fuzzy feeling you get when you finally slay the giant that's trying to swat you.
I guess the real test is whether or not those countries' Free Speech Zones are as big as ours here it the U.S. Seems like a simple way to figure out who's speech is 'free-er', right?
I mean, -where- you can exercise free speech is just as important as what you can say. Here in the U.S. they remove all confusion by placing specific areas (out of the way of any events, for the safety of the people trying to speak freely) around cities hosting political events for us, the Free-est of people, to speak our minds without bothering the REAL important people.
Your equating fascism, the authoritarian combination of corporation and state, with progressivism? If you want to go with an authoritarian dig at the left, use the correct foolish analogy: communist.
The ones on the right who think that not wanting to kill innocent civilians (because the President thinks it'll be fun) is 'supporting the tur'rists' are the fascists.
I'm in, if you guys can make change for an Ada and a COBOL.
Actually, I thought it was Adam and Lilith, but hey, I read too much or something.
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Can you imagine the international outcry that an aggressive attack on Switzerland would ignite? You'd have to be superpower level to be able to get away with it, maybe not even then.
INSIGHTFUL! (literal)LOL I've wanted to be able to moderate moderations before, but that's the funniest thing I've seen on slashdot in weeks.
Heh, actually the plan would be complete by having Canadian Robot Overlords both being welcomed by slashdotters and overseeing the Canadian Robot Manipulator hoards' reproduction/taking over the universe/???/profit functions.
See, it's like a car, you have to have an ECM (in this case, the Canadian Robot Overlords) to coordinate the rest of the complex machinery. But that kind of thing is only likely in Soviet Russia, where Canadians make fun of YOU.
It's not a first post, and there's no goatse, but nonetheless I think I just won slashdot. I hope I unlocked some minigames or something.
So your saying that both of those people are hovering around 2.6 or so?
Sylvester Stalone forcing Rob Schneider to show him how the shells work for the 6th time, now that would be comedy.