> Tier Two. 1024 Kbps down, 128 Kbps up. Same up/download caps but outside uploads are 500MB/month. PPPoE (with static IP optional). $44.99/month, $5 for every 100MB or portion thereof overlimit, $5/month for static IP.
Jeez you're expensive. I hope you know that you'll get undercut big time by the the compet ---
"Wine is not good because it is open source", or "Microsoft's compilers are bad because it is closed source", are examples of Begging the question.
Nonsense. Let's compare:
Proposition 1: Open Source is not good Wine is Open Source therefore, Wine is not good
Closed source is bad MSVC is closed source therefore, MSVC is bad
These are perfectly valid arguments. They may not necessarily be sound, since the truth of the propositions is questionable, but their validity is not in question.
Here's begging the question:
Steve Ballmer is a big bald mean strongman. Steve Ballmer stands intimidatingly over people. therefore, Steve Ballmer is a brute.
The conclusion is just the first proposition in different words. Petito Principi is a formal fallacy, i.e. a fallacy of form. Often you can substitute a different truthful proposition in place of the first and get a sound argument, so arguing against form alone is a pretty weak argument (it puts forth no rebuttals) and a good way to get rope-a-doped in a debate.
BTW, to "beg the question" is a way of saying "demand the question", and to beg a question is to force it to be asked. The fallacy is when you beg your original question, i.e. one of your propositions (and satisfy the demand). The phrase "beg the question" to mean "an obvious question must be asked" quite probably predates the naming of the fallacy -- where do you think the colloquialism for the fallacy came from in the first place?
Because good sized chunks of the development kit does not come with linux. Go browse the MSDN library CD, or browse it online. Check out the support for an object model that guarantees that any language the major compiler vendors put out, as well as a plethora of scripting languages, will be able to interface with it. I can script my mail app with everything from VB to python to C++. I am buried in more voluminous documentation than I will ever have time to read.
To say for a Linux dev environment "some assembly required" is to grievously understate the problem. The only thing a Linux environment has going for it in terms of documentation is a much bigger base of sample code.
It costs real money to put together a good development kit. But just ask Carmack why he prefers to develop on NT.
I thought the initial NT "heavily borrowed" (MS tradition) from the Digital Equipment Corp (now part of HP) VAX operating system. Then it gradually incorporated parts of the evolving Windows/DOS OS.
That would be VMS (some VAXen ran Ultrix, poor things). IBM and MS started a collaboration called OS/2, then later decided to part ways. Whatever MS's other motives were in the split, MS was staking its entire future on what was to IBM a toy project, so MS wasn't entirely enthusiastic about development at IBM speed. IBM kept the OS/2 name, MS hired Dave Cutler from DEC, Cutler dubbed the new fork WNT: that's the letters after VMS, and any expansion is entirely a backronym.
NT does include some of VMS's heritage, including strong async I/O support throughout. The DOS stuff is really a matter of emulating the interface -- a whole lot of work went into making drive letters and backslashes work everywhere, believe it or not. Not surprisingly, it tends to share more in common with OS/2, with the supervisor design and the object manager for starters.
None of my apps use the number 4.3.0, so I'm safe.
Would it be too much to ask to make headlines make a smidgen of sense in the "older articles" section by actually including something like the name of the product affected?
As a simpler analogy; the vector graphics are to the transformation pipeline or a graphics card what bitmaps (and pngs) are to the rasterization on the video card. Transformation without rasterization is meaningless, and therefore always going to be slower.
Except that most 3d cards will rasterize them internally and not have to a) use main memory, b) transfer main memory across the bus, or c) involve the CPU in a meaningful way. If a good SVG to OGL or D3D mapping can be found, you most certainly can render it faster than a PNG.
Too much effort. My favorite is: "oh hey hold on, lemme get my wife/husband/gf/llama, you should talk to him/her/it."
Put phone on hold. And forget about it completely.
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Maybe the author was unable to write anything but hacks, and couldn't make anything elegant or maintainable. I've written programs with multiple subsystems, and put them well into maintenance without a lick of trouble, all in perl.
Yes, $dd->updsp( 1,3, @ad ) looks worse than $Driver->update_displays( $Display:LOBBY, $Display:CUSTSERV, @additional ), and boy it's just a shame that perl doesn't let me use meaningful identifiers or document API's or forward declare functions for arg checking ahead of time. Oh wait... Really. The argument is dead, continuing to raise it is just trolling.
I switched to python because I got tired of leaning on my shift key. Tcl has probably the prettiest syntax for me, but as a language it's braindead beyond belief (not to mention slow)
> Phoenix seems a little too promiscuous about accepting Java, and doesn't remove.class files when it flushes the cache. Check the %WINDIR%/.jpi_cache/ directory structure..jpi_cache is not the browser cache, and is controlled by the java plug-in control panel (no idea how you get to it on *nix). There was once a problem with the plugin caching too aggressively, but I'm told that's fixed in the 1.4 series.
As GvR correctly says, there's simply more text to type in Java, to a large part because of the overhead of Java's static typing (aka "keeping the compiler happy"), but also because Python is slightly more high-level than Java.
Once I discovered Ocaml, I found out that you can have both strong typing at compile time, without having to actually use types (but I can if I want to). I can have polymorphism without inheritance trees (again I can if I want to), and I can have interfaces without interface keywords (and I have pattern matching if I want it). Actually I found this in Haskell, but I just can't wrap my brain around monads... different story.
Type inference really is the best of both worlds. I just can't go back to the 1960's compiler technology of explicit typing anymore. Sometimes I have to, but I complain all the way.
3.) There was one or more formations in which a porcupine was found in the very center, flattened and dead. Its Quills were arranged in the same spiral pattern as the circle. Go Here.
At the very least, I expected a picture. I mean, the part of me that wants to believe there's anything to this beyond some a bunch sophisticated hoaxsters and credulous crystal-rubbers.
The skeptical, scientific part of me, the part of me that has a mind open enough to prefer to stay ignorant about the world and admit to holding such ignorance and keeping an open mind about the options including the mundane explanations rather than accept as a working theory the first wild-ass idea that comes around, actually would prefer corroborated evidence with real investigatory forensic technique. Too much to ask.
Maybe I'm being unfair, and picked on the first link I followed (mostly because it sounded so damn funny) and was so sorely disappointed. So educate me.
No kidding. If there's that many hard core enthusiasts, I have one word: gnutella. The connector site need only use magnet or ed2k urls then. Very cheap. What would be slick is if someone could hack on protozilla to fetch those automatically.
> My first two programming classes were in Java. I really think we would have had more fun learning the same concepts in Python
Most of the concepts anyway, and CS should certainly be taught in the highest level language possible, but software engineering really does have to train you on the disgusting realities of compilers, strong typing, and all the other crippling baggage of industry languages. It's a shame there's still such a disconnect between theory and application... in fact the gap between CS theory and practice is probably stronger than in other engineering professions, due to the cost of retraining folks when the software is such a commodity and no delay can be afforded.
I'm not talking about high-minded ivory tower things like pure functional programming, I'm talking about stuff that should be really basic parts of most languages by now, like type inference.
> You're a peer, you reviewed it, you found a problem. Why didn't you correct it?
He did not review it. He stumbled on something glaringly obvious that written by someone who didn't have any clue what they were talking about. It's not his job to fact-check things that could have been verified by looking them up in other sources, when he could have just gone to the other source.
I see wikipedia as a sort of free H2G2, and a great test to see how wiki scales -- not technically, since there's so many implementations (wikipedia uses usemod, which doesn't even use a db -- sql, bdb or otherwise), but in terms of being a commons and in finding the minimal mechanisms needed to avoid or at least ameliorate the tragedy of the commons.
As an information resource... enormous grain of salt.
... the porn industry leads the way in video display technologies!
lord it just kills me .. and maybe slashdot too
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someone pays these folks to edit. I really thought I'd see the day when VA/Sourceforge wondered why they were doling out bandwidth and salaries for/. instead of newsforge. I suppose when VA goes under... but maybe not, there's too much brand recognition in slashdot.
Hell, I'm posting. But I'm not subscribing. Ever. And banner ad revenues and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee.
> If microsoft opened up their all their software tonight. Tomorrow morning every windows server would be down, every internet-connected desktop would be down, Infact anything that could be down would be down
Complete utter nonsense. The administrator password on my machine is foofra. The IP address is 192.168.1.179
> Javascript and Java have *nothing* to do with each other.. nothing at all.
You can instantiate and control Java objects with Javascript, and there was the intent from the start to make it a scripting language leveraging java applets. It just only got there halfway, with a sort of funky FFI to java objects, especially since the Java side doesn't get to see much of the Javascript, but it's still not so bad for scripting java objects. Not great either though, I prefer beanshell, which is far more deserving of a moniker like "java script" (which for maximum confusion, also exists). Weblogic now ships with bsh.
How does Perl Data Language compare with Numeric Python? numpy is awesome stuff, and PDL looks rather similar. Anywhere where PDL shines that numpy doesn't, or vice versa? Or is it mostly a matter of language preference?
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> Tier Two. 1024 Kbps down, 128 Kbps up. Same up/download caps but outside uploads are 500MB/month. PPPoE (with static IP optional). $44.99/month, $5 for every 100MB or portion thereof overlimit, $5/month for static IP.
Jeez you're expensive. I hope you know that you'll get undercut big time by the the compet ---
Oh hey, good model.
At one point, NetHack had everything but the kitchen sink. Then they added the kitchen sink. What more could you want? :-)
How about a kitchen? It could have a tin opener, an icebox, and of course some cleaver-wielding cooks...
"Wine is not good because it is open source", or "Microsoft's compilers are bad because it is closed source", are examples of Begging the question.
Nonsense. Let's compare:
Proposition 1:
Open Source is not good
Wine is Open Source
therefore, Wine is not good
Closed source is bad
MSVC is closed source
therefore, MSVC is bad
These are perfectly valid arguments. They may not necessarily be sound, since the truth of the propositions is questionable, but their validity is not in question.
Here's begging the question:
Steve Ballmer is a big bald mean strongman.
Steve Ballmer stands intimidatingly over people.
therefore, Steve Ballmer is a brute.
The conclusion is just the first proposition in different words. Petito Principi is a formal fallacy, i.e. a fallacy of form. Often you can substitute a different truthful proposition in place of the first and get a sound argument, so arguing against form alone is a pretty weak argument (it puts forth no rebuttals) and a good way to get rope-a-doped in a debate.
BTW, to "beg the question" is a way of saying "demand the question", and to beg a question is to force it to be asked. The fallacy is when you beg your original question, i.e. one of your propositions (and satisfy the demand). The phrase "beg the question" to mean "an obvious question must be asked" quite probably predates the naming of the fallacy -- where do you think the colloquialism for the fallacy came from in the first place?
So why hasn't Linux taken off yet?
Because good sized chunks of the development kit does not come with linux. Go browse the MSDN library CD, or browse it online. Check out the support for an object model that guarantees that any language the major compiler vendors put out, as well as a plethora of scripting languages, will be able to interface with it. I can script my mail app with everything from VB to python to C++. I am buried in more voluminous documentation than I will ever have time to read.
To say for a Linux dev environment "some assembly required" is to grievously understate the problem. The only thing a Linux environment has going for it in terms of documentation is a much bigger base of sample code.
It costs real money to put together a good development kit. But just ask Carmack why he prefers to develop on NT.
I thought the initial NT "heavily borrowed" (MS tradition) from the Digital Equipment Corp (now part of HP) VAX operating system. Then it gradually incorporated parts of the evolving Windows/DOS OS.
That would be VMS (some VAXen ran Ultrix, poor things). IBM and MS started a collaboration called OS/2, then later decided to part ways. Whatever MS's other motives were in the split, MS was staking its entire future on what was to IBM a toy project, so MS wasn't entirely enthusiastic about development at IBM speed. IBM kept the OS/2 name, MS hired Dave Cutler from DEC, Cutler dubbed the new fork WNT: that's the letters after VMS, and any expansion is entirely a backronym.
NT does include some of VMS's heritage, including strong async I/O support throughout. The DOS stuff is really a matter of emulating the interface -- a whole lot of work went into making drive letters and backslashes work everywhere, believe it or not. Not surprisingly, it tends to share more in common with OS/2, with the supervisor design and the object manager for starters.
None of my apps use the number 4.3.0, so I'm safe.
Would it be too much to ask to make headlines make a smidgen of sense in the "older articles" section by actually including something like the name of the product affected?
Oh wait, it is.
Dennis Ritchie need only put two words on his resume: Dennis Ritchie
I'd believe your story if I hadn't heard it verbatim a dozen times before with the company names changed.
I mean, it's a funny story, but do you really have to pass it off as the truth?
As a simpler analogy; the vector graphics are to the transformation pipeline or a graphics card what bitmaps (and pngs) are to the rasterization on the video card. Transformation without rasterization is meaningless, and therefore always going to be slower.
Except that most 3d cards will rasterize them internally and not have to a) use main memory, b) transfer main memory across the bus, or c) involve the CPU in a meaningful way. If a good SVG to OGL or D3D mapping can be found, you most certainly can render it faster than a PNG.
Too much effort. My favorite is: "oh hey hold on, lemme get my wife/husband/gf/llama, you should talk to him/her/it."
Put phone on hold. And forget about it completely.
Maybe the author was unable to write anything but hacks, and couldn't make anything elegant or maintainable. I've written programs with multiple subsystems, and put them well into maintenance without a lick of trouble, all in perl.
Yes, $dd->updsp( 1,3, @ad ) looks worse than $Driver->update_displays( $Display:LOBBY, $Display:CUSTSERV, @additional ), and boy it's just a shame that perl doesn't let me use meaningful identifiers or document API's or forward declare functions for arg checking ahead of time. Oh wait... Really. The argument is dead, continuing to raise it is just trolling.
I switched to python because I got tired of leaning on my shift key. Tcl has probably the prettiest syntax for me, but as a language it's braindead beyond belief (not to mention slow)
> Phoenix seems a little too promiscuous about accepting Java, and doesn't remove .class files when it flushes the cache. Check the %WINDIR%/.jpi_cache/ directory structure. .jpi_cache is not the browser cache, and is controlled by the java plug-in control panel (no idea how you get to it on *nix). There was once a problem with the plugin caching too aggressively, but I'm told that's fixed in the 1.4 series.
As GvR correctly says, there's simply more text to type in Java, to a large part because of the overhead of Java's static typing (aka "keeping the compiler happy"), but also because Python is slightly more high-level than Java.
... different story.
Once I discovered Ocaml, I found out that you can have both strong typing at compile time, without having to actually use types (but I can if I want to). I can have polymorphism without inheritance trees (again I can if I want to), and I can have interfaces without interface keywords (and I have pattern matching if I want it). Actually I found this in Haskell, but I just can't wrap my brain around monads
Type inference really is the best of both worlds. I just can't go back to the 1960's compiler technology of explicit typing anymore. Sometimes I have to, but I complain all the way.
3.) There was one or more formations in which a porcupine was found in the very center, flattened and dead. Its Quills were arranged in the same spiral pattern as the circle. Go Here.
At the very least, I expected a picture. I mean, the part of me that wants to believe there's anything to this beyond some a bunch sophisticated hoaxsters and credulous crystal-rubbers.
The skeptical, scientific part of me, the part of me that has a mind open enough to prefer to stay ignorant about the world and admit to holding such ignorance and keeping an open mind about the options including the mundane explanations rather than accept as a working theory the first wild-ass idea that comes around, actually would prefer corroborated evidence with real investigatory forensic technique. Too much to ask.
Maybe I'm being unfair, and picked on the first link I followed (mostly because it sounded so damn funny) and was so sorely disappointed. So educate me.
No kidding. If there's that many hard core enthusiasts, I have one word: gnutella. The connector site need only use magnet or ed2k urls then. Very cheap. What would be slick is if someone could hack on protozilla to fetch those automatically.
> My first two programming classes were in Java. I really think we would have had more fun learning the same concepts in Python
... in fact the gap between CS theory and practice is probably stronger than in other engineering professions, due to the cost of retraining folks when the software is such a commodity and no delay can be afforded.
Most of the concepts anyway, and CS should certainly be taught in the highest level language possible, but software engineering really does have to train you on the disgusting realities of compilers, strong typing, and all the other crippling baggage of industry languages. It's a shame there's still such a disconnect between theory and application
I'm not talking about high-minded ivory tower things like pure functional programming, I'm talking about stuff that should be really basic parts of most languages by now, like type inference.
> You're a peer, you reviewed it, you found a problem. Why didn't you correct it?
... enormous grain of salt.
He did not review it. He stumbled on something glaringly obvious that written by someone who didn't have any clue what they were talking about. It's not his job to fact-check things that could have been verified by looking them up in other sources, when he could have just gone to the other source.
I see wikipedia as a sort of free H2G2, and a great test to see how wiki scales -- not technically, since there's so many implementations (wikipedia uses usemod, which doesn't even use a db -- sql, bdb or otherwise), but in terms of being a commons and in finding the minimal mechanisms needed to avoid or at least ameliorate the tragedy of the commons.
As an information resource
... the porn industry leads the way in video display technologies!
someone pays these folks to edit. I really thought I'd see the day when VA/Sourceforge wondered why they were doling out bandwidth and salaries for /. instead of newsforge. I suppose when VA goes under ... but maybe not, there's too much brand recognition in slashdot.
Hell, I'm posting. But I'm not subscribing. Ever. And banner ad revenues and a buck will buy you a cup of coffee.
> I have yet to see MOM (message oriented middleware) offerings on Linux
m id dleware+open+source
... at least try to discuss the current offerings instead of saying it's not out there at all.
http://www.google.com/search?q=mqseries+linux
http://www.google.com/searchq=message+oriented+
Honestly
> If microsoft opened up their all their software tonight. Tomorrow morning every windows server would be down, every internet-connected desktop would be down, Infact anything that could be down would be down
Complete utter nonsense. The administrator password on my machine is foofra. The IP address is 192.168.1.179
What's that, you can't get to it?
Oh yeah.
> Javascript and Java have *nothing* to do with each other.. nothing at all.
You can instantiate and control Java objects with Javascript, and there was the intent from the start to make it a scripting language leveraging java applets. It just only got there halfway, with a sort of funky FFI to java objects, especially since the Java side doesn't get to see much of the Javascript, but it's still not so bad for scripting java objects. Not great either though, I prefer beanshell, which is far more deserving of a moniker like "java script" (which for maximum confusion, also exists). Weblogic now ships with bsh.
> Last time I checked AOL/Time Warner was a helluva lot bigger than Apple
So is Microsoft.
How does Perl Data Language compare with Numeric Python? numpy is awesome stuff, and PDL looks rather similar. Anywhere where PDL shines that numpy doesn't, or vice versa? Or is it mostly a matter of language preference?
Believe it or not, in Israel, it still is legal for the time being to be Palestinian in a public place.
Ah, but I have been trolled. Pardon me.