The problem is motivation. A lot of us are maliciously motivated. Even if some of us take that energy and use it in a non-malicious way.
Some of us often break into a system, with entirely malicious motivations. But, once we do, we don't break or steal anything, because the drive is gone (if I could delete files owned by another user, as my user, through a hole, I'd be more likely to do so, than once I gained root.. there's no fun in removing files you have permission to remove, you know that's possible and just knowing makes it boring). It's kind of like wishing for a special power, getting it and then being bored. Usually, you'll move on to the next thing. The harder someone tries to keep me out, the more I want to break in. Often, it's sign of a sociopath. They enjoy showing them that spending a huge sum of money will not solve the problem.
I don't mind someone breaking into my house, if they don't break or steal anything. However, I'm also likely to react violently to their intrusion, if I'm home.
Personally, I'm with the guy above. The hacker in me wants to applaud his balls. But, the rest of me just wants to say "You asked for it." But, he shouldn't be tried on trumped up charges either. I wouldn't worry about most of them, when they first arrest you (in the US), they'll just throw everything they can think of. No matter how redundant or retarded the charges are. There's many reasons for this. First and foremost, it pushes you bail way higher (even though the prosecuting attorney is going to drop nearly all of it). Second, they like to act like every arrest is making the community a safer place. The cop arrests a kid for a DUI, he'll throw him, minor in possession of alcohol, public drunk, reckless driving, DUI, etc.. But the attorney is probably just going to press the DUI issue, get the kid scared, so he pleas out to a lesser charge or takes a lesser sentence than the maximum.
But, I also like to refer to being in jail as being held against my will. Bail and bond as ransom and bribe, etc.. They kidnap you off the street, take away everything you have, including your freedom and demand a ransom from your friends and loved ones for your temporary release. Then they'll proceed to mentally terrorize you, for the next few months, until your case is finally over (6+ months down the road, if you get a "speedy" trial, imagine if you didn't bail out. You spend all that time in jail. Of course you're going to plead guilty.).
As someone who would've been classified as a "punk" in high school (and 8 years later, I still listen to the same shit, have even more tattoos, yet no piercings), I can agree. I used to have a lot of fun backing up kids that I didn't even know. The jocks, preps, etc.. other bully types (not going to say that punkers don't bully) had no idea that I played hockey, skateboarded and boxed. It was fun times to bully the bully. I even got jumped for dating one of the cheerleaders (I guess she liked the "bad boy" type), she eventually left me, when I wouldn't change for her. I kept laughing and asking "What is this, some kind of bad interpretation of those movies where the popular chick takes an unpopular chick and gives her a make over?"
Anyway, we'd let anyone hang out with us and be nice to them (until we were familiar with them). Once you're in the "friend zone", expect to be made fun of relentlessly. Don't be afraid to sling verbal feces right back though.
Holy shit, you sound like an American. You fuckin' yankee douche bag. I live here and I can't stand the vast majority of my so-called "kin". Where are you from? Wanna trade? You'd fit in well. Just learn to thoughtlessly bash Mexicans and jokingly make fun of Canada. Drive a hybrid car, after you have 3 kids and call yourself "eco-friendly".
Put it this way, I can't stand democrats or republicans. I don't even believe in democracy (especially not one run by businessmen and lawyers). It's my belief that any system of government is as flawed as the next, in it's own way. You could have a monarchy and you could be just as "free" as anyone else, if you had a decent leader that actually gave a fuck.
Fuck BP, Halliburton, Bush, Obama, Transocean and especially, you.
There are cases of Immigrant smuggling where the drivers were juveniles because juveniles are much more difficult to prosecute.
That's how I'd operate if I were a fraudster - have the kids to the dirty work and give them a cut. There are hordes of bored shithead suburban kids who would love to be "elite haxxors" and they would most likely avoid prosecution the first time.
I can deal with that, it's fair and doesn't really stomp on anyone's feet. So what if users eat up all the available bandwidth? Just make it fair who eats up more than others.
It's not fair, because the problem is NOT the p2p users. The problem is the oversubscribed. It's their problem, not their users'. They're just pushing the charges to fix it onto you, by fucking with those of us that use the FULL service, that we pay for.
I'm not that pissed about it, I'm an American. So, I'm used to getting pissed on and sometimes even shit on, by just about every single utility and government agency we have (DMV). And people call us capitalist [pssshh]. The average American wouldn't know capitalism from facism, and I bet certain people are counting on that. (No, not Comcast, they're probably impartial to capitalism and facism).
In short: They didn't stop fucking you, they just applied some lube. But, only for certain customers, the rest of us will still be getting the "raw end" of the deal.
Being that he goes by 'Witlog' either he's too young to disclose or they still don't know who he is. Either way, I'd like to point out that, though he may or may not cover his tracks well, "they break into thousands of PCs" is kind of inaccurate being that most of these DDoS bots automate the process of taking control of a machine. Most people that run these botnets don't know anything beyond compiling the bot and filling out a configuration file.
And they certainly don't deserve recognition...neither would a defacer[political or not]. I swear, "hackers" or "crackers" whatever you may prefer to call them, used to have more taste, pre-2000. Even the defacements used to carry more meaning...now it just seems like IRC channel wars, just at a new level...IRC server wars. Pretty dumb when it gets down to it.
Nintendo has a good track record of being a phenomenal gaming company. They invented the first of many types of games you see today. Even if you don't like them, you should thank them. My personaly opinion on the failure of the 64 and Cube is that their target audience was too low. They were making "kiddie" games like windwaker while the "kiddies" wanted to run around a city stealing cars, selling drugs and murdering civilians. I think with the 'Revolution' Nintendo is getting back on the right track, it's also my opinion that the Nintendo 'Revolution' and the Sony PS3 are going to put Microsoft's XBox 360 in a tough position. Microsoft doesn't have any games that are xbox-only that rock, spare Halo.
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The problem is motivation. A lot of us are maliciously motivated. Even if some of us take that energy and use it in a non-malicious way.
Some of us often break into a system, with entirely malicious motivations. But, once we do, we don't break or steal anything, because the drive is gone (if I could delete files owned by another user, as my user, through a hole, I'd be more likely to do so, than once I gained root.. there's no fun in removing files you have permission to remove, you know that's possible and just knowing makes it boring). It's kind of like wishing for a special power, getting it and then being bored. Usually, you'll move on to the next thing. The harder someone tries to keep me out, the more I want to break in. Often, it's sign of a sociopath. They enjoy showing them that spending a huge sum of money will not solve the problem.
I don't mind someone breaking into my house, if they don't break or steal anything. However, I'm also likely to react violently to their intrusion, if I'm home.
Personally, I'm with the guy above. The hacker in me wants to applaud his balls. But, the rest of me just wants to say "You asked for it." But, he shouldn't be tried on trumped up charges either. I wouldn't worry about most of them, when they first arrest you (in the US), they'll just throw everything they can think of. No matter how redundant or retarded the charges are. There's many reasons for this. First and foremost, it pushes you bail way higher (even though the prosecuting attorney is going to drop nearly all of it). Second, they like to act like every arrest is making the community a safer place. The cop arrests a kid for a DUI, he'll throw him, minor in possession of alcohol, public drunk, reckless driving, DUI, etc.. But the attorney is probably just going to press the DUI issue, get the kid scared, so he pleas out to a lesser charge or takes a lesser sentence than the maximum.
But, I also like to refer to being in jail as being held against my will. Bail and bond as ransom and bribe, etc.. They kidnap you off the street, take away everything you have, including your freedom and demand a ransom from your friends and loved ones for your temporary release. Then they'll proceed to mentally terrorize you, for the next few months, until your case is finally over (6+ months down the road, if you get a "speedy" trial, imagine if you didn't bail out. You spend all that time in jail. Of course you're going to plead guilty.).
As someone who would've been classified as a "punk" in high school (and 8 years later, I still listen to the same shit, have even more tattoos, yet no piercings), I can agree. I used to have a lot of fun backing up kids that I didn't even know. The jocks, preps, etc.. other bully types (not going to say that punkers don't bully) had no idea that I played hockey, skateboarded and boxed. It was fun times to bully the bully. I even got jumped for dating one of the cheerleaders (I guess she liked the "bad boy" type), she eventually left me, when I wouldn't change for her. I kept laughing and asking "What is this, some kind of bad interpretation of those movies where the popular chick takes an unpopular chick and gives her a make over?"
Anyway, we'd let anyone hang out with us and be nice to them (until we were familiar with them). Once you're in the "friend zone", expect to be made fun of relentlessly. Don't be afraid to sling verbal feces right back though.
Holy shit, you sound like an American. You fuckin' yankee douche bag. I live here and I can't stand the vast majority of my so-called "kin". Where are you from? Wanna trade? You'd fit in well. Just learn to thoughtlessly bash Mexicans and jokingly make fun of Canada. Drive a hybrid car, after you have 3 kids and call yourself "eco-friendly".
Put it this way, I can't stand democrats or republicans. I don't even believe in democracy (especially not one run by businessmen and lawyers). It's my belief that any system of government is as flawed as the next, in it's own way. You could have a monarchy and you could be just as "free" as anyone else, if you had a decent leader that actually gave a fuck.
Fuck BP, Halliburton, Bush, Obama, Transocean and especially, you.
There are cases of Immigrant smuggling where the drivers were juveniles because juveniles are much more difficult to prosecute. That's how I'd operate if I were a fraudster - have the kids to the dirty work and give them a cut. There are hordes of bored shithead suburban kids who would love to be "elite haxxors" and they would most likely avoid prosecution the first time.
Especially if they rat you out.
Which is, some how, a good excuse and a reason to let them off the hook, right?
I can deal with that, it's fair and doesn't really stomp on anyone's feet. So what if users eat up all the available bandwidth? Just make it fair who eats up more than others.
It's not fair, because the problem is NOT the p2p users. The problem is the oversubscribed. It's their problem, not their users'. They're just pushing the charges to fix it onto you, by fucking with those of us that use the FULL service, that we pay for.
I'm not that pissed about it, I'm an American. So, I'm used to getting pissed on and sometimes even shit on, by just about every single utility and government agency we have (DMV). And people call us capitalist [pssshh]. The average American wouldn't know capitalism from facism, and I bet certain people are counting on that. (No, not Comcast, they're probably impartial to capitalism and facism).
In short: They didn't stop fucking you, they just applied some lube. But, only for certain customers, the rest of us will still be getting the "raw end" of the deal.
One of the pages that reads from the owned DB: hxxp://bwnt.businessweek.com/recruiting/index.asp?f=M
RBN > BusinessWeek?
Also, did anyone notice how close the subdomain is to 'pwnt'?
It seems that American's are, indeed, no longer anything like their forefathers that they speak so highly of.
Being that he goes by 'Witlog' either he's too young to disclose or they still don't know who he is. Either way, I'd like to point out that, though he may or may not cover his tracks well, "they break into thousands of PCs" is kind of inaccurate being that most of these DDoS bots automate the process of taking control of a machine. Most people that run these botnets don't know anything beyond compiling the bot and filling out a configuration file.
And they certainly don't deserve recognition...neither would a defacer[political or not]. I swear, "hackers" or "crackers" whatever you may prefer to call them, used to have more taste, pre-2000. Even the defacements used to carry more meaning...now it just seems like IRC channel wars, just at a new level...IRC server wars. Pretty dumb when it gets down to it.
Didn't Microsoft try to buyout Nintendo a while ago and get spit on?
Nintendo has a good track record of being a phenomenal gaming company. They invented the first of many types of games you see today. Even if you don't like them, you should thank them. My personaly opinion on the failure of the 64 and Cube is that their target audience was too low. They were making "kiddie" games like windwaker while the "kiddies" wanted to run around a city stealing cars, selling drugs and murdering civilians. I think with the 'Revolution' Nintendo is getting back on the right track, it's also my opinion that the Nintendo 'Revolution' and the Sony PS3 are going to put Microsoft's XBox 360 in a tough position. Microsoft doesn't have any games that are xbox-only that rock, spare Halo.