The good news is that NWN will ship with Windows, OSX, and Linux86 installers for Players and DMs on the same CD. The bad news is that the world creation tools are Windows only.
4.01 I've heard that the Aurora Neverwinter Toolset will be Windows only. What's the deal?
Our initial goal was to create a cross platform toolset for the gaming community. However, we have encountered difficulty in obtaining a viable cross platform solution to assist us in porting the Aurora Neverwinter Toolset. While we would not like to rule out the possibility of a port to the various operating systems at some point, this won't be happening for the initial release.
The real answer is that they created the Toolset in the first place using a Windows-only system, rather than the cross-platform environment they used to write the actual game. They've never explained why.
Zentec, your post seems to be a moderately well-constructed troll. The only problem you mentioned in specific is that HFS file systems are case preserving but insensitive, and there's a trivial solution to that.
Apple's RAM is always overpriced, just like most OEMs. So you buy extra RAM 3rd party, as usual.
IDE just as fast as SCSI my ass
True, but Ultra3 is an obvious expansion option.
No expansion slots. The second gigabit network card takes up the only PCI slot
I'm not sure where you got that idea. The press release says: "three PCI slots, two of which are 64-bit, 66 MHz". I have no clue how they fit 3 PCIs and 4 bays into a 1U box, but I sure am glad.
miss interpretation of the religion clause. saying a child can not pray in school
Umm...could you post a link to a court filing and/or reputable news article about such a case?
School prayer cases are about authority figures encouraging or leading prayer in front of a group. That's a level of coercion not at all the same as student praying on their own.
There is a workaround: edit your permissions file manually to block (or enable if you want) rcm-images.amazon.com, which is the site that sends the malformed javascripted image code which causes the crash.
Not really. Pipelining has been sitting in Preferences --> Advanced --> HTTP since at least 0.9.8 (that's when I started using it). Pipelining definitely speeds things up, but it's a little bit buggy, which is why it's disabled by default.
is an iBook with no video acceleration going to be able to keep up with OS X?
Agreed, requiring 32MB of VRAM is ridiculous. There are exactly two features I wanted out of 10.2:
Speed (by way of refactored Darwin and GCC 3)
Speed (by way of hardware accelerated Quartz)
Quartz Extreme is a Soup Nazi scenario. "No speed boost for you!" Okay Steve, here's a deal -- you make a 32MB Radeon upgrade for my Pismo, and I'll stop supporting the Wallstreet lawsuit.
how hypocritical slashdot visitors are when it comes to Microsoft vs how much they praise Apple/Linux/Whoever for the same thing
No. I'm a rabid Mac addict. Nevertheless, Apple's current behavior would be totally unacceptable if they were in charge. But. They're. Not. And that makes all the difference in the world.
If Apple and Microsoft magically traded places, and Steve Jobs controlled 90% of the computer industry, the world would be much worse off. Lord Steve is a brilliant visionary, but he's also a vicious tyrant (when he gets the chance to do so). Imagine the alternate universe from Treehouse of Horror where Ned Flanders ruled the world. It would be like that, only with lickable widgets.
Restatement: the rules are supposed to be different for a convicted monopolist.
Until OS X has a tool comparable to FinderPop, it is not strictly superior to OS 9. It's that simple.
p.s. Navigation in the OS X file dialog is freaking miserable. What are the keyboard shortcuts? AFAICT, any key other than Tab or Return is linked to the command "jump to random location that the user doesn't want".
OS 8 was going to be OS 7.7 but Apple decided to call it OS 8. There were not that many changes.
While 8.0 was mainly just 7.6 with a Platinum facelift, OS 8.1 (free update) was a big jump. HFS+, control click, etc.
When Lord Steve first announced Carbon, he promised that Carbon apps would run on 8.1 (and that any G3 would be fully supported in OS X). Yeah, he distorted reality to the point of falsehood. But 8.1 can run the handful of Carbon 1.0x applications that exist.
How much would it cost W'mart to sell these machines with a pre-loaded Linux image?
I bet it would cost them even less (and be more likely to happen) if a reputable Linux distro volunteered to compile the custom build, do QA testing, and create the master HD image for them. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
except for biodiesl, diesel engines do nothing about our dependence on foreign oil.
Except that TDIs have mad crazy gas mileage. An increase of 3mpg in the average US fuel economy would be equivalent to the oil we currently get from Iraq, or the oil we could get from ANWR. And if the average US car got 40mpg (TDIs get 40-50) the fuel saved equals all the oil we buy from the entire middle east.
I agree that current diesels are sooty. It's unfortunate that the trucking industry has been so good at lobbying congress to block standards for cleaner diesel (older truck engines can't handle low-sulfur fuel).
Mac port programmers are some brilliant folk. They've done amazing reverse-engineering. But there's one piece of DirectX they still haven't solved, and it's not in Coderus MacDX.
Good for you. I'll put a gold star on your forehead. Of course, if you had read the article instead of watching DBZ mpegs, you would know that Nielsen was studying 6 to 12 year olds.
According to Nielsen, adults are less likely to read the instructions than kids are. Guess you're growing up, Veggie boy.:-)
They did not take enough samples. They should go test several THOUSAND children
You apparently know jack shit about real statistical methods. It was solidly proven ages ago that you can generate conclusions about a city/region/nation/planet with 95+% confidence from appropriate samples (random) of only a few hundred people.
70ish children is entirely sufficient to draw general observations if you picked them properly.
OmniWeb is pretty, but it doesn't do lots of things that a real v6 browser should handle. Read the last two paragraphs of the WASP recommendations. Here's an excerpt:
Omniweb has been much praised for its elegant interface and superb antialiasing of text, and its support for Unicode and international character sets is unparalleled (only Mozilla comes close).
Unfortunately, Omniweb's support for important web standards like CSS1 and the DOM is so poor as to make it unusable.
If you want elegance and superb antialiasing and standards compliance, consider Chimera.
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The status now is the same as it was two years ago.
The good news is that NWN will ship with Windows, OSX, and Linux86 installers for Players and DMs on the same CD. The bad news is that the world creation tools are Windows only.
See also: Bioware's NWN FAQ:
The real answer is that they created the Toolset in the first place using a Windows-only system, rather than the cross-platform environment they used to write the actual game. They've never explained why.
Yum, that's some tasty flamebait, Jedediah.
The peculiarities of OSX make me shudder
Zentec, your post seems to be a moderately well-constructed troll. The only problem you mentioned in specific is that HFS file systems are case preserving but insensitive, and there's a trivial solution to that.
Not sure I'd want to run a webserver on OSX.
You mean like this?
1000$ for an extra 256megs of Apple blessed DDR
Apple's RAM is always overpriced, just like most OEMs. So you buy extra RAM 3rd party, as usual.
IDE just as fast as SCSI my ass
True, but Ultra3 is an obvious expansion option.
No expansion slots. The second gigabit network card takes up the only PCI slot
I'm not sure where you got that idea. The press release says: "three PCI slots, two of which are 64-bit, 66 MHz". I have no clue how they fit 3 PCIs and 4 bays into a 1U box, but I sure am glad.
Right away I found one possibility in Flash MX:
What happens if you crack a router and spoof Macromedia?
miss interpretation of the religion clause. saying a child can not pray in school
Umm...could you post a link to a court filing and/or reputable news article about such a case?
School prayer cases are about authority figures encouraging or leading prayer in front of a group. That's a level of coercion not at all the same as student praying on their own.
Here's some links for you.
Is anyone else using the same image acceptance settings and seeing anything similar?
6
Ah, my old pal the rcm-images freeze. Bugzilla is an awesomely useful community service -- see http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10780
There is a workaround: edit your permissions file manually to block (or enable if you want) rcm-images.amazon.com, which is the site that sends the malformed javascripted image code which causes the crash.
New stuff include support for "HTTP pipelining"
Not really. Pipelining has been sitting in Preferences --> Advanced --> HTTP since at least 0.9.8 (that's when I started using it). Pipelining definitely speeds things up, but it's a little bit buggy, which is why it's disabled by default.
What is your source for this information? Here's a few folks who disagree with you:
Agreed, requiring 32MB of VRAM is ridiculous. There are exactly two features I wanted out of 10.2:
Quartz Extreme is a Soup Nazi scenario. "No speed boost for you!" Okay Steve, here's a deal -- you make a 32MB Radeon upgrade for my Pismo, and I'll stop supporting the Wallstreet lawsuit.
how hypocritical slashdot visitors are when it comes to Microsoft vs how much they praise Apple/Linux/Whoever for the same thing
No. I'm a rabid Mac addict. Nevertheless, Apple's current behavior would be totally unacceptable if they were in charge. But. They're. Not. And that makes all the difference in the world.
If Apple and Microsoft magically traded places, and Steve Jobs controlled 90% of the computer industry, the world would be much worse off. Lord Steve is a brilliant visionary, but he's also a vicious tyrant (when he gets the chance to do so). Imagine the alternate universe from Treehouse of Horror where Ned Flanders ruled the world. It would be like that, only with lickable widgets.
Restatement: the rules are supposed to be different for a convicted monopolist.
MacOS X is superior in every way
Until OS X has a tool comparable to FinderPop , it is not strictly superior to OS 9. It's that simple.
p.s. Navigation in the OS X file dialog is freaking miserable. What are the keyboard shortcuts? AFAICT, any key other than Tab or Return is linked to the command "jump to random location that the user doesn't want".
OS 8 was going to be OS 7.7 but Apple decided to call it OS 8. There were not that many changes.
While 8.0 was mainly just 7.6 with a Platinum facelift, OS 8.1 (free update) was a big jump. HFS+, control click, etc.
When Lord Steve first announced Carbon, he promised that Carbon apps would run on 8.1 (and that any G3 would be fully supported in OS X). Yeah, he distorted reality to the point of falsehood. But 8.1 can run the handful of Carbon 1.0x applications that exist.
this is probably apocryphal, but
How some stuff gets to Score: 5, I will never know. Remember folks,
Google makes all computing simple .
isn't Open Source! It's proprietary-with-source
Oh, that must be why ESR's Open Source Initiative says that APSL is an Approved License. Do you see the Microsoft license on that list?
Get your own facts straight.
How much would it cost W'mart to sell these machines with a pre-loaded Linux image?
I bet it would cost them even less (and be more likely to happen) if a reputable Linux distro volunteered to compile the custom build, do QA testing, and create the master HD image for them. Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
no mention of any iPhoto updates
You have an impressively bad sense of timing, johnpg.
My point kinda was that if Windows (for example) screws up your entire companies PC's, you'd have someone to take to court over it
yatest5 obviously has never read the MS EULA screen before clicking OK.
except for biodiesl, diesel engines do nothing about our dependence on foreign oil.
Except that TDIs have mad crazy gas mileage. An increase of 3mpg in the average US fuel economy would be equivalent to the oil we currently get from Iraq, or the oil we could get from ANWR. And if the average US car got 40mpg (TDIs get 40-50) the fuel saved equals all the oil we buy from the entire middle east.
I agree that current diesels are sooty. It's unfortunate that the trucking industry has been so good at lobbying congress to block standards for cleaner diesel (older truck engines can't handle low-sulfur fuel).
Who makes hybrid gas/electric cars right now? Toyota and Honda.
.
Who showed hydrogen concept cars early this year? Ford and GM. When do they expect to be ready for market? 10 years.
Which technology is really better? They're comparable
What did President Bush decide to do? End support for hybrids and spend money on fuel cells instead.
Connect the dots?
Mac port programmers are some brilliant folk. They've done amazing reverse-engineering. But there's one piece of DirectX they still haven't solved, and it's not in Coderus MacDX.
DirectPlay.
If you can't multiplay with 95% of the crowd, you're not getting the complete game experience.
I'm 15. I know an ad when I see it.
:-)
Good for you. I'll put a gold star on your forehead. Of course, if you had read the article instead of watching DBZ mpegs, you would know that Nielsen was studying 6 to 12 year olds.
According to Nielsen, adults are less likely to read the instructions than kids are. Guess you're growing up, Veggie boy.
They did not take enough samples. They should go test several THOUSAND children
You apparently know jack shit about real statistical methods. It was solidly proven ages ago that you can generate conclusions about a city/region/nation/planet with 95+% confidence from appropriate samples (random) of only a few hundred people.
70ish children is entirely sufficient to draw general observations if you picked them properly.
IE 6.0 for Windows came out last August. Yet Mac users still aren't even at the 5.5
Version numbering is not a fair comparison. The codebases are separate. You may as well say that Windows 2000 is two hundredfold better than OS X.
In fact, large chunks of v6 Win standards rendering is based on v5 Mac, which was the first browser to implement CSS1 99+% correctly.
Yes, there are a couple bonus features in 6 that aren't on Mac. Personally, I can live without the My Pictures folder and the Windows Media sidebar.
I personally use the latest Mozilla as my browser, but IE 5.1 doesn't suck.
If you want elegance and superb antialiasing and standards compliance, consider Chimera.