This still hurts spammers, because spamming is otherwise pretty cheap. Once you've grabbed bots, all you have to do is upload a few hundred KB of scripts to an IRC channel. It's practically zero overhead. This adds some to the equation. Adding overhead puts smaller spammers out of business, and it's the way to win. We can't stop spam, just make it harder.
I haven't heard about a slower FSB - it's drop-in replacement on Xeon boards for the 50xx and 51xx series. But you're right in that the two 5160s on the MCM use the FSB to talk.
Not really. Core 2 Duo is a boon on the desktop and laptop fronts, but beyond dual-socket servers, you're not getting much. I mean, at 4-way, 8-way, and n-way configs, Hypertransport allows AMD's offerings to be much more competitive. And when we move next year to 4-core chips squaring off against 4-core chips, bandwidth contention is gonna be a huge factor with Intel's MCMs and being on a 1333 MHz FSB for 4 cores.
Exactly. We need two standards for sex crimes: violent ones and non-violent ones. For instance, at UVA where I go to school, there's a tradition of streaking the Lawn (the center of campus, also a famous UN heritage site or something) very late at night. Anyhow, we were talking in my apartment one night, and some people were thinking about doing it (they were pretty drunk). And someone mentioned, hey, that's a sex offense if you get caught. nevermind that thousands of students do it yearly, if you get caught and prosecuted (admittedly a 1 in a million chance) you are fracked for the rest of your life. Insofar as societal harm, drunken college streaking is miles away from rape or child molesting, yet you get lumped into the same group.
The point is that you shoot about 80% of the people, then when the score is renormalized, another 80% of the population gets shot, then you repeat. Ultimately, you get to one person with an IQ of exactly 100 (the only guy alive, thus perfectly average) who shoots himself.
As a UVA student, I think it depends on how much time to game you want. There's easily enough time for casual gaming (a few hours a week) on like a Tuesday or Wednesday night when there's less partying. However, I knew a guy first year (last year) who literally played Warcraft Three Battle Net (that Defenders of the Alliance map or whatever) in excess of 20 hours a week.
>>NOBODY CARES HOW EASY TO USE ENTERPRISE APPLICATIONS ARE.
No, big huge companies with million dollar IT budgets don't care, but companies where the IT is limited to one guy or half a guy will care. If they can have a homebuild solution cheaper than an out-sourced solution, they'll go for it.
You assume Apple's looking at all markets. They aren't. I'm trying to highlight a market (small businesses) that Apple could reasonably shoot for with some work.
You assume Apple doesn't try to improve OS X's server performance. It's never really been a focus for them, but if it was, they could do to servers what they've done to other technologies: Make it so that anyone with any tech experience can learn it in a weekend. Apple can win by being easiest, not by being fastest.
"OSX is substantially slower on most benchmarks than Linux and Windows."
That only matters in some areas. Once you have really fast hardware, speed because less important that useability. If we get to a situation where real 10-20 Mbps broadband is common (if not universal), we could well see people moving to hosting their own servers or their own content production.
One thing Apple is very good at is making things that were formerly very "geeky" mainstream. Things like podcasting, or streaming music from one computer to another. A lot of people I know do that without thinking.
Apple could invent a critical app that involves having your own server, and sell millions of "servers" in the form of $500 Mac Minis run by an SSH or VNC based GUI from the home computer. You keep your music on it, it serves as your firewall and router, it hosts images, a personalized chatroom, your email, and does your P2P for you (legally). Apple sells it for $300-500, even though it has less power than most low-end desktops, but it's all set up for Joe Average.
Yes. Someone else gets it. Most bands (and I work a lot of concerts, so I have a lot of interaction with small-to-medium size bands) make their money on merchandise or being booked for a show. They have the songs on myspace and give away a few free CDs at their shows. The same for comedians. They sell merchandise and live performances - they make little on their CDs or brief Comedy Central appearances (late night talk show appearances or their own show notwithstanding). In fact, one of the comedians we had went so far as to say "One of you needs to buy the CD, and the rest of you need computers". The same holds for movies - theater showings, posters, action figures, t-shirts, going around as guest speakers. Some lesser-known actors can charge up to $10,000 or more for appearances
There's no evidence we're moving to a multi-socket home desktop. The Mac Pro is a mid-level to high-end workstation. The 4x4 is an extreme example of an enthusiast system. In all probability, we'll stick with one socket in the non-enthusiast sub-$2k machines. The number of cores will go up, but not sockets.
It is better than nothing. I'm just saying that one of the strengths people espouse for Wikipedia is the diversity of content, and that doesn't work if most of the focus is only on the core content. I'd bet that 20% of the articles get 80% of the edits.
Beyond 2 sockets, you're looking at using Windows Server. There's 2000, 2k3 (which is equal to XP), and Longhorn is coming out at some point. I have no idea about co-processors. That's something AMD and Microsoft have to work out.
Generally, on systems with 4 or more sockets, lots of people are already on Linux or Unix or BSD. It's a lot more common in the server-space to see Linux.
Remember that XP currently does it by socket. So XP Home will run fine on a dual core machine, and XP Pro will run on a dual-dual setup (like Mac Pro or 4x4). However, I don't see Home moving to seeing 2 sockets anytime soon. While the number of cores in mainstream home computers is increasing, the number of sockets is pretty steady. 1 socket is a normal machine. 2 sockets is a low-end server or a workstation. 4 or 8 sockets is a HPC (render farm or science) or a server. That isn't really changing any time soon due to size constraints and motherboard costs. Yes, K8L Opterons can do n-way configs, and we're gonna see 16 and 32 socket boards, but again, that's super-high end. On the low-end, we'll be at one socket for a while.
Speaking of which, how does Home handle an MCM like Kentsfield (two Conroes on one die)?
I've downloaded 7 OS X updates, and I haven't had it change my desktop artwork. I've gotten bug fixes and security updates, as well as new features in iTunes/Quicktime, etc. Service Packs do "service" on your OS. They fix stuff Microsoft broke the first time. Whereas OS X.y updates add stuff. Like instant searching, or a new browser, or new APIs. If Apple called them OSes 11, 12, and 13, would it make you feel better? To say that the difference between 10.1 and 10.4 is equal to the difference between XP and XP sp2 is laughable. The difference was sure worth the $129 I paid.
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Microsoft would then issue a patch to fix that, but inadvertantly point the button to tubgirl. They'd then stop offering the patch, and offer a patch on the patch 3 weeks later. Meanwhile, anyone who tried to read the article gets an eyeful. Remarkably, no bug report is filed.
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We need to make security software cheaper, easier to use, and less prone to breaking things. The issue with Windows is that you're sacrificing backwards compatibility every time you close a hole. A piece of "badware" is a program, after all. If Windows does too much of that too suddenly, it's a complete loss, and they lose the only thing they had in the first place (lots of programs). I'd rather they chance it, but they don't want to.
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It appears to be. I'm just saying, there are a lot of unpatched machines out there...
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I recognize the difference between a washing machine and a computer. but I'm a computer science major, and I have about 30 posts on slashdot today. But everyone else has other interests. There are rocket scientists whose password is "password" (or would be if they could get away with it). All I'm saying is that we need to educate people better, and we can't expect the world of them unless we're willing to sit down and teach them stuff. Threatening to take away computers won't work, because all the big companies will oppose it, and Joe Schmoe will oppose it.
you're utilizing the tools and existing communities of P2P to your advantage for at least part of the time. It doesn't have to be explicitly said either. Try to sell your first film, but if there's piracy, hey, it helps your real goal...
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Fine. How about having AV, anti-spyware, etc., as a free BTO option. If you don't want it, you get a coupon for another AV vendor.
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This still hurts spammers, because spamming is otherwise pretty cheap. Once you've grabbed bots, all you have to do is upload a few hundred KB of scripts to an IRC channel. It's practically zero overhead. This adds some to the equation. Adding overhead puts smaller spammers out of business, and it's the way to win. We can't stop spam, just make it harder.
I haven't heard about a slower FSB - it's drop-in replacement on Xeon boards for the 50xx and 51xx series. But you're right in that the two 5160s on the MCM use the FSB to talk.
Not really. Core 2 Duo is a boon on the desktop and laptop fronts, but beyond dual-socket servers, you're not getting much. I mean, at 4-way, 8-way, and n-way configs, Hypertransport allows AMD's offerings to be much more competitive. And when we move next year to 4-core chips squaring off against 4-core chips, bandwidth contention is gonna be a huge factor with Intel's MCMs and being on a 1333 MHz FSB for 4 cores.
Exactly. We need two standards for sex crimes: violent ones and non-violent ones. For instance, at UVA where I go to school, there's a tradition of streaking the Lawn (the center of campus, also a famous UN heritage site or something) very late at night. Anyhow, we were talking in my apartment one night, and some people were thinking about doing it (they were pretty drunk). And someone mentioned, hey, that's a sex offense if you get caught. nevermind that thousands of students do it yearly, if you get caught and prosecuted (admittedly a 1 in a million chance) you are fracked for the rest of your life. Insofar as societal harm, drunken college streaking is miles away from rape or child molesting, yet you get lumped into the same group.
I thought IQ had a std. dev of about 15?
The point is that you shoot about 80% of the people, then when the score is renormalized, another 80% of the population gets shot, then you repeat. Ultimately, you get to one person with an IQ of exactly 100 (the only guy alive, thus perfectly average) who shoots himself.
baseball bat with razor blades glued on
I have seen this at least 3 times in the last day. Where is it coming from?
As a UVA student, I think it depends on how much time to game you want. There's easily enough time for casual gaming (a few hours a week) on like a Tuesday or Wednesday night when there's less partying. However, I knew a guy first year (last year) who literally played Warcraft Three Battle Net (that Defenders of the Alliance map or whatever) in excess of 20 hours a week.
Here's a link: www.google.com
You call that a link? This is a link: google.com
Xserves are generally cheap for mid-range servers. The point isn't the shiny front, it's ease of use.
>>NOBODY CARES HOW EASY TO USE ENTERPRISE APPLICATIONS ARE.
No, big huge companies with million dollar IT budgets don't care, but companies where the IT is limited to one guy or half a guy will care. If they can have a homebuild solution cheaper than an out-sourced solution, they'll go for it.
You assume Apple's looking at all markets. They aren't. I'm trying to highlight a market (small businesses) that Apple could reasonably shoot for with some work.
You assume Apple doesn't try to improve OS X's server performance. It's never really been a focus for them, but if it was, they could do to servers what they've done to other technologies: Make it so that anyone with any tech experience can learn it in a weekend. Apple can win by being easiest, not by being fastest.
"OSX is substantially slower on most benchmarks than Linux and Windows."
That only matters in some areas. Once you have really fast hardware, speed because less important that useability. If we get to a situation where real 10-20 Mbps broadband is common (if not universal), we could well see people moving to hosting their own servers or their own content production.
One thing Apple is very good at is making things that were formerly very "geeky" mainstream. Things like podcasting, or streaming music from one computer to another. A lot of people I know do that without thinking.
Apple could invent a critical app that involves having your own server, and sell millions of "servers" in the form of $500 Mac Minis run by an SSH or VNC based GUI from the home computer. You keep your music on it, it serves as your firewall and router, it hosts images, a personalized chatroom, your email, and does your P2P for you (legally). Apple sells it for $300-500, even though it has less power than most low-end desktops, but it's all set up for Joe Average.
Yes. Someone else gets it. Most bands (and I work a lot of concerts, so I have a lot of interaction with small-to-medium size bands) make their money on merchandise or being booked for a show. They have the songs on myspace and give away a few free CDs at their shows. The same for comedians. They sell merchandise and live performances - they make little on their CDs or brief Comedy Central appearances (late night talk show appearances or their own show notwithstanding). In fact, one of the comedians we had went so far as to say "One of you needs to buy the CD, and the rest of you need computers". The same holds for movies - theater showings, posters, action figures, t-shirts, going around as guest speakers. Some lesser-known actors can charge up to $10,000 or more for appearances
There's no evidence we're moving to a multi-socket home desktop. The Mac Pro is a mid-level to high-end workstation. The 4x4 is an extreme example of an enthusiast system. In all probability, we'll stick with one socket in the non-enthusiast sub-$2k machines. The number of cores will go up, but not sockets.
It is better than nothing. I'm just saying that one of the strengths people espouse for Wikipedia is the diversity of content, and that doesn't work if most of the focus is only on the core content. I'd bet that 20% of the articles get 80% of the edits.
Beyond 2 sockets, you're looking at using Windows Server. There's 2000, 2k3 (which is equal to XP), and Longhorn is coming out at some point. I have no idea about co-processors. That's something AMD and Microsoft have to work out.
Generally, on systems with 4 or more sockets, lots of people are already on Linux or Unix or BSD. It's a lot more common in the server-space to see Linux.
Remember that XP currently does it by socket. So XP Home will run fine on a dual core machine, and XP Pro will run on a dual-dual setup (like Mac Pro or 4x4). However, I don't see Home moving to seeing 2 sockets anytime soon. While the number of cores in mainstream home computers is increasing, the number of sockets is pretty steady. 1 socket is a normal machine. 2 sockets is a low-end server or a workstation. 4 or 8 sockets is a HPC (render farm or science) or a server. That isn't really changing any time soon due to size constraints and motherboard costs. Yes, K8L Opterons can do n-way configs, and we're gonna see 16 and 32 socket boards, but again, that's super-high end. On the low-end, we'll be at one socket for a while.
Speaking of which, how does Home handle an MCM like Kentsfield (two Conroes on one die)?
I've downloaded 7 OS X updates, and I haven't had it change my desktop artwork. I've gotten bug fixes and security updates, as well as new features in iTunes/Quicktime, etc. Service Packs do "service" on your OS. They fix stuff Microsoft broke the first time. Whereas OS X.y updates add stuff. Like instant searching, or a new browser, or new APIs. If Apple called them OSes 11, 12, and 13, would it make you feel better? To say that the difference between 10.1 and 10.4 is equal to the difference between XP and XP sp2 is laughable. The difference was sure worth the $129 I paid.
Microsoft would then issue a patch to fix that, but inadvertantly point the button to tubgirl. They'd then stop offering the patch, and offer a patch on the patch 3 weeks later. Meanwhile, anyone who tried to read the article gets an eyeful. Remarkably, no bug report is filed.
We need to make security software cheaper, easier to use, and less prone to breaking things. The issue with Windows is that you're sacrificing backwards compatibility every time you close a hole. A piece of "badware" is a program, after all. If Windows does too much of that too suddenly, it's a complete loss, and they lose the only thing they had in the first place (lots of programs). I'd rather they chance it, but they don't want to.
It appears to be. I'm just saying, there are a lot of unpatched machines out there...
I recognize the difference between a washing machine and a computer. but I'm a computer science major, and I have about 30 posts on slashdot today. But everyone else has other interests. There are rocket scientists whose password is "password" (or would be if they could get away with it). All I'm saying is that we need to educate people better, and we can't expect the world of them unless we're willing to sit down and teach them stuff. Threatening to take away computers won't work, because all the big companies will oppose it, and Joe Schmoe will oppose it.
you're utilizing the tools and existing communities of P2P to your advantage for at least part of the time. It doesn't have to be explicitly said either. Try to sell your first film, but if there's piracy, hey, it helps your real goal...
Fine. How about having AV, anti-spyware, etc., as a free BTO option. If you don't want it, you get a coupon for another AV vendor.