I also predicted that there would be DRM on the platform. It's not there yet, but it will be if OLPC continues on this path, and it will be Microsoft's DRM. If we go by history, it will be Microsoft's DRM. I see no reason to wait for it to appear before raising the issue and question.
I'd happily say "Oh, Ok, I'll shut up now" if Microsoft came out and pledged that anything bundled with their OLPC XP will be DRM free.
Every time I ponder the possibility of that happening, I keep coming back to "snowball's chance in hell".
Could someone tell me why teaching a child to share is a bad idea? Giving them DRM laced educational materials is effectively teaching the child _not_ to share.
Who knows, maybe hell will freeze over and Microsoft will pledge to avoid DRM entirely on the OLPC. I'd love to see it happen.
I predicted this a while ago when they were just talking about "dual boot".
Bruce, I think your being a little overly consternatious but you do seem to see through the smoke. A lot of people were o.k. with dual boot when they learned that an OLPC security requirement dictated that any dual boot system must have an instant revert feature to just the pristine sugar OS.
Other people have said that the OLPC is not just an e-book reader, they are correct. However, like you, I can not see how handing kids _anything_ locked with DRM can be good. Unless, of course its just being used as a signing mechanism.
The only reason for _having_ DRM (beyond guaranteeing the authenticity of something) is so that some mythical 'intellectual property' claim can be enforced, we see the RIAA 'enforcing' it frequently.
If _any_ vendor has no intentions of ever suing impoverished children and educational systems, why lock the materials to begin with?
Its not an operating system war, its an ethical question. Are we handing the kids learning tools or a poison pill that looks like a laptop?
When quality, free texts are produced (as you discussed), my objections to XP on the OLPC will vanish. If free versions of learning materials exist, at least school systems have a 'real' choice in selecting their OS.
It remains their choice. What bothers me is, until free materials are produced, the choice is little more than a fallacy.
The guy has enough of an obsession that he spent $24,000 on mostly Data props, and Brent Spiner told him he was ripped off. I doubt his feelings of humiliation are based on who else was in the line.
I thought about that, but I have no idea how much he has / makes and is able to spend. To some people, 24 grand is like 24 bucks. Yeah, he was rather humiliated in front of Brent Spiner, but is that really worth a million bucks?
If the auction house knowingly sold the guy a fake, they should be made to pay some damages. I feel for the guy but I also hate to keep seeing people spanked to the tune of millions every time that someone gets their feelings hurt. No matter the cause, I hate to see (what looks like) lawsuit abuse. Nothing but the dollar amount is bothering me.
If it's fake, he should get his money back, but damages? What was damaged? His fantasy of pretending he's Data while playing poker with somebody in a Whorf costume? Or was it his hope to resell the visor for a ton more movney on eBay once it was signed by Spiner?
Value these days is indeed anticipatory. If you bought a house that was guaranteed to be atop a famous grave, that purchase is more or less an investment. If it turned out that John Q. Public was underneath, that would be bad for business. Similarly, if you bought a stock based on reports from cooked books, you'd have a similar gripe.
What's interesting about this is, does value equal what you thought you could make, or the price you paid for whatever you bought? This guy was in a line with (at best) 10 people in earshot of what was said, not quite worth what he's suing for if the merit is based entirely on the buyer being 'humiliated'.
Something tells me this lawsuit could have been better if a lawyer wasn't so eager to grasp at straws. It looks like the guy was sold a fake, nonetheless, so avoiding that auction house until this is settled might be a good idea.
may not be a lawyer, but it seems pretty obvious that since they're making illegal ELECTRONIC copies of stuff, only the electrons from those atoms are really in violation. The Pirate Bay folks should be able to insist that the cops leave behind all the protons and neutrons that are their rightful property.
Particles would be better. We should take into consideration the time that their alleged piracy is supposed to exist and the time it takes to realize that TPB is quickly out of the loop once you download a.torrent file.
If Prince was having me followed, I'd plug my higgs with a cork and run for cover, that dude has issues. 80's or not, a Barney colored Harley can only mean certain things.
Insanity is best defined as doing the same brain-dead thing repeatedly yet expecting different results. If they could be shut down, they would have been shut down. Perhaps he should write new songs and go out on tour, and stop staring at my higgs.
Why is it things like this never have pictures? I wanna see pictures. Its no fun to read about things that you don't (quite) understand unless you can ooh and ahh at pictures while you pretend to understand. Then you can point at your screen and say "See? Its THAT piece. That's what makes it work. Its the, err.. umm, thing that makes it work!"
The projectiles from those are affected by gravity, wind, and cause a sight more permanent damage than these things.
I hope the technology doesn't get too cheap and leaked into the public, otherwise child abuse and other kinds of crime/abuse would get a whole lot easier (no visible trauma, and people would have a lot less moral issues with just hurting someone temporarily rather than shooting them).
Child abusers prefer a much more sinister weapon, its called 'shame', its further enabled by mass (and instant) syndication of blogs over the Internet.
What _really_ concerns me is the trial and error that went _INTO_ this gizmo.
Or, alternatively, you could just custom compile the fucking thing to take out the "big iron" if that's what you want. I frequently custom compile kernels, particularly when I'm putting Linux on older hardware.
There's nothing quite like the grand proclamations of the idiots.
That's what I was thinking the whole time that I was reading TFA. 'make menuconfig' is not that difficult to do, granted, you'll need some ncurses stuff.. but if your installing a kernel from kernel.org you ought to know what that is;)
I have, on my drives probably 15 variants of the Linux kernel. Some are Xen, some are patched to make use of experimental file systems like ext3cow, some are tuned for servers (no usb, parallel, firewire, etc), some are tuned for desktops. In fact, two of them are using ck's patches.
This article is simply apathy due to people-at-large not knowing any better and spouting off because they need something to complain about in order to gain advertising revenue.
Every damn GNU/Linux distro in the world 'forks' the Kernel when they cherry pick patches to put into their own packaging of it. Most make four, 2 x86_32 (server/desktop), 2 x86_64 (server/desktop). Lately, many have been making 8, adding xen stuff to the above 4.
Support for _LEGACY_ block devices (some old ata stuff) is not being developed much anymore beyond obvious bugfixes, but why should it? The hardware _itself_ is not being developed anymore.
I really wish people would take the time to learn prior to propagating misinformation for the sake of drawing ad clicks.
It's amazing that RMS doesn't see this. Linus isn't at war with RMS, he just doesn't like GPL v3. Unite and conquer, not fight amongst ourselves. Sheesh.
Linus (even though he never wanted it) has a huge following and delights in using very strong words to express his feelings. Many of his comments and interviews project something very sinister behind GPL3 which simply does not exist.
Linus wants the license, not the ideals that formed it. He has been _extremely_ vocal in his outbursts regarding GPL3 (and very harsh). Some slightly less 'sharp' wording from Linus might also help to cure the problem.
It is one thing to say "GPL3 isn't the license for me". Calling people who embrace the ideals of free software 'small minded' at every available opportunity is something else.
Say what you will about RMS, I have yet to see him call someone 'stupid' , 'terminally stupid', 'idiotic', a 'crack monkey' (I could go on). I don't fault Linus for his personality, however, if you don't wish to lead, take care to not set examples. The FSF is critical in the free software ecosystem, every time Linus has an outburst, more support for it vanishes. That's just.. well, wrong. The GNU project gave us an OS, Linus gave us a Kernel, we need both despite politics.
Linus is free to do (or say) whatever the hell he wants. Why does RMS get clobbered for doing the same once in a very blue moon?
That excuses the fluff (somewhat, but I've never really minded the "random geek does something irrelevant but neat" type of fluff), but it most assuredly does not excuse the rampant FUD and trolling.
I agree that there is quite a bit of rampant trolling. This is not a case of rampant trolling. This happens quite a bit, I was actually amazed to see it on/.
There are a _lot_ of people who see the $15 - $20 that they pay a host as a hardship, for them it is. Many people in IT do not have jobs, trying to make money via (some kind of site) is a last ditch effort. Many hosts restrict external MySQL connections, backing up databases every 15 minutes must be done manually, this is problematic if you hope to sleep.
Someone 'just vanishing' like this is a really below-the-belt blow to many people who have sunk quite a bit of time and effort into a project that hoped only to make a couple of bills go away.
I can only say, you insensitive clods, not _everyone_ makes 80k a year for processing oxygen:)
I'm glad to see/. run this, even if it only serves to convince the DC to open those servers to let poeple get their stuff and move on.
There is something to it folks.. I'm in this industry and this happens far too often.
SQLite essentially assumes that you will pull all the data into the application and then process it from there. That's a non-starter performance-wise, for many applications.
Thanks for sharing:) My typical use is extremely simple in all practical senses so I'm not aware of all of the quirks.
I'm about to do some really, really big archiving projects, I've got to get quite a bit higher on the learning curve rather quickly.
As far as free RDBMSs, all I can find from searching and research is many people arguing on how it should be done. I think I might just learn as I always do, the old fashioned way :
I believe you can build a storage engine in MySQL that deals with column-based storage. I'm not sure if it's been done yet, but I don't see why it couldn't be.
The FA threw me for a loop a couple of times, I honestly _did_ try to read it:) Correct me if I'm incorrect, but wouldn't having a service for column stores be (usually) not needed on most Unix-like platforms? Since this is mostly reading, I would think such efforts might be better spent on sqlite (or similar)?
If your in a situation where you're mostly reading with (likely) only one infrequent writer, wouldn't eliminating the overhead of a database service entirely be desirable?
I can't think of a situation where you would want many frequent writers to a column store schema, again, correct me if I'm off.
If it's all OK and everything with the corporate ownership of Slashdot to be played by IDG, I suppose that's their business, but one would hope that they are actually getting PAID for being part of IDG's advertising program. And of course there should be disclosure so that visitors to Slashdot realize they are reading advertisements and not an article submitted by a "real" user...
He's taking the long view. It's a hassle today, but in the long run he is striking a blow for freedom for all of us. We need more people who are able to look past momentary inconvenience and see the big picture.
I do not dispute this, at all. The means are great, its just the method that leaves me with my head shaking. I'm often wrong:) I could be in this case, but its important to share thoughts.
If you were to step back and think for a moment, you could grab a newspaper, or anything close at hand, and smack that SOB hornet with your weapon, and avoid being stung.
Umm, I recommend _NOT_ swatting cops (or hornets) with newspapers. They have friends:)
I see your point, but I still feel that this guy cut off his nose to spite his face. Right or wrong, it was a knee-jerk reaction and did not seem to do him a lot of good:)
What shocks me is that the cop instantly took Circuit City's side without even bothering to figure out if there was any reason he SHOULD.
I'm not sure what that says about the cop but that was his fatal mistake and I suspect it's going to be a very, very expensive one.
I think simply asking for "Identification" would have been the way to go. I'm sure the cop realized that this was likely to be a lawsuit just over the false report of theft and harassment. The cop has paperwork, it needs to be completed correctly since its likely to become evidence.
It sounds like the guy was also very very rude and combative, well, cops are trained to react to that in a certain way.
Right or wrong, if I swat at a hornet, its going to sting me. Sounds like this guy delights in complaining. I'm not saying that they are not valid complaints, but a little more finesse would not have killed him.
Can you cite your source for this data? Or are you just assuming this because some of your friends are libertarians?
All of my friends (and non friends) are human beings. So, I address them as such and expect behavior typical for human beings.
Living abroad, I get a little bit of a different perspective. Libertarian, Republican, whatever.. most published writings seem to complain yet solve nothing. That is the image that we project, quite sad.
The poster is asking a good question, not stating a fact. Why is it that questions should be substantiated with a clear need for asking?:)
And for the unenlightened (pun intended) among us, such a returning person is called a Bodhisattva.
Another common term is a householder which is common in Zen schools. Many of us who realize that life != you must be miserable must also realize that interaction with the world is still mandatory, should we hope to finish raising our children and looking after our families.
Both words describe a noble act, one is more "Eh, I'll put off supreme happiness and help these other people achieve it first", the second is "Ok, when my kid is grown and doing well, I can then become enlightened if I wish." Sort of a subtle difference, one is more obligatory than the other, but the oblilgation does not detract from the selflessness of the act.
A householder who works to ease suffering outside of their own home and family would be called a Bodhisattva, even though both mean basically the same thing and can be used either way.
The word is frequently misunderstood (a bit) so I thought that I would chirp in:)
You only have a GPL violation if there is an agreement to it to start with.
If you distribute GPL covered things (binary or source) you simply must convey the same freedoms that you received with the package.
But, sometimes, things get screwy. Lets say I wrote 'widget-x' and I was the only copyright holder of the code (or one of very few). Then I decide, hey, I want to sell Widget-X with more features, and not make the source code available. As the copyright holder, its my right to do so, i.e. dual licensing.
Someone else, however, can not do that. If they distribute modified copies of 'Widget-x', they _must_ also distribute the code that they changed, so that the end user is free to study it, change it, etc.
You don't have to distribute your modified version of Widget-X, that's up to you. If you do elect to distribute it, you must make the source available and give me proper credit. Ideally, you also give me some source code in return, to improve Widget-X.
In a case like the one that was asked here, its possible that the authors of the programs in question _did_ consent to the way that their prorgams were being used. Its also a good chance that they did not.
It always comes down to, better to just report your findings to the FSF and let them use their office to get to the root of it. I can't see how taking this right to Slashdot helps anything, at all:)
Or at least asking them for the source. It's a common misconception that a GPLd app must be accompanied by source code. The company only has to make it available upon request.
Its a whole bird's nest of issues.
You have copyright violations (no credit given to the author, someone distributing someone else's work as their own)
You have a GPL violation if the license, itself was not included with distributed GPL code.
So yeah, a whole ton of people would have to get on the same page to take appropriate steps, starting with the author's themselves being contacted. This is part of the function of the FSF, who enforces the license.
Before you cry foul, however, you must ensure that the works were not _DUAL_LICENSED_, such as MySQL, which enable the authors to accept money in order to have their stuff included in non-free releases.
The best thing to do, if its GPL or LGPL, contact the FSF first, let them look into it and then let them coordinate getting everyone on the same page. Its important to report these things, even if you just suspect a violation. You might not be aware of all circumstances, such as dual licensing and may find you simply cried wolf, even though your intent was good natured.
The Dali Lama position has frequently been held by people whose selection was extremely useful politically (influential families and such). I find it all highly suspect. Probably because, since I have a reasonable self image, I don't need to delude myself that a country with a population mostly consisting of poor people prone to starvation at the slightest turn of fortune is somehow also the keeper of a path to some higher state of being.
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I'd happily say "Oh, Ok, I'll shut up now" if Microsoft came out and pledged that anything bundled with their OLPC XP will be DRM free.
Every time I ponder the possibility of that happening, I keep coming back to "snowball's chance in hell".
Could someone tell me why teaching a child to share is a bad idea? Giving them DRM laced educational materials is effectively teaching the child _not_ to share.
Who knows, maybe hell will freeze over and Microsoft will pledge to avoid DRM entirely on the OLPC. I'd love to see it happen.
Thanks for keeping this in the light Bruce.
ago when they were just talking about "dual boot".
Bruce, I think your being a little overly consternatious but you do seem to see through the smoke. A lot of people were o.k. with dual boot when they learned that an OLPC security requirement dictated that any dual boot system must have an instant revert feature to just the pristine sugar OS.Other people have said that the OLPC is not just an e-book reader, they are correct. However, like you, I can not see how handing kids _anything_ locked with DRM can be good. Unless, of course its just being used as a signing mechanism.
The only reason for _having_ DRM (beyond guaranteeing the authenticity of something) is so that some mythical 'intellectual property' claim can be enforced, we see the RIAA 'enforcing' it frequently.
If _any_ vendor has no intentions of ever suing impoverished children and educational systems, why lock the materials to begin with?
Its not an operating system war, its an ethical question. Are we handing the kids learning tools or a poison pill that looks like a laptop?
When quality, free texts are produced (as you discussed), my objections to XP on the OLPC will vanish. If free versions of learning materials exist, at least school systems have a 'real' choice in selecting their OS.
It remains their choice. What bothers me is, until free materials are produced, the choice is little more than a fallacy.
Try ext3cow and NFS.
I thought about that, but I have no idea how much he has / makes and is able to spend. To some people, 24 grand is like 24 bucks. Yeah, he was rather humiliated in front of Brent Spiner, but is that really worth a million bucks?
If the auction house knowingly sold the guy a fake, they should be made to pay some damages. I feel for the guy but I also hate to keep seeing people spanked to the tune of millions every time that someone gets their feelings hurt. No matter the cause, I hate to see (what looks like) lawsuit abuse. Nothing but the dollar amount is bothering me.
Value these days is indeed anticipatory. If you bought a house that was guaranteed to be atop a famous grave, that purchase is more or less an investment. If it turned out that John Q. Public was underneath, that would be bad for business. Similarly, if you bought a stock based on reports from cooked books, you'd have a similar gripe.
What's interesting about this is, does value equal what you thought you could make, or the price you paid for whatever you bought? This guy was in a line with (at best) 10 people in earshot of what was said, not quite worth what he's suing for if the merit is based entirely on the buyer being 'humiliated'.
Something tells me this lawsuit could have been better if a lawyer wasn't so eager to grasp at straws. It looks like the guy was sold a fake, nonetheless, so avoiding that auction house until this is settled might be a good idea.
Particles would be better. We should take into consideration the time that their alleged piracy is supposed to exist and the time it takes to realize that TPB is quickly out of the loop once you download a
If Prince was having me followed, I'd plug my higgs with a cork and run for cover, that dude has issues. 80's or not, a Barney colored Harley can only mean certain things.
Insanity is best defined as doing the same brain-dead thing repeatedly yet expecting different results. If they could be shut down, they would have been shut down. Perhaps he should write new songs and go out on tour, and stop staring at my higgs.
Well, I just patented creating rings with exhaled smoke, don't any of you dare infringe upon my intellectual property!
Why is it things like this never have pictures? I wanna see pictures. Its no fun to read about things that you don't (quite) understand unless you can ooh and ahh at pictures while you pretend to understand. Then you can point at your screen and say "See? Its THAT piece. That's what makes it work. Its the, err.. umm, thing that makes it work!"
Child abusers prefer a much more sinister weapon, its called 'shame', its further enabled by mass (and instant) syndication of blogs over the Internet.
What _really_ concerns me is the trial and error that went _INTO_ this gizmo.
Ok, Can you feel pain now? Good.
Can you feel pain now? GOOOOD.
Can you feel pain _NOW_ ?, GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!
That's what I was thinking the whole time that I was reading TFA. 'make menuconfig' is not that difficult to do, granted, you'll need some ncurses stuff.. but if your installing a kernel from kernel.org you ought to know what that is
I have, on my drives probably 15 variants of the Linux kernel. Some are Xen, some are patched to make use of experimental file systems like ext3cow, some are tuned for servers (no usb, parallel, firewire, etc), some are tuned for desktops. In fact, two of them are using ck's patches.
This article is simply apathy due to people-at-large not knowing any better and spouting off because they need something to complain about in order to gain advertising revenue.
Every damn GNU/Linux distro in the world 'forks' the Kernel when they cherry pick patches to put into their own packaging of it. Most make four, 2 x86_32 (server/desktop), 2 x86_64 (server/desktop). Lately, many have been making 8, adding xen stuff to the above 4.
Support for _LEGACY_ block devices (some old ata stuff) is not being developed much anymore beyond obvious bugfixes, but why should it? The hardware _itself_ is not being developed anymore.
I really wish people would take the time to learn prior to propagating misinformation for the sake of drawing ad clicks.
Linus (even though he never wanted it) has a huge following and delights in using very strong words to express his feelings. Many of his comments and interviews project something very sinister behind GPL3 which simply does not exist.
Linus wants the license, not the ideals that formed it. He has been _extremely_ vocal in his outbursts regarding GPL3 (and very harsh). Some slightly less 'sharp' wording from Linus might also help to cure the problem.
It is one thing to say "GPL3 isn't the license for me". Calling people who embrace the ideals of free software 'small minded' at every available opportunity is something else.
Say what you will about RMS, I have yet to see him call someone 'stupid' , 'terminally stupid', 'idiotic', a 'crack monkey' (I could go on). I don't fault Linus for his personality, however, if you don't wish to lead, take care to not set examples. The FSF is critical in the free software ecosystem, every time Linus has an outburst, more support for it vanishes. That's just
Linus is free to do (or say) whatever the hell he wants. Why does RMS get clobbered for doing the same once in a very blue moon?
I agree that there is quite a bit of rampant trolling. This is not a case of rampant trolling. This happens quite a bit, I was actually amazed to see it on
There are a _lot_ of people who see the $15 - $20 that they pay a host as a hardship, for them it is. Many people in IT do not have jobs, trying to make money via (some kind of site) is a last ditch effort. Many hosts restrict external MySQL connections, backing up databases every 15 minutes must be done manually, this is problematic if you hope to sleep.
Someone 'just vanishing' like this is a really below-the-belt blow to many people who have sunk quite a bit of time and effort into a project that hoped only to make a couple of bills go away.
I can only say, you insensitive clods, not _everyone_ makes 80k a year for processing oxygen
I'm glad to see
There is something to it folks.. I'm in this industry and this happens far too often.
Roland would never agree, it would just be 'too obvious'.
Thanks for sharing
I'm about to do some really, really big archiving projects, I've got to get quite a bit higher on the learning curve rather quickly.
As far as free RDBMSs, all I can find from searching and research is many people arguing on how it should be done. I think I might just learn as I always do, the old fashioned way :
Break it, Break it, Break it, get it right.
The FA threw me for a loop a couple of times, I honestly _did_ try to read it
If your in a situation where you're mostly reading with (likely) only one infrequent writer, wouldn't eliminating the overhead of a database service entirely be desirable?
I can't think of a situation where you would want many frequent writers to a column store schema, again, correct me if I'm off.
I, for one, welcome our new IDG overlords
Whoops :) did not close a blockquote correctly.
Umm, I recommend _NOT_ swatting cops (or hornets) with newspapers. They have friends
I see your point, but I still feel that this guy cut off his nose to spite his face. Right or wrong, it was a knee-jerk reaction and did not seem to do him a lot of good
I think simply asking for "Identification" would have been the way to go. I'm sure the cop realized that this was likely to be a lawsuit just over the false report of theft and harassment. The cop has paperwork, it needs to be completed correctly since its likely to become evidence.
It sounds like the guy was also very very rude and combative, well, cops are trained to react to that in a certain way.
Right or wrong, if I swat at a hornet, its going to sting me. Sounds like this guy delights in complaining. I'm not saying that they are not valid complaints, but a little more finesse would not have killed him.
All of my friends (and non friends) are human beings. So, I address them as such and expect behavior typical for human beings.
Living abroad, I get a little bit of a different perspective. Libertarian, Republican, whatever
The poster is asking a good question, not stating a fact. Why is it that questions should be substantiated with a clear need for asking?
Be careful to not turn 'just' into a dirty word.
Another common term is a householder which is common in Zen schools. Many of us who realize that life != you must be miserable must also realize that interaction with the world is still mandatory, should we hope to finish raising our children and looking after our families.
Both words describe a noble act, one is more "Eh, I'll put off supreme happiness and help these other people achieve it first", the second is "Ok, when my kid is grown and doing well, I can then become enlightened if I wish." Sort of a subtle difference, one is more obligatory than the other, but the oblilgation does not detract from the selflessness of the act.
A householder who works to ease suffering outside of their own home and family would be called a Bodhisattva, even though both mean basically the same thing and can be used either way.
The word is frequently misunderstood (a bit) so I thought that I would chirp in
If you distribute GPL covered things (binary or source) you simply must convey the same freedoms that you received with the package.
But, sometimes, things get screwy. Lets say I wrote 'widget-x' and I was the only copyright holder of the code (or one of very few). Then I decide, hey, I want to sell Widget-X with more features, and not make the source code available. As the copyright holder, its my right to do so, i.e. dual licensing.
Someone else, however, can not do that. If they distribute modified copies of 'Widget-x', they _must_ also distribute the code that they changed, so that the end user is free to study it, change it, etc.
You don't have to distribute your modified version of Widget-X, that's up to you. If you do elect to distribute it, you must make the source available and give me proper credit. Ideally, you also give me some source code in return, to improve Widget-X.
In a case like the one that was asked here, its possible that the authors of the programs in question _did_ consent to the way that their prorgams were being used. Its also a good chance that they did not.
It always comes down to, better to just report your findings to the FSF and let them use their office to get to the root of it. I can't see how taking this right to Slashdot helps anything, at all
But, just mho.
Its a whole bird's nest of issues.
You have copyright violations (no credit given to the author, someone distributing someone else's work as their own)
You have a GPL violation if the license, itself was not included with distributed GPL code.
So yeah, a whole ton of people would have to get on the same page to take appropriate steps, starting with the author's themselves being contacted. This is part of the function of the FSF, who enforces the license.
Before you cry foul, however, you must ensure that the works were not _DUAL_LICENSED_, such as MySQL, which enable the authors to accept money in order to have their stuff included in non-free releases.
The best thing to do, if its GPL or LGPL, contact the FSF first, let them look into it and then let them coordinate getting everyone on the same page. Its important to report these things, even if you just suspect a violation. You might not be aware of all circumstances, such as dual licensing and may find you simply cried wolf, even though your intent was good natured.
Do you have anything else to say?