my oldest just went into his freshman year at a nearby college. They *gave* him a mac book pro and an ipad. And he's not in an engineering or science school or degree. Is that unusual? My techie alma matter a loooong time ago was starting to give out then cutting-edge PCs
There were options of new, used, rent and e- books. He asked me what I thought re paper vs ebooks. My thoughts were that in his 3rd or 4th year, when he gets access to the "for his major equivalents" of K&R's *C programming* or Aho and Ullmans *compilers* he can buy used versions of those as references or to carry around from move to move until he eventually tossed them. Till then he was all too happy to have his text books on the ipad.
would be interesting if the research(ers) could remove the tourists. Maybe tourists are identified as folks who spent most of their time tweeting from a zip other than Manhattan (e.g. they tweet most of their time from Scranton, PA, so NYC looks pretty darn cool).
Enough of us laypeople blathering on about twitter as a surrogate poling technique: Time for Nate Silver to ride in and call statistical BS on tweeting as relevant means of gauging sentiment. But maybe he's busy creating data for ESPN guys calling the over/under for the opening season NFL games.
Rob - 2nd the original post. Go back and read the transcript. It was you and whoever Robin is talking vaguely about inside stuff, and making noise about circumventing paywalls.
What I'd expected you to talk about:
1 - when did you see the decline of wapo coming, and what did you do to position yourself ? or were you just surprised one day when folks were shown the door ? Were all the old school folks at wapo blind about craigslist, etc ? did anyone *try* to educate the execs at wapo back when the internet was coming to age in the 90's ?
2 - how can a free press (as in press, not beer) in the western world still afford to pay experienced professionals to go places, and reliably and legibly report on stuff when their words are given away for free (as in beer). You've manged to assemble a free-lancers living from various sources, is that the way the future will be ? Why would anyone that wants to make a living go to college as a reporter ? Can you propose a - tech based - proposal that the geeks at/. can go implement over a weekend?
once on my smartphone, it's in the cloud. Think about this, the NSA can now crowd source finding a license plate or a person just from all the networked smartphones being used as dashcams. Thrown in a little GPS and facial / pattern recognition, and you have 'insta find'. Cheaper than keeping all those drones up in the air too.
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others."
Skill ? no question gamers are skilled
*physical* *exertion* ? really ? really ?
competition ? again, no question
Leave all the required functions as hard buttons and the non-essentials to smart phones:
hard buttons include stuff like lights and hv/ac.
soft stuff are all the non critical 'info tainment'... the nav systems and audio stuff. Those technologies are all progressing so fast that I'll likely have 3-4 phones in the lifetime of my car. Maybe give me a dumb touch screen in the car so the nav's a little bigger and more 'heads up' than my galaxy sIII . That same galaxy siii which appropriately interrupts the iheart radio playing over my car's bluetooth to give me the recommended route to avoid traffic, which my now 3 year car could never even think about doing, as neither service existed 7 years ago when my car was being designed.
sorry - still not clear what someone - the FBI - can do with a UDID ? can the FBI tell what (terrorist) podcasts I listen to ? can they track where I go ? do my listening habits correlate to the potential to commit crime?
Target can predict if you're pregnant , so can my listening habits be corrlated as well ?
baracuda is getting ready to sell reputations of your followers ?:)
spam blocking, having been commoditized years ago, the security folks need to move on to something 'in'
agreed. Especially if 'we' couldn't even get electronic voting machines sorted, this is just silly to think we could turn to an unregulated, for profit, free for all 'mechanism,' and return anything of value is scary. Think about it - the pro candidate A twitter.com company decides to prod pro-A voters into action by reporting tweets projecting a candidate B win a state.
Not that what you said will stop anyone from reporting upon what twitter reports. Where's that dude from fivethirtyeight when you need him?
marking entire story as negative:
I completely get that *my* understanding of the story or TFA might well be at fault. In this case, the modded up posts all effectively voted down the story as being/. worthy.
legal prescedent:
It is slightly interesting to note that a tweet was arrest-worthy. Knowing only a little about case law in the US, and less in the UK, I'm left wondering what's different about tweeting 'his dad would have been disappointed' and his writing to a paper in the op ed section, or taking out an ad. Legally, I'd presume that there's no difference. Practically, there is, as the paper would never publish such twaddle.
Tweeting has removed (most) barriers to anyone permanetly expressing themselves, without any deliberation or peer review. Moderation is what/. has going for it that I'd have hoped other forums would have adopted. Tweeting has (virtually) no moderation.
is there a way to allow the posters to vote on the story itself, so the entire story could fall below the threshold of being worthy of readable, and by the time I got around to looking at/., the story would have been yelled down ? What makes/. useful is that amidst the noise posts, insightful and funny folks vet TFA in ways that as individuals, we never could. It'd be good to do that vetting as a whole. This story clearly being a good candidate for being voted negative.
I don't see the type of customer that amazon serves the same as the one that walmart does. Amazon's seems more in competition with 'target' type of consumer.
It'll be interesting to watch this play out, as facebook doesn't really have the same type of brand associated with it like a walmart or target. I don't see consumers who've been buying stuff from amazon now saying 'gee, I can buy crappy stuff from wal-mart on facebook, sign me up !'
i'd like the historians to try to guess at who was living there, and what could have happened to end up with the garmets stored under the floorboards. Was this a move 'hurry honey hide the loot, we're gonna get sacked,' or more of a typical move at the time to keep the precious goods protected.
More amazingly, that neck of the woods and that castle has seen quite a few wars and changing borders and owners between then and now. Amazing that the castle, and the floor board contents have withstood that amount of time 'unopened.'
the writing style sniffs like Mr. Mann is a little futher along the autistic spectrum than a lot on/. The whole thing about showing McD's employees the letter is just wierd. McD's employees can't really care... about *anything*.
There are a bunch of this story that don't make sense, but the main one is that if he was accosted, he'd go to the police, if not the management at McD's. Not a blog.
So I'm left with the thought that he's spinning what he created years ago in light of what google is coming out with - google who's getting the press google - as an attempt to set out what he's created well before google.
love the post, and the irony. Huffpo and/. are very similar sites in that they rarely generate their own articles, rather referring to what others have written.
What/. has that makes it a little better than huffpo, is moderation and karma. Yes,/. tends towards the 'ms is evil, linux is great, stealing music is a right' mindset, sure. But, more or less, when I do go to/., the moderation "works" such that I only look at modded up comments. Also, *most* of those modded up are effectively peer reviewed. The crowd either confirms, or trashes the original story and subsequent comments.
Huffpo could add value to their site by adding the same auto-moderation technologies that/. has had for years.
this got modded up ? the question has nothing to do with camping or not, that's just the instance. The point of the article, is the US, for the most part, by coddling their kids, messing up. I think the answer is, yes. Camping or dirt are just good examples of coddling. So is the parent who does their kids homework for them, or writes their college entrance essay. That essay gets them into the college under false pretense.
if Assange was being extradited for being a leaker,then this warrants being/. ed. However, he's not being extradited for his role in wikileaks, just that he's being accused of using what appears to be his overly inflated self-image to foist himself unwanted on a woman. So is the 'it's/. -able' if they're known to the tech community, and do stupid stuff in their personal life ? That'd fill a lot of/. pages.
I'm conflicted
so if I've researched , 'build your own surface to air missiles,' and 'flight paths of commericial airlines' , I'd sure expect the CIA/FBI to put me on a watch list, and issue warrants for various wiretaps.
And if I went into a pharmacy, and started asking the pharmacist about how much of a drug I needed to knock someone out cold, it wouldn't be crazy for the pharmacist to make a call to the police.
The reality of being able to actually do the google-precog, and hand off to the authorities 'leads' however just scares the **** out of me for the reasons all the above posters have already stated (whose posts are more in line with proper/. group-thinking)
*this analysis* is why *I* read/. Letting other, smarter folks do critical analysis that I couldn't. Even if I could remember my college maths, I couldn't have done this analysis.
I guess 'informative' covers this, but maybe there needs to be an 'excellent analysis' mod ?
thanks, Chemisor
one that'd have all the lower priority empty cars and trucks in it, running the most efficiently up and down hills, maximizing energy use by the vehicle, drafting just the right amount.... and does the EZ-pass for the ZOV get charged less or more...
and... maybe you could send your car out to troll for riders while you're at work or after work... leading to.... "it's 10PM do you know where your car is ?"
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my oldest just went into his freshman year at a nearby college. They *gave* him a mac book pro and an ipad. And he's not in an engineering or science school or degree. Is that unusual? My techie alma matter a loooong time ago was starting to give out then cutting-edge PCs There were options of new, used, rent and e- books. He asked me what I thought re paper vs ebooks. My thoughts were that in his 3rd or 4th year, when he gets access to the "for his major equivalents" of K&R's *C programming* or Aho and Ullmans *compilers* he can buy used versions of those as references or to carry around from move to move until he eventually tossed them. Till then he was all too happy to have his text books on the ipad.
would be interesting if the research(ers) could remove the tourists. Maybe tourists are identified as folks who spent most of their time tweeting from a zip other than Manhattan (e.g. they tweet most of their time from Scranton, PA, so NYC looks pretty darn cool). Enough of us laypeople blathering on about twitter as a surrogate poling technique: Time for Nate Silver to ride in and call statistical BS on tweeting as relevant means of gauging sentiment. But maybe he's busy creating data for ESPN guys calling the over/under for the opening season NFL games.
did you take notes in English class on a laptop ? :) (pls don't mod me down, the irony of the post made me do it )
in an inverted fashion from how Nate Silver surfaced way back in 08 that under-representing cell-phone-only voters in polls under- represented the young, it'd seem that using twitter as a representative sampling will under-represent the old - e.g. those who vote more than the young do? http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/19/obamas-lead-looks-stronger-in-polls-that-include-cellphones/?_r=0
really ?
just a matter of time till it's done
Rob - 2nd the original post. Go back and read the transcript. It was you and whoever Robin is talking vaguely about inside stuff, and making noise about circumventing paywalls. What I'd expected you to talk about: 1 - when did you see the decline of wapo coming, and what did you do to position yourself ? or were you just surprised one day when folks were shown the door ? Were all the old school folks at wapo blind about craigslist, etc ? did anyone *try* to educate the execs at wapo back when the internet was coming to age in the 90's ? 2 - how can a free press (as in press, not beer) in the western world still afford to pay experienced professionals to go places, and reliably and legibly report on stuff when their words are given away for free (as in beer). You've manged to assemble a free-lancers living from various sources, is that the way the future will be ? Why would anyone that wants to make a living go to college as a reporter ? Can you propose a - tech based - proposal that the geeks at /. can go implement over a weekend?
once on my smartphone, it's in the cloud. Think about this, the NSA can now crowd source finding a license plate or a person just from all the networked smartphones being used as dashcams. Thrown in a little GPS and facial / pattern recognition, and you have 'insta find'. Cheaper than keeping all those drones up in the air too.
"An activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others." Skill ? no question gamers are skilled *physical* *exertion* ? really ? really ? competition ? again, no question
Leave all the required functions as hard buttons and the non-essentials to smart phones: hard buttons include stuff like lights and hv/ac. soft stuff are all the non critical 'info tainment' ... the nav systems and audio stuff. Those technologies are all progressing so fast that I'll likely have 3-4 phones in the lifetime of my car. Maybe give me a dumb touch screen in the car so the nav's a little bigger and more 'heads up' than my galaxy sIII . That same galaxy siii which appropriately interrupts the iheart radio playing over my car's bluetooth to give me the recommended route to avoid traffic, which my now 3 year car could never even think about doing, as neither service existed 7 years ago when my car was being designed.
sorry - still not clear what someone - the FBI - can do with a UDID ? can the FBI tell what (terrorist) podcasts I listen to ? can they track where I go ? do my listening habits correlate to the potential to commit crime? Target can predict if you're pregnant , so can my listening habits be corrlated as well ?
baracuda is getting ready to sell reputations of your followers ? :)
spam blocking, having been commoditized years ago, the security folks need to move on to something 'in'
agreed. Especially if 'we' couldn't even get electronic voting machines sorted, this is just silly to think we could turn to an unregulated, for profit, free for all 'mechanism,' and return anything of value is scary. Think about it - the pro candidate A twitter.com company decides to prod pro-A voters into action by reporting tweets projecting a candidate B win a state. Not that what you said will stop anyone from reporting upon what twitter reports. Where's that dude from fivethirtyeight when you need him?
marking entire story as negative: I completely get that *my* understanding of the story or TFA might well be at fault. In this case, the modded up posts all effectively voted down the story as being /. worthy.
legal prescedent:
It is slightly interesting to note that a tweet was arrest-worthy. Knowing only a little about case law in the US, and less in the UK, I'm left wondering what's different about tweeting 'his dad would have been disappointed' and his writing to a paper in the op ed section, or taking out an ad. Legally, I'd presume that there's no difference. Practically, there is, as the paper would never publish such twaddle.
Tweeting has removed (most) barriers to anyone permanetly expressing themselves, without any deliberation or peer review. Moderation is what /. has going for it that I'd have hoped other forums would have adopted. Tweeting has (virtually) no moderation.
is there a way to allow the posters to vote on the story itself, so the entire story could fall below the threshold of being worthy of readable, and by the time I got around to looking at /., the story would have been yelled down ? What makes /. useful is that amidst the noise posts, insightful and funny folks vet TFA in ways that as individuals, we never could. It'd be good to do that vetting as a whole. This story clearly being a good candidate for being voted negative.
I don't see the type of customer that amazon serves the same as the one that walmart does. Amazon's seems more in competition with 'target' type of consumer. It'll be interesting to watch this play out, as facebook doesn't really have the same type of brand associated with it like a walmart or target. I don't see consumers who've been buying stuff from amazon now saying 'gee, I can buy crappy stuff from wal-mart on facebook, sign me up !'
i'd like the historians to try to guess at who was living there, and what could have happened to end up with the garmets stored under the floorboards. Was this a move 'hurry honey hide the loot, we're gonna get sacked,' or more of a typical move at the time to keep the precious goods protected. More amazingly, that neck of the woods and that castle has seen quite a few wars and changing borders and owners between then and now. Amazing that the castle, and the floor board contents have withstood that amount of time 'unopened.'
the writing style sniffs like Mr. Mann is a little futher along the autistic spectrum than a lot on /. The whole thing about showing McD's employees the letter is just wierd. McD's employees can't really care ... about *anything*.
There are a bunch of this story that don't make sense, but the main one is that if he was accosted, he'd go to the police, if not the management at McD's. Not a blog.
So I'm left with the thought that he's spinning what he created years ago in light of what google is coming out with - google who's getting the press google - as an attempt to set out what he's created well before google.
love the post, and the irony. Huffpo and /. are very similar sites in that they rarely generate their own articles, rather referring to what others have written.
What /. has that makes it a little better than huffpo, is moderation and karma. Yes, /. tends towards the 'ms is evil, linux is great, stealing music is a right' mindset, sure. But, more or less, when I do go to /., the moderation "works" such that I only look at modded up comments. Also, *most* of those modded up are effectively peer reviewed. The crowd either confirms, or trashes the original story and subsequent comments.
Huffpo could add value to their site by adding the same auto-moderation technologies that /. has had for years.
this got modded up ? the question has nothing to do with camping or not, that's just the instance. The point of the article, is the US, for the most part, by coddling their kids, messing up. I think the answer is, yes. Camping or dirt are just good examples of coddling. So is the parent who does their kids homework for them, or writes their college entrance essay. That essay gets them into the college under false pretense.
if Assange was being extradited for being a leaker ,then this warrants being /. ed. However, he's not being extradited for his role in wikileaks, just that he's being accused of using what appears to be his overly inflated self-image to foist himself unwanted on a woman. So is the 'it's /. -able' if they're known to the tech community, and do stupid stuff in their personal life ? That'd fill a lot of /. pages.
I'm conflicted so if I've researched , 'build your own surface to air missiles,' and 'flight paths of commericial airlines' , I'd sure expect the CIA/FBI to put me on a watch list, and issue warrants for various wiretaps. And if I went into a pharmacy, and started asking the pharmacist about how much of a drug I needed to knock someone out cold, it wouldn't be crazy for the pharmacist to make a call to the police. The reality of being able to actually do the google-precog, and hand off to the authorities 'leads' however just scares the **** out of me for the reasons all the above posters have already stated (whose posts are more in line with proper /. group-thinking)
*this analysis* is why *I* read /. Letting other, smarter folks do critical analysis that I couldn't. Even if I could remember my college maths, I couldn't have done this analysis.
I guess 'informative' covers this, but maybe there needs to be an 'excellent analysis' mod ?
thanks, Chemisor
one that'd have all the lower priority empty cars and trucks in it, running the most efficiently up and down hills, maximizing energy use by the vehicle, drafting just the right amount .... and does the EZ-pass for the ZOV get charged less or more ...
and ... maybe you could send your car out to troll for riders while you're at work or after work ... leading to .... "it's 10PM do you know where your car is ?"
sniffs eerily similar to SCO