No disrespect, as Debian is a damned solid distro. But lets be real about the situation. 14 cds? or one?
Or how about, when i actually want help on an issue i'm greated by either A) a community or B) paid support, that isn't filled with elitist pricks who think their shit doesn't stink?
Debian guys, might know they're crap, but they're air of snottiness will drive people away from linux all together. I thank them for their efforts, but the Debian community need to drop the attitude. Oh Boo hoo... a couple of the Debian developers went to work on Ubuntu. Ya know?
I'm not going to debate the issue. But as it stands now, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Amazon, Ebay, Christian Coalition, Associated Press, Gun Owners of America, MoveOn, the Christian Coalition, financial groups such as National Association of Federal Credit Unions, America's Community Bankers, American Bankers Association and Independent Community Bankers of America, and the typical EFF and ACLU, and yes, even Moby and Michael Stipe all support this.
And ya know, i gotta support what Moby does..;)
Seriously though, this issue is pulling together people who would never side with one another. From the land of geekdom, to financial sectors, hollywood, online content providers, religious groups, conservative and liberal groups, the press and financial firms. If congress doesn't listen to this loud voice rising up.. I'll give up hope for this nation because rarely do you see people come together like this. Rarely do you see this many organizations agree over such an issue.
Just as a correction folks, it's not called "Black Frog" this is a mix up. There was two projects. Black Frog and Okopipi aiming for the same goal. Black Frog stopped and the people joined Okopipi.
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after 6 rings, the answerming machine picks up and asks you where you want to go select 1 to reach an inbox by name dial this in. 4277375646
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Administration Center
Plainfield Community Consolidated School District 202
15732 Howard Street
Plainfield, IL 60544
Tel: (815) 577-4000
Fax: (815) 436-7824
Operations/Maintenance Office
914 N. Eastern Avenue
Plainfield, IL 60544
Tel: (815) 436-7800
Fax: (815) 439-4830
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500 W. Fort Beggs Drive
Plainfield, IL 60544
Tel: (815) 439-4567
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Email comments to:
info@learningcommunity202.org
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http://www.learningcommunity202.org/
Administration Center Hours:
Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. until 4 p.m.
John Harpers personal inbox..
(815) 577-4000
after 6 rings, the answerming machine picks up and asks you where you want to go
select 1 to reach an inbox by name
dial this in.
4277375646
most non-tech people rarely go above that resolution anyways.
It's just the matter of editting xorg.conf.
and i've seen certain NICs not work on Live cd's... but i've never seen a NIC not work on Ubuntu. Ever.
It's about keeping people stupid.
The government cares far more about you not being informed about anything, than taking a particular side. You're easier to appeal to, OR.. you simply don't participate in anything meaningful.
Communication.
This would end up extending to blogs, sites such as this, many politcally affiliated sites ranging from Green Party forums to the Freepers (freerepublic).
This is about limiting communication and making sure the youth grow addicted to mainstream media and the b.s. they pump into our society day in and day out. This is about control.
In the great words of Carlin "Think about the children? F#*k your children".
The guy is flat out wrong. Most Mac users are no more tech savy than your average Windows user. The walk into the Apple store and see shiny computers/pretty
OS X is a damned secure OS. Especially with it's default root account disabled, among other things. I don't know what sickens me more though. The FUD from McAfee and Symantec as they salivate to capture another market, or the snottiness of a bunch of geek-wanna-be's in black turtle necks sipping red wine and eating cheese acting like they are invincible.
I have no idea what you're talking about what so ever.
Gentoo tweaked out properly will run fast as hell, as will Ubuntu.
Go to the XFCE desktop and you get even more speed, and while not for the non-tech savy, Fluxbox flies. I run Ubuntu on an old P2 machine with 256 RAM and the thing works beautifully. Smoother than XP. Do a couple of tweaks with the useless programs that start on bootup (mainly in relation to laptops) and your boot and shutdown process is a bit faster and is the experience using it.
I'm currently using a Firefox fork on my main machine (Flock) and i'm loading pages faster than Opera does on any OS and takes less memory.
How much older do you want to go to breathe new life into it? 486?
I feel that you're both right and wrong here. While you are correct, the cries of the "blame Bush first" crowd get tired and old, just as the "blame Clinton first" crowd did, we have to understand that this administration, like the Reagan administration has set the tone in terms of business deals. Now democrats are no saints and plenty of Dems are pushing for crap like this as well, but we wouldn't be seeing the merger we are, the bills protecting corporate interest only that we are, among a plethora of other things, if there wasn't a corporate Republican in the white house, a high incumbency rate in our Republican led Congress, and a shake up to tilt things even more towards conservatives in our Supreme Court.
No Bush isn't directly responsible, yes people are looking in the wrong place, but yes we are in an atmosphere where the ton has been set by Bush & Co.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me. We pillage, we plunder, we rifle, and loot, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot, Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me. We extort, we pilfer, we filch, and sack, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. Maraud and embezzle, and even high-jack, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me. We kindle and char, inflame and ignite, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. We burn up the city, we're really a fright, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We're rascals, scoundrels, villans, and knaves, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. We're devils and black sheep, really bad eggs, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me. We're beggars and blighters, ne'er-do-well cads, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho. Aye, but we're loved by our mommies and dads, Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Look, IT departments, governments, managers who sit whacking off in cubicles all day make this choice every single day, regardless of what flavor or company they cater to. Be it MS, Linux, Mac, etc, etc.
It's rarely decided by the majority of the users, but done on a cost/benefit analysis..or through lobbying.
As it stands right now, most of the public schools in america (and a good many private ones.. from K- Uni)push Microsoft, Dell, Apple, etc. and at times this wasn't what was best for the job, but the lobbying and bidding of corporations who get thier foot in the door. Linux doesn't have many lobbyists if any, FOSS really doesn't either. There's some organizations out there that promote it, but that's really about it.
Linux and FOSS has the flexibility to do any job MS or Apple can do. No.. you might not be running the exact piece of software that you want, but guess what. YOu can get by. If i REALLY wanted to use GNU Cash, or Scribus, or Dia, (as a professor) would an IT dept be as swift to get me a linux machine? If i went and complained to it
Bottom line is, this can do the job, and it saves tax payers in the long run. Using linux, makes people a bit more tech savy too. You begin to define things as.. a web browser.. vs the "little blue E". It's a word processor, not Word. You begin to understand basic security principles..like not running with admin rights all day every day. You begin to understand that programs are nothing more than a collection of files and how to manipulate that to your advantage rather than the ol' EXE and following wizard dependency.
I can't begin to tell you how pissed off i stay for my local, state, and federal government to pay what they do for each copy of MS Office just so the majority of dipshits in the world can use Fax and Memo templates all day. Or Copies of Windows so someone can just have web and email access. From a business standpoint, it's just fiscally wasteful. And that doesn't even touch the security and stability issues.
Chinese web users can see full, uncensored results for their Google search by replacing "&meta=" with "&meta=cr%3DcountryBR" in the URL. Once the string is replaced, the censorship will not affect the results.
This is what a chinese search for Democracy looks like after this method has been applied:
My TAX dollars are going to political staffers to mess up a wiki system that is supposed to be as unbiased as possible due to a check and balance. A source of information that should be at the very least, semi-credible. If he wants to spread lies and cover his ass, that's fine. Don't go F**king up wikipedia with my tax dollars. It's a waste of time #1, and it's a slap in the face to plenty of citizens who have worked their asses off to build that site.
Anyone that edits a wiki with malicious intent, whether childish or politically motivated, needs the crap slapped out of them.
Whether that's the intention or not, that's what a good portion of ODF's consumer base is hoping for. By weakening commerical software's grasp on the market, the more we aren't forced into complying with propreitary standards.
Frankly, i think government itself should not be allowed to touch proprietary software as much as possible if a publicly open standard is available. It reeks of corporate special interest and using government institutions that we all pay for, to push a particular company's agenda.
The MS-centric computer classes that make phys ed look like advanced physics in our public school system is a good start.
It takes a while to figure out the searching. I've found Google to be a useful tool in finding the torrents i want most of the time. Just add "torrent" to whatever search you're after and see what pops up. Piratebay has a great selection of music, movies, apps, tv shows, music videoes, etc.., but unless you're in a country where American copyrights don't hold water, it's mostly illegal. Same with Mininova.
Bit Torrent tends to be great for downloading Linux distributions, taking a hour or two to download stuff that would normally take days even on broadband. There's also legaltorrents.com (or.org?).
Apps like BitLord allow you to review the files before actually downloading them, which is a plus. I don't know about Azeurus. I know Bit Torrent's original client doesn't, neither does Bit Tornado.
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No disrespect, as Debian is a damned solid distro. But lets be real about the situation. 14 cds? or one? Or how about, when i actually want help on an issue i'm greated by either A) a community or B) paid support, that isn't filled with elitist pricks who think their shit doesn't stink? Debian guys, might know they're crap, but they're air of snottiness will drive people away from linux all together. I thank them for their efforts, but the Debian community need to drop the attitude. Oh Boo hoo... a couple of the Debian developers went to work on Ubuntu. Ya know?
I'm not going to debate the issue. But as it stands now, Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, Amazon, Ebay, Christian Coalition, Associated Press, Gun Owners of America, MoveOn, the Christian Coalition, financial groups such as National Association of Federal Credit Unions, America's Community Bankers, American Bankers Association and Independent Community Bankers of America, and the typical EFF and ACLU, and yes, even Moby and Michael Stipe all support this. And ya know, i gotta support what Moby does.. ;)
Seriously though, this issue is pulling together people who would never side with one another. From the land of geekdom, to financial sectors, hollywood, online content providers, religious groups, conservative and liberal groups, the press and financial firms. If congress doesn't listen to this loud voice rising up.. I'll give up hope for this nation because rarely do you see people come together like this. Rarely do you see this many organizations agree over such an issue.
an Okopipi is a poisonous blue frog.
BlueFrog was open sourced and under the mozilla license, and yes they have the source code.
Just as a correction folks, it's not called "Black Frog" this is a mix up. There was two projects. Black Frog and Okopipi aiming for the same goal. Black Frog stopped and the people joined Okopipi.
Administration Center Plainfield Community Consolidated School District 202 15732 Howard Street Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 577-4000 Fax: (815) 436-7824 Operations/Maintenance Office 914 N. Eastern Avenue Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 436-7800 Fax: (815) 439-4830 Technology/Media Office 500 W. Fort Beggs Drive Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 439-4567 Fax: (815) 439-3952 Email comments to: info@learningcommunity202.org Web site address: http://www.learningcommunity202.org/ [learningcommunity202.org] Administration Center Hours: Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. until 4 p.m. John Harpers personal inbox.. (815) 577-4000 after 6 rings, the answerming machine picks up and asks you where you want to go select 1 to reach an inbox by name dial this in. 4277375646 jharper@learningcommunity202.org - Superintendent
Administration Center Plainfield Community Consolidated School District 202 15732 Howard Street Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 577-4000 Fax: (815) 436-7824 Operations/Maintenance Office 914 N. Eastern Avenue Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 436-7800 Fax: (815) 439-4830 Technology/Media Office 500 W. Fort Beggs Drive Plainfield, IL 60544 Tel: (815) 439-4567 Fax: (815) 439-3952 Email comments to: info@learningcommunity202.org Web site address: http://www.learningcommunity202.org/ Administration Center Hours: Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. until 4 p.m. John Harpers personal inbox.. (815) 577-4000 after 6 rings, the answerming machine picks up and asks you where you want to go select 1 to reach an inbox by name dial this in. 4277375646
most non-tech people rarely go above that resolution anyways. It's just the matter of editting xorg.conf. and i've seen certain NICs not work on Live cd's... but i've never seen a NIC not work on Ubuntu. Ever.
It's about keeping people stupid. The government cares far more about you not being informed about anything, than taking a particular side. You're easier to appeal to, OR .. you simply don't participate in anything meaningful.
Communication. This would end up extending to blogs, sites such as this, many politcally affiliated sites ranging from Green Party forums to the Freepers (freerepublic). This is about limiting communication and making sure the youth grow addicted to mainstream media and the b.s. they pump into our society day in and day out. This is about control. In the great words of Carlin "Think about the children? F#*k your children".
Apparently spammers are lining up to help out Pharmamaster from the SpecialHam forums. Digg.com users yesterday attempted lauching multiple types of bandwidth vampirism and DDOS attacks on SpecialHam yesterday as well. http://digg.com/technology/SPAMmers_really_pissed_ off_at_bluesecurity,_read_their_message_board
The guy is flat out wrong. Most Mac users are no more tech savy than your average Windows user. The walk into the Apple store and see shiny computers/pretty OS X is a damned secure OS. Especially with it's default root account disabled, among other things. I don't know what sickens me more though. The FUD from McAfee and Symantec as they salivate to capture another market, or the snottiness of a bunch of geek-wanna-be's in black turtle necks sipping red wine and eating cheese acting like they are invincible.
I have no idea what you're talking about what so ever.
Gentoo tweaked out properly will run fast as hell, as will Ubuntu.
Go to the XFCE desktop and you get even more speed, and while not for the non-tech savy, Fluxbox flies. I run Ubuntu on an old P2 machine with 256 RAM and the thing works beautifully. Smoother than XP. Do a couple of tweaks with the useless programs that start on bootup (mainly in relation to laptops) and your boot and shutdown process is a bit faster and is the experience using it.
I'm currently using a Firefox fork on my main machine (Flock) and i'm loading pages faster than Opera does on any OS and takes less memory.
How much older do you want to go to breathe new life into it? 486?
I feel that you're both right and wrong here. While you are correct, the cries of the "blame Bush first" crowd get tired and old, just as the "blame Clinton first" crowd did, we have to understand that this administration, like the Reagan administration has set the tone in terms of business deals. Now democrats are no saints and plenty of Dems are pushing for crap like this as well, but we wouldn't be seeing the merger we are, the bills protecting corporate interest only that we are, among a plethora of other things, if there wasn't a corporate Republican in the white house, a high incumbency rate in our Republican led Congress, and a shake up to tilt things even more towards conservatives in our Supreme Court. No Bush isn't directly responsible, yes people are looking in the wrong place, but yes we are in an atmosphere where the ton has been set by Bush & Co.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We pillage, we plunder, we rifle, and loot,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We kidnap and ravage and don't give a hoot,
Drink up me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We extort, we pilfer, we filch, and sack,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Maraud and embezzle, and even high-jack,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We kindle and char, inflame and ignite,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We burn up the city, we're really a fright,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We're rascals, scoundrels, villans, and knaves,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
We're devils and black sheep, really bad eggs,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me.
We're beggars and blighters, ne'er-do-well cads,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
Aye, but we're loved by our mommies and dads,
Drink up, me 'earties, yo ho.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/ senators_cfm.cfm
even if they are nazi supporters.
Look, IT departments, governments, managers who sit whacking off in cubicles all day make this choice every single day, regardless of what flavor or company they cater to. Be it MS, Linux, Mac, etc, etc.
It's rarely decided by the majority of the users, but done on a cost/benefit analysis..or through lobbying.
As it stands right now, most of the public schools in america (and a good many private ones.. from K- Uni)push Microsoft, Dell, Apple, etc. and at times this wasn't what was best for the job, but the lobbying and bidding of corporations who get thier foot in the door. Linux doesn't have many lobbyists if any, FOSS really doesn't either. There's some organizations out there that promote it, but that's really about it.
Linux and FOSS has the flexibility to do any job MS or Apple can do. No.. you might not be running the exact piece of software that you want, but guess what. YOu can get by. If i REALLY wanted to use GNU Cash, or Scribus, or Dia, (as a professor) would an IT dept be as swift to get me a linux machine? If i went and complained to it
Bottom line is, this can do the job, and it saves tax payers in the long run. Using linux, makes people a bit more tech savy too. You begin to define things as.. a web browser.. vs the "little blue E". It's a word processor, not Word. You begin to understand basic security principles..like not running with admin rights all day every day. You begin to understand that programs are nothing more than a collection of files and how to manipulate that to your advantage rather than the ol' EXE and following wizard dependency.
I can't begin to tell you how pissed off i stay for my local, state, and federal government to pay what they do for each copy of MS Office just so the majority of dipshits in the world can use Fax and Memo templates all day. Or Copies of Windows so someone can just have web and email access. From a business standpoint, it's just fiscally wasteful. And that doesn't even touch the security and stability issues.
Go to your favorite domain registry.. :)
buy "www.f--kstarforce.com"
and make a really popular blog
Chinese web users can see full, uncensored results for their Google search by replacing "&meta=" with "&meta=cr%3DcountryBR" in the URL. Once the string is replaced, the censorship will not affect the results.
c hina&btnG=%E6%90%9C%E7%B4%A2&meta=cr%3DcountryBR
This is what a chinese search for Democracy looks like after this method has been applied:
http://www.google.cn/search?hl=zh-CN&q=democracy+
My TAX dollars are going to political staffers to mess up a wiki system that is supposed to be as unbiased as possible due to a check and balance. A source of information that should be at the very least, semi-credible. If he wants to spread lies and cover his ass, that's fine. Don't go F**king up wikipedia with my tax dollars. It's a waste of time #1, and it's a slap in the face to plenty of citizens who have worked their asses off to build that site. Anyone that edits a wiki with malicious intent, whether childish or politically motivated, needs the crap slapped out of them.
capitalism driving the market looks like. Hmm.
Whether that's the intention or not, that's what a good portion of ODF's consumer base is hoping for. By weakening commerical software's grasp on the market, the more we aren't forced into complying with propreitary standards. Frankly, i think government itself should not be allowed to touch proprietary software as much as possible if a publicly open standard is available. It reeks of corporate special interest and using government institutions that we all pay for, to push a particular company's agenda. The MS-centric computer classes that make phys ed look like advanced physics in our public school system is a good start.
I found that Bit Torrent's original client worked better in terms of connection times, than Tomato on OS X.
It takes a while to figure out the searching. I've found Google to be a useful tool in finding the torrents i want most of the time. Just add "torrent" to whatever search you're after and see what pops up. Piratebay has a great selection of music, movies, apps, tv shows, music videoes, etc.., but unless you're in a country where American copyrights don't hold water, it's mostly illegal. Same with Mininova. Bit Torrent tends to be great for downloading Linux distributions, taking a hour or two to download stuff that would normally take days even on broadband. There's also legaltorrents.com (or .org?).
Apps like BitLord allow you to review the files before actually downloading them, which is a plus. I don't know about Azeurus. I know Bit Torrent's original client doesn't, neither does Bit Tornado.