Legally, there are categories of searches that don't require a warrant.
The plain language 'Secure against... unreasonable searches... no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause' is that a reasonable search requires a warrant. Period. There is not an exception in the Constitution anywhere. They've been invented by people who find the protections embodied in the Constitution inconvenient.
The framers of the Constitution were not distant figures we don't know much about. We have the minutes of the meeting and letters they wrote arguing over the wording of the Constitution. In this case, they thought that saying that (paraphrasing) "any power the federal government wishes that isn't listed here they cannot have" was quite clear and that those who choose to ignore that will do so no matter what words they write. They wrote that it's our duty to stop those people. Some of the other rights are there specifically to empower us to do so. (now discuss why -those- are under attack too)
Californication, instalment #8,720,091. Save gas, save the whales, save the trees, cycle to work - oh wait: you SHARED a vehicle to the airport?! You horrid criminal you!
Also: This very high gas tax is to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient cars. Wait, people bought them? Our gas tax revenue is down??!?!? Extra tax to 'recover' the lost tax. (Why no, the original tax wasn't just about taking money. It was for the children. And the whales.)
Out of interest - anyone know why we've not re-visited thorium?
The US military invested mightily in the current uranium/plutonium nuclear tech. Commercializing a thorium reactor would require another very large investment, one beyond a single utility company.
Even though we strongly suspect thorium would make a better power plant reactor, we won't know that until we complete a substantial part of the research and build a few generations of pilot plants. That's a risk whole governments can bear, but not a single utility.
Politically, the fusion folks have promised 'Clean limitless power real soon now (TM)' for decades, sucking up most power research funding without even producing a working pilot power plant. In 1960/1970 it was not fusion power time. We spent research money very inefficiently trying to force fusion far ahead of the tech curve. We could have had working thorium reactors for far less than we've spent on fusion, giving us much cheaper power. That cheap power would have grown our economy which would have accelerated tech advances and increased the amount of 'spare' economic power available for power research. With that, we'd have a better tech foundation for fusion and would be able to fund it at a higher level.
I think we should fund preliminary thorium power research right now, with plans to shift the majority of fusion funding to thorium if the current large fusion test doesn't work out or goes into 'real soon now stalling' - er I mean delays.
Acting as he did is exactly the right thing to do when the 'system' has been hacked to prevent it from working. While he should be given a medal (and asylum/witness protection), turning himself in to for the punishment the Hoover-like criminals think you deserve for exposing them is reasonable? That's a special breed of insanity you have.
If the law is in violation of the Constitution
This story already has violations of the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th amendments. Are you this apathetic even now? Really?
That's true, but it also means that private firearm ownership is essentially irrelevant.
It doesn't because there are so many more citizens than active duty military, the very reason military occupation isn't a cake walk.
Now, creating a non-military force designed to act against citizens instead of another military force is far more dangerous. Break up the tasks between multiple groups so each doesn't feel they are responsible for the flood. Domestic data gathering from one group, actual spying/snooping from a second (er data analysis), target designation from a third and contact with the enemy - er criminals by a fourth (we didn't do anything wrong, they're criminals we have the papers condemning them right here).
Create intrusive forces that interfere in the private matters of citizens regularly to desensitize them (boil the frog). The TSA would be an example, as it provides no actual security. (and T(odays)-SA right in the name - lol) Add stop and frisk on the street, roadblocks for the drivers, asset forfeiture for anyone with cash. Regularly send the armed non-military force against citizens to desensitize them and foster an 'us vs. them' mentality. Arm them with automatic weapons and grenades, dress them in anonomizing uniforms without name tags that hide their faces. Attack anyone trying to identify members. (photographers are terrorists! but somehow only out gov't abuses? hmm) Don't train them with the ethical and moral standards we instill in our military forces. While the military in the US would be a poor force for oppression current swat team training, practice, equipment and shear numbers seem to be tailor made for it.
Also:
Metadata of VOIP calls, likely the actual voice data too. This may include all digital phone calls, which would be nearly all in the US today. (Tech to greatly compress voice real time to make storage feasible is now mature) Skype also logs URLS usernames and passwords sent in chat connects to those accounts! (first caught via replay attack intrusion detection)
Cell phone control and meta-data. Mandatory GPS in your phone was justified for 911 calls, but is present to provide precise location with targeted call data. Occasionally there are leaks that show the phone location data is logged and apparently transmitted as a matter of course.
From Onstar cases, we know the location data can be silently pulled real time at any time. The microphone can be turned on at any time. The engine can be disabled at any time. It appears smart phones have similar capabilities.
No... you should post it on your own web site with clear copyright information and metadata. That way there is no way any company can claim that they made a reasonable effort to find the owner and couldn't get the information.
Incorrect. In the US right now it's not uncommon for newsrooms to strip metadata and use photography even taken from professionals then claim ignorance or worse that they have a license (from a never specified third party). Corporations stealing photography for advertising, websites and promotional print media is common too.
Media companies own the big stock photography houses. The purpose of this law is to devalue photography for anyone but themselves, and to make sure that perpetual copyright isn't a two edged sword for them. The same legislation has been floated in the US.
Do you seriously live in such a paranoid delusion that you believe that crap?
Are you really so sheltered you haven't personally witnessed 'I don't like the way you look' law enforcement? The variety I see most often is 'Your car looks fast so you must have been speeding sometime, here's your ticket for 10-15 over your actual speed'.
Do you really think annoying them with puffed up story about something they consider trivial will have a better outcome? I hope your first experience with the sad reality is as a witness instead of victim. As a photographer I was lucky that my first experience with actual law enforcement/photographer interaction was as a witness when a professional photographer was beaten bloody for pointing a camera at them while they 'tuned up' someone who refused a search.
I know they offer throw it at the ground shipping. We shipped about a dozen computers and at least half literally had the metal case warped. One had a fork lift tine driven through the box. One of our branch employees saw the UPS delivery driver throwing packages out of the truck onto the concrete. In all cases (include the fork-lift smashed one) UPS denied insurance claims because we didn't pack it well enough.
What makes you think that they weren't working on these 50 patches before DHS suggested that?
Besides all of the security companies revealing that oracles 'quick' security fixes for 0-day exploits were actually for severe problems that had been reported six or eight months prior? Other than that oracle seems to make no repairs unless there's a high margin profit in it or they're facing a PR problem costing actual dollars?
Given that this is oracle, I have more questions. How long have they known about these problems without addressing them. How long have they been falling behind the curve for security updates without adding more resources and how many more severe still unfixed problems are there?
oracle managed to 'Open Office' Java for me. They've so abused their position I can't see ever returning to Java. I've removed it from 60 systems so far, very noticeably reducing the infection rate. These patches are far, far too late.
You haven't upgraded the firmware in your garage door opener?
You're forgetting all of the 'product enhancement' opportunities with selling a defective but update-able product!
There is an active security exploit you better update right away. Thieves are driving through neighborhoods opening garage doors to steal everything right now! Click 'I Agree *' or we'll block your install!
* By installing this update you agree that we can play doubleclick advertisements via the included loudspeaker each time the door is triggered. Your home entry and exist times will be logged and reported to comscore along with your openers registration address. Unless you've bought the Garage door opener XL remote and paid the monthly fee for at least Gold tier service your remote use is ad based. Watching a 30 second ad is required for each door activation, verified via eye detection on the include camera.
I told Facebook to FO when they asked for my number too.
Facebook took my number from a friend's mobile phone's contact list and added it to my profile two weeks later. I never gave it to them. They can die in a fire.
And who is going to pay for this software that is 1000x more expensive?
You mean Larry will have to rehire Sun's QA team and reduce the number of America's cup boats he builds?
His software is more expensive already. It's just that he's not paying. Fixing it as you build is cheaper than fixing it later. Not fixing it at all is most expensive, but he's not paying. It's costing Mom & Pops cash to have their PC cleaned at (worst) Buy, with extra rape charge if you don't want to lose all of your pictures of your grand kids forever.
in the midst of a violent mental health breakdown, I would really appreciate it if the police stopped people from filming me.
The article says he saw the police handling a bloodied man. While shooting the video he wouldn't know the circumstances resulting in the injury. Even now we don't have information about whether the person in the video was bloodied by the police. If he was, that's the exact time video should be rolling. A complete video record is the best defense an honest officer has. People in positions of special trust should be held to a higher standard, and we can start with the 'if you have nothing to hide' trope.
I'm against this becoming (continuing to be..) a tracked/logged/surveillance society where everyone's actions are kept in a permanent file. If we are going down that path though, allowing a privileged class of any kind to operate without scrutiny is extremely harmful. Remember the pre-war on drugs, policing as a town profit center days when most of America could trust the local police? (with the tragic exception of race issues...) Why are we allowing the police to become 'them' instead of requiring them to be 'us' as an employment condition?
Catching terrorists is only the ostensible purpose of the TSA. The real purpose is to keep YOU and your ilk in line.
And now that we've got everyone carrying around personal tracker/informant electronics, it's trivial for leaders of opposition groups to have unfortunate accidents (traffic or otherwise). You really only need to neutralize a very small number if you nip it in the bud. Think what Hoover could do with modern tech! (Read about him lest you think it can't happen here)
FYI: Since the phone GPS initiative, phones can have location, voice and camera data remotely pulled silently. Log and data-mine that for Today's-SA goodness!
Why does a religion that sings 'father, son and holy ghost' when worshiping get away with calling itself monotheistic? How is praying to patron saints monotheistic? It looks like deification from over here.
Lets have an intellectual property tax for registered copyrights based on a percentage of the appraised value of the IP. The percentage is near zero for the first twelve years, then scales logarithmically. The tax is to compensate society for the loss of the freedom to remix and reinvent it's heritage so it must become significant enough that few works remain protected past two generations (40 years). i.e. When you're middle aged the IP of your childhood should enter the public domain.
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Legally, there are categories of searches that don't require a warrant.
The plain language 'Secure against ... unreasonable searches ... no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause' is that a reasonable search requires a warrant. Period. There is not an exception in the Constitution anywhere. They've been invented by people who find the protections embodied in the Constitution inconvenient.
The framers of the Constitution were not distant figures we don't know much about. We have the minutes of the meeting and letters they wrote arguing over the wording of the Constitution. In this case, they thought that saying that (paraphrasing) "any power the federal government wishes that isn't listed here they cannot have" was quite clear and that those who choose to ignore that will do so no matter what words they write. They wrote that it's our duty to stop those people. Some of the other rights are there specifically to empower us to do so. (now discuss why -those- are under attack too)
It's like emailing an 'unsubscribe' message to spammers, and will work as well.
Californication, instalment #8,720,091. Save gas, save the whales, save the trees, cycle to work - oh wait: you SHARED a vehicle to the airport?! You horrid criminal you!
Also: This very high gas tax is to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient cars. Wait, people bought them? Our gas tax revenue is down??!?!? Extra tax to 'recover' the lost tax. (Why no, the original tax wasn't just about taking money. It was for the children. And the whales.)
Most of the coups in Latin America happened with the help of the US government. Do you think the CIA is going to fund a coup in the USA?
Are you trolling for JFK conspiracy 'nuts', or trying to make them sound more credible?
If you want to militarize, you must accept the code of honor that goes with it.
You think that's all they have?
What is the back door for iLO, the HP remote admin for servers? You don't think they'd put one in the storage but leave out the servers do you?
Out of interest - anyone know why we've not re-visited thorium?
The US military invested mightily in the current uranium/plutonium nuclear tech. Commercializing a thorium reactor would require another very large investment, one beyond a single utility company.
Even though we strongly suspect thorium would make a better power plant reactor, we won't know that until we complete a substantial part of the research and build a few generations of pilot plants. That's a risk whole governments can bear, but not a single utility.
Politically, the fusion folks have promised 'Clean limitless power real soon now (TM)' for decades, sucking up most power research funding without even producing a working pilot power plant. In 1960/1970 it was not fusion power time. We spent research money very inefficiently trying to force fusion far ahead of the tech curve. We could have had working thorium reactors for far less than we've spent on fusion, giving us much cheaper power. That cheap power would have grown our economy which would have accelerated tech advances and increased the amount of 'spare' economic power available for power research. With that, we'd have a better tech foundation for fusion and would be able to fund it at a higher level.
I think we should fund preliminary thorium power research right now, with plans to shift the majority of fusion funding to thorium if the current large fusion test doesn't work out or goes into 'real soon now stalling' - er I mean delays.
If the law is in violation of the Constitution
This story already has violations of the 1st, 4th, 9th and 10th amendments. Are you this apathetic even now? Really?
That's true, but it also means that private firearm ownership is essentially irrelevant.
It doesn't because there are so many more citizens than active duty military, the very reason military occupation isn't a cake walk.
Now, creating a non-military force designed to act against citizens instead of another military force is far more dangerous. Break up the tasks between multiple groups so each doesn't feel they are responsible for the flood. Domestic data gathering from one group, actual spying/snooping from a second (er data analysis), target designation from a third and contact with the enemy - er criminals by a fourth (we didn't do anything wrong, they're criminals we have the papers condemning them right here).
Create intrusive forces that interfere in the private matters of citizens regularly to desensitize them (boil the frog). The TSA would be an example, as it provides no actual security. (and T(odays)-SA right in the name - lol) Add stop and frisk on the street, roadblocks for the drivers, asset forfeiture for anyone with cash. Regularly send the armed non-military force against citizens to desensitize them and foster an 'us vs. them' mentality. Arm them with automatic weapons and grenades, dress them in anonomizing uniforms without name tags that hide their faces. Attack anyone trying to identify members. (photographers are terrorists! but somehow only out gov't abuses? hmm) Don't train them with the ethical and moral standards we instill in our military forces. While the military in the US would be a poor force for oppression current swat team training, practice, equipment and shear numbers seem to be tailor made for it.
Also: Metadata of VOIP calls, likely the actual voice data too. This may include all digital phone calls, which would be nearly all in the US today. (Tech to greatly compress voice real time to make storage feasible is now mature) Skype also logs URLS usernames and passwords sent in chat connects to those accounts! (first caught via replay attack intrusion detection)
Cell phone control and meta-data. Mandatory GPS in your phone was justified for 911 calls, but is present to provide precise location with targeted call data. Occasionally there are leaks that show the phone location data is logged and apparently transmitted as a matter of course.
From Onstar cases, we know the location data can be silently pulled real time at any time. The microphone can be turned on at any time. The engine can be disabled at any time. It appears smart phones have similar capabilities.
No... you should post it on your own web site with clear copyright information and metadata. That way there is no way any company can claim that they made a reasonable effort to find the owner and couldn't get the information.
Incorrect. In the US right now it's not uncommon for newsrooms to strip metadata and use photography even taken from professionals then claim ignorance or worse that they have a license (from a never specified third party). Corporations stealing photography for advertising, websites and promotional print media is common too.
Media companies own the big stock photography houses. The purpose of this law is to devalue photography for anyone but themselves, and to make sure that perpetual copyright isn't a two edged sword for them. The same legislation has been floated in the US.
Do you seriously live in such a paranoid delusion that you believe that crap?
Are you really so sheltered you haven't personally witnessed 'I don't like the way you look' law enforcement? The variety I see most often is 'Your car looks fast so you must have been speeding sometime, here's your ticket for 10-15 over your actual speed'.
Do you really think annoying them with puffed up story about something they consider trivial will have a better outcome? I hope your first experience with the sad reality is as a witness instead of victim. As a photographer I was lucky that my first experience with actual law enforcement/photographer interaction was as a witness when a professional photographer was beaten bloody for pointing a camera at them while they 'tuned up' someone who refused a search.
Yep. I totally lost Tristam. Never could find my way back.
That's nothing. I lost Brigadoon!
I thought UPS stood for United Package Smashers.
I know they offer throw it at the ground shipping. We shipped about a dozen computers and at least half literally had the metal case warped. One had a fork lift tine driven through the box. One of our branch employees saw the UPS delivery driver throwing packages out of the truck onto the concrete. In all cases (include the fork-lift smashed one) UPS denied insurance claims because we didn't pack it well enough.
What makes you think that they weren't working on these 50 patches before DHS suggested that?
Besides all of the security companies revealing that oracles 'quick' security fixes for 0-day exploits were actually for severe problems that had been reported six or eight months prior? Other than that oracle seems to make no repairs unless there's a high margin profit in it or they're facing a PR problem costing actual dollars?
Given that this is oracle, I have more questions. How long have they known about these problems without addressing them. How long have they been falling behind the curve for security updates without adding more resources and how many more severe still unfixed problems are there?
oracle managed to 'Open Office' Java for me. They've so abused their position I can't see ever returning to Java. I've removed it from 60 systems so far, very noticeably reducing the infection rate. These patches are far, far too late.
CBS owns CNET, and said, you can't say nice things about someone we're suing!
And CBS released a statement saying 'CNET maintains 100% editorial independence, and always will'
BUT
that's 'in terms of covering actual news,', i.e. only when we say they can.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/14/3874682/exclusive-cbs-forced-cnet-editors-to-recast-vote-after-hopper-win
You're forgetting all of the 'product enhancement' opportunities with selling a defective but update-able product!
There is an active security exploit you better update right away. Thieves are driving through neighborhoods opening garage doors to steal everything right now! Click 'I Agree *' or we'll block your install!
* By installing this update you agree that we can play doubleclick advertisements via the included loudspeaker each time the door is triggered. Your home entry and exist times will be logged and reported to comscore along with your openers registration address. Unless you've bought the Garage door opener XL remote and paid the monthly fee for at least Gold tier service your remote use is ad based. Watching a 30 second ad is required for each door activation, verified via eye detection on the include camera.
Facebook took my number from a friend's mobile phone's contact list and added it to my profile two weeks later. I never gave it to them. They can die in a fire.
And who is going to pay for this software that is 1000x more expensive?
You mean Larry will have to rehire Sun's QA team and reduce the number of America's cup boats he builds?
His software is more expensive already. It's just that he's not paying. Fixing it as you build is cheaper than fixing it later. Not fixing it at all is most expensive, but he's not paying. It's costing Mom & Pops cash to have their PC cleaned at (worst) Buy, with extra rape charge if you don't want to lose all of your pictures of your grand kids forever.
in the midst of a violent mental health breakdown, I would really appreciate it if the police stopped people from filming me.
The article says he saw the police handling a bloodied man. While shooting the video he wouldn't know the circumstances resulting in the injury. Even now we don't have information about whether the person in the video was bloodied by the police. If he was, that's the exact time video should be rolling. A complete video record is the best defense an honest officer has. People in positions of special trust should be held to a higher standard, and we can start with the 'if you have nothing to hide' trope.
I'm against this becoming (continuing to be..) a tracked/logged/surveillance society where everyone's actions are kept in a permanent file. If we are going down that path though, allowing a privileged class of any kind to operate without scrutiny is extremely harmful. Remember the pre-war on drugs, policing as a town profit center days when most of America could trust the local police? (with the tragic exception of race issues...) Why are we allowing the police to become 'them' instead of requiring them to be 'us' as an employment condition?
When you have such thick law book, you have equally thick people applying them.
Charles Rovira - the mirror
Catching terrorists is only the ostensible purpose of the TSA. The real purpose is to keep YOU and your ilk in line.
And now that we've got everyone carrying around personal tracker/informant electronics, it's trivial for leaders of opposition groups to have unfortunate accidents (traffic or otherwise). You really only need to neutralize a very small number if you nip it in the bud. Think what Hoover could do with modern tech! (Read about him lest you think it can't happen here)
FYI: Since the phone GPS initiative, phones can have location, voice and camera data remotely pulled silently. Log and data-mine that for Today's-SA goodness!
Yes, and drop the "T". Just call it the SA, so we know who we are dealing with.
Nope. TSA is perfect. Todays SA!
Why does a religion that sings 'father, son and holy ghost' when worshiping get away with calling itself monotheistic? How is praying to patron saints monotheistic? It looks like deification from over here.
Lets have an intellectual property tax for registered copyrights based on a percentage of the appraised value of the IP. The percentage is near zero for the first twelve years, then scales logarithmically. The tax is to compensate society for the loss of the freedom to remix and reinvent it's heritage so it must become significant enough that few works remain protected past two generations (40 years). i.e. When you're middle aged the IP of your childhood should enter the public domain.