Yes but here I am in the USA and now I've seen the ad and know that white PSPs are on the horizon. Sony reached this American, plus a number of others I'm sure, and didn't spend a cent.
I beleive that is the point the GPP is trying to make.
Perfluoropolyether is the lubricant. And it's not 'nanotube-based' at all. It's delivered via the tubes.
Hmm... That's interesting. Before I read your post I was imagining it was more like little trucks driving up to the disk and dumping tubes all over it. But it's the tubes that deliver this lube eh?
I tend to agree with both of you really - it seems to be a question of "right tool for the job". As an IT guy I could see the InetOS idea being a good thing. Of course the servers have to be able to claim 99.99% uptime and I would be pretty picky and choosey about who gets the job of storing my company's data. But assuming these issues could be worked out then I'd at least entertain the idea.
As a home user/hobbyist I wouldn't want to give up my privacy, right to tinker, etc. And I defiantly agree that the Slate article is full of it when they say an online OS backed by servers will deliver better performance then my PC. I have a great internet connection, super fast and reliable; that said I don't think it could beat the performance of my modest 2.4 GHz PC with it's GB of RAM..
I had a friend once who stepped on a mosquito once... the thing just laughed, threw my friend to the ground and bit him until he was on the verge of death. It left a note telling him to leave town or he'd get it again.
Wait, are we talking about mosquitos or Chuck Norris?
Experts exchange bugs me too in a couple of ways, but you *do not* need to pay to see answers. Just scroll to the bottom of the page, past the ads, past the "Subscribe now!" junk and there's the thread. And although the "Accepted Answer" does not always appear to be what you need I find that Experts Exchange has a slightly higher average of useful replies then most forums. Of course, YMMV.
There's plenty to hate about the way the site is designed, no need to make things up about it...
Here you go.... You have to follow a few links but you'll find it. Mind you someone is watching so don't express too much interest lest you make onto a sex-offender, er, terrorist, um I mean some watch list!
Yeah, for me, that works well too actually. I was just thinking Ubuntu might be more appropriate for the masses of Windows users that are finally driven over the edge by MS stupidity.
I'd like to know if this is an intentional distortion perpetuated by the telecoms, or if this is an honest misunderstanding?
While the optimist in me would love to beleive it's the latter, based on the people who are ant-net-neutrality, namely big telecomms and cable companies, it's impossible for me to accept that these people are simply ignorant of how it works. If they are then they certainly don't deserve the positions they hold within their companies.
I know you're kidding but I can see them pulling something like this. After a short period of use after purchase (say 3 months) the system boots into a form asking you to pay to continue using Windows. Failure to pay makes the OS inoperable.
And they'll sell it by telling people all the wonderful things they get by subscribing, like security fixes. Of course they won't call them security fixes, they'll call them "Enhancements" or something.
A lot of people who are clueless about this sort of thing will imagine all their pictures, documents and recipes all locked away in their PC and go digging for their wallets.
Actually the more I think about it the more I like it. If they did pull something like this then I can't imagine a better incentive to switch to a different OS.
Forever. If super secret, sensitive data is flowing on your wires, a compromise of which would violate national security, why wouldn't you trace, log and spot check *every* packet on your network?
Granted you have a good point. But saying the US has no control over a foreign company is a little broad. If they want to do business in the US they are under the same obligation as any other company to abide by our laws, implement strict quality control if that's what the contract calls for and honor any and all confidentiality agreements. If the US proves that Lenovo's manufacturers are up to shenanigans (patently easy to do btw as others in this thread have pointed out) then Lenovo will be subject to all kinds of punishment and possibly never do business in the US again. And you can bet that any other country that is aware of this type of behaviour will consider Lenovo off limits as well.
Punishing them before any facts or evidence is presented is just trigger happy, scare mongering politics.
Not to mention every other PC manufacturer who's PCs are made in China. Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer, show me one PC manufacturer who doesn't have at least some of their PCs assembled in China by Chinese.
Seems kind of arbitrary for them to pick on one company over this.
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Yes but here I am in the USA and now I've seen the ad and know that white PSPs are on the horizon.
Sony reached this American, plus a number of others I'm sure, and didn't spend a cent.
I beleive that is the point the GPP is trying to make.
Perfluoropolyether is the lubricant. And it's not 'nanotube-based' at all. It's delivered via the tubes.
Hmm... That's interesting. Before I read your post I was imagining it was more like little trucks
driving up to the disk and dumping tubes all over it. But it's the tubes that deliver this lube eh?
Trucks. What was I thinking?
I tend to agree with both of you really - it seems to be a question of "right tool for the job". As an IT guy I could see the InetOS idea being a good thing. Of course the servers have to be able to claim 99.99% uptime and I would be pretty picky and choosey about who gets the job of storing my company's data. But assuming these issues could be worked out then I'd at least entertain the idea.
As a home user/hobbyist I wouldn't want to give up my privacy, right to tinker, etc. And I defiantly agree that the Slate article is full of it when they say an online OS backed by servers will deliver better performance then my PC. I have a great internet connection, super fast and reliable; that said I don't think it could beat the performance of my modest 2.4 GHz PC with it's GB of RAM..
you only make things more difficult for yourself in the long run if you wimp out of learning things properly in the beginning.
Tell me about it! I started my education in programming with BASIC.
I had a friend once who stepped on a mosquito once... the thing just laughed, threw my friend to the ground and bit him until he was on the verge of death. It left a note telling him to leave town or he'd get it again.
Wait, are we talking about mosquitos or Chuck Norris?
I think this guy might have something to say about the name. :-)
Experts exchange bugs me too in a couple of ways, but you *do not* need to pay to see answers. Just scroll to the bottom of the page, past the ads, past the "Subscribe now!" junk and there's the thread. And although the "Accepted Answer" does not always appear to be what you need I find that Experts Exchange has a slightly higher average of useful replies then most forums. Of course, YMMV.
There's plenty to hate about the way the site is designed, no need to make things up about it...
Here you go.... You have to follow a few links but you'll find it. Mind you someone is watching so don't express too much interest lest you make onto a sex-offender, er, terrorist, um I mean some watch list!
Yeah, for me, that works well too actually. I was just thinking Ubuntu might be more appropriate for the masses of Windows users that are finally driven over the edge by MS stupidity.
"Windows will stop working, so you might as well install WGA now"
Windows will stop working, so you might as well install Ubuntu now.
There, that's better...
(will we get a soft-linked /etc/init.d though?).
Man I hope not!
I've thought about this already and I have the answer in two words: frozen north.
You're one of those guys who shows up in Toronto with skis in July aren't you?
And here I thought the Canadians were just joking about that one... eh.
I'd like to know if this is an intentional distortion perpetuated by the telecoms, or if this is an honest misunderstanding?
While the optimist in me would love to beleive it's the latter, based on the people who are ant-net-neutrality, namely big telecomms and cable companies, it's impossible for me to accept that these people are simply ignorant of how it works. If they are then they certainly don't deserve the positions they hold within their companies.
https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
:-) -> http://distrowatch.com/
http://www.apple.com/
http://www.debian.org/
http://www.openbsd.org/
in case I missed somebody
( I could go on and on here, no offense to any I left out )
I know you're kidding but I can see them pulling something like this. After a short period of use after purchase (say 3 months) the system boots into a form asking you to pay to continue using Windows. Failure to pay makes the OS inoperable.
And they'll sell it by telling people all the wonderful things they get by subscribing, like security fixes. Of course they won't call them security fixes, they'll call them "Enhancements" or something.
A lot of people who are clueless about this sort of thing will imagine all their pictures, documents and recipes all locked away in their PC and go digging for their wallets.
Actually the more I think about it the more I like it. If they did pull something like this then I can't imagine a better incentive to switch to a different OS.
Bah. Without confirmation from Netcraft I'm not buying any of it.
Is anyone else more than mildly disappointed that they own a bookshelf full of O'reilly books after reading this?
Actually I'd say that's putting it mildly compared with how I feel.
Yeah I have one of those fancy wired cell phones. Had it for years. It's hung on the wall in my kitchen next to the fridge.
Shit, maybe. But do I want to know/think about it?
Well they modded you funny but I found your comments incrediably insightful. :-)
Forever. If super secret, sensitive data is flowing on your wires, a compromise of which would violate national security, why wouldn't you trace, log and spot check *every* packet on your network?
Granted you have a good point. But saying the US has no control over a foreign company is a little broad. If they want to do business in the US they are under the same obligation as any other company to abide by our laws, implement strict quality control if that's what the contract calls for and honor any and all confidentiality agreements. If the US proves that Lenovo's manufacturers are up to shenanigans (patently easy to do btw as others in this thread have pointed out) then Lenovo will be subject to all kinds of punishment and possibly never do business in the US again. And you can bet that any other country that is aware of this type of behaviour will consider Lenovo off limits as well.
Punishing them before any facts or evidence is presented is just trigger happy, scare mongering politics.
Sweet so Open Source is like science and, when applied correctly, leads to incredible advances. Closed source is like witchcraft or alchemy...
MS better find some better spell books or a philosopher's stone...
Not to mention every other PC manufacturer who's PCs are made in China. Dell, HP, Gateway, Acer, show me one PC manufacturer who doesn't have at least some of their PCs assembled in China by Chinese.
Seems kind of arbitrary for them to pick on one company over this.
Ugh. You just used "my parents" and "porn" in the same post. Thanks. I'm going to wash my eyeballs. :-)