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Athens Breeding "Super Mosquitoes"

Chemisor writes "Air pollution and cramped housing conditions in Athens, Greece, are creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster, and can smell humans from farther away. The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe. Beating their wing 500 times a second provides them with extra speed, and the larger bodies (by 0.3ug) presumably allow larger bloodsucking capacity." And in a similar vein (har har) New Scientist had a piece about what mosquitoes like or hate about people.

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  1. Minnesota State Bird by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Growing up, I was ravaged by mosquitoes daily in the summers. There were years when they were particularly bad and they would literally swarm you. They were huge too. If you think it's cold in Minnesota and we don't have mosquitoes, you're wrong. They just had to be that much bigger and drink that much more blood to survive. You would be out playing baseball and three of them would hold you down while another worked his proboscis through your breastplate directly into your heart. Often times there wouldn't be much left of me but skin and bones when I got home. And that was if you were lucky. If there were six or more, oftentimes they'd just grab your shoulders and carry you back to their nest and you'd never be seen again.

    If you have someone that loves "all of God's creatures" then you should throw them in pond filled with mosquitoes and see how long it takes them to become a killing machine. Not very long I'd wager. In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god. Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?

    It seemed that the people who produced the most sweat and breathed the hardest were the most attractive. These features seem to come hand in hand with being overweight but I never really bought the idea that overweight people's blood tasted better. If that were true, all the mosquitoes would have moved to Wisconsin.

    Instead, you'd have mosquitoes buzzing around your mouth & ears. Why? Because I guess they are attracted to carbon dioxide big time. You accumulate natural carbon dioxide in the wells of your ears and it pours out of your mouth. They also somehow detect lactic acid which you'll find about large animals.

    For those of you who don't know, mosquitoes breed in water (when the eggs hatch, they look like this). Not moving water, but standing water. One of the tasks I used to have was laying silage down, putting a tarp over it and weighting the tarp down with old tires. Invariably, rainfall would fill the insides of the tires with just enough water to make them each a breeding well for mosquitoes. It's not a fun job but you have to make sure that all that old scummy water is emptied out otherwise you'd find yourself engulfed with mosquitoes at the end of the summer.

    I've never underestimated mosquitoes, I think they need to be very good at detecting carbon dioxide, scents, heat & water vapor in order to successfully find food for their eggs and lay them. This is quite a task considering what they've got and I think that it's amazing they manage to reproduce at all. I dream of the day when mosquitoes are endangered organisms.

    *mental note* Do not hold Olympic summer games in Athens, Greece.

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    1. Re:Minnesota State Bird by garcia · · Score: 3, Funny

      There were years when they were particularly bad and they would literally swarm you. They were huge too.

      Yeah, it's funny to read this account but it's all too true. I was sitting out on a friend's deck last night and the little fuckers not only got me but got me through my sneakers and through my sock. I now have one of the largest welts *EVER* on my foot in the most uncomfortable spot to itch and irritate :(

      If only mosquitos came with something positive like the Cane Toads... Mmm, licking toads! Unfortunately they only come with West Nile and various other nasty diseases. I don't exactly think that the "high" from West Nile would be as enjoyable ;) Nor watching them smash into your windshield at 80mph on I-35 N is as enjoyable as listening to the toads *pop* in the road when you run over them.

      Bleh :(

    2. Re:Minnesota State Bird by EEJD · · Score: 4, Funny

      The summer games were held there in 2004. Having to catch the sprinters is probably why these mosquitos had to get faster...

    3. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Andrew+Nagy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I spent a couple summers in Minnesota and came to a conclusion... the state motto is incomplete. it should read:

      "Land of Ten Thousand Lakes...and a Hundred Billion Mosquitos."

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    4. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Xzzy · · Score: 1

      This is true in Alaska, as well. Never been to Minnesota, but Alaskan mosquitos are easily twice the size of ones I've seen in other places (in Illinois now, but I've live on both coasts and they have puny bugs too).

      The "state bird" joke is quite common up there, too.

      When biking in the mountains back behind Anchorage, a buddy and I would fight over who had to "ride point" because the bugs could get so thick, we'd quite literally inhale mosquitos, there's so many of them desperate for some blood. Logic was the guy in front parted the wave so the guy in back was saved some of the torture.

    5. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Canthros · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yead, no kidding.

      I took a canoe trip up to the BSA high adventure base on the northern tier several years back as part of a group from the local BSA council. Neat trip on the whole, but I got bit by a mosquito *through* my sleeping bag the first night. Holy hell.

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    6. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Perl-Pusher · · Score: 1

      I was raised in Michigan, and we had the same problem. With 11,000 lakes not including the Great Lakes it makes a haven for them. I think the residents of any State with lakes in the thousands, like Minnesota and Michigan feel your pain. I now live in Virginia, unfortunately I'm close to the "Great Dismal Swamp". Is it wrong to want the extermination of one little species? I promise I will do all it takes to save the spotted owl or some other species. My daughter's legs look like she has the chicken pox.

    7. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Megane · · Score: 2, Funny

      Down here in Texas we like to joke with furriners (non-Texans) by showing them crane flies and saying that those are Texas mosquitoes.

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    8. Re:Minnesota State Bird by scovetta · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's nothing dude! One time, I was driving through Minnesota in my car and a mosquito flew into my winshield, making a small crack in it. As I was distracted from that, it's friend bit me THROUGH THE CAR DOOR! I couldn't believe it, but there I had it, a welt on my arm and a mosquito embedded in my car door.

      I had a friend once who stepped on a mosquito once... the thing just laughed, threw my friend to the ground and bit him until he was on the verge of death. It left a note telling him to leave town or he'd get it again.

      Scary shit.

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    9. Re:Minnesota State Bird by lixee · · Score: 1
      In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god. Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?
      Actually, the quran refers to the study of mosquitoes (among other thing in nature) in order to fully appreciate the greatness of Allah: http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/an/mosquito. html/

      Irony ? ;-)
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    10. Re:Minnesota State Bird by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

      The attraction to carbon dioxide is the principle behind the Mosquito Magnet, which uses propane to (via a catalytic process) produce CO2 and heat, which attracts the Mosquitos. It then sucks them into a net where they dry out and die. Rather a fascinating design. (The more expensive units use the heat generated to drive the fan from a thermopile; although I found that model less reliable than the units that used a DC adapter to power the fans.)

      I have no affiliate with the company, other than being a semi-satisified customer. The units I have caught a major pile of mosquitos; not enough to crush the population in my area, but perhaps they weren't placed strategically enough (upwind, between you and the source, etc., etc..)

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    11. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1
      If you have someone that loves "all of God's creatures" then you should throw them in pond filled with mosquitoes and see how long it takes them to become a killing machine. Not very long I'd wager. In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god. Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?
      Speaking as someone who upholds strict religious and moral convictions of respect for all life, to the point where I'm known for catching flies or spiders in a cup and chucking them outside rather than squashing them... I'll smash a damned mosquito on my arm without question.

      Had that mosquito not been destined for squashing by whatever divine forces one may believe in, it wouldn't have landed on the grandson of a mid-20th-century malaria patient.
    12. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      "If that were true, all the mosquitoes would have moved to Wisconsin."

      They did. Only the small and weak mosquitos didn't have the energy to migrate, so they stayed in Minnesota. We get the ones that look like this.http://correl.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/ stirge.gif

    13. Re:Minnesota State Bird by NETHED · · Score: 1, Funny

      snip propane to (via a catalytic process) produce CO2 and heat
      /snip
      Also know as burning propane.

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    14. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Karthikkito · · Score: 1

      Flack jacket? =)

    15. Re:Minnesota State Bird by kalel666 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh man. Mosquitos in Alaska have ticks.

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    16. Re:Minnesota State Bird by just_another_sean · · Score: 1, Funny

      I had a friend once who stepped on a mosquito once... the thing just laughed, threw my friend to the ground and bit him until he was on the verge of death. It left a note telling him to leave town or he'd get it again.

      Wait, are we talking about mosquitos or Chuck Norris?

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    17. Re:Minnesota State Bird by sckeener · · Score: 1

      For those of you who don't know, mosquitoes breed in water
      Your How stuff works link mentions that the Aedes mosquitoes can lay their eggs on dry land too. They are the worst. I live in Houston (ex-swamp) and when we have draughts the Aedes mosquitoes will lay their eggs anywhere...imagine mosquitoes laying eggs over and over that don't hatch because there is no water.... .....and then the draught ends. We have flooding, the eggs get wet, we get super swarms of blood sucking mosquitoes.

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    18. Re:Minnesota State Bird by bcat24 · · Score: 1

      There's a difference?

    19. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      True fact: Chuck Norris once roundhouse kicked a mosquito. After the first kick, the mosquito was still alive. So he had to kick it again.

    20. Re:Minnesota State Bird by MECC · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The worst mosquitoes I ever saw were in Minnesota at a military toxic superfund clean up site (not yet cleaned up). They told us not to dig more than an inch into the ground. We were setting up microwave shots for military cellphone towers. I covered myself in DEET. I was ruthlessly swarmed, and they were biting me on my eyelids (up to my eyelashes, and not just the occasional one either, but swarming my eyelids - I couldn't stand to put DEET in my eyes, so they swarmed them), lips, and inside my ears - the only places not soaked in DEET. No kidding- it was unbelievable.

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    21. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mosquitoes drink blood; Chuck Norris drinks gasoline.

    22. Re:Minnesota State Bird by larkost · · Score: 1

      There we go... now you are getting it!

    23. Re:Minnesota State Bird by LordVader717 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Is it wrong to want the extermination of one little species?

      Correction: About 3500 different species of the family Culicidae.

    24. Re:Minnesota State Bird by scovetta · · Score: 1

      Wait, are we talking about mosquitos or Chuck Norris?

      Obviously, Chuck Norris would have just given my friend a roundhouse kick -- no need to bite him.

      Good thought, though.

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    25. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *mental note* Do not hold Olympic summer games in Athens, Greece.

      Well, yeah - have you seen their athletic facilities? They look like they're thousands of years old! And they're WAY overdue for some maintenance, too - some of them are actually starting to fall apart!

    26. Re:Minnesota State Bird by thenymph · · Score: 1

      Wow, what a weird coincedence! I just stumbled on this article today about certain people's predisposition to be a victim of a mosquito attack vs. someone who never manages to get attacked. Some interesting stuff. Seems that you are more likely to get attacked if you are exuding higher levels of colestoral, uric acid or expelling me C2. BTW, I am not a fan of AOL, I just play one on TV. http://aolsvc.health.webmd.aol.com/content/Article /90/100719.htm?pagenumber=1

    27. Re:Minnesota State Bird by eugman · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually, most spiders you find in your house are accustomed to that enviroment and will die outside. There are few species that live both indoors and out.

    28. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Canthros · · Score: 1

      Hey. *You* think I'm *kidding*.

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    29. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Jethro · · Score: 1

      This is my 9th summer living in Minnesota, and for the past two years there've been VERY few mosquitoes. I'm not complaining, but it does make me wonder how much poison I'm breathing, eating, drinking and swimming in...

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    30. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Ucklak · · Score: 1

      Like freaking Sea Monkies.

      I've lived in the southeast and I thought they had mosquitos bad but it sounds like the midnorth has it worst.

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    31. Re:Minnesota State Bird by srw · · Score: 1

      Here in Saskatchewan we even pay homage to the mosquito on our license plates:

      "Land of Living Skies"

    32. Re:Minnesota State Bird by garcia · · Score: 3, Interesting

      DEET doesn't stop them now. They will swarm you for about 5 minutes and then ignore the DEET and bite anyway. They are absolutely insane.

      The worst is when they swarm and hover outside of all building openings because they can detect the CO2 inside and wait for humans to exit. It's nasty.

      I am a huge outdoorsman and I pretty much refuse to do anything in the woods from May through September. The ticks (deer, as I've had lymes already) and the mosquitos are just unbearable. Now we have to deal with even *more* invasive poisionous plant species like Wild Parsnip.

      Minnesota sucks ;)

    33. Re:Minnesota State Bird by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Hmm....these all sounds like 'pussy' mosquitoes.....we've had monster mosquitoes down here in southern Louisiana for decades that could kick about any other skeeter's ass.

      After all...it IS our state bird....hahaha.

      I remember years back, I bought a t-shirt down here with a pic of a mosquito that took up about the whole front of the shirt, with its mouth stuck into a tiny little hurricane glass. Below the picture in small type it said "(Actual Size)".

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    34. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oxidizing yes, burning no.

    35. Re:Minnesota State Bird by geobeck · · Score: 1

      I've been to Minnesota. I didn't think the mosquitoes were all that bad. Of course, I grew up in northern Manitoba.

      There are times, up there, when you just don't go outside because of the mosquitoes. Huge swarms of the things. Even Muskol doesn't do any good because there are so many of them, you walk through clouds of them, inhaling them with every breath. If you look across a field to the trees near the lake on a still evening, you can see a cloud of mosquitoes rising up to 50 feet above the treetops, a great gray smudge blocking out the setting sun.

      The noise keeps you awake at night, the cumulative hum of a billion bugs. Despite their size, they will squeeze through the smallest flaw in your window screen and terrorize you all night. And if you slap one in the morning, be prepared to clean up a big spot of blood from their overnight suckage. And if you use enough Raid to kill them, you run the risk of poisoning any people who happen to be in the house. Mosquito fogging outside? Forget it; it's like using a cocktail umbrella in a hurricane.

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    36. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

      That's true, but outside they have a fighting chance at either finding someplace else they can live, or feeding some otehr creature. Either way, I find it more useful than squashing them and chucking them in the trash.

    37. Re:Minnesota State Bird by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      Mosquitoes drink blood; Chuck Norris drinks gasoline. - correction. Chuck Norris puts gasoline on fire and then drinks it.

    38. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a program around here in San Francisco, where they have bikers toss a little salt based pellet into any standing water they see on their paths. You should just find/get/or just put salt (or the other stuff which is better) into the tires after tossing them in. when they fill with rain water the mosquitos can't leave their eggs there. or you could use something other than tires or...cover the tires!

    39. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Schraegstrichpunkt · · Score: 1

      You have to know that that sounds like a terribly weak excuse. If the majority of the spiders you take outside will die, and you know this, but you don't know specifically which ones will die, does that make you a more moral person (if you think that killing the spiders is immoral)?

    40. Re:Minnesota State Bird by gunnk · · Score: 2, Funny

      when we have draughts the Aedes mosquitoes will lay their eggs anywhere

      When mosquitoes start laying egges IN MY BEER I'll know it's time to move.

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    41. Re:Minnesota State Bird by biotic · · Score: 1

      Up in northern Canada we have mosquitos so big you have to call them 'Sir'.
      And this year one bloodsucker got elected as Prime Minister...

    42. Re:Minnesota State Bird by RetroGeek · · Score: 1
      The units I have


      Ah yes, but the best place for these things is the yard next door.
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    43. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1
      You have to know that that sounds like a terribly weak excuse. If the majority of the spiders you take outside will die, and you know this, but you don't know specifically which ones will die, does that make you a more moral person (if you think that killing the spiders is immoral)?
      No person is "more moral" than another, that's like saying one human is "more mammal" than another. Everyone has their own morals.

      My yard has lots of trees, full of birds that eat bugs. It's also full of plant and animal life that benefits from dead bugs in the soil. Throwing a single spider out into the mix might not have a measurable effect for better or worse, but I personally feel better keeping it part of the immediate environmental life cycle rather than squashing it on a tissue, throwing it away, and having it end up in some landfill or being bleached into sludge in some recycling plant. It's not killing the spiders that I find immoral, so much as wasting them when they could go to better use.

      Nature FTW. Those are my morals.
    44. Re:Minnesota State Bird by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I am a huge outdoorsman and I pretty much refuse to do anything in the woods from May through September.

      um, then you really aren't a huge outdoorsman; for good reason, but still...i dont' know how to end this sentence.

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    45. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quote from by eldavojohn (898314) - "It seemed that the people who produced the most sweat and breathed the hardest were the most attractive. These features seem to come hand in hand with being overweight but I never really bought the idea that overweight people's blood tasted better. If that were true, all the mosquitoes would have moved to Wisconsin." - end quote.

      Seems Minnesota is ranked 25th fattest and Wisconsin is 34th. Hmmm Guess when it comes to research and calculations Minnesota is probably not ranked as well as Wisconsin either.

      http://www.nanitek.com/archives/2004/10/americas_f attes.php

      Albeit that was late 2004, it is not likely too change that much in 1.5 years. Unless all the big people from Minnesota moved to Wisconsin. Errhummm better quality of life, etc.

      Athens is a beautiful city, sure the have the "oxi" attitude, but what large city doesn't?

    46. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      > Growing up, I was ravaged by mosquitoes daily in the summers.

      Speaking of which, if I were God (remember to vote for me instead of Yahweh next time), instead of parasitic insects, I'd have populated the world with flying creatures that attacked you and forced you to have an orgasm.

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    47. Re:Minnesota State Bird by gryphoness · · Score: 2, Funny

      It doesn't actually snow in Minnesota, North Dakota, etc. The mosquitoes just freeze and fall out of the sky.

    48. Re:Minnesota State Bird by jamstigator · · Score: 1

      I participated in the invasion of Grenada back in the 80s. For some insane reason, my 'superiors' decided to build our radio site at the bottom of a valley, right next to a small swamp. Being that this was a tropical area, swamp meant mosquitoes, in mind-boggling numbers. The Cuban POWs screaming next door were annoying, but eventually they were gone, but the swamp and the mosquitoes remained.

      My mosquito-prevention methods reflected the harshness of living next to a swamp in the tropics. To get ready to (try to) sleep, about an hour before sunset I would close my tent up tight, then set afire a coffee can half-full of mosquito coils. It was not uncommon for me to hear newly-arrived people screaming "fire!" at all the smoke pouring out of my tent. Once those coils had burned down, I'd slip into my tent, open the doors to get some breeze going, then light three more mosquito coils right beneath my cot. While that smoke was billowing up around my cot, I'd slip under the mosquito netting, then spend ten or fifteen minutes finding and killing the mosquitoes that had somehow managed to slip beneath the net and were still alive. Finally, I'd try to sleep. And even after this comprehensive ritual of mosquito destruction, I'd still wake up each morning heavily bitten, with half a dozen blood-plumped mosquitoes clinging to my netting.

      These weren't particularly large mosquitoes. What they lacked in individual size though, they more than made up for in sheer numbers and determination to feast on human blood. One soldier was apparently allergic to mosquito bites. By the second or third day there he was just covered in huge red welts, and had to be shipped back to the States on the next flight back to Fort Bragg.

      I've hunted and camped all over the U.S., and other countries as well, but in terms of nasty mosquitoes *nothing* compared to that swampy area in that valley in Grenada. It was the stuff of nightmares.

    49. Re:Minnesota State Bird by blugu64 · · Score: 1

      Obviously you've never seen Texas mosquito's

      Here's what we use to catch them
      http://www.paulsslides.com/images/mosquito-trap.jp g

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    50. Re:Minnesota State Bird by buswolley · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Insects.. watch out. I once caught a bumble bee between a metal window screen and the glass.

      I watched as the bugger used its pincers or mouth, to cut through the wires one by one until it had a hole the size of a dime in the screen. Damn!

      Those who think screens are enough, think again.. Just don't motivate them to get past it.

      By the way, THIS actually happened.

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    51. Re:Minnesota State Bird by rkcth · · Score: 1

      I know you were being facetious, but I wanted to answer your question "Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?". Creationists believe the world was created perfect, before the "curse". So in a very real sense, mosquitos ARE a curse. I have read articles that say that mosquitos would not need to suck blood to feed their young IF there was a greater concentration of oxygen and greater atmospheric pressure, which was what an earlier world looked like. So there was very likely a time when mosquitos did not drink blood.

    52. Re:Minnesota State Bird by PhotoGuy · · Score: 2, Informative

      snip propane to (via a catalytic process) produce CO2 and heat /snip
      Also know as burning propane.

      It actually uses platinum beads to oxidize the propane without a flame. Maybe someone with some greater chemistry background can expand upon that... It's not like a BBQ, by any means...

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    53. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "wild parsnip"? Heh. Just wait. The description on the site you link sounds like our Giant Hogweed... only Not Giant. Giant hogweed is very common in the countryside in Britain (and Ireland), It's something that looks quite like your "wild parsnip", only it is 10-15 feet tall and its chemical+u.v. burns kill some fool every once in a while, making for a tragically amusing tabloid headline or two. Actually, turns out giant hogweed has invaded America now too: http://dnr.metrokc.gov/wlr/lands/Weeds/hogweed.htm .

    54. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahahahaha, I just got back from Houston and I'm dating a girl in Louisiana. You're mosquitoes are adorable little things, tiny and black. I'm from Michigan and the brown, nearly bee-sized bastards that roam Minnesota, Wisconson, and our Upper Peninsula would give you nightmares.

    55. Re:Minnesota State Bird by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

      > Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?

      Because Heaven didn't want em, and Hell wouldn't take em.

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    56. Re:Minnesota State Bird by WCD_Thor · · Score: 0

      Why the fuck are these idiots building bigger, bader mosquitos?! I'm surprised that the first post wasn't asking this. I don't care if it will lead to beter things later, its an act of pure evil to unleash mosquitos on the world that can detect people from even further away. I bet if one gets out and finds a radiation hotspot, we will all be fucked-fuck movies about dragons putting us back into the dark ages, we should be worried about giant bugs doing it instead.

    57. Re:Minnesota State Bird by AnalystX · · Score: 1

      That's pretty humorous, and I know Minnesota has some pesky mosquitos, but I haven't seen Florida mentioned in all the replies. I've been to all the contiguous United States, as well as Mexico and Canada, but the nastiest mosquitos I've ever run across were in the Florida Everglades, just north of the keys. Visiting during the summer months, you'd think the military devised a new form of weapon with its own A.I. Fortunately they only follow you around for a couple hundred miles before giving up. I think my family lost the last Everglade Mosquito Mafia(tm) that was following us just north of KSC.

    58. Re:Minnesota State Bird by MojoStan · · Score: 1
      In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god. Why would a being of infinite good unleash such a horrible plague upon man?

      Church-goers have a different view of mosquitos. Ned Flanders said it best:

      Homer Simpson: Come on, Flanders, there's gotta be something you hate. What about mosquito bites?
      Ned Flanders: Mmm mmm! Sure are fun to scratch! Mmm! Satisfying!

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    59. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bah, you guys have nothing. Over in this part of the world we have Aedes. They can cause Dengue and Yellow Fever, you'll die slowly, painfully and in some cases bloodily.

    60. Re:Minnesota State Bird by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      Read the fucking article.

      That is all.

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    61. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Meph_the_Balrog · · Score: 2, Funny

      Here in Darwin Australia, we had one once that reportedly landed at the airport, and the maintenance crews put eight thousand litres of aviation fuel in it before they realised it was a mosquito.

    62. Re:Minnesota State Bird by kesuki · · Score: 1

      seriously though, female mosquitos are the ones who suck blood, and it's usually around 'mating season' which as any minnesotan would tell you is 'every day' :)

      i remember reading that the male mosquitoes are vegitarians, but i can't remember if it was accurate. still even if that study was wrong females definitely suck more blood, to produce more eggs to hatch more mosquitoes. it's a vicious cycle.

    63. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was it necessary to degenerate into jig patois for this post?

    64. Re:Minnesota State Bird by WCD_Thor · · Score: 1

      My bad. I hope someone goes on a rampage to kill these things. If I had a flame thrower I would burn every god damned bug in my path, hehehehe. More fun than chemicals because 1) fire is cool, and 2) you don't risk killing or hurting animals if you know how to aim.

    65. Re:Minnesota State Bird by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      yes, because He's not white, either

    66. Re:Minnesota State Bird by dr_light · · Score: 1

      Apparently, smoking also makes you unattractive for mosquitoes. It seems to be confirmed in my case, now that I've stopped smoking.

    67. Re:Minnesota State Bird by mgblst · · Score: 1

      You know, that is it only the pregnant females that bite? Surprised, well I'm not!

    68. Re:Minnesota State Bird by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      One word: Napalm.

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    69. Re:Minnesota State Bird by hey! · · Score: 1

      They were huge too. If you think it's cold in Minnesota and we don't have mosquitoes, you're wrong.

      Mosquitoes don't live on blood. They live on nectar. The females use blood proteins for creating eggs.

      If you have a short season, the females will have to get their blood meal and lay as many clutches of eggs as they can in that short time.

      It seemed that the people who produced the most sweat and breathed the hardest were the most attractive.

      Yes that's correct. Water vapor, body heat and CO2 are all attractants, as well as other volatile compounds. The Aedes and Ochlerotatus genera are particularly attracted to CO2, including the common treehole mosquitoes (Oc sierrensis in the west, Oc triseriatus in the east) that are common in woodland environments.

      Not moving water, but standing water. One of the tasks I used to have was laying silage down, putting a tarp over it and weighting the tarp down with old tires.

      Not just water -- they prefer water with organic. In fact there is a kind of trap called a gravid trap that is designed to attract ovipositing females. It's baited with organic material like hay and straw, which makes it smell to the mosquito like a great place to lay eggs.

      Tires are tremendous breeders of "container" species which include some aggressive biters. The biological strategy is to emerge en masse after the container has been flooded by rainfall, ensuring a chance to mate. Unless the tires were treated, it's certain the smell of hay attracted ovipositing females, and if the tires could collect water, generate container breeders in huge amounts.

      Most professional mosquito control agencies do not bother trying to keep tires dry. They either remove the tires for shredding, or they treat them with a 130 day residual briquette. They aren't available to home owners, but you can get BTI donuts and you can chuck them in the tires or containers or whatever every month or so. Some places that do a lot of this split the donuts in two -- they're labeled as good for treeting 100 sq ft of open water.

      I can attest that tire and container breeders are extremely aggressive biters. I had a huge mosquito problem in my yard. I hunted around and found a single treehole with no more than one to two pints of mucky water that was boiling with larvae. I'm not a taxonomist but the adults did not have the slender abdomen and silvery thorax scales of triseriatus; given my suburban location there was a high probability that the mosquitoes were Culex pipiens (aka the "house mosquito"). A bucket of sand eliminated the problem.

      With respect to the "State Bird", I believe that your state is in the range of Psorophora ciliata. This is a woodland species that breeds in rain puddles and vernal pools and such. It's a huge; it's easy to mistake for a hummingbird. It's a very aggressive biter, but fortunately because of its size is easy to avoid. It's the little buggers that are hard to spot that are the worst.

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    70. Re:Minnesota State Bird by StalinsNotDead · · Score: 1

      fire is cool

      Someone needs a refresher course on temperature.

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    71. Re:Minnesota State Bird by ultranova · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia, the mosquitos are eaten by YOU !

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    72. Re:Minnesota State Bird by WCD_Thor · · Score: 1

      I plan on making some napalm some day, its not that hard, but napalm would be hard to use to kill flying bugs unless I figured out a way to make a reliable sprayer for it.

    73. Re:Minnesota State Bird by WCD_Thor · · Score: 1

      AHAHAHAHAHA, your so fucking funny man!

    74. Re:Minnesota State Bird by stunt_penguin · · Score: 1

      "napalm would be hard to use to kill flying bugs "

      Oh it;d be easy to kill flying bugs, it's just a question of not obliterating everything else within a 100m radious _^^

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    75. Re:Minnesota State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'll be there in a month, I'm getting worried at reading all these mosquito storys. I hope they are all just exagerating, or at least mostly exagerating.

  2. "Mosquitoe"? by daveschroeder · · Score: 1, Funny

    Did Dan Quayle write this summary?

    The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe.

    1. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by BWJones · · Score: 2, Informative

      Did Dan Quayle write this summary?

      As much as I would like to make fun of Quayle, mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour is the British spelling of color.

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    2. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by thc69 · · Score: 1, Funny

      Dave, you ignorant slut! It was potato, not tomato.

      Obviously, the dog is on fire.

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    3. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by daveschroeder · · Score: 1

      Ah...there are quite many references to Qualye and "tomatoe" when I searched, so I assumed that must have been the one. But, indeed, there are more references to the actual "potatoe" incident.

    4. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by malkavian · · Score: 1

      It is? Wonder why I've been buying Mosquito repellent in England then (for a quick trip abroad)..

    5. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by gEvil+(beta) · · Score: 1

      Ah...there are quite many references to Qualye and "tomatoe" when I searched, so I assumed that must have been the one.

      That's because the two make a very delectable dish when prepared together. You can also throw some potatoes in there if you'd like.

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    6. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by BWJones · · Score: 1

      It is? Wonder why I've been buying Mosquito repellent in England then (for a quick trip abroad).

      Look on the container..... Where is it made? My understanding is that most repellent (with DEET) is made in the US.

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    7. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      ...mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour...


      "Informative"? Bwaaahahah, mods are so gullible.
    8. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For those few who haven't figured it out yet, most of the things ascribed to Quayle were made up by his liberal opponents.

    9. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by g0at · · Score: 1

      As much as I would like to make fun of Quayle, mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour is the British spelling of color.

      Do y'all eat a potatoe with your dinner over there, too? :)

      -b

    10. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Do y'all eat a potatoe with your dinner over there, too? :)

      Funny....., but no. Dan's just illiterate along with a few other choice individuals currently in government.

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    11. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by carpe_noctem · · Score: 1

      The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe.

      Either we're dealing with a poor speller, or a half-English, half-American editor who can't make up his mind as to which spelling dictionary he should use...

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    12. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Sam+Nitzberg · · Score: 1

      So, Dan Quayle is British ???

    13. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1

      Why aren't you Informative yet?

    14. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Counterexample: the de Havilland Mosquito, a British warplane from the Second World War.

      (yes, I know you're trolling.)

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    15. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by master811 · · Score: 1

      Where did you get that idea from? It is definitely Mosquito (with no "e"). The "e" is only used in the plural - "Mosquitoes"

    16. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Da_Weasel · · Score: 1

      Made up!? Maybe you would like to give us an example?

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    17. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by whitehatlurker · · Score: 2, Interesting
      mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour is the British spelling of color.
      Bull!

      Perhaps this might be more meaningful:
      % echo colour | spell -b
      % echo color | spell -b
      color
      % echo mosquito | spell -b
      % echo mosquitoe | spell -b
      mosquitoe

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    18. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

      re:"As much as I would like to make fun of Quayle, mosquitoe is the British spelling much like colour is the British spelling of color."

      And how they spell "food" as "haggis" (and several other astoundingly other non-food sounding varients).

    19. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by malkavian · · Score: 1

      Made in Cambridgeshire. Definitely UK.. Methinks it's one of those that the lines are blurring on between English and US English. I've always spelled it without the 'e' at the end (I'm a Brit).. Seemed odd to see it with an 'e' there..

    20. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Well, it's interesting in that I've asked a couple of folks here (a Scott and a Welshman) and they both said with an "e". I have always spelled it without the "e", but that's the way I was taught. So, that combined with this publication reference I have from 1989 suggests that at least some folks think it's proper. While others here on Slashdot are more adamant about it being spelled without the "e". The original article referenced for this post spelled it with an "e" and other BBC articles on mosquitos have spelled it with an "e", so $#!^ if I know. I am just a neurobiologist, not an English major and was trusting my handy little American/Canadian/British publication manual to be correct when I made the original post.

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    21. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Poppycock and balderdash. Mosquito is the british spelling of mosquito. Tomato is the british spelling of tomato. Tomatoes is the british plural (plural: a variant of a word you use for "more than one" of something) of tomato. Mosquitoes is the british plural of mosquito. Toe, however is the british spelling of toe, and toes is the british plural of toe. Damn inconsistent brits.

    22. Re:"Mosquitoe"? by tezbobobo · · Score: 1

      colour is the french spelling, like honour

  3. Hemos, eh? by dreddnott · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your name is strikingly apropos to the subject, my friend.

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  4. Color vision by BWJones · · Score: 5, Informative

    Regular mosquito species are dichromats. In other words, all mosquitos, like many insects that I know of have color vision. Some insects like bees are actually trichromats (like humans), but have their photopigments tuned higher up in the spectrum. So, super mosquitos having color vision is no different than regular mosquitos, unless they have developed a third chromophore which the article does not state.

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    1. Re:Color vision by Oligonicella · · Score: 2, Informative

      Don't short-change insects, some have six or so.

      http://jeb.biologists.org/cgi/content/full/208/4/6 87

      "For instance, papilionid butterflies have six opsins, one UV, one blue and four LW..."

      FYI SW, MW and LW are "short wavelength (SW, 300-400 nm), middle wavelength (MW, 400-500 nm) and long wavelength (LW, 500-600 nm)" - same source.

      For info, bees are UV,green,blue.

    2. Re:Color vision by larkost · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Just a small note: most mammals are bichromats (except a large swath of primates, including us... and we are just barely trichromats). But most other land vertebrates are quadchromats. There is a nice article on this in the latest Scientific American. Note that this is in the print edition, and so the full article is not available free online.

    3. Re:Color vision by whitehatlurker · · Score: 1
      the full article is not available free online ...

      But can be purchased at your nearest magazine store for a reasonable price.

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    4. Re:Color vision by BWJones · · Score: 1

      Oh, I totally agree. Humans are pretty substantially color challenged even among the vertebrates as there are other species like turtle, and even fish that have much more sophisticated retinas than humans.

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    5. Re:Color vision by badmammajamma · · Score: 1

      We are also substantially smell and hearing challenged, but you probably already knew that.

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    6. Re:Color vision by tanguyr · · Score: 1

      We are also substantially smell and hearing challenged, but you probably already knew that.

      But on the bright side, all those animals with better smell and hearing taste great!

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  5. Makes no sense by Quasar1999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If this is happening due to many humans being in even smaller spaces, why the hell does the insect need color vision, and the ability to smell humans from even FARTHER away? I don't see how that need could have evolved to be beneficial... the speed thing I can see... I'm truly confused as to why such a feature would evolve with seemingly no benefit.

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    1. Re:Makes no sense by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Duh, because in cramped spaces full of humans, it only makes sense that insects with better vision and smell will evolve. Nothing like bumping into food every few meters to make good eyesight an evolutionary necessity.

    2. Re:Makes no sense by BWJones · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm truly confused as to why such a feature would evolve with seemingly no benefit.

      Color vision is a distinct evolutionary advantage in a number of settings. As I said before however, regular mosquitos have some form of color vision with two photopigments. Bees have three photopigments that are tuned up into the UV portion of the spectrum so they can better identify pollinating flowers. For mosquitos, perhaps a little color vision would help them to better identify easy meals like pink apes rather than tougher meals like animals with lots of hair....

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    3. Re:Makes no sense by rovingeyes · · Score: 1
      ...why the hell does the insect need color vision?...

      May be they are racist? ;)

    4. Re:Makes no sense by Lave · · Score: 3, Funny
      If this is happening due to many humans being in even smaller spaces, why the hell does the insect need color vision, and the ability to smell humans from even FARTHER away? I don't see how that need could have evolved to be beneficial... the speed thing I can see... I'm truly confused as to why such a feature would evolve with seemingly no benefit.

      Well one big factor with evolution is having the energy to run your body. Humans spends a vast percentage of the energy we generate on keeping are brain's ticking over - which we can only maintain because the brain allows to us generate enough food to make that reasonable. Where most animals have as stupid a brain as they can get away with - as it's cheaper to run.

      These insects already had color vision, the ability to smell humans from a distance, and bodies - but the greater population of humans created a situation where they can afford to grow bigger, afford to run more powerful noses and afford better vision- as there is enough food to support the greater level of energy these "improved" bodies require to be sustained.

      Likewise - if food becomes scarce for these animals evolution will lead to them becoming more fuel efficient again.

      This is analogous to the situation facing Americans and their SUVs.

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    5. Re:Makes no sense by mrxak · · Score: 1

      The only thing I can figure is that these advancements were made possible by the increase in size- due to excessive food- and that since there's certainly nothing disadvantageous about them, they've been passed on to subsequent generations.

    6. Re:Makes no sense by debianlinux · · Score: 1

      Your food availability hypothesis falls apart in face of the fact that mosquitoes do not require blood for sustenance. The blood is only drawn by female mosquitoes for the eggs. Male and non-gestating female mosquitoes have the same diet as most butterflies. IOW, the food supply is not a factor.

    7. Re:Makes no sense by Mantorp · · Score: 1, Funny
      perhaps a little color vision would help them to better identify easy meals like pink apes rather than tougher meals like animals with lots of hair....

      To mosquitos in Greece those two would be indistinguishable.

    8. Re:Makes no sense by Lave · · Score: 1
      Your food availability hypothesis falls apart in face of the fact that mosquitoes do not require blood for sustenance. The blood is only drawn by female mosquitoes for the eggs. Male and non-gestating female mosquitoes have the same diet as most butterflies. IOW, the food supply is not a factor.

      It does if you make the assumption that blood is the only way a large city like athens increases the food available to mosquitoes.

      But more importantly - I disagree - male Mosquitoes die within a few days - and typically only feed after mating - so are not particulary important when it comes to sexual selection. But the diet of blood that the female uses to lay eggs keeps her alive for weeks and so this increased food supply will do as I outlined.

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    9. Re:Makes no sense by Colourspace · · Score: 1

      If conditions were that cramped and it WAS so easy to find food/sustenance, then why WOULD they need to evolve? I don't see your point?

    10. Re:Makes no sense by Turn-X+Alphonse · · Score: 1

      You just proved why they must evolve. If most humans are collected together then so are the bugs, so the best bug ets to thrive while the weaker ones slowly die out. Being bigger, faster and stroger means you can get more blood quicker and then back off while the others get killed.

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    11. Re:Makes no sense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

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    12. Re:Makes no sense by MrFebtober · · Score: 1

      According to the article there is much air pollution and also insect repellents to deal with to get to that abundant food (people). It is possible that the push for these skeeters to have larger body size could have been driven by the need to be able to absorb more oxygen from the air. the other changes, vision, smell, etc., could have occured as fringe benefits, but it is the larger size that has allowed them to out-compete the other mosquitoes.

      It is usually harsh survival that drives evolutionary change, not an abundance of food. With abundant food, competition is low. Everybody eats, everybody lives, even the disadvantaged. When food is low, competition is high, only the advantaged (in this case the larger mosquitoes) survive. This leads me to believe that it is more likely the pollution or some other factor that has caused the change in the mosquitoes, and not the crowded population of Athens. There is abundant food, but the environment in which that food exists is harsher than before.

    13. Re:Makes no sense by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      Nothing like bumping into food every few meters to make good eyesight an evolutionary necessity.


      When the "food" is loudly cursing your ancestors and flailing at you with hands and flyswatters, good eyesight is very useful indeed.

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    14. Re:Makes no sense by KDR_11k · · Score: 1

      It'd be harder to find food in a city so they'd evolve to be better at finding nectar?

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    15. Re:Makes no sense by sysopd · · Score: 1

      These features did not evolve in the traditional sense, they were merely a product of natural selection. New features evolve through mutation, otherwise they were already present in the mosquito's DNA. The harsh conditions of Athens brought out rare or previously poor traits in the mosquitos. These traits were present and dormant or brought into the mosquito population's genes through interbreeding, migration, etc.

      Evolution relies primarily on genetic mutation which would have taken likely millions of years to evolve the changes witnessed in the Athens mosquitos.

      Nothing evolved here, we're talking about an organism's adaptation to the environment through preexisting genetic makeup.

    16. Re:Makes no sense by pipingguy · · Score: 1


      Or RMS?

    17. Re:Makes no sense by master_p · · Score: 1

      But there are other cities far worse than Athens...for example Instanbul or the city of Mexico (both with over 20 million people and severe problems with air pollution).

      To tell you the truth the last few years we (Athenians, that is!) haven't had much contact with mosquitoes since we never leave windows open anyway in summer (due to extreme heat!), and the air conditioners work overtime.

      But I have noticed some really big bugs from time to time...so big, in fact, that their features could be easily told apart even from two meters away when they stood still.

  6. simple solution... by joe+155 · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...live in the city. The air quality is so bad here I'd be amazed if any mosquitoe could survive long term.

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    1. Re:simple solution... by kannibal_klown · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...live in the city. The air quality is so bad here I'd be amazed if any mosquitoe could survive long term.
      But then you'll have to deal with cockroaches evolving opposable thumbs.
    2. Re:simple solution... by hal9000(jr) · · Score: 3, Informative

      ...live in the city. The air quality is so bad here I'd be amazed if any mosquitoe could survive long term.

      Helloooooo? Athens is a city .

    3. Re:simple solution... by rahrens · · Score: 1

      Didn't you RTFA? It siad that these mosquitos evolved IN ATHENS. Last time I checked, with four million people, Athens is a major city.

      duh...

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    4. Re:simple solution... by ackthpt · · Score: 1

      ...live in the city. The air quality is so bad here I'd be amazed if any mosquitoe could survive long term.

      Right... perhaps the concrete jungle of lower Manhattan. I've been to Athens a couple times and have to tell you, the park around the Acropolis was an absolute dump when I visited. Trash everywhere, long grass, etc. Perfect for breeding mosquitoes. All a mosquitoe needs is a small amount of standing water, capable of growing a bit of algae and they're set. A styrene cup would do nicely.

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    5. Re:simple solution... by mooingyak · · Score: 1

      But then you'll have to deal with cockroaches evolving opposable thumbs.

      I think they have some lawyers in rural areas too.

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    6. Re:simple solution... by falcon8080 · · Score: 1

      They all ready have, their called Lawyers...

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    7. Re:simple solution... by Hortensia+Patel · · Score: 1

      Indeed. Although I've just got back from a few days in Athens, and the air quality was actually surprisingly good. You can walk around all day without then having to go through the traditional London rite of chiselling caked soot out of your nostrils.

    8. Re:simple solution... by DaFallus · · Score: 1

      I take it you've never been to Houston Texas...

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    9. Re:simple solution... by fm6 · · Score: 1
      There's more to air pollution than soot. I grew up in the L.A. basin, and never saw any soot particles. But my lungs were permanently damaged by less obvious pollutants: nitrogen oxide, sulfur dioxide, ozone. L.A. has gotten much better since I left, but only because of strict vehicle emission laws. Athens is said to be working on that too, but I believe it's still pretty bad.

      Anyway, I think insects are a lot more resistant to air pollution than humans.

  7. Quick! by Rendo · · Score: 0

    Find a company located in Athens that specializes in insect repellent and invest invest invest!!!

  8. Nosquito by BadAnalogyGuy · · Score: 1

    Note to self. "Nosquito" is kind of a lame name for repackaged Off. Need better brand name.

  9. I think I smell a Sci-Fi channel movie of the week by MrTester · · Score: 1

    I thought of it first!!
    My idea! Stay away!
    This is perfect. If I had a legitamatley good idea for a movie, Sci-Fi would warp it beyond recognition, but with something like this I bet they would take it word for word!

  10. As one of the luck few... by Jhon · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Some unfortunate people are irresistible to mosquitoes, while the scent of some lucky individuals drives the blood-suckers away.
    ...
    A key chemical identified by Logan as a repellent is also "a natural food additive, so has proven safety", he says. "And because it can be made by plants, it may one day be possible to mass produce it cheaply."
    Great. So lets breed mosquitoes which aren't repelled by us lucky few. Wonderful.
    1. Re:As one of the luck few... by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1, Funny
      Great. So lets breed mosquitoes which aren't repelled by us lucky few. Wonderful.
      That's evolutionary one-upmanship. It's how the game is played. Sorry that your relative advantage is going the way of the Dodo :)

      Welcome to the puss-y inflamed itching-to-all-hell scabbed-over mosquito-bite reality that many of the rest of us have to endure.

      Time to join the normals, I guess... Natural Mosquito Repelling is a pretty lame Super-power, anyway.
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    2. Re:As one of the luck few... by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1
      Natural Mosquito Repelling is a pretty lame Super-power, anyway.
      Better than Natural Female Repelling. :/
    3. Re:As one of the luck few... by Jethro · · Score: 2, Funny
      Sorry that your relative advantage is going the way of the Dodo :)
      It's being beaten to death for sport by dutch settlers?
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  11. why not earlier? by kisrael · · Score: 1

    Random evolutionary question, are there any drawbacks from an evolutionary point of view to the "new design"? If not, that why didn't the variation predominate earlier? Just because the evolutionary drift didn't lean that way?

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    1. Re:why not earlier? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Lack of food?

      Enhanced hunting capabilities often REQUIRES more energy to keep the organism alive, so if Athens wasn't such a fertile feeding ground they wouldn't have had the resources to get bigger/better.

      But don't worry, pretty soon people will be complaining about the glut of birds feeding on the skeeters followed by the glut of cats eating the birds, followed by....

    2. Re:why not earlier? by maubp · · Score: 1

      They are probably specialised for city life : high food (human) density, and potentially they are less tolerant to extremes in temperature (due to living in cities).

      We could try "moving" some to other nice warm cities and see how the cope... Miami perhaps?

    3. Re:why not earlier? by bar-agent · · Score: 2, Insightful

      But don't worry, pretty soon people will be complaining about the glut of birds feeding on the skeeters followed by the glut of cats eating the birds, followed by....

      And then the gorillas freeze to death?

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    4. Re:why not earlier? by joeyspqr · · Score: 1

      No drawbacks. the 'Intelligent Designer' doesn't make mistakes.

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    5. Re:why not earlier? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      It was already said by the first responder but I'll put my two bits in.

      If you are large and have a fast metabolism, you need a lot of food, consistently available, and close together.

      This is why virus's are so much more threatening than in the past. Natural selection makes virus a little bit less horrible with each generation because the ones that kill their host quickly before they can pass to another host are selected against. The closer humans are packed together, the more virulent the virus can remain and still pass on to new hosts.

      Anything we do to control these pests that is successful will create pests that are immune to those controls. Because the 99% you kill are gone in a generation and now the survivors all have varying degrees of immunity to your prior solution. If you don't kill them, it takes longer. Because 99% survive on non-human sources and 1% has this wonderful food supply with no competition and grows in numbers.

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    6. Re:why not earlier? by RsG · · Score: 1

      Nah, this is Athens. It's too warm for them to freeze to death, and besides, large hairy bipeds blend right in with the local crowd :-)

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    7. Re:why not earlier? by GeeksHaveFeelings · · Score: 0

      The (mis)quote is from a Simpsons episode.

    8. Re:why not earlier? by Wes+Janson · · Score: 1

      While funny, how on earth was that considered insightful?

    9. Re:why not earlier? by bar-agent · · Score: 1

      Hell if I know, I just take the mod points when they come!

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  12. Could the converse be true? by general+scruff · · Score: 5, Funny

    This speaks nothing to the possiblity that Athenians are getting smaller, slower, and smellier.

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    1. Re:Could the converse be true? by Clopy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Indeed, we are getting slower and smellier. But smaller? No way. We 've got McDonalds too. We're about to outfat you, you american piece of BigMac :)

    2. Re:Could the converse be true? by general+scruff · · Score: 2, Funny

      Thats Big-n'-Tasty to you!

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    3. Re:Could the converse be true? by GeeksHaveFeelings · · Score: 0

      Nah, the smaller, slower, and smellier ones will get eaten alive by the super-mosquitoes. So we might end up with super-Athenians carrying super-mosquitoes. o_o

  13. Didn't they watch Jumanji? by wiz31337 · · Score: 0

    Didn't these scientists ever watch Jumanji? We do not need super mosquitos, the ones we already have will do.

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  14. Patents... by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The most potent repellent chemical were then isolated by strapping miniature electrodes to the antennae of female mosquitoes and checking their responses to specific compounds. Logan will not divulge the names of the chemicals until they are patented.

    How in the world can a chemical that every human produces be patented? Isn't that prior art? Ridiculous. I could understand if it were some new compound they synthesized, but this is a nothing more than greed.

    Dan East

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    1. Re:Patents... by rts008 · · Score: 1

      I also picked this up- WTF?
      Whatever happened to "for the good of common mankind"?
      Must we PATENT everything for profit?

      I'm starting to feel like Cyberpunk is no longer a game, and is reality ( or heading that way with corporate-run governments - why are we putting up with this?)

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    2. Re:Patents... by Ironsides · · Score: 1

      How in the world can a chemical that every human produces be patented? Isn't that prior art?

      Same way that Aspirin, Penicilin, Insulin and many other chemicals have been patented.

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    3. Re:Patents... by Clazzy · · Score: 1

      Perhaps they're trying to prove the existence of God? If they illegally patent a chemical made by God, He will come down on them like a pile of bricks and sue the crap out of them, thus proving that God exists!

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    4. Re:Patents... by oliverthered · · Score: 1

      I always thought they patented the process of producing the chemical not the chemical itself.

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    5. Re:Patents... by oni · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He did the work to figure it out, he deserves the exclusive right FOR A LIMITED TIME to manufacture it. After that, it goes into the public domain.

      Without that protection, his recipe would be a closely guarded secret and there is the possibility that his death, or a fire in the factory, or a hard drive crash, would result in the formula being lost. Then we all lose. That's the way things used to work, and that's why we can't make violins as good as Stradivarius, or swords out of damascus steel (or buildings out of it for that matter).

      Patents do benefit mankind. It's not this guy's fault that politicians have perverted the system.

    6. Re:Patents... by paulpach · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If noone is able to make a profit out of isolating this chemical, then wtf would they invest in it? The alternatives are simple: * Either you let people patent and make a profit out of a chemical that the human (or non human) body produces, or * Noone bothers isolating the chemical and no human ever benefits from such research. Note that many chemicals are produced by bacterias and mushroms and ppl have just isolated them, patented them and sold them in pills. Your prior art argument would also apply to these. Thanks to that research and attached profit, we are able to treat hundreds of illneses today. Reality is noone will invest millions of dollars "for the good of mankind".

    7. Re:Patents... by hxnwix · · Score: 1

      Is it not the specific application that will be patented? Would the patent merely prevent others from manufacturing repellant containing that particular compound? If so, the patent merely covers the novel usuage of an existing compound, rather than the existing compound itself. And that would be less repellant, no?

    8. Re:Patents... by Alexandra+Erenhart · · Score: 1

      I've heard that some places want to patent their unique species's DNA. That's sounds so sci-fi.

    9. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the article it says the chemical is a natural food additive, and therefore already proven safe. Wouldn't that imply that someone is already manufacturing it?

    10. Re:Patents... by dgatwood · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, according to patent law, he doesn't deserve anything. Patent law does not recognize a discovery as an invention. They can patent a particular means of synthesizing this chemical or extracting it from some other animal or plant, but they cannot and should not be able to patent the discovery itself. Patenting the chemical would be like discovering that you can make some particular type of object out of wood and then patenting trees.

      If they get a patent on this discovery, it will be quite possibly the ultimate affront to God and humanity. Don't be surprised if their lab gets struck by lightning repeatedly (in the same place).

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    11. Re:Patents... by Abcd1234 · · Score: 3, Informative

      or swords out of damascus steel (or buildings out of it for that matter).

      Actually, I believe that particular puzzle has been solved.

    12. Re:Patents... by Threni · · Score: 1

      > Whatever happened to "for the good of common mankind"?

      There's no money in it. And it todays society, we worship money, not human happiness.

      > corporate-run governments - why are we putting up with this?)

      Because most people are stupid, and have been convinced we need all the trappings of government (pointless laws, stupid people writing laws and running the police forces/armies etc) needed to maintain governments, lest we get killed by witches/communists/terrorists/drugs or whatever the straw man of the day happens to be.

    13. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is completely unacceptable to allow the patenting if the chemical. As is obvious, he did not invent the chemical, but merely discovered its existance and application. Granting a patent covering this specific use of it, with specific limitation, is acceptable, but no more. Given a blanket patent for the chemical, those who producre it naturally, without which he would never have had anything, could be sued by him for naturally producing the chemical. Allow such nonsense is no more sane than allowing the patenting of specific strains of plants growing in limited areas of the globe and then procedding to force the original plant owners to pay the patent holders for use of the seeds from the plats they have always posssesed.

    14. Re:Patents... by Golthur · · Score: 1

      I wish I had mod points - this bit of information was very interesting. Instead, a measly reply will have to do :)

      Thank you.

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    15. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And that's why we are doomed as a species. Very few people do anything for anyone else unless they profit from it. Remember that when you're adrift in the ocean begging someone to haul you out, first you must negotiate a price with your would-be rescuer. The world is a much better place for it.

    16. Re:Patents... by Smidge204 · · Score: 1
      Logan will not divulge the names of the chemicals until they are patented. ...

      "It's very exciting," Logan told New Scientist, "because these are totally natural chemicals with an effectiveness that compares favourably to harsher chemicals such as DEET


      Emphasis mine. You can't, or at least shouldn't be able to, patent nature. That's absurd. If the wording hasn't been butchered, it appears that he is not patenting a recipe, he's patenting the chemical itself.

      But hey, maybe I'll take it one step further and patent a "recipe" for bonding two Hydrogen atoms to a single Oxygen atom.
      =Smidge=
    17. Re:Patents... by OmgTEHMATRICKS · · Score: 1

      Prior art?

      I can see it now..

      "What the..? Hey, God, check this out! Someone is trying to patent some human chemicals!"
      "What?! Those bastards! I have prior art on the human body! I'm going to sue them ten ways 'til Sunday! Nobody screws with God's patents, Michael, my boy! Nobody!"

    18. Re:Patents... by Shrithe · · Score: 1

      We figured out Stradivarius too, although this is still disputed. I listened to an NPR story a while ago as well, about a violin maker who'd taken a large chunck of wood from the basement of a cellar during WWII, and made a violin from it. It sounded like a Stradivarius, apparently. It's definitely a quality of the wood, and there's people working on the problem.

    19. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How in the world can a chemical that every human produces be patented? Isn't that prior art? Ridiculous. I could understand if it were some new compound they synthesized, but this is a nothing more than greed.

      While IANAL, I do have 2 patents. You can patent many things.

      You can patent composition of matter (eg a new chemical), but this chemical is not new, so that isn't patentable.

      You can also patent a new process to make an existing chemical (eg, a new way to manufacture the chemical in a cost-effective manner).

      You can also patent the use of an existing chemical for new purposes. Although the article isn't clear, it seems likely this is what they are patenting.

      Perfectly legal.

      And frankly, without a profit motive, a lot of this research would not be carried out.

    20. Re:Patents... by Jeremi · · Score: 1
      Whatever happened to "for the good of common mankind"?


      Philanthropy is great, if you can afford it. Most people have to either find a way to make money, or starve.

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      I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
    21. Re:Patents... by Shrithe · · Score: 1

      And more the point being that it's not likely a trade secret of Stradivarius, he just got lucky in terms of the wood that was available.

    22. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's alcohol. I've learned that if your bloodstream has thrice the legal capacity considered safe to drive mosquitoes will leave you alone. I just spent last evening next to a stagnant lake, setting off fireworks and never got bit once. I was dressed in a pair of shorts, a t-shirt and flip-flops. I grill almost every night in my backyard in nothing more than boxer shorts and never get bit.

    23. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, according to patent law, he doesn't deserve anything. Patent law does not recognize a discovery as an invention. They can patent a particular means of synthesizing this chemical or extracting it from some other animal or plant, but they cannot and should not be able to patent the discovery itself.

      Did you go to law school? If you did, you should ask for your money back. You are fully entitled to patent composition of mattter (eg new chemicals, new drugs, etc). You are fully entitled to patent new, novel uses of existing chemicals.

      Patenting the chemical would be like discovering that you can make some particular type of object out of wood and then patenting trees.

      No, it would be like patenting the new object. Trees are not new, so they are not patentable.

      He will not get a patent on this chemical, because the chemical is not new. He can get a patent on the new, novel use of this existing chemical.

      If they get a patent on this discovery, it will be quite possibly the ultimate affront to God and humanity.

      Affront to God? God doesn't give a shit. What have you been smoking? And where can I get some?

    24. Re:Patents... by mark-t · · Score: 2, Insightful

      How do you propose to enforce his exclusive right to manufacture it when every living human being on the planet is manufacturing it to greater or lesser degrees with their own natural biological processes already?

    25. Re:Patents... by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1
      Don't be surprised if their lab gets struck by lightning repeatedly (in the same place).
      Great, so in addition to mutant super-masquitos, we get million-year-old Martian war machines rising from the ground. Hey, let's just chuck an asteroid at the Earth, stop the core from spinning, get invaded by super-advanced aliens who've never heard of a network firewall, and call it a day.
    26. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yee-ha! Git 'er done!

    27. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, this is just plain wrong in so many ways.

      Check out this article on the current controversy with insulin: http://members.tripod.com/diabetics_world/whenisin sulinnotinsulin.htm

      One notable quote from this article: It's also a good insight into the lack of progress in the treatment of diabetes over the last 70-plus years. We have replaced proven insulin protocols with less effective insulins.

      You state: Thanks to that research and attached profit, we are able to treat hundreds of illneses today.

      That is patently (every pun intended) false. Rather than investing in searches for cures to diseases that don't currently have a cure, companies are wasting their efforts trying to circumvent existing, proven drugs with something less effective simply because they hold the patent on the new drug and their competitor doesn't.

    28. Re:Patents... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Philantropy is selected against.

      1) Get a million dollars- give it all away to help other people with misquito repellents. Done. The only result is maybe more people now.

      2) Get a million dollars- invest it in a new misquito repellent. Sell it and make ten million dollars. Give a million away as charity and invest the rest.

      Short of stealing the money from "cold hearted capitalists" through taxes, after a very short period of time "giving it away for human happiness", the people giving the money away have no more money to give away. If they raise taxes too high, that source goes away too.

      Any time you help a group of people that are a drain on society, the main result is a *larger* group of people that are a drain on society.

      Don't get me wrong- I do charity work. I give money to charity. It makes me feel good to do these things. But it is given out of my *excess* money and *excess* time.

      But logic is logic. You screw the producers in a group, and you end up with no producers. The key is balancing their needs against the rest of society. I think in the case of corporations and executives, that the rewards given them are *way* out of proportion. I think another group of people would take a lot less compensation to do 99% to 100% of the same thing the current batch are doing.

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    29. Re:Patents... by Don_dumb · · Score: 1
      You can't, or at least shouldn't be able to, patent nature
      I wholeheartedly agree, unfortunately there are others who have and are attempting to patent our DNA, I have lost track of this one, so perhaps someone can bring me up to speed.
      Personally I can't see how it is acceptable (the discoverer of the Coelacanth cant patent the fish, so why should the disocverer of parts of the genome).

      And anyway my cells like to copy themseves every now and then and I can't afford that many piracy lawsuits.
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    30. Re:Patents... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Exactly.

      Why would anyone invest their money if the result was "thanks, we'll take this now".

      I understand and agree with the 17 year patent thing.

      If you pick some arbitrary thing and say that you can't make a profit from it, the only result will be that no one will invest any time or energy into that area.

      Letting other people do the work and then trying to appropriate the result "for the good of mankind" is very short-sighted.

      OTH, I don't think corps are pushing hard at extending all these time limits to "infinity and beyond". We need to stop that.

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    31. Re:Patents... by miskatonic+alumnus · · Score: 1

      It's not even a new use of this chemical. The people who currently manufacture it are using it to achieve the same effect for which it will be marketed. What's new?

    32. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > enforce his exclusive right to manufacture

      Nice strawman argument. Patents have never given exclusive rights to manufacture something. The patent in this case would cover this specific application of this specific substance. Stop trolling with these ridiculous arguments.

    33. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > patent nature.

      Nice troll there. Why do so many people here pretend to be complete idiots when it comes to patents? He is not trying to patent nature. Why troll with that wild claim? It is a patent on this specific application of this substance. Patents in the US have always protected this type of innovation. Either you're trolling with ridiculous straw man arguments or you know nothing about the patent system. Either way you should stop wasting bandwidth and /. reader's time.

    34. Re:Patents... by Hard_Code · · Score: 1

      So, maybe we should start patenting mathematical formulas too? Or archeological research? Or recipes? Just because you did some work doesn't make it an invention. Even if all the work was "lost", it would be non-novel to re-produce the experiment. Even without a patent this is a product people would buy and I'm sure companies would sell. I for one will continue to "manufacture" such chemicals regardless of any patent.

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    35. Re:Patents... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      There are a lot of opportunities for patents -

      1. Methods of production
      2. Methods of delivery - encapsulation, control release, etc.
      3. Methods for analyzing how much of it you have.
      4. Methods for combining it with something else to make it work better.
      5. Methods to identify a genetic deficiency making it likely you will stop producing it in the future.

      etc.

    36. Re:Patents... by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Hopefully nature has provided you with some compensatory ability like the ability to attract chicks in a similar manner. I used to have a friend who was so bad that way that waitresses would follow him out of restaurants. Just the halo effect was enough to keep me booked every Friday.

    37. Re:Patents... by dgatwood · · Score: 1

      You are fully entitled to patent new, novel uses of existing chemicals.

      You may patent the use of it for that purpose, but only if the new use is not obvious. Using it for exactly what it has always been used for doesn't qualify in my mind. It is a fascinating discovery. It is not an invention.

      More to the point, though, you cannot get a patent on a discovered substance, and use patents don't buy the manufacturer anything. You can only patent the use of the substance for that purpose, not the sale of the substance for that purpose. A use patent on new ways of using a substance in the process of manufacturing silicon chips is a useful patent. There are a small number of end users of such a thing, and you can potentially detect its use in the finished product. A use patent on using a substance to protect a consumer from mosquito bites is not a useful patent. Tracking down everyone who bought your competitor's product and suing them each individually is hardly a viable business model (though the MPAA certainly tries).

      In short, patenting this is a waste of money and just creates more business for patent lawyers without doing anything to protect the person who made the discovery in any useful way, all the while, creating a nasty setup for frivolous patent lawsuits that these folks will think that they can win but actually can't.

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    38. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I think another group of people would take a
      > lot less compensation to do 99% to 100% of
      > the same thing the current batch are doing.

      Actually, I think the *same* group would do the *same* job for less money. These executives just have corporate boards convinced the market would pay them more. And, the market will pay more, because all the other boards are similarly convinced. It's retarded. The bubble will burst eventually, but that's certainly no excuse.

    39. Re:Patents... by mark-t · · Score: 1
      Perhaps you missed the wording of the post to which I was originally responding.

      "Exclusive right to manufacture" were his own words... I was merely asking him a question about his own statement, not making an assertion of my own.

    40. Re:Patents... by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Mathematical formulas are safe for now because they are _explicitly_ excluded from being patentable.

    41. Re:Patents... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The producers are screwed anyway in capitalism. The ones who make the money aren't the producers, they are the people who employ the producers.

      The ones who get rich have the sole talent of using people, and especially using people's passions and talents against them.

    42. Re:Patents... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1
      Your economic analysis is important and correct. However,

      "The key is balancing their needs against the rest of society."

      is completely wrong. At all times, in all circumstances, the proper guidance for public policy is the maintenance of justice. This means protecting individual rights (which are the only rights that exist.) Any attempt to "balance needs" results in the violation of the rights of those "balanced" against.

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    43. Re:Patents... by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      Thanks for ponting to an interesting article. I don't understand how this differs from forged vanadium steel, which has been used for long enough in high quality tools that a claim of "vanadium steel" is now used even in cheap tools.

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    44. Re:Patents... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      I say "The key is balancing their needs against the rest of society."

      You say "the proper guidance for public policy is the maintenance of justice."

      You seem to think these two statements contradict each other somehow.

      I do not.

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      At the extreme, I see your position saying that if one person legally gains ownership of everything, then the rest of society would just have to starve since we must protect that one person's right to own everything (and not be forced to share it).

      Clearly this is an insane and unrealistic position. Once a small enough group of people owns too much, the larger group will take it from them (legally or by force). So the small group of poeple damn well better balance their needs against the needs of society or they will lose everything (up to and including their lives).

      The only way a small group can prevent this is through force and threat of harm/death. When things grow so extreme that the larger group doesn't care if they are harmed or killed then one of the two groups is toast.

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    45. Re:Patents... by John+Meacham · · Score: 1

      Things are patented for a specific purpose. So, his patent wouldn't disallow anyone else from producing the chemical for other reasons. But it would disallow anyone else selling it as mosquito repellant. It is not the chemical he is patenting, it is the idea of using it as mosquito repellant.

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  15. AHEM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Air pollution and cramped housing conditions in Athens, Greece, are creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster, and can smell humans from farther away.

    Don't you mean:

    "In all his mighty wisdom, God is creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster, and can smell humans from farther away, through his system of Intelligent Design. It is his plan."

    1. Re:AHEM! by pagen · · Score: 1

      I envisioned Zeus coming down from Mount Olympus in Mosquito form. Hooking up with a hot little female mosquito he saw from above. Then procreating a little mosquito version of Hercules.

      But which ever Inteligent Design you like! :-)

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  16. The north of Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'm not sure how big they are exactly, but you should bring your baseball bat.

    1. Re:The north of Canada by RetroGeek · · Score: 1

      Mosquitoes are annoying and it itches.

      Horse flies are bigger (Look at the end of your little finger. That is the body sans wings) and they bite. Right through cloth. And it f-ing HURTS.

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  17. 'Compares favorably' to DEET? by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Generally when somebody says their all-natural product 'compares favorably' to some chemical alternative, them mean that it works 'almost as well'. If it worked better, they'd be saying that it works better than DEET.

    In my experience, DEET does absolutely nothing to repel biting insects from me. If this new stuff 'compares favorably' to DEET, I guess I have nothing to look forward to here.

    It doesn't really have to work though... He just needs to put 'Organic' on the bottle, and people will buy it even if they have no clue what the hell is in there. They'll swear it works too.

    1. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      e just needs to put 'Organic' on the bottle, and people will buy it even if they have no clue what the hell is in there. They'll swear it works too.

      Probably add some fruity fragnace to it. Like citronella, the favoured repellent of the New Agers. CITRONELLA DOES NOT WORK. As for this guy, notice he was doing tests to see which of two victims the mosquitoes preferred. What would happen if both had these mystery chemical in the same amount? Would they both be safe? I doubt it. He would have mentioned that if it actually repelled a hungry mosquito.

    2. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by AsciiNaut · · Score: 2, Informative

      Bad luck. It has been shown that nothing is more effective for longer periods than DEET, but you must cover every exposed area as mosquitoes will still go for DEET-free islands in a sea of DEET. It's well worth reading Fradin and Day's 2002 NEJM review (PDF) of repellents.

      The mosquitos in Athens might be becoming bigger and meaner, but you probably won't catch anything off them other than an annoying itch. However, if visiting tropical areas (or (possibly) NYC), it is essential to avoid mosquito-borne disease. Therefore, as well as covering up and DEETing as recommended as far as is feasible in the daytime, you should (i) bring, and use without fail, a mosquito net every night; (ii) take effective malaria prophylaxis. (Malaria is always unpleasant and frequently fatal: other such diseases (like dengue) can't be treated at all, so preventing bites is an important strategy.) Homeopathic "remedies" don't work. Consult a qualified physician before setting off.

    3. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by Phase+Shifter · · Score: 1
      Anyone remember an article a few years back where they announced a compound in catnip was 25x as effective as DEET?

      From personal experience I can say the stuff works, if you use fresh catnip for brewing a tea.

    4. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      Bad luck. It has been shown that nothing is more effective for longer periods than DEET

      I don't doubt that. However something about me means that if I'm around, nobody near me needs to worry about mosquitos.. They all bite me instead.

    5. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      I don't know about citronella, but I've got some overly-friendly honeybees (they get into everything, looking for water) and have discovered that they can be discouraged by coating stuff with a thin layer of a "flea shampoo" that contains orange oil. I have no idea if it would work against biting insects, as here in the desert we don't have enough of 'em to notice.

      As to the hapless fellow for whom DEET doesn't work, there have always been a few individuals like that. I vaguely recall long-ago research into it noted a possibility of unusual chemicals in their sweat. {D'oh!!)

      In Alaska, DEET works for no one; the mosquitoes are just too voracious (they make Minnesota mosquitoes look downright piddly). Alaskans coat themselves with "bear grease" (literally a layer of stinky grease), or get eaten alive.

      One study found that anemia due to mosquito bites was the leading cause of death in wild cariboo in Alaska and northern Canada -- the evil bugglies literally suck more blood than the animals can spare.

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    6. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      One study found that anemia due to mosquito bites was the leading cause of death in wild cariboo in Alaska and northern Canada -- the evil bugglies literally suck more blood than the animals can spare.

      I just saw a nature documentary about Scandinavia. With global warming, winters are warmer, one effect is that the reindeer now suffer much more from mosquitoes, have a harder time gettgin food as rain falls instead of snow, whihc ices up.

      In Alaska, DEET works for no one; the mosquitoes are just too voracious

      Come to tropical Hong Kong, former malarial death trap. Currently the wet season, 30C. Getting in and out the door with the cloud of mosquitoes hovering outside is somewhat like Hitchcok's The Birds. God help us if someone leaves the door open more tha a few seconds.

    7. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by Reziac · · Score: 1

      That's how mosquitoes are in rural Minnesota too -- open the door long enough for one human to dash inside, and a cloud of mosquitoes zings inside too. Leave the door open for very long and you might as well go back outside yourself. They'll find every hole in every screen; every window that doesn't seal tightly...

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    8. Re:'Compares favorably' to DEET? by aaarrrgggh · · Score: 1

      Got Dengue Fever over christmas. That was when I threw out the last DEET replacement (the new OFF). DEET is nasty stuff, but it does work better than anything else (swat) (swat).

      We also have a tennis-racket bug zapper, but that doesn't work so well...

      The Dengue mosquitoes are about the size of a 747... don't know what these Athenean mosquitoes can hold to them!

  18. Nobody has said it yet... by thc69 · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...so I have to.

    I, for one, welcome our new giant color-seeing long-distance mosquito overlords.

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    1. Re:Nobody has said it yet... by utopianfiat · · Score: 2, Funny

      At some point humans gave birth to super-mosquitoes. We don't know who struck first, but we do know it was the humans that scorched the sky...

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    2. Re:Nobody has said it yet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In mother russia Mosquito Bite YOU!

      no, wait...

  19. All environments breed "super" animals by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see articles saying that cramped conditions and the pollution of high heat and humidity in rain forests breed "super" bugs and plants that are highly dangerous and adapted to their environmental niches. It makes it sound like someone doesn't like cities. When cities and suburbs have been around as long as rain forests, evolution will provide adaptations and species differentiation that may rival the beauty and diversity of the rain forest.

  20. Size? by KingEomer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    How much larger is a 3 microgram mosquito? I think a percentage would be slightly more informative, or at least the weight of a "normal" mosquito.

  21. Metres??? by tygerstripes · · Score: 1

    Correct me if I'm wrong (in which case, sorry), but I though mozzies could detect the increased CO2 concentration from suckable creatures in the air from something in the region of a mile away? At least, females can.
    Okay, I could be wrong, but David Attenborough is like the voice of God to me, so I'll need some convincing.

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  22. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The scientists are not making new mosquitoes. the conditions are causing them to evolve.

  23. Re:I think I smell a Sci-Fi channel movie of the w by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Uhhh....

    Too late.

    Mansquito

    http://www.scifi.com/mansquito/

  24. Re:I think I smell a Sci-Fi channel movie of the w by plague3106 · · Score: 1

    Sci-Fi has already had a movie about mosquetos.

  25. Re:Size? (oops) by KingEomer · · Score: 1

    Errr, I mean how much larger is x + 3 microgram mosquito. (I.e. what is x)

  26. Belize by mcai8rw2 · · Score: 1

    When I was in Belize, not only were there Iguana running around peoples gardens like the common sparrow or blackbird but the mosquitoes were massive.
     
      I mean i'm talking an inch and a half long, socking great legs...absolutely massive.

    Not that it matters.

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    1. Re:Belize by treeves · · Score: 2, Informative

      It sounds like maybe you saw crane flies or another species, not mosquitoes. We have crane flies here in the Pacific NW. They look like giant mosquitoes, but they actually eat mosquitoes.

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    2. Re:Belize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here in northern California we have these things called "Mosquito Hawks". They look just like mosquitoes, except that they are massive. 1-2 inch long bodies with long, spidery legs.

      But, they do not bite humans. They actually eat actual mosquitoes and other smaller insects.

      That doesn't mean they don't look like mosquitoes from hell, though. Ick.

    3. Re:Belize by MrBoombasticfantasti · · Score: 1

      They don't suck blood, but they sure can bite! If really provoked they can and will bite you, with (at least for me) quite unpleasant itchy and painful bumps as the result. Nothing that won't heal, but I've had some bites annoy me for a couple of weeks. So, best to swat them, I'd say...

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    4. Re:Belize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They were probably crane flies, which look like giant death-mosquitos but really aren't.

    5. Re:Belize by abuthemagician · · Score: 0

      Up here in Maine we call em Skeeter Eaters

    6. Re:Belize by sandmaninator · · Score: 1

      The male mosquito is like 3-4 times the size of the female. But only the females bite.

    7. Re:Belize by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      According to wikipedia crane flies don't prey on mosquitos.

    8. Re:Belize by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Crane flies live pretty much anywhere that mosquitoes can, meaning anywhere with moisture. So they're very widespread.

      However, they don't eat mosquitoes. The adults eat nectar (or nothing at all) and the larvae eat the roots of various plants.

      I suspect the myth that they eat mosquitoes may arise because crane flies are so much bigger, but otherwise visually very similar. ("What eats bears? bigger bears!")

      Mosquitoes are loathesome and should be wiped from the universe, but crane flies are kinda neat.

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    9. Re:Belize by treeves · · Score: 1

      I knew the larvae would eat grass roots. I've sprayed for them on my lawn. Thanks for the info about NOT eating mosquitoes. I feel better now, though perhaps I should feel worse. . .

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    10. Re:Belize by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Glad to help, I think ... :)

      Tho on a scale of torture, I think having to doctor one's lawn is far less horrible than having the itchies from one end to the other... so with that choice in mind, I'd rather a plague of crane flies than of mosquitoes!

      BTW, if you can still get diazinon (corncob base, NOT newsprint base) two treatments in the spring will kill just about everything that you don't want living in your lawn, and continue working all summer. And if you pour some undiluted liquid diazinon around the roots of trees, they'll uptake enough to kill bugs that munch on their leaves. This was the only thing I ever found that gets rid of elm-leaf bugs.

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    11. Re:Belize by norpan · · Score: 1

      Crane flies do not eat mosquitos, as larvae they feed on vegetation and as adults they feed on nectar or not at all.

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  27. KKK by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 1

    So, does the mosquito wearing the white robes bite the Caucasian because only true Aryan blood will do, or the Afro-American because, for so many years they have lived off their blood and sweat?

    Thanks for the smile, rovingeyes.

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  28. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Lumpy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    so try a old tech solution. get a block of dry ice, throw it in a cooler and put the cooler in the back corner of your yard.

    Voila 90% of the mosquitos go over there to die as a giant source of Co2 means lots of good things to eat to the little buggers.

    My grandfather was doing this a decade ago.

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  29. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Ironsides · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I've read all that and do believe myself that DDT is the best anti-mosquito chemical out there. There was an interesting story on the BBC this morning related to DDT and it's affect on humans. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/5145450.stm

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  30. Hopefully by TemplesA · · Score: 0

    Hopefully these Mosquitoes will turn on other Mosquitoes and drive them off, or kill them completely- why? Because the regular ones aren't bad enough, and the way the article describes these things sucking sounds like my SUV with the pedal to the floor, so bring 'em on, Raid 2.0 is ready.

  31. What about the humans? by r00t · · Score: 4, Funny

    That's got to be doing something to the humans as well. Might we be breeding people who need air pollution to live? If so, then cleaning up the environment could be like genocide!

    1. Re:What about the humans? by MustardMan · · Score: 3, Funny

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  32. winnipeg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhm .. we've had these in Winnipeg for decades ... this is hardly news.

  33. Re:Three Magic Letters! by dada21 · · Score: 1

    Thanks for the article -- I've seen similar ones, but that encompasses quite a bit of the facts that need to be addressed.

    I believe that nearly _ALL_ chemicals can cause harm to fetuses. I don't think there is any "safe" product out there that can't harm or kill someone if used incorrectly. That being said, I also think that many items that cause harm can ALSO increase health based on its usage. Even cigarette smoking has a good amount of positives in clinical studies, especially in people with memory loss and age-related mental issues. This is why I am against the national governments telling people what to do and what not to do. DDT should be a community-selected issue. If you're dealing with massive mosquito-borne diseases, there is a CBA that should be performed to see if the benefits outweigh the costs.

    The issue is a lot more complicated than either of us can debate in this forum, but I believe the issues must be brought back up, especially when it comes to governments that would rather see millions die over a few generations than a few thousand be slightly mentally hampered while in the womb. Long term studies on these mental problems also should be looked into by privately funded research companies and organizations -- I'd happily give a few hundred dollars for research. Yet we can't use DDT in much of the world, and I believe that is a bigger problem that was created by fiat and mandate than by research and reality.

  34. Re:Size? (oops) by z0idberg · · Score: 1

    x is about between one 405millionths and one 324millionths of a VW beetle.

    (where an average mozzie is 2.0 to 2.5 milligrams and a VW beetle is approx 810 Kgs - source wikipedia (except for the calculations which are mine so probably wrong)).

  35. Extra bit by Lave · · Score: 2, Informative
    A crucial point I forgot to mention in the above is that this allows them to better compete with the rest of their species - the larger, faster, "better" mossies will be able to bread more often than the "ordinary" mossies - and the increased amount of food supports them in that aim.

    The better vision allows you to see more chicks to impregnate.

    Just because you can't immediately see why evolution would lead to something - doesn't mean that it won't happen - it just means your not looking at the situation right.

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  36. Re:Three Magic Letters! by berbo · · Score: 1

    we don't need no steenking eagles!

  37. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Alexandra+Erenhart · · Score: 1

    No, I'm pretty sure they were "intelligent designed"....

  38. Great,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And to think: all this time I've been getting bitten by inferior insects. Well, no more!

    WHO THE HELL GREEN LIGHTS THESE PROJECTS?

    1. Re:Great,,, by Freiheit · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you'd read the article, they aren'te creating mosquito's, the mosquito's are evolving into different form that has better traits for surviving. It's not a research project or a planned thing. It's naturally happening.

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    2. Re:Great,,, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No no no. The designer is intelligently designing them to deal better with pollution. Evolution's just a theory you know.

  39. Not Rocket Science by oahazmatt · · Score: 1
    The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe. Beating their wing 500 times a second provides them with extra speed, and the larger bodies (by 0.3ug) presumably allow larger bloodsucking capacity.
    Unfortunately the new Super Mosquito is "snub-nosed" and will not make a puncture wound. Rather, the Super Mosquito will land on a human and relentlessly force its entire head into the target over a period of 6-7 hours.
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  40. Re:Size? (oops) by KingEomer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So that means that the mosquitoes are about 0.1% bigger than average... Wow. North Americans must be pretty dangerous, then, if 0.1% larger in weight makes one "Super"

  41. It's *preference* only by oni · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From TFA: It's very exciting," Logan told New Scientist, "because these are totally natural chemicals with an effectiveness that compares favourably to harsher chemicals such as DEET

    I seriously doubt that this will work as well as a repellant. All he did was figure out what flavor of human mosquitos like. Sure, if there are lots of humans around, they will go after the one they like, but in a pinch, they are still comming after you. It's like saying, we did research and found that oni prefers chocolate ice cream, so we are only selling vanilla - that wll keep him away.

    No, actually it wont. If you're the only ice cream shop in town, I'll make do with vanilla. Similarly, if you're out walking alone in the woods, the mosquitoes are going to bite you even if you don't taste just the way they like.

    This discovery is still good for when you are in a group of people - unless everyone in the group makes use of it, then you're back where you started.

    1. Re:It's *preference* only by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      The best solution if you're in a group of people is just to give one of them a banana before going out and also make sure that person gets the fake mosquito repellant. The strategy also works with bears, except in that case you bring someone either old or fat who can't run very fast.

    2. Re:It's *preference* only by plague3106 · · Score: 1

      Sure, if there are lots of humans around, they will go after the one they like, but in a pinch, they are still comming after you.

      And you have proof of this?

      No, actually it wont. If you're the only ice cream shop in town, I'll make do with vanilla. Similarly, if you're out walking alone in the woods, the mosquitoes are going to bite you even if you don't taste just the way they like.

      More likely they'll go to another kind of animal which doesn't bother them. They are repelled for a reason; they probably believe there is some danger in going after the 'bad smelling' ones. Seems to work well for snunks.

    3. Re:It's *preference* only by Kreigaffe · · Score: 1

      Actually... no.

      I'm one of the 'fortunate few'. So's my dad.
      Actually, in several ways.

      I'm immune to poison ivy.
      I can't remember the last time I got bit by a mosquito. In the past 4-5 years, I've had less than a half-dozen 'bug bites' in total.. most of those being spiders I assume. It's a different kind of bite.
      Though I go trouncing through the woods quite often, and rarely remember any kind of repellant, I've only once ever had a tick touch my skin -- and it was a very, very large one. And it was crawling, not biting. It had at least a full hour in which to find a tasty spot to bite, but never did.

      The downside? While I've not yet had the misfortune, my dad, for many years, had fairly corrosive sweat. As in, the inside of his wrist watch's band would become severely pitted after a single year of wear. The outside? Fine. Just the inside was bad.

      And my mother, and her father, both couldn't wear wrist watches. The batteries -always- died after a week to a month. Sounds weird, but I've seen it happen at least a dozen times. Buy watch, watch dies, replace battery, battery dies, return+exchange watch, battery dies, replace battery, battery dies.
      I use a pocket watch :p

      Sadly, my sister inhereted none of that cool stuff.

      Ladies, walk right this way and you will recieve some quite favorable genes. Possibly several times.

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    4. Re:It's *preference* only by mgblst · · Score: 1

      It is the same kind of mentality that I use to get my girlfriend to go swimming with me. As long as we aren't the furthest ones out, then we will be fine - they are the ones the shark will go after. (never mention that there is more than one shark, she would freak at that thought)

  42. Yearly 15 minutes of fame. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I say Athens runs with this and jumps on the declining popularity of the event in Spain and creates the annual "Running With the Mosquitos" celebration, in honor of the Greek god Hera. Winner gets a lifetime supply of V8.

  43. Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? by middlemen · · Score: 2, Informative

    Hi The spelling of mosquito in English is "mosquito" and not "mosquitoe".

    1. Re:Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? by BWJones · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Reference please? Because my publication reference book sitting here tells me that the UK spelling of "mosquitoe" is acceptable.

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    2. Re:Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Wooster_UK · · Score: 1
      I'll fill in for the GP.

      Chambers. Also 23 years of living in the UK, speaking British English. I'm almost native, now. ; )

      Further, the OED Online, which is subscription-only I'm afraid, has no listed occurrences of mosquitoe. It lists dozens of creative spellings from the seventeenth century and earlier (like musketa, moscheto, musqueeto, muscato &c.) but no mosquitoe. How old's that printed reference you're using?

    3. Re:Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What publication reference are you reading, and what edition? Or have you been caught in a lie again, BWJones, you ostentatious shitgobbler?

    4. Re:Mod parent down Re:"Mosquitoe"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thy spelinge of mosquitoe maye haff beene appropriate once upon a tyme, butt to see such misgivings in yon daye and age is to drive a kannife through mine eyes!

  44. Michigan State Bird by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's not the size, is the quantity. We had big, even HUGE mosquitoes in Michigan, but it was the tenacious little bitsy ones that appeared in great quantities and stung the most. Smaller mosquitoes also are able to get through smaller holes and gaps and were typically the ones found indoors.

    It's been said "Intimidation is being in a dark room with a mosquito." As tired as you may be, lying in bed, there's something about that faint whine that can make the most tired very alert.

    "Air pollution and cramped housing conditions in Athens, Greece, are creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster, and can smell humans from farther away. The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe. Beating their wing 500 times a second provides them with extra speed, and the larger bodies (by 0.3ug) presumably allow larger bloodsucking capacity.

    I like Dave Barry's line about armor piercing stealth mosquitoes and think this is what the Greeks are up to. Screw the North Koreans, it's the greeks we need to keep an eye on.

    One last thing: Ponds are filled with mosquitoes. Larvae perhaps, but not the adults. Mosquitoes prefer long grass or shade, which is why it's often a good idea to just write off the golfball hit into the brush or edge or woods. Worst around ponds are deer flies, which I used to refer to as Flying Bastards

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    1. Re:Michigan State Bird by Alexandra+Erenhart · · Score: 1

      It's been said "Intimidation is being in a dark room with a mosquito." As tired as you may be, lying in bed, there's something about that faint whine that can make the most tired very alert

      That's what happens to me during summer nights :( I'm happily asleep, then I wake up by the buzzing of one or sometimes two little suckers flying around me. I spend precious sleeping time trying to catch the f*ckers because I just cannot sleep knowing they're around me. I hate them with all my heart.

    2. Re:Michigan State Bird by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      After many ruined nights over the last few summers, I finally now close my bedroom door by habit when I leave the room. And I keep the hall door closest to the front door closed all the time.

      I still get them in the living area but no more sleepless nights- waking up turning on the light- looking for the bugger- killing it.

      And the way they specifically buzz your ear is horrible. Why not just settle on the nice leg, take a nip and then leave.

      When I really have to sleep for sure, I'll put a sheet over my ear.

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    3. Re:Michigan State Bird by NereusRen · · Score: 1

      "Worst around ponds are deer flies, which I used to refer to as Flying Bastards."

      I'll have to agree here. I used to think mosquitos were the worst thing up here in the Minnesota/Wisconsin are, but that changed when I was swimming at my cabin and a spot on my back suddenly hurt like hell. Not only do the bites sting for a while, but the deer flies seem to bite for no particular reason, and they are incredibly persistent! Dive underwater for a while... don't worry, it'll wait for you to surface. What the hell is their problem anyway? Oh, and being the size of a house fly, it's considerably faster and more difficult to swat than a mosquito.

      Good name, I think I'll use it from now on.

    4. Re:Michigan State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hear, hear. Few things rank as as irritating as mosquitos anywhere, especially indoors. For me at night in summertime it is either, windows closed lights on, or windows open and lights off. Really irritating given the heatwave that we're going through in the Netherlands.

    5. Re:Michigan State Bird by DeadChobi · · Score: 1

      I caught one the other night, buzzing around my face. I spent 15 minutes being very still and waiting for it to come over to me, then I reached out with my hand and caught the little fucker. That'll teach them to fly through the screen on my window.

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    6. Re:Michigan State Bird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Worst around ponds are deer flies, which I used to refer to as Flying Bastards

      Dad? I didn't know you read /.

    7. Re:Michigan State Bird by xenn · · Score: 1
      "...or windows open and lights off."

      that's how I prefer to sleep in summer.

  45. I for one... by David+Munch · · Score: 2, Funny

    Welcome our new greek killing, buzzing overlords!

  46. Let's start a discussion on patents by beaverfever · · Score: 1

    From the New Scientist article:

    The most potent repellent chemical were then isolated by strapping miniature electrodes to the antennae of female mosquitoes and checking their responses to specific compounds. Logan will not divulge the names of the chemicals until they are patented. ...
    "It's very exciting," Logan told New Scientist, "because these are totally natural chemicals"

    So, what is the status of the situation which allows companies to patent naturally occurring phenomena, such as DNA and now a scent which comes from a chemical naturally produced by the human body?

    1. Re:Let's start a discussion on patents by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1
      So, what is the status of the situation which allows companies to patent naturally occurring phenomena, such as DNA and now a scent which comes from a chemical naturally produced by the human body?
      It's not a patent on the naturally-occurring compound, per se. Rather, patents on methods of producing said compound, or patents for using said compound for a specific use.

      After all, tons of pharmaceuticals occur naturally in nature (or at least their parent class of compounds do). And we wouldn't want unscrupulous companies to be able to treat and/or cure diseases indiscriminately, would we?
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    2. Re:Let's start a discussion on patents by GReaToaK_2000 · · Score: 1

      See, I agree that companies deserve the right to patent the "method of (re)production" of a naturally occurring chemical. In some cases it takes a lot of money and time to figure out how to produce these chemicals on a mass scale.

      But, the article only stated he won't divulge the chemicals until they are patented. So, it would seem they are trying to patent the chemicals much like other companies patenting DNA which is completely ludicrous.

      Additionally, I don't think "patenting specific use cases for chemicals" is appropriate either. Patent law has gotten WAY out of hand.

      Just a rant (sorry) but glad to see that others A) read the article and B) noticed what I thought to be the most worrisome issue.

  47. Or, we could just use DDT and there's no problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Bring back DDT and mosquitos go away. So do upwards of 2 million malaria deaths per year, a totally preventable third-world genocide caused entirely by that evil idiot Rachel Carson and perpetuated by environmentalist morons.

  48. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Billosaur · · Score: 3, Informative
    so try a old tech solution. get a block of dry ice, throw it in a cooler and put the cooler in the back corner of your yard.

    Or since this is Slashdot, maybe a more high-tech colution.

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  49. What Mosquitoes like and hate? by RyoShin · · Score: 4, Funny
    And in a similar vein (har har) New Scientist had a piece about what mosquitoes like or hate about people.

    Hell, I can tell you that without reading the article.

    Mosquitoes like:
    -that humans have blood

    Mosquitoes hate:
    -that humans squash them

    There you go.
  50. DEET doesn't repel mosquitos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It knocks out their sense of smell so they can't find you. I work outside a lot and really notice if I forget to put on the DEET. It does work.

    1. Re:DEET doesn't repel mosquitos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The specific mechanism is that the deet aromatic molecules are just the right size to fit into (aka clog) their receptors.

  51. The year 20XX by Salzorin · · Score: 0

    Athens mosquito technology has surpassed us!? This is disgraceful. We need to step up our pollution and cramped housing! [i]The super insects have color vision and detect humans from 25-30 meters, which is about 50% farther than the ordinary mosquitoe[/i] We need to give them infravision! and the ability to detect humans across a span of 30 miles! Forget a size of .3ug ... we need to make them 10, no 20 lbs. And we must give them technology. Radar, sonar and laser beam eyes! Yes, yes, our minions will traverse this mortal coil and bring everyone under our mosquito superpower! And then we will feast my brethren.... feast.

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  52. But.... by ripcrd · · Score: 1

    Will this be as bad as ... Mansquito?

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  53. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The cognitive effects of the nicotine alkaloid are virtually identical to its sister alkaloid, caffeine.
    And advantage is that the caffeine intake mechanism is considerably less deterimental.

    I read one study recently that suggested coffee is the main source of antioxidants for most Americans.

  54. Apparently by FrankDrebin · · Score: 1
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  55. Natural Resistance to Venom? by shoolz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Mosquitos can bite me all day long and I never get a welt. My mother on the other hand, gets two bites and puffs up like the Michelin Man (TM).

    I am convinced that I do NOT have a natural resistance to mosquito venom, rather I believe that I have 'tuned' my body to be resistant. You see, growing up as a child I had the idea in my head (don't know how it got there), that if I just let the mosquitos bite me that eventually my body would adapt and become resistant. So while everybody else was slapping their arms and waving their hands about in the air, I would sit there and let them suck away... after I figured they had enough blood, I would pick them off by the leg and let them fly away.

    Is there any merit to this? I'm not sure, but I can tell you that I USED to swell up after begin bitten, but NOW I'm all but immune.

    1. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not an allergist, but my understanding is that the welt most people get is an small allergic reaction to mosquito saliva. In other words, their immune system is reacting to the bite. The absense of a reaction isn't a sign of immunity, in fact, it's just the opposite.

    2. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by plague3106 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      after I figured they had enough blood, I would pick them off by the leg and let them fly away.

      There's merit to what you say, as I became immune to poison ivy, likely from all the contact i had with it, but posion ivy won't give you a host of diseases if you come in contact with it, which a mosquito might.

    3. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      The welt is caused by an allergic reaction, which is a kind of immune response. So it's actually more correct to say you now have NO IMMUNITY WHATSOEVER to the anti-coagulent used by mosquitos. Whether this is good or bad I cannot say, but apparantly you have found a way to turn off your immune response to certain invaders.

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    4. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by MooseTick · · Score: 1

      People who are bitten excessively by mosquitos have shown that they have less and less reaction to the bites.

      There are some people who have been profesional Off testers (they spray some on their hand and stick it in a jar filled with mosquitos to see if they bite, how long it lasts, how many bite, etc. Many of then have been so exposed to so many bites that they have no reactions anymore. I suspect you need to continue that exposure to keep yourself immune though.

      As you age your body changes also. When I was little and got bit they were the size of silver dollars. Like most, I tried to minimize my exposure but still got bit occationally. Now they are the size of a nickel when I get bit.

    5. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      after I figured they had enough blood, I would pick them off by the leg and let them fly away.

      You sir, are a disgrace to the human species. Not killing a misquito is inexcusable.

    6. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by dragonbutt · · Score: 1

      "When I was little and got bit they were the size of silver dollars"

      Everything is bigger when you are a kid and smaller than you remember as you grow-up....

      Back when I was little, 65k of ram was as big as a wharehouse.

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    7. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by michael_cain · · Score: 1

      When I was a lad, I lived in Iowa and was allergic to corn pollen (NOT a good combination). During part of the year, it seemed like I lived on antihistamines. One of the useful side effects was that when bitten by mosquitos, I got a small bump that didn't get red and was gone in 20 minutes or less. When not taking the antihistamines, I got the big red welts like all the other kids.

    8. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by FellowConspirator · · Score: 2, Informative

      Mosquitos do not have venom. When a mosquito bites, you are exposed to proteins in the saliva of the insect -- some of which have a mild anti-coagulant effect. The itching and raising of a small bump is the result of an immune response to the foreign protein. As such, you'd expect that on the first exposure (your very first bite), there'd be minimal response, then subsequent bites would produce the itchy bumps most people associate with a bite. As with allergy shots, frequent exposure to the same proteins will lessen or eliminate the effect over time -- though how long the state persists will vary from person to person.

      People that are immuno-suppressed whether by drug or disease would also be expected to have reduced response to mosquito bites.

      Further, if your body has acclimated to the proteins in the mosquito's bite, it is quite possible that you'll find that when you travel you might respond to the bites of other species of mosquito that might have different/variant compositions to their saliva.

    9. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by Thaelon · · Score: 1

      It's all in the diphenhydramine HCl. It's the main active ingredient in both benedryl and Tylenol Simply Sleep.

      I get enormous welts from mosquito bites (the whole back of my hand swelled up from a single bite one time), and either Benedryl or any OTC sleep aid will work. Except the benedryl usually has some non-drowsy additives.

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    10. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Mosquitos do not have venom.

      Yet.

    11. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by darkmeridian · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Mosquitos inject their saliva into you when they first bite. The spit contains an anticoagulant that keeps the blood flowing into their greedy little mouths. When the mosquito is killed before it can suck a lot of blood out, the saliva gets left behind and initiates an inflammatory response. However, if you let the mosquito complete the feeding, it will suck a lot of the saliva out. Mosquitos don't tap into veins and arteries (hopefully, the super ones don't) so that the bloodflow is not strong enough to just wash the saliva out before the bug has a chance to suck it back out.

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    12. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by pyat · · Score: 1

      Something similar.

      One summer I lived in Mechelen in Belgium. Lots and lots of mosquitos, and my room had a brown patterned wallpaper that was impossible to see them against. I was driven mad by the mosquitos, especially when I'd get a bite on my eyes, face, feet or hands, because I tend to get painful welts from bites. My reaction was to sleep without a shirt on, and lie on my front. Then the mosquitos would feast happily on my back and I didn't have a problem with bites elsewhere. Looked pretty freaky when I went swimming though. My friends were just staring at me, and asking "what happened". When I realised what they were looking at and explained my "deal" with the mosquitos they looked at me even stranger.

    13. Re:Natural Resistance to Venom? by aethera · · Score: 1

      I can second this. My wife and I can sit out on the porch for a few hours. I'll emerge with a bite, maybe two while my wife will be covered.
          When I was in my teens I took a job as a camp counselor / trail guide in the Adirondacks Mountains. (paradise for biting insects black flies start up in April, the mosquitos join then in June, in July there's the deerflies (though the black flies are slacking off now), and in August some weird thing that looks like a housefly but with two stripes on its face. Those guys are fast, leave not a raised bump but an 1/8th inch scab, even through thick hiking socks or thin denim).

            Anyways, part of the contract with this job was that they supplied you with a free mosquito net to sleep under. Well, my first year at this job someone forgot to order them for the staff. It took almost two weeks for them to arrive, and we were all sleeping in canvas tent...no zippers, no screens. We were meat every night, just covered in hundreds of bites. The nets did finally arrive, but since then, unless I sit just perfectly still, the mosquitos largely leave me alone.

            In future years at this job I continued to be mosquite resistant, but other members of the staff noticed something similar. The first week or two, while we were setting the place up, clearing trails and all that, before campers arrived, most staff would keep themselves slathered in DEET. Two weeks in and the kids would arrive. The mosquitos would swarm the kids and leave the rest of us alone. We didn't know if it was because we were drinking the local water, sweaty and dirty or because the kids were sweaty, overweight and stuffing themselves full of candy and soda from the camp trading post. Most of us swore off any refined sugar or corn syrup as mosquite attracting madness, and instead chewed on wood sorrel and balsam needles.

  56. Attack Of The Moisquitoes by tashanna · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I, for one, welcome our new blood-sucking, human seeking overlords.

    <ducking and covering>

  57. Ut oh! by jrmiller84 · · Score: 1

    Could this mean a Mr. Mosquito 2? Oh god I hope not... Being from Florida I detest mosquitos due to many of the rivers, creeks, and swamps. You can keep them Greece, we don't want em.

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    1. Re:Ut oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that's been out in japan for awhile now. the first game bombed so hard here it'll probably never get brought over

  58. mosquito hawks vs. giant mosquitos by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 1

    We have these in ohio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crane_fly and they look just like enormous mosquitos, so much so that you can't help freaking out if one gets near you!

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    1. Re:mosquito hawks vs. giant mosquitos by bcmm · · Score: 1

      Oh god. I really really hate those. I suppose it may be some instinctive reaction to mosquitoes, the same way some people dislike spiders or snakes. I'm not in any way phobic of actual mosquitoes, which I can kill quite calmly, but somehow crane flies (which are harmless, but at least an order of magnitude bigger) terrify me. It really makes no sense. I don't even mind spiders.

      Also, they all seem to lose at least one leg over their lifetime, which is rather disturbing.

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    2. Re:mosquito hawks vs. giant mosquitos by Mancat · · Score: 1

      Here in Washington state we have a ton of craneflies, probably more than mosquitos. They love to divebomb people's heads, I don't know why. I've been camping a few times where we've been under attack by craneflies rather than mosquitos. And the way that their legs just flail about while they're flying? Yeah, they freak the shit out of me.

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  59. Wipe them out. All of them. by Dr.+Eggman · · Score: 1

    Make it war! Give the super mosquitoes no quarter; leave no water standing (still!) See a mosquitoe swarm? Spray it down; it's your civic duty! Never leave home without that bug spray. Back the attack by crushing or shredding cups or other shaped garbage that may hold water if it rains. Let no trash can go without cover (so water can't collect.) Coat the city in repelent by plane (not ddt!) Just call it "Gas Mask Day" and give people the day off. If you have large bodies of water (as in sewers, ponds, ect.) make sure you aggrevate it constantly; a vibration device powerful to make small wave will do well. Do your part and help wipe out the super mosquito menace before it spreads. When people organize, no animal can escape extinction!

    I think the evolution theory is correct, but hell if anythings gonna change on my watch!

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    1. Re:Wipe them out. All of them. by Reziac · · Score: 1

      This is no longer ecologically-correct, but one quart of motor oil will coat one acre of water to a thickness of one molecule, which is all that's required to suffocate mosquito larvae. This used to be the common control method with standing water that could not be drained, particularly since that isn't enough oil to harm anything else (the single-molecule layer doesn't affect fish, birds, or other aquatic insects).

      BTW, some species of mosquitoes do NOT require standing water to reproduce; it's been discovered that the damp folds in tree bark (particularly scrub oaks that collect morning dew in otherwise-arid areas) is sufficient.

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  60. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Using DDT against mosquitos is like using a nuke against locusts. I mean, sure, it works, but the unwanted side effects might just as well be more of a problem than the problem you tried to get rid off.

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  61. Can't help myself by crono_deus · · Score: 2, Funny
    Super mosquitos... that's gotta suck.

    I can imagine they'd be a pain in the ass. Or thigh. Or hand. Or practically anywhere, for that matter.

    *rimshot*

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    1. Re:Can't help myself by SwashbucklingCowboy · · Score: 1
      He's here everynight this week folks.

      Remember to try the veal...

    2. Re:Can't help myself by flyingfsck · · Score: 0

      Hmm, I divorced my wife after she came home with bites on her, well, uhmm, you get the picture...

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  62. Re:Or, we could just use DDT and there's no proble by bytesex · · Score: 1

    I do believe, my good sir or madam, that your reflex-like reaction has been thoroughly debunked already. Maybe it's time to put this in the slashdot FAQ.

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  63. Typical Science Thinking. by Bnderan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Athenian Scientists get so focused on creating "Super Mosquitoes", that they never stop and ask themselves "should we do this". We can only hope Spartan Scientists don't escalate the situation by bio-engineering "MegaFrogs".

  64. Mosquito repellant by fossa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've heard that garlic is a natural mosquito repellant (seems to repel many bugs such as ants and cockroaches). I've read that spraying one's self with a garlic tea works, or even eating a clove of garlic (not sure how long before mosquito exposure). Does this have any affect on super mosquitos of the northern midwest? And how bad does a garlic spray smell? Mosquito repellants

    1. Re:Mosquito repellant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Very interested to read a response to this re: garlic as a mosquito repellant. If I had mod points...

    2. Re:Mosquito repellant by Da_Weasel · · Score: 1

      I heard eating cloves of garlic, and spraying yourself with garlic tea is an effective way of repelling Homo sapiens too...

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    3. Re:Mosquito repellant by freakmn · · Score: 1

      So, assuming you're talking about the females in both cases, then perhaps it just repels bloodsuckers? Although, being from MN, I think the humans are slightly less vicious than the mosquitoes.

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    4. Re:Mosquito repellant by Saige · · Score: 1

      I've long been of the opinion that any person that won't be around me after I've eaten something with garlic in it is a person I don't want to have around. Garlic is just that important.

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  65. Nice selection of right wing BS sites by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got any actual, non-biased sources for any of that information?

    1. Re:Nice selection of right wing BS sites by dada21 · · Score: 1

      Both sites I linked to are not Right Wing, they're actually liberal sites -- classical liberal.

      The second article has a link to the normally left wing NY Times: What the World needs now is DDT. Good article.

      Here's another link refuting Carson's garbage, not from a right wing site, either.

  66. Re:I think I smell a Sci-Fi channel movie of the w by MustardMan · · Score: 1

    Get these motherfucking mosquitos off this motherfucking plane!

  67. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should be dragged into the street and shot in the face because you're so fucking stupid.

    1. It's dragged, not drug.
    2. The scientists did not create anything. They're just reporting findings.

    Dumbass.

  68. Re:Three Magic Letters! by jesterpilot · · Score: 2, Informative

    Indeed, DDT has proven to be very effective for breeding strong, highly resistant mosquitoes.

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  69. Mozzies hate exploding... by celotil · · Score: 2, Funny

    Next time one jabs you, don't squish it, tense up that part of the body rapidly and repetitively. If the mozzie is on a vein that happens to suddenly get an influx of blood flowing through... pop!

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  70. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly you didn't read the links or if you did you didn't understand them. The DDT myth was perpetuated by opinions in a popular book that weren't based on ANY evidence at all. And here we are with 3 million deaths per year, a large portion of which would have been prevented.

  71. Travel by daniel.waterfield · · Score: 1

    Right, i know where not to go on holiday this year, Roma here i come.

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  72. Re:Someone should shoot them... by amper · · Score: 1

    Heh. Just make sure that the cooler is left open, so that it doesn't explode. I say this, because my own cooler has a metal latch that is quite strong (Coleman stainless teel model). Now, it may still allow enough CO2 to escape to prevent a big POP!, but I have no desire to experiment with my expensive cooler...

  73. Waste of Time by just_forget_it · · Score: 0, Troll

    What possible purpose could this serve? Let's not spend our time on cancer/AIDS research, lets make EVEN MORE BOTHERSOME misquitoes. These scientists should be shot. The only thing misquitoes ever did for mankind was provide a plot for Jurassic Park.

    1. Re:Waste of Time by IdntUnknwn · · Score: 1

      Where did you get the idea that scientists are trying to create a superbreed of mosquitos? Not even the blurb stated such an idea. Did you not get past the headline or something?

    2. Re:Waste of Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, this is a new concept: RTF Slashdot Posting. In the two seconds you took to hit "Reply" you could have read the actual posting which indicates that scientists are STUDYING a natural occurence.

    3. Re:Waste of Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, way to totally miss the point. RTF first line of the summary. The conditions in Athens are breeding these mosquitoes, not a group of evil scientists. It's excusable to not RTFA, as this is Slashdot after all. But now you're reading only the title? You should at least skim the summary so you can point out spelling errors and make fun of editors.

  74. Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by brufar · · Score: 5, Informative
    Looks like Athens should be working on increasing their bat population. a single little brown bat such as we have here in the US can catch about 1200 small insects (such as mosquito's) in a single hour. I have built several bat houses to place around my yard to try and increase their population in my local vicinity. and decrease the biting insect population . It will make the back yard a much more enjoyable place and I won't have to spend money on chemicals, propane or electricity to make it happen.

    I am convinced that although the electric bug zappers take out a lot of insects, and can be enjoyable to watch, they also seem to attract all the bugs from your neighbors yards into yours..

    For more info on Bat conservation and plans to build your own bat house check out Bat Conservation International

    From the BatCon FAQ
    Most bats are valuable allies, well worth protecting. Worldwide, they are primary predators of vast numbers of insect pests that cost farmers and foresters billions of dollars annually and spread human disease. In the United States, little brown bats often eat mosquitos and can catch up to 1,200 tiny insects in an hour. An average-sized colony of big brown bats can eat enough cucumber beetles to protect farmers from tens of millions of the beetle's rootworm larva each summer. Large colonies of Mexican free-tailed bats eat hundreds of tons of moth pests weekly. Bats play key roles in keeping a wide variety of insect populations in balance. Yet, they rank as North America's most rapidly declining and endangered land mammals. The largest known cause of decline is exaggerated human fear and persecution.
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  75. alright by AlgorithMan · · Score: 1

    alright, I'm convinced... where can I order one?

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  76. Nope, it's a thriller with Samuel Jackson... by svnt · · Score: 1

    "Mosquitos in a Tent"

  77. Gun companies win by Revolver4ever · · Score: 1

    Double barreled shotgun - the new fly/mosquito swatter.

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  78. A Møsquitøe once bit my sister by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No realli! She was Karving her initials on the møsquitøe
    with the sharpened end of an interspace tøøthbrush given
    her by Svenge - her brother-in-law - an Oslo dentist and
    star of many Norwegian møvies: "The Høt Hands of an Oslo
    Dentist", "Fillings of Passion", "The Huge Mølars of Horst
    Nordfink".

    Mynd you, møsquitøe bites Kan be pretty nasti...

  79. And the mods proves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that /. is inhabited by more republicans than democrats or libertarians.

  80. Mosquitos on a Plane! by blofeld42 · · Score: 1

    My next Hollywood script pitch.

  81. Re:Someone should shoot them... by werewolf1031 · · Score: 1
    No, I'm pretty sure they were "intelligent[ly] designed"....
    By who, a bug repellent company?? Oh...
  82. Evolution on equal terms by sgt+scrub · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is evolution on equal terms. Unfortunately, the mosquito has used the traits it has developed. We have developed the ability to change their genome. For instance, cross the mosquito with the firefly. Release a few breaders into the world and we could see them at 30 meters. Got a blinking bug on your ass? BAM! Dead. We must be holding back due to some stupid british style fair play type logic.

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    1. Re:Evolution on equal terms by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      Much better to simply add an allergen reaction to something we humans like to have around... like jasmine pollen or some plant that flowers at the time that the mosquito's are starting to come out... then just grow jasmine plants along all public avenues and near any areas that would be prone to mosquito breeding...voila... problem solved.

      this type of genetic tinkering should be called 'unobtrusive genescripting" and should be the future of accessible and usable genetics engineering, IMHO

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  83. Being able to detect humans at longer... by exp(pi*sqrt(163)) · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...range is a weird adaptation to living in an overpopulated city where your next meal is at close range, don't you think?

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    1. Re:Being able to detect humans at longer... by Chysn · · Score: 1

      > ...range is a weird adaptation to living in an overpopulated city
      > where your next meal is at close range, don't you think?

      That's a good point. I'd guess this happened because greater human populations forced mosquito breeding grounds further to the outskirts of the city, where standing water and grass is perhaps more common.

      So, the mosquitoes had to learn to commute.

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  84. DDT ban myth bingo by sean.peters · · Score: 1

    For your reading pleasure:

    http://timlambert.org/2005/12/ddt-ban-myth-bingo/

    Please, post some more. I'm getting close to a bingo!

  85. Air pollution?! by eggspurt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What has air pollution to do with breeding mosquitoes? And the same goes for "cramped housing conditions". Of course mosquitoes evolve to suck peoples' blood more efficiently. There are only three factors in the mosquito equation: blood donors (where they feed) and water (where they reproduce). If you don't have puddles lying around, and if there are fish that feed on the mosquito larva, you can control them. If you have wire meshes on the windows (as is customary in North America, but not in Europe), you reduce the number of bites. Because mosquitos can sense body heat, it helps to wear white clothes (that don't radiate at the body temperature) - a trick a Puertorican friend told me. You should also wash yourself, because mosquitoes sense lactic acid. You shouldn't breathe, because mosquitoes sense carbon dioxide that you exhale. In my travels I've noticed the stealth Indian mosquitos (carry malaria) are noiseless. The Norwegian mosquitoes managed to bit me through two layers of clothing. The Rocky Mountains mosquitoes are puny but plentiful. The European mosquitoes are loud but smart: they attack in the dark.

    1. Re:Air pollution?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "You shouldn't breathe, because mosquitoes sense carbon dioxide that you exhale"

      Ah, now there's a practical solution to keeping mosquitoes from noticing me!

    2. Re:Air pollution?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What about mosquitoes in SOVIET Russia?

  86. Re:Someone should shoot them... by claes · · Score: 1

    What places are there to get dry ice? And while we are at it, where can I buy liquid nitrogen? Probably the places you recommend will not be available to me, but I am curious to know.

  87. RTFSP by tenco · · Score: 1
    Read The Fucking Slashdot Post

    In the case you could only read the headline because of a disability: Sorry.

  88. Dragonflies in these parts... by Civil_Disobedient · · Score: 4, Informative

    In Maine, we have our own brand of bio-terrorism against the Devil-creatures: dragonflies. The state used to provide homeowners with a batch in the late spring so that by summertime you'd have a glorious army of ravenous winged assasins. I read somewhere that dragonflies eat 20x their body weight in mosquitos a day (no ref., sorry).

    1. Re:Dragonflies in these parts... by dcapel · · Score: 1

      I call BS.

      20x your body weight every day would neccessitate that either:
      1. They are shitting constantily, and at 99% of the speed they eating, or
      2. They would grow expotentially in size by the following formula:
      Given W is the weight of a starting dragonfly,
      W(x) = W(1)(20)^x
      Given 350g as the normal dragonfly bodyweight, and summer being 181 days long, that produces:
      350(20)^181
      = 10727468786061222008508429190052164285331173855285 21523200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000
      00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000g

      or

      10727468786061222008508429190052164285331173855285 21523200000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000
      00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 yotta grams.

      or 1.072 x 10 ^ 93 yotta grams (roughly).

      That is one big dragonfly.

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    2. Re:Dragonflies in these parts... by dfjghsk · · Score: 3, Informative
      wasn't able to find information on dragonflys.. but 20x it's body weight is possible:

      http://www.discover.com/issues/mar-02/departments/ featreviews/
      A two-week-old sea horse can consume 3,600 baby shrimps in one dayup to 25 times its body weight.


      http://www.unr.edu/nevadanews/detail.aspx?id=1205
      When a mosquito sucks blood from a human, it will take in twice its body weight in blood. To decrease this added weight, the mosquito urinates on its victim to release fluids.


      According to this: http://www.ponddoc.com/WhatsUpDoc/WildLife/BuzzMos quitoes.htm dragonflys can eat up to 600 mosquitos a day.. so if you can find the weight of a dragonfly and a mosquito......
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  89. A simple, safe and effective alternative by Aqua_boy17 · · Score: 1

    I worked for a pharmacist once who was also a BSA troop leader and canoe enthusiast. He took frequent canoe trips to some of the most inhospitable areas of the Florida Everglades (with his sons, not his scouts) and swore by taking large doses of Thiamine aka Vitamin B1. One to two hundred mg per day should do the trick. The vitamin that is not absorbed is excreted via the pores and acts as a pretty effective repellant as the mosquitos don't like the smell.

    This is a particularly good tip for fishermen traveling deep into the Everglades or Ten Thousand Islands area. If you have doused yourself in toxic DEET and then stick your hands in the livewell, you will soon find yourself with a bucket full of dead bait (my ex actually did this and ruined a trip for us). It's not fun when you've planned an expensive fishing trip and it's an hours long boat ride to the nearest bait shop. I've fished and camped in the 'Glades and other South Florida areas where we are plaqued with mosquitos and the B1 trick works pretty well. The key is to take a dose at least 24 hours before you are going to be outside, and then continue it each day you are out in the open.

    Then there's also my brother's old tip that I can't vouch for as I havent tried it: Extend your arm and cover it in cheap whiskey. Then take a handful of sand and rub it over your arm. The mosquitos land, get drunk, and pretty soon they're so busy trowing rocks at each other that they don't bother you anymore. :P. We also like to say that there is not one single mosquito in the Everglades. (They're all happily married with zillions of children.)

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    1. Re:A simple, safe and effective alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe mythbusters did a piece on this and proved it wrong.

  90. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shouldn't you try a solution before applying a colution?

    <ducks>

  91. Ball game called... by shotfeel · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This was many years ago, and not in Minnesota, but the worst mosquito problem I ever encountered was playing a high school baseball game, played near a wooded, marshy area, after dark, under the lights. The game was called off after the 3rd inning because of mosquitos -you couldn't throw a ball or swing a bat without hitting some. Standing still at the plate waiting for the pitch was torture. Fortunately, the pitcher didn't want to stand too still too long either. The umpire apologized to the coaches for not calling it earlier. He initially thought we could make it through 5 innings to make it an officially completed game, but soon realized he wouldn't last that long.

    Some people tried coungint their bites after we were safely away, but I don't think it was possible to get an accurate count.

  92. Bigger you say?!? by guru8376 · · Score: 1

    *** Goes out to buy even bigger bug zapper. ***

    "Look Ma its them there fireworks again."

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  93. "Logan will not divulge the names by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    of the chemicals until they are patented." Figures. So I guess all you African and South American mofos will just have to suffer a while longer. Let's hope somebody a little less greedy can find out what the checmicals are before the patent is approved. And besides, why are we going to let anybody patent a naturally occurring substance anyway? If they are patenting the method of seperation, well, that's a different story. But the chemical itself? No way!

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  94. You want all natural? by Lactoso · · Score: 1
    How about gluing 40 to 50 bats to yourself ala this?

    Sure, there'd be a guano-management issue, but you'd be able to seriously scare the neighborhood kids...

  95. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    And you'll make millions on the guano.

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  96. Re:Someone should shoot them... by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    What? The planet isn't warm enough for you already?

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  97. Re:Three Magic Letters! by FrostedChaos · · Score: 3, Informative

    That sounds like a great way to:

    1. Breed DDT-resistant mosquitos
    2. Contaminate the groundwater for generations, leading to
      3. Retarded children and children with other developmental disabilities
      4. Massive environmental damage, especially massive bird die-off

    It's amazing how many great ideas you can have when you stop believing those so-called "scientists" and "researchers"

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  98. Oxford agrees by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    Yup, even the Oxford dictionary agrees there: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/mosquito?view =uk

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  99. Ha! Why do you think this research is in Scotland? by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

    We have the midge!

    It puts the mosquito to shame. But not because it's bigger and bites harder... No the midges are too clever for that. They evolved to be smaller so seeing them and swatting them is more difficult and they can get into much smaller places. Think of them as a form of distributed mosquito. Half a million of them in a 2 square metre area.

    Hell they're so vicious we had to invent machines to kill them by the million and prevent them breeding: The Midgeater.

    Might work with mosquitos, you never know.

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  100. DDT is safe "when used as directed" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    the normally left wing NY Times
    If the New York Times looks "left" to you, you are pretty far off the deep end of the "right". The NYT is a typical "all the news that sells" populist American rag, only fatter and with artistic pretensions.

    I read your links, and they contain numerous factual inaccuracies based on neo-nazi anti-environmentalist memes.

    1) The USA banned DDT. No, we didn't, you can buy it today, and anyone who says you can't is flat-out lying. The USA banned DDT for agricultural use, which is quite reasonable since that use causes DDT-resistant pests to evolve very rapidly. DDT should be used for targeted pest control - and it still is, except in the many areas worldwide where agricultural use has destroyed its effectiveness.

    2) Rachel Carson's book "Silent Spring" is the root of all evil and contains lies. No, the book contained some science that has since been disproved, but it's main message - that pesticides should not be used with a "more is better" philosophy, and that use of chemicals should be regulated when a global commons can be damaged - is still relevant. To quote Carson's book directly, "Practical advice should be 'Spray as little as you possibly can' rather than 'Spray to the limit of your capacity.'"

    3) People are dying of malaria because the US banned DDT at Rachel Carsons' instigation. No, people are dying of malaria because DDT was used indiscriminately and now there are DDT-resistant malaria mosquitoes. There are other pesticides that have the same problem - because knuckleheads overused them agriculturally they are now useless for disease vector control. This is not a consequence of environmentalism - remember, environmentalists like organic agriculture!

    People who tell you this shit just want to recruit more mindless drones for their army of environmental destruction. Their end goal is the elimination of all commons, particularly air and water , which they believe should be owned and not shared .

    Read wikipedia's article on DDT if you want to know both sides of the story. But if you go in assuming "environmentalism is evil" or "corporations are evil" you have already given up your objectivity.
  101. Re:Someone should shoot them... by UglyTool · · Score: 1
    What places are there to get dry ice? And while we are at it, where can I buy liquid nitrogen? Probably the places you recommend will not be available to me, but I am curious to know.

    Your local Dairy Queen should have a supply on hand to sell to you. If they don't have any available, it's usually not difficult to have them order some in for you.

  102. Proof of God. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god.

    Actually, mosquitos are pretty good proof that there is a God, and therefore also a Satan, and the mosquitos are definitely minions of the latter.

  103. Re:Three Magic Letters! by FrostedChaos · · Score: 2, Informative

    I believe that nearly _ALL_ chemicals can cause harm to fetuses.

    Well, you're wrong about that.

    DDT should be a community-selected issue. If you're dealing with massive mosquito-borne diseases, there is a CBA that should be performed to see if the benefits outweigh the costs.

    DDT use cannot be a community-selected issue because the environment is common to all.
    Water runoff from one community flows into another community, seeps into aquifers that feed wells, drains into the ocean.

    This seems to be a typical blind spot for "libertarians," even the smarter ones. The. Environment. Can't. Be. Privatized.

    The issue is a lot more complicated than either of us can debate in this forum, but I believe the issues must be brought back up.

    The issues have been brought up. Well, all of them except for the issue of how this chemical ravages the natural world.
    I brought that up in another post, but I doubt anyone will address it, because there's so many other reasons why using DDT is a manifestly stupid idea.

    If you wanted to bring up the issue of environmentalism vs. utilitarianism, you could have easily picked a better issue. For example, is it moral for governments to drain swamps, and destroy the indiginous creatures living there, in order to reduce fatalities from malaria and other mosquito-borne diseases? Instead, you picked an issue where the harm to the public is obvious.

    Yet we can't use DDT in much of the world, and I believe that is a bigger problem that was created by fiat and mandate than by research and reality.

    Yes, I'm so sad that the government banned a chemical that was wiping out entire species of birds, causing retardation, and contaminating the groundwater. Private industry and selfishness would have solved the problem so much better. "More of this terrible gibberish," to borrow a phrase from Hunter S. Thompson. Man, I wonder what would have happened if he had been locked in a room with Ann Coulter for a few hours. I guess the world will never know.

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  104. punch that headline up a bit by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

    Make it read - Aliens Breeding "Super Mosquitoes" - and it's solid. Ready for the Weekly World News and other fine publications. Perhaps even the theregister.co.uk.

  105. Wake up Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The "article" is advertising masquerading as content for a company which has bred superskeeters and patented naturally occurring bio-compunds.
    They should be prosecuted, not featured in New Scientist.
      Jeesh!

  106. Re:Or, we could just use DDT and there's no proble by TubeSteak · · Score: 2, Informative

    The big problem with DDT was its use in agriculture.

    Farmers were using shiatloads of DDT on their fields.
    Literally kilograms of the stuff per acre.
    Rain + Field = DDT Runoff

    DDT, in the quantities used in/around the home, is not terribly harmful.

    Unfortunately, the hysteria over DDT gave it such a bad reputation that nobody will pay for it to be used at all, despite the fact that the ban is only on agricultural use.

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  107. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 1

    I have to reply on the Libertarian front.
    Two things.
    First, tragedy of the commons is not exactly unfamiliar to libertarians, and there are many possible solutions for protecting the interests of all impacted. Some that work considerably better than a corrupted government administration.
    Second.
    At the recent Libertarian National Convention, apart from the anarchists, many delegates thought of the question of what *would* be an acceptable method to fund government, assuming some basic level of government to provide services at various scopes for protection of fair play and related.
    Two came to forefront that I remember. Tariffs, where at least criminal penalties aren't involved, they just don't let your stuff enter a certain area they patrol. Aaaand, this one came up several times - atmospheric taxes for any use of the commons, scaling up with the impact.

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  108. Re:Someone should shoot them... by NIN1385 · · Score: 0
    Wow, glad to see you wasted your time on this. Sorry to tell you that this word is being used correctly, maybe it's just not the way you would say it. Try going to wikipedia and typing in drug... but here is what it says:

    "drug" is sometimes used as a non-standard past tense and past participle of the verb drag.

    Thanks for making me waste my time to make you sound like the dumbass.

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  109. Mosquito Joke by fm6 · · Score: 1

    I read this in a novel set in Louisiana, which I gather is famous for its mosquitos. A guy is lying in bed, and he hears two musquitos arguing. He shudders when he realizes that they're arguing about him: "I don't want to eat him here. Let's take him home." "No! If we try to move him, the big guys will take him away from us!"

    1. Re:Mosquito Joke by Reziac · · Score: 1

      What does a Minnesotan mosquito call a busload of kids?

      A: Sardines!!

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    2. Re:Mosquito Joke by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Is this a source of rivalry between Minnesota and Lousiana?

    3. Re:Mosquito Joke by Reziac · · Score: 1

      Sadly, it may well be... along with "Who's most humid?? Can YOU tell where your air ends and your lake begins??"

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  110. consistentcy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Someone should do us the courtesy of at least being consistently stupid, then.

  111. Re:Someone should shoot them... by NIN1385 · · Score: 0

    I did misread that article though, I thought it said they were engineering them. My bad. Seriously though, did it offend you or something?

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  112. "Smell blood?" by hudsong · · Score: 0

    From the article: "..unlike their colour-blind counterparts elsewhere in the country that only smell blood at 15-20 metres." Someone probably already mentioned this but mosquitoes don't detect animals by "smelling blood." They can sense high concentrations of CO2, which conviniently happens to be what humans exhale. The way propane traps work is by producing a large amount of CO2 thus attracting mosquitoes, and killing them when they get in range.

  113. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    I entirely agree with the idea that bats make a better bug-killer than zappers.

    However, relevant to the first post above (Minnesota State Bird) as a Minnesotan, I'm frightened to know that I house on my half-acre property a colony of 75+ bats who seem frightfully well-fed and happy. And it's STILL nearly intolerable to be outside around dusk or dawn, due to mosquitoes.

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  114. Re:Someone should shoot them... by Alexandra+Erenhart · · Score: 1

    I guess you didn't get the religious component of it. Or you have a level of irony way higher than normal.

    Thanks for the correction anyways, no matter how skilled I get in english, I always skip some details

  115. Bullshit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly, both you and the mods who awarded you points are joking. Sick fucks.

  116. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DDT was the safest insecticide to have been used, you could eat large quantities without any damage to your body. after the ban or DDT, insecticides killed people because they ate the poison by accident. with DDT malaria would have been wiped out like polio and smallpox. if DDT can save lives, how can you say its a bad chemical?

  117. MOD PARENT UP! by plasmacutter · · Score: 1

    The parent of this post was a very good refutation of this guy's points.. it should be given at least 1 if not 4.

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  118. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by freakmn · · Score: 1
    I am convinced that although the electric bug zappers take out a lot of insects, and can be enjoyable to watch, they also seem to attract all the bugs from your neighbors yards into yours..
    What I don't understand is why people who believe that don't give the zappers to their neighbors as gifts. That seems to me to be the logical thing to do. Personally, the mosquitoes haven't bothered me in years. Perhaps I've developed that immunity to them. I get a small bump, the size of a pea, which is gone by the next morning.
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  119. Mosquito 2.0 by martinflack · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mosquito 2.0 - Ah, screw it, I'm not upgrading until the "point one" release. You know the round numbers are always unstable.

  120. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by Hercules+Peanut · · Score: 1

    I have built several bat houses to place around my yard to try and increase their population in my local vicinity. and decrease the biting insect population .

    What are you thinking, man? Bats? BATS! You've got allergies to garlic, no reflection, lost soul and a greatly increased susceptibility to sun induced skin cancer. I'd rather have the mosquito bite.

    You've got to think these things through man.

  121. WHY?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would you do this? Isn't enough that the people of this world (namely Minnesota) suffer with these devils children already? Being from Minnesota myself I know that some of these guys have landing lights on their wings. Its scary to see some people get picked up and carried away by these things.
    So lets ask the important question here......why in God's name would you create a "super" mosquitoes?? Don't we try to kill them off already? If you ask me it almost sounds like another senerio for the downfall of man.

    1. Man creates super mosquitoes
    2. Man gets eaten by super mosquitoes
    3. Earth is then inherited by the super mosquitoes
    4. They then create a new civilization....better than humans

    I see a plot here.......

  122. physical changes by White+Yeti · · Score: 2, Informative

    Reaction probably varies from person to person, since some people in this study of poison ivy became more sensitive with repeated exposure.

    Personally, I'd squish the buggers anyway, rather than let them reproduce.

  123. You don't wanna slap one of these guys. by sizzzzlerz · · Score: 1

    It only makes 'em madder.

  124. Interesting Star Wars Related Mosquito Side Note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In one of the books, a dark Jedi used the force to repel the insects on Yavin 4 while traversing through the jungles...or was it Yavin 5?

  125. In other news... by mccrew · · Score: 1

    In other news, school boards across Kansas reiterated their demands that all science textbooks contain a sticker that says, "Evolution is just a theory."

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  126. Do this for all mosquitoes! by kimvette · · Score: 1

    We should engineer all mosquitoes to be super! That way, with all mosquitoes being super, none will be super.

    Next step: patent kevlar suits to wear whenever we go outdoors.

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  127. What kind of dumbass... by Beefslaya · · Score: 1

    would come to the conclusion that the mosquitoes on this planet aren't good enough?

    Trust me A-Holes...the insects around the world DON'T need your fucking help.

    Lessons about invading and genetically modified insect species:

    1. Fire Ants in the southern US kill people and cause Bilions worth of damage and medical costs a year.
    2. A form of asian lady bug is brought to the US to take out aphids and other crop infesting bugs; in turn creating a species of ladybug with a painful bite, that likes to swarm.
    3. No-See-Ums (aka. Sand Fleas, biting midges) brought from South America that invade US shorelines after dusk. (Ask any Marine who's been through boot camp at Parris Island, SC about these horrific "flying teeth".)
    4. Killer bees brought from Africa to create a more robust honey bee in South America swarms and kills thousands a year.
    5. Gypsy Moths in the northern states of the US dessimate 1000's of acres of trees and forest a year, killing forests and the tourism industry.
    6. Emerald Ash Borer brought from Asia recently, destroyed all the Ash trees and other hard wood species in Southern Michigan, Ohio, Indiana.

    Those scientists should be locked up.

  128. About time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They invented mosquito spray and chemicals that kill mosquitos. So someone had to go and invent a better mosquito.

  129. Re:Someone should shoot them... by hawkfish · · Score: 1

    While I am pretty freaked out myself by the impending collapse of various ice shelves, etc., I believe that dry ice is made by condensing CO2 out of the atmosphere and has no significant carbon footprint (aside from the electricity used to run the compressor maybe.)

    (And since it is the summer here in the US of A, I'd also point out that charcoal is made from trees and is also carbon-neutral ;-) )

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  130. Re:Ha! Why do you think this research is in Scotla by Incadenza · · Score: 3, Funny

    These so-called midges are a marketing ploy. Ever noticed they are only around when the pubs are open? As long as you stay inside and drink beer you're ok - and who's benefiting from that? The brewers! My guess is they grow them in these huge containers you see at breweries and distribute them with their delivery trucks, pouring them out all over city's villages and countryside through the exhaust pipe, masking as diesel fumes.

  131. BSA? by sconeu · · Score: 1

    The Business Software Alliance has an adventure base????

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    1. Re:BSA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he/she was refering to Boy Scouts of America?

    2. Re:BSA? by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Note to self: use tags in the future to make life easier for the humor-impaired.

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  132. Re:Or, we could just use DDT and there's no proble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Kilos per acre? Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. An ounce per acre.

  133. food quality versus habitation by kurtdg · · Score: 1
    It seemed that the people who produced the most sweat and breathed the hardest were the most attractive. These features seem to come hand in hand with being overweight but I never really bought the idea that overweight people's blood tasted better. If that were true, all the mosquitoes would have moved to Wisconsin.

    If animals would consistently move towards places where food was more tasteful, the human race would long ago have left the US, wouldn't it?
  134. And in Soviet Russia... by Fhqwhgadss · · Score: 1

    super-mosquitos breed Athenians.

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  135. World Wonder? by BHS_Turf · · Score: 1

    I haven't played Civilization IV yet, but what benifit will the Greeks get when The Super Mosquito Wonder is built in Athens? Some sort of increase in the effectiveness of bioweapons?

  136. On a related note... by Cervantes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    On a related funny story, in Western Canada, our mosquitoes are frequently larger than a quarter. Sometimes a loonie. Infrequently, a toonie. Most people will swear they saw at least one the size of a $5 bill. No-one has seen the fabled $10 bill version yet.
    In rural counties, when the Greyhound or other transport truck drives through, they have to stop at regular intervals to clean the front of the vehicle off. The bugs are so thick, especially on poorly lit rural roads, that their dead carcasses tend to completely block the radiator grill (thanks to the fine-mesh anti-snow grill we all use up here).
    The last time I took a greyhound through saskatchewan, we stopped after a few hours, the driver got out a stick, and knocked off a solid mat of dead insects, probably 1.5" thick, that covered the fronts of both side mirrors. It was heavy enough it made a "thump" when it hit the ground. The windshield wipers were hidden. The front grill was mostly covered, again almost 1" thick. He said that on differently designed busses with their altered aerodynamics, sometimes the bugs end up hitting the headlights, and frequent stops are required or you're soon driving in the dark.
    They can be so vicious, animals locked in a small pen are driven mad. City children who go out to the country for a day have been bitten so bad they can't flex their arm or leg (presumably, rural kids are used to it, or have developed some armour-like skin that the farmers are keeping secret until the revolution). Falling asleep without repellant on is just not done, as you'd wake up with bites over your entire body, even in the middle of the city. Inadvertantly wandering into a marshy area with a mosquito breeding area and stirring them up can seem to block out the sun. Even at my old house, in a small park in the middle of the big city, if i didn't keep the grass trimmed, I couldn't walk from car to house without getting bitten a dozen times.
    It's widely recognized as the severest hazing ritual, to take the young man, clothe him completely, tape him to a tree in a woody area, and then unzip and expose his manhood.
    Not for the embarasement factor, or the fun, but because after a few hours his manhood will be unrecognizable and he will be crazy with the urge to scratch.
    Many people have been bitten so severely, in normal, everyday circumstances, that they scratch themselves until they bleed.

    But, yeah, these Greek ones can see colour. Oooohhh, scary.

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  137. B vitamins by xluap · · Score: 1

    It is said you will not get stung by mosquito's if you use large amounts of B vitamins. While people near me are stung by mosquito's, I don't get stung much.

  138. Two libertarians in room = unresolveable argument by Medievalist · · Score: 1

    Your post was very interesting. It's the first time I've ever heard a self-labeled Libertarian say there might be some use for taxation.

    Libertarianism would have a fantastic appeal to the average joe if you could just resolve the protection of the commons issue; look how many former libertarians have defected to the Green party!

    Taxation on pollution of commons (air and water at the very least) is an extremely reasonable way to fund government, which supposedly exists "for the common good" after all. It's a hell of a lot better than taxing wages anyway.

  139. ...and now from Athens by Betabug · · Score: 1

    Excuse me, but I call bullsxxt on this one.

    I live in Athens and I don't see either giant mosqitoes, nor do I see more mosqitoes than usual. In fact I'll be happy to leave town for an island in summer, but I'm not looking forward to the increase in mosquitoes I will have to face there compared to Athens.

    1. Re:...and now from Athens by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

      So how's teh buttsecks there?

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    2. Re:...and now from Athens by chawly · · Score: 1

      Good question !

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  140. evolution is a fickle bitch by routerguy666 · · Score: 1

    One wonders why the Athenians haven't evolved pollution filtering mechanisms in their respiratory systems or a toxin carried in their blood that wards off these SUPER KILLER INSECTS FROM HELL.

  141. Ignoratio Elenchi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In fact, mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god.

    No. Mosquitoes are proof that God hates us.

  142. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looks like Athens should be working on increasing their bat population. a single little brown bat such as we have here in the US can catch about 1200 small insects (such as mosquito's) in a single hour.

    Just so long as they use their bat population and don't do something stupid like importing someone else's bats. Just ask Australia how well that sort of thing works.

  143. More people != better mosquitoes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do the mosquitos get faster and bigger? If there is plenty to eat I would expect the mosquitoes to get bigger (all animals get bigger or more numerous when conditions are good) but they could also afford to get slower and dumber.

  144. Re:Two libertarians in room = unresolveable argume by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 1

    Well, disclaimer that of course I speak mostly from personal opinion below, and that not all arguments are
    necessarily supported by evidence or reason due to constraints of space, time and my own study.

    There has been a significant shakeup at the most recent national convention of the Libertarian Party platform.
    While I agree in principle that force and coercion for "the greater good" are reprehensible, in the real world,
    tracing who is doing the forcing and who is not is not as easy as the anarchist elements claim, who always have a lynch mob ready to dispense fair justice when one's rights are infringed to avoid those all-too-complex systems of courts and police and lawyers.

    Anyone calling themselves a libertarian would disagree strongly with the use of criminal proceedings to jail someone for failing to give the government money it did not earn for a nebulous public good. The force is clear, it is violent, and it places a strong infringement of close personal liberty (one's body, one's freedom of movement) against many far less important liberties enjoyed by a larger group. It places the collective above the individual.
    I personally think one could argue in some situations the government may even be collecting a toll on the behalf of the citizenry on certain individuals or organisations who are making use of portions of the property of all. In all cases though, one must consider the individual's liberty to be the supreme good, and judge the results accordingly.

    Maximising individual liberty is an excellent goal I think. In the short term, it will help to pick the targets more judiciously. Trying to pluck apart this web of injustices could result in cutting out a piece something else depended on causing short-term harm to many. That's just a personal opinion though, one could really argue that both ways.

    There is a need for police forces, I think there always will be some government - trying to do these functions purely through exchange of information between ad-hoc mobs and various empowered agencies is simply beyond us or anyone non-borg... I just think the more local, the more regulated, the greater the separation of powers and the more accountable to the citizenry that government is, the better.

    At the recent convention the platform plank was dropped, pending rewrite. If you are interested in such things, feel free to drop by the platform reformat committee website.

    Regarding the Greens.
    I personally have never heard of this situation you describe, I suppose it is possible.
    I personally think, as mentioned, that simply suggesting more government regulation will help the commons is rather dubious. There are other alternatives, some already in use today, just insufficiently.
    We do get along rather well with the Greens, however. The Greens, Populists and Libertarians are all endorsing a Senatorial candidate in Maryland - as a matter of fact, if it wasn't for some quick Democratic action he'd be listed as all 3 on the ballot.

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  145. Beg to differ: Norwegian mosquitoes the worst? by maggern · · Score: 1

    I cant help but question the research. I remember reading an article a few years ago in a norwegian newspaper that stated that the norwegian (or rather the scandinavian) mosquitoes are the most agressive. This was supposed to be because our summer is pretty short and cold... giving the mosquitoes a short time to find a victim.

    Any commets? I think I smell blood?

  146. the chemical compounds by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 1

    ".. sealing their bodies in a foil sack, tied under the chin, and collecting and distilling the sweat that poured off them. ... Logan will not divulge the names of the chemicals until they are patented."

    Obviously, the chemical compounds are balsackaswetious and ascrakadripus. Any fool could see that.

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  147. Marmite by GrahamCox · · Score: 1

    Apparently, eating Marmite (Vegemite in Australia) helps make one's blood less palatable to Mosquitoes (maybe it's the high levels of vitamin B), so they'll pick on someone else. Does the USA have this wonder food? I'd like to know if this is a myth or not - one for Adam and Jamie I should think!

  148. It really works! by r00t · · Score: 1

    I saw a demo long ago on a Boy Scout trip. The demonstrator made sure to only let the mosquito land right in the middle of his biceps. Then he waited until the mosquito looked almost full, just about ready to leave. He then "made a muscle" as hard as he could and, sure enough, the mosquito popped.

    Cool. Eeeew. Very dumb, considering the diseases.

  149. Re: organic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    He just needs to put 'Organic' on the bottle
    It wouldn't hurt if he had a television commercial with a half-naked woman standing in a rain forest rubbing it on herself and moaning. That strategy seems to have worked well for some shampoo company that wants you to think orgasm when you hear the word organic. ;)
  150. DEET-immune Mosquitos and kids today by bumptehjambox · · Score: 1
    Everyone is saying DEET doesn't work anymore, is that really true? DEET always worked for me, but only that outdoorsman super concentrated stuff.

    When I was kid I'd sometimes spend the night out in my clubhouse and wake up with welts from my legs to my eyelids.
    Luckily, for today's kids, the mosquitos can't get on MySpace; so they're liable to never come in contact with one.

  151. Ritchie Rich by aphor · · Score: 1

    Shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations: your philanthropy kills the future producers in your own family first because you reserve the most of your excess as inheritance assets to your offspring making sure they never develop any of the productive tendencies and indeed develop the most powerful sense of entitlement and conspicuous consumption that the following generation will have nothing to pass to their offspring, and they must compete at a disadvantage with other families that are 60 degrees out of phase.

    If other people are communists and their economic ideas are so freaking inferior, then you don't need to SAY anything derogatory about collectivism or tax funded public works. Your magic invisible hand will do them in by evolutionary superiority. Ayn Rand was a WHINER.

    (Isn't the devil's advocate a kind of troll? Socrates?)

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  152. Made Up Word From Washington Post by Fox_E_Mama · · Score: 1

    Beelzebug (n.): Satan in the form of a mosquito, that gets into your bedroom at three in the morning and cannot be cast out.

  153. Garlic by jonored · · Score: 1
    Now, I've heard (and tried) that a sufficient dose of garlic will affect the scent of your skin/sweat/etc such that mosquitos no longer find you appealing. I actually tried this one year at boy scout camp - consumed a couple cloves of garlic raw a day, didn't bother with repellant. Didn't get bitten. Other people did.

    Hardly a scientific study, that, but it certainly might be worth a study, and I'll be carrying on with it in the current insufficiently tested state...

  154. Maine Moosequito by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 1

    Think you can escape mosquitoes by not living next to standing water? Well nature has a backup plan (especially in New Hampshire), the black fly. These little f**kers breed in cold, running streams. Their larvae attach themselves to the rocks. They are about the size of a tick. Instead of jabbing you with a dainty proboscis they scrape away a little dot of skin and slurp up the blood leaving you with a nice little spot for itching or a home for bacteria.

    "mosquitoes are pretty good proof that there is no god"

    No, they are proof that god is telling you not to live next to swamps and ponds. I saw a documentary where they filmed a lake in northern Sweden during the height of mosquito season. It literally sounded like a chainsaw and the air was gray with them. I've even read that reindeer herders in Siberia during the summer have to move their herds to protect them from the dense swarms (the thawed tundra surface becomes one big bog). They supposedly have found animals almost bled dry by them.

    The only defense I've found that truly works against mosquitoes and black flies is a bug hat, long sleeves, and long pants. Basically dress like a beekeeper.

    "rainfall would fill the insides of the tires with just enough water to make them each a breeding well for mosquitoes."

    Drilling drain holes around the rim of the tires would fix that.

    "I dream of the day when mosquitoes are endangered organisms."

    Maybe some day they'll invent a pill that makes your blood toxic to mosquito eggs (your blood feeds the eggs in the female's belly). If not then maybe we can bioengineer mosquitoes that inject statins into you with each bite. "Hey, I itch like crazy but my cholesterol has never been lower!"

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  155. Re:Or, we could just use DDT and there's no proble by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

    Kilos per hectacre is what I meant.
    It comes out to roughly two pounds per acre, which is what was recommended.

    Many farmers didn't give a shiat.
    DDT was cheap & they had crop dusters just pour it on.

    Maybe an ounce was all they needed, but it certainly wasn't what was recommended at the time & it most definitely wasn't even close to what they used per acre.

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  156. Mosquito Breeding Traps by initialE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Down here in Singapore there have been people who set up these traps for mosquitoes - They swear by it, it seems. The trap is a container of water with a membrane just at the surface. The mosquitoes can lay their eggs through it, but the larvae are unable to penetrate when they need to, and drown there. The rationale is that mosquitoes who expend their energies uselessly on these traps will not breed elsewhere.

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  157. Re:Two libertarians in room = unresolveable argume by FrostedChaos · · Score: 1

    Politics has a lot to do with technology, even though most people don't like to think about it.

    When the U.S. was founded back in 1777, it was a Libertarian paradise. No welfare state, no standing army, no EPA, no income taxes-- and a whole lot of decentralization. This kind of government worked well for that period of time.

    But times have changed. Technology has advanced.

    War, which used to be fought slowly over the course of months, by commanders who might not have even heard from their commanding officers in weeks, became a lightning-fast test of brinksmanship. The next world war might be over in the course of a few hours if nuclear missiles are involved. Thus, we need a standing army of some kind, and some kind of defense establishment.

    Industry, which used to be a bunch of artisans sitting in their homes plying their craft, became a massive, centralized, mechanized undertaking. Pollution became a serious problem, not only because of the lives it takes directly, but because of its long-term fatalities and effects on the landscape. Some chemicals do not naturally biodegrade-- for example, PCBs. So there needed to be an Environmental Protection Agency of some kind. Another problem was that since the consumers were now remote from the actual site of production, they began to have less and less idea of what they were consuming. To stop unscrupulous factory owners from selling tainted products, the Food and Drug Administration was formed.

    These are only a few examples. Now, you can argue that these parts of the government have not done their job as well as they could. Or you could propose something to replace them. But you must first show that whatever would replace them would be better.

    For example, if the Food and Drug Administration was replaced by a cartel of private businesses that refused to do business with anyone outside of the cartel, would this really be a fairer solution than the FDA as it is now? Government agencies are at least theoretically accountable to the public, whereas a cartel would not be. And to be considered a success, a cartel would have to have at least as much coercive power over producers as the FDA has now. So I do not believe there would be any advantage to this arrangement.

    Too often, political philosophies ignore the real and concrete issues of the day, and I'm afraid Libertarianism has been no exception.

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  158. Re:Minnesota State Bird... one SERIOUS by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    and MEAN Prairie Home Companion...

    Slash word image: fondling... (really, I took a ksnapshot of it, too...)

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  159. sony mosquitos by v1980z · · Score: 1

    50% better in detecting humans? 500/sec beating of the wings?! ...sorry, I'll stick with the wii ones p.s. and I won't even start with the bloodsucking capacity

  160. Niven did it... by Cyno01 · · Score: 1

    In Rainbow Mars he had people from an industrial polluted future, who where used to it, traveling back in time. They had to wear suits though, because they didnt build up enough CO2 with each breath in the old clean air. Then in one story they accidentaly destroyed Henry Ford's prototype and the time shift or whatever killed everyone in the future because the air changed before they did.

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  161. The African Bloodsucking Budgie by Murgalon · · Score: 1

    Down here in South Africa we had a discussion the other day regarding mosquito evolution. The buggers here are now able to sting through clothing. They still concentrate mainly on exposed ankles but if you sit quietly every now and then you will find that one comes and sits on a covered area and proceeds to try and sting through it. I have found that they can sting through thin socks or thin t-shirt material. It's best to wear tall boots since they find ankles still most attractive.

  162. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by nude-fox · · Score: 1

    I am convinced that although the electric bug zappers take out a lot of insects, and can be enjoyable to watch, they also seem to attract all the bugs from your neighbors yards into yours so put the bug zapper in your neighbors yard problem solved

  163. Blood != food for mosquitos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "healthy food supply"?

    They don't eat the blood, they (males and females) eat nectar.

  164. Living in Athens by Elusive_Cure · · Score: 1

    well....i've been living in athens for all my life and haven't heard of a super breed of mosquitoes. Ok' there are the usual mosquitoes you get all over greece but i for one can say that athens hasn't got the marshes or still water that "dangerous" (see infected) mosquitoes can breed. The ones that are bread in athens (city mosquitoes) are not that harmful they just bite. Last summer when i was doing my time in the greek army i was stationed in a unit close to the greek-turkish borders in the north, where the place is full of marshes and rivers,i can say that those "choppers" were utterly dangerous and annoying.A piece of advice. the article says that the info was taken from a newspaper called "ta nea - (the news)",which is a daily newspaper that when it doesnt have any proper news to display, they make up stories such as this one. So....dont fear that greece is full of diseases and shit like that, its silly..lol...

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    1. Re:Living in Athens by v1980z · · Score: 1

      ta nea make up stories? diavase karatzaferh na enhmerwtheis tote

  165. Pollution? by famebait · · Score: 1

    Air pollution and cramped housing conditions in Athens, Greece, are creating a new breed of mosquitoes which are bigger, faster

    Are you sure it's not just all those steroids and stuff from snacking on olympic athletes that is producing mosquitoes that are "swifter, higher, stronger"?

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  166. Link to the original Greek newspaper article ... by Doublezz · · Score: 1

    While the Yahoo News article link is a good summary of the original article from the Greek News daily newspaper Ta Nea July 4, 2006 story, if you want a link to the original story here it is: http://www.tanea.gr/print.php?e=A&f=18578&m=N15&aa =1 Of course you may not be able to read Greek! In that case go to the WorldLingo URL translator tool http://www.worldlingo.com/en/websites/url_translat or.html and enter in the URL, choose the language you want to translate from (Greek) and to (?English) and you get a pretty good machine translation of the complete text of the original article. Happy reading...

  167. All made up, you know, except for THAT one... by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    For those few who haven't figured it out yet, most of the things ascribed to Quayle were made up by his liberal opponents.

    Check out his own comments on the event in this article. While the media did blow it out of proportion, and it was used as an avenue to attack his intelligence, it did actually happen. As did several other gaffes. (Be sure to scroll down to read the things he actually DID say after the false attribution given by a Republican.)

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  168. African or European? by Cherveny · · Score: 1

    A few years back, there was the big scare in the US about "Africanized Bees". I wonder now if there will be a scare campaign for "Europeanized Mosquitos".

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  169. Re:Two libertarians in room = unresolveable argume by Derek+Pomery · · Score: 1

    Since we are arguing in generalties it is hard to respond with anything substantive,
    but I'd like to note that on the generality front I see technology as being a solution as well and even
    encouraging less centralisation.
    Communication technology in particular. As we improve the avenuse of communication there is less need
    for centralisation.
    Information technology as well. As we improve our aggregation, it becomes easier to identify "cheaters" in society.
    I am hopeful that, without invoking a magic internet saviour, it is possible to start building information
    aggregators that help to inform folks and reduce the need for beaurocracies which often have a hard time catching
    the cheaters anyway. Distribute the monitoring.

    That is not to say I don't agree strongly that there should be stiff penalties for those who knowingly cause
    harm to others. That is not in disagreement with libertarian principles - those folks the FDA cracked down on
    were hardly honouring some libertarian code. There is a difference between chaos and a free society.

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  170. I'm in! by kshade · · Score: 1

    Whoa, neat!

    - Bigger
    - faster
    - more capacity
    - color vision
    - better olfactoric sensors.

    That's a lot of improvement, can't wait to get my hands on those.
    I'm wondering when they will be out, what they will cost and if they run Linux.

  171. Re:Bats, Natures Mosquito Control device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    the electric bug zappers take out a lot of insects

    Mostly moths. Not so many mosquitos.

  172. Anecdotal evidence? by PeterAitch · · Score: 1

    I'll be in Athens (briefly) next week, so I'll let you know if I come across any of these critters; or they me.

    Here in the UK, one of my colleagues was recently bitten by a horsefly (in Wales) and had to be hospitalised to control the subsequent allergic reaction. She has always been OK in the past - anecdotal evidence that Welsh horseflies are evolving into horse-superflies?

  173. +1 Funny by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 1

    That was hillarious! I loved the part about the aviation fuel. Thanks! :^)

  174. Philanthropy by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 1

    If I had any say over the Gates foundation, I would direct huge sums toward the permanent mass reduction or elimination of the mosquito. I would justify it as a way to stall the spread of malaria and west nile, but deep down I'd really just want to kill the fuckers.

  175. Re:Three Magic Letters! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    DDT cannot be locally-determined for widespread use because it has produced DDT-resistent strains all over the world. These populations then migrate, spreading DDT-resistent populations. Thus reducing the use of DDT for human usage for protecting homes against insects. In most of the areas where malaria is a problem, DDT-resistent strains are the norm because of abuses.

    P.S. junkscience is a propaganda organization started by the tobacco industry to discredit science in the minds of the U.S. population in order to improve tobacco sales. Given that you barely completed secondary school that might appeal to you, but it really shouldn't. It's full of lies, and the DDT issue is one of them. Cigarette smoke is not good for you, by the way.