Will there be micro or flex ATX versions?
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nForce2 Preview
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The current nForce is available in small form factor mobos like the Abit NV7M. I'd be very interested in a tiny version of nForce2.
If you plan to use TwinBank (6GB/sec system bandwidth!) you only need/want two DIMM slots. With video, audio, network, firewire, usb2, etc, all built-in, you hardly need the PCI slots at all.
Fewer components should also mean lower power consumption, which means fewer/slower fans, which means blissful quiet computing. Hopefully.
yes, Yes, YES! It is really annoying as hell to see mighty Google getting bombed like this. There's a Hacker Sith Lord out there laughing at us.
If you see this happening in a search result that you care about, please report it either by email (search-quality at google) or by web form.
Here's some of the sites I've seen that are abusing cross-linking to spam Google:
costa-dorada.net e-bevs.com elevenacceleration.c om ije-ir.org ims-corp.com indonesiahelp.com i ndowebdesign.com kluthe.net laserprintersbymte.c om makingmusic.net myownpoll.com ocean-press.co m onesmack.com
I'm glad FreeCraft has been ported, but I don't have the time or the reflexes to play RTS games. I'm more interested in TBS and RPG.
One of the most active projects on SourceForge is Arianne RPG. There was a Mac version a while ago, but the last binary release was over a year ago, and it's recently been dropped from the download list.
I doubt that Arianne compares favorably to Neverwinter, but OTOH it would probably run on a PowerBook (like mine) with Rage 128 graphics...
Yeah, the return of the Cube would be a real coup, if the price were down near $1000 this time. The Switch campaign might be tugging at some hearts and minds, but it hits a brick wall where the wallet is concerned.
price drop and/or 17" LCD on the iMac. The fascination has worn off; it's too expensive for a low-mid consumer PC.
DDR in the PowerMac. Whatever problems Motorola has in the megahertz department, memory bandwidth is the real limiting factor right now.
a cheap expandable desktop, aka the PowerMac G4 LC. I need a new home machine this fall, and I can't afford $1300 for a base-model G4.
the forged From: line makes all the difference
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Klez: a closer look
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Klez is not really such a smart virus, compared to some of the earlier Outlook scripts that would grab a real document off the luser's HD and send it. The thing that makes it a major PITA is the forgery.
The only way to track down a Klez sender is to follow the Received: headers back to the ISP, and ask them to search their RADIUS &/or DHCP logs to figure out which user was at that address at the time the message was sent. Most ISP's that I've contacted would rather not bother, so the infected PCs remain blissfully ignorant.
Alternately, the ISP could require authenticated SMTP, and attach the real user ID to every message in some way. Or install a virus filter on the outbound connection. But once again, they don't want to bother. It's the tragedy of the commons.
Re:Could we talk about actual small-footprint PCs?
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Shuttle SS40. It's a pretty sexy and silent little box
Yes, that looks like a very promising design. Hopefully they'll release an AGP version soon.
get the fastest Powerbook G4 you can afford
That would be "none at all".:-( My budget is absolutely under $1000, and I need fast 3D.
Could we talk about actual small-footprint PCs?
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The original questioner is obviously unclear about what he wants (answer: rackmount servers, probably blades, which don't really have a footprint at all). But since the title of the topic is "Small Footprint PCs?", could we have some discussion of that?
Assuming Apple doesn't release a cheap expandable desktop (aka the PowerMac LC) at MWNY this month, I'm leaning towards building a micro ATX Athlon/NForce box in the fall. I've been investigating on NewEgg, Googlegear, Anandtech, etc, and apparently mATX cases are significantly more expensive than ordinary ATX midtowers. Very disappointing.
What would you recommend for a low-cost, decent-performance, hopefully-low-power/noise box that's under 1700 cubic inches?
With current technology [...] it is impossible for a computer to prove it.
No. It has been theoretically possible for computers to solve mathematical proofs ever since the first Turing-esque computers (the only missing element being "infinite" storage capacity) were built. And if a proof of Riemann requires more than a terabyte of statements and reasoning, then it's also beyond the capabilities of human mathematicians.
I know that somebody is researching some theorem-proving capable AI, but it seems that they didn't succeed yet in proving whether it can exist or not
Four rounds of play means they are also doing the "mirror match" contests of AMD Fritz vs Intel Fritz and AMD Shredder vs Intel Shredder. Those two will be purer benchmarks, since it eliminates the program differences.
It seems pretty likely that Apple is planning to end their exclusive Sorenson license soon, and switch to using MPEG-4:
Apple developed its own ISO-compliant MPEG-4 video codec to provide the highest quality results across a wide spectrum of data rates - from narrowband to broadband and beyond. This revolutionary codec offers compression times and video quality that rival those of the best proprietary codecs available, yet it provides true interoperability with other MPEG-4 players and devices.
That would be huge good news for consumers everywhere (assuming MPEG-LA gives up on the per-minute fee).
Neither Squishdot nor Slash meet this guy's needs. He specifically said it's not a community/news site, it's 99% static pages of long-term informational content.
I'm really glad this topic came up, because my site needs the exact same thing. Zope CMF sounds promising, if it can output static html.
Umm... what Mac virus are you talking about? There isn't a damn thing in the wild right now except a few platform-independent Word macro bugs. Too bad for them that I can open Word files in AppleWorks and avoid macros entirely.
I own Norton AV but run my Mac without AutoProtect. I've never found a virus during my manual scans (except for some spare copies of Sircam, Nimda, etc, that I keep for educational purposes).
This is bad news by any reasonable definition. Note that the official FAQ still says "we are planning a simultaneous PC/Macintosh/Linux release for Neverwinter Nights, with all three versions to be included in a single box."
Also note that Macsoft expects it will take them two months to finish the Mac version, not including the toolset. No clue how long the toolset would take if they decide to port it at all. Third, note that Bioware has never released a single Mac (or Linux) demo appliction, or even a screenshot of a partial prototype.
For comparison, other porting houses like OmniGroup and Westlake can plow through an entire port, starting from raw Windows-only DirectX-based source code, and turn out a complete Mac game in the same amount of time.
The obvious conclusion is that Bioware has spent the past three years working solely on the Windows version, and their claims about parallel simultaneous development were a crock.
1999: Dungeon Masters moderating online games will be able to create their own scenarios using BioWare's Solstice Toolset.
2000: From the very start of our development cycle, we have been designing Neverwinter Nights not only to be multiplatform but also to be fully interoperable between the different OS versions," says Oster. "We want a Be OS player and her Windows friend to be able to play together on a Mac server under the guidance of a Linux-based dungeon master.
2000: Neverwinter Nights will support the Windows, Mac, Linux, and the ever-popular BeOS operating systems, and all versions will be completely interoperable.
2001: * The powerful and user-friendly Neverwinter Aurora Toolset allows players to create entirely new adventures, campaigns, and worlds of their own devising. The toolset is a major features of the title and will receive full post-product support. * Single-box release across multiple Operating Systems (Windows, Linux, Macintosh and BeOS). All versions will be fully interoperable.
2001: So the big question in everyone's minds seems to be "Why did you wait this long to tell us that the toolset is Windows-only?" That's a fair question and the honest answer is that we didn't know, we still don't know. [...] The truth is that we want our toolset to be available on all platforms.
2002 (right now): We are planning a simultaneous PC/Macintosh/Linux release for Neverwinter Nights, with all three versions to be included in a single box.
Indeed, the Mac announcement came out on the 12th. Here's Marketroid to English translation:
"You know that stuff we said about parallel simultaneous development on all platforms? We were totally lying. We spent the whole time making the Windows version. We think we can port it to Linux pretty quickly, but the boxes that Apple sent us are still unopened in the storeroom. We'll pass them to Macsoft along with a couple source code folders."
whether or not NWN will be available for Mac OS X or just Mac OS 8/9
I thought it was going to be OS X only. Of course, I also thought it was going to be triple-compatible in the box, including the toolset.
I get the feeling that it just isn't ready yet.
I get the feeling that Bioware has been flat out lying about even working on a Mac version in the first place. Do we have any evidence that it exists at all? I have been drooling about NWN for the past 2 years, and it's all turning to crap.
Kenja, you're going to have to back up that blanket assertion with some data. The most commonly-used sites that I know (Yahoo, CNN, Amazon) all use CSS, and little or no IE-specific code.
Hmm... exactly what tags are you talking about? Where might I have seen these things, other than at frontpagefordummies.com ?
1. Image alignment. Seems to not support the Align=AbsMiddle property of an image tag.
2. Lacks support for IE style layers. Its too much to expect web site devlopers to use more then one layer type. Its time to bite the bullet and support the MS style.
Yep. Gecko also doesn't support topmargin, marquee, and a gazillion other proprietary tags and attributes. Isn't that just awful?
Yep again. I expect web developers to support one (and only one) style system. It's time for you to bite the bullet and learn CSS.
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now i'm just pricing some G4s.
Do not buy a PowerMac until the new models come out -- either in mid August or early September.
The current nForce is available in small form factor mobos like the Abit NV7M. I'd be very interested in a tiny version of nForce2.
If you plan to use TwinBank (6GB/sec system bandwidth!) you only need/want two DIMM slots. With video, audio, network, firewire, usb2, etc, all built-in, you hardly need the PCI slots at all.
Fewer components should also mean lower power consumption, which means fewer/slower fans, which means blissful quiet computing. Hopefully.
Also, any word on the rumored Shuttle SS41 yet?
yes, Yes, YES! It is really annoying as hell to see mighty Google getting bombed like this. There's a Hacker Sith Lord out there laughing at us.
c om
i ndowebdesign.comc omo m
If you see this happening in a search result that you care about, please report it either by email (search-quality at google) or by web form.
Here's some of the sites I've seen that are abusing cross-linking to spam Google:
costa-dorada.net
e-bevs.com
elevenacceleration.
ije-ir.org
ims-corp.com
indonesiahelp.com
kluthe.net
laserprintersbymte.
makingmusic.net
myownpoll.com
ocean-press.c
onesmack.com
Whoops. Slashdot just posted a whole separate article about Arianne which mentions the current lack of a Mac version. I'll go read that now.
I'm glad FreeCraft has been ported, but I don't have the time or the reflexes to play RTS games. I'm more interested in TBS and RPG.
One of the most active projects on SourceForge is Arianne RPG. There was a Mac version a while ago, but the last binary release was over a year ago, and it's recently been dropped from the download list.
I doubt that Arianne compares favorably to Neverwinter, but OTOH it would probably run on a PowerBook (like mine) with Rage 128 graphics...
Yeah, the return of the Cube would be a real coup, if the price were down near $1000 this time. The Switch campaign might be tugging at some hearts and minds, but it hits a brick wall where the wallet is concerned.
There are 3 things I want to see at the keynote this year:Klez is not really such a smart virus, compared to some of the earlier Outlook scripts that would grab a real document off the luser's HD and send it. The thing that makes it a major PITA is the forgery.
The only way to track down a Klez sender is to follow the Received: headers back to the ISP, and ask them to search their RADIUS &/or DHCP logs to figure out which user was at that address at the time the message was sent. Most ISP's that I've contacted would rather not bother, so the infected PCs remain blissfully ignorant.
Alternately, the ISP could require authenticated SMTP, and attach the real user ID to every message in some way. Or install a virus filter on the outbound connection. But once again, they don't want to bother. It's the tragedy of the commons.
Shuttle SS40. It's a pretty sexy and silent little box
:-( My budget is absolutely under $1000, and I need fast 3D.
Yes, that looks like a very promising design. Hopefully they'll release an AGP version soon.
get the fastest Powerbook G4 you can afford
That would be "none at all".
The original questioner is obviously unclear about what he wants (answer: rackmount servers, probably blades, which don't really have a footprint at all). But since the title of the topic is "Small Footprint PCs?", could we have some discussion of that?
Assuming Apple doesn't release a cheap expandable desktop (aka the PowerMac LC) at MWNY this month, I'm leaning towards building a micro ATX Athlon/NForce box in the fall. I've been investigating on NewEgg, Googlegear, Anandtech, etc, and apparently mATX cases are significantly more expensive than ordinary ATX midtowers. Very disappointing.
What would you recommend for a low-cost, decent-performance, hopefully-low-power/noise box that's under 1700 cubic inches?
With current technology [...] it is impossible for a computer to prove it.
No. It has been theoretically possible for computers to solve mathematical proofs ever since the first Turing-esque computers (the only missing element being "infinite" storage capacity) were built. And if a proof of Riemann requires more than a terabyte of statements and reasoning, then it's also beyond the capabilities of human mathematicians.
I know that somebody is researching some theorem-proving capable AI, but it seems that they didn't succeed yet in proving whether it can exist or not
They can exist, and people are working on them.
http://nwvault.ign.com/features/previews/Asgard Trailers.shtml
I've tried it using every codec and video player I could find. Is WiMP on a PC the only thing that works?
Four rounds of play means they are also doing the "mirror match" contests of AMD Fritz vs Intel Fritz and AMD Shredder vs Intel Shredder. Those two will be purer benchmarks, since it eliminates the program differences.
That would be huge good news for consumers everywhere (assuming MPEG-LA gives up on the per-minute fee).
Neither Squishdot nor Slash meet this guy's needs. He specifically said it's not a community/news site, it's 99% static pages of long-term informational content.
I'm really glad this topic came up, because my site needs the exact same thing. Zope CMF sounds promising, if it can output static html.
I've never used (or heard of) KJS until this article. What's so great about it?
FWIW, I've used ordinary javascript, and also the OSA. Any relation?
unless you're using a Mac. Oops.
Umm... what Mac virus are you talking about? There isn't a damn thing in the wild right now except a few platform-independent Word macro bugs. Too bad for them that I can open Word files in AppleWorks and avoid macros entirely.
I own Norton AV but run my Mac without AutoProtect. I've never found a virus during my manual scans (except for some spare copies of Sircam, Nimda, etc, that I keep for educational purposes).
This is bad news by any reasonable definition. Note that the official FAQ still says "we are planning a simultaneous PC/Macintosh/Linux release for Neverwinter Nights, with all three versions to be included in a single box."
Also note that Macsoft expects it will take them two months to finish the Mac version, not including the toolset. No clue how long the toolset would take if they decide to port it at all. Third, note that Bioware has never released a single Mac (or Linux) demo appliction, or even a screenshot of a partial prototype.
For comparison, other porting houses like OmniGroup and Westlake can plow through an entire port, starting from raw Windows-only DirectX-based source code, and turn out a complete Mac game in the same amount of time.
The obvious conclusion is that Bioware has spent the past three years working solely on the Windows version, and their claims about parallel simultaneous development were a crock.
Totally patently FALSE. Here's some references:
whether or not NWN will be available for Mac OS X or just Mac OS 8/9
I thought it was going to be OS X only. Of course, I also thought it was going to be triple-compatible in the box, including the toolset.
I get the feeling that it just isn't ready yet.
I get the feeling that Bioware has been flat out lying about even working on a Mac version in the first place. Do we have any evidence that it exists at all? I have been drooling about NWN for the past 2 years, and it's all turning to crap.
Anyone with OS 9 or X can sign up at itools.mac.com. It will ask you to install the iTools plugin and create a username.
No need to license. If Apple wants to use technology identical to ClearType, they already own a patent on it.
most website devlopers use IE layer tags
Kenja, you're going to have to back up that blanket assertion with some data. The most commonly-used sites that I know (Yahoo, CNN, Amazon) all use CSS, and little or no IE-specific code.
Hmm... exactly what tags are you talking about? Where might I have seen these things, other than at frontpagefordummies.com ?
Rapidsite/Apa/1.3.20 could be some bastardized version of Apache
There's no "could be" about it. Remember folks, Google makes all computing simple.