My point was that it's far easier for Adobe/etc. to compile their app for another CPU or hardware than it it to program it for another OS altogether. There are a few catches here and there, but it's not like you are changing every single API call just to make it work. If there was an open OS running your software, then anyone coming along later wanting to make as many apps compatible for their system could put in a "Linux Application Compatibility Layer" and run said apps without having to reverse engineer the entire API (aka: Wine) just to get things to sort of work.
I'd rather see the OS level of the computer be as open as possible while the software itself I could care less about. If a company can create a stand-in program that achieves the goals of a customer and the customer is willing to pay for it, where is the problem?
(Also, where did I elude to saying that Linux isn't open OS?)
Personally, I'd rather see an open operating system used for all apps. This way people can improve and build upon it and write competing systems easier. That way, if you buy Photoshop/Game/Autocad for Linux, there's a better chance that it will run (or be quickly ported) on a competitor so you don't feel locked to a specific company because you spent thousands on a specific app for a specific job.
They also exclude crowd control (you aren't healing, doing damage, or tanking) You are preventing an enemy from doing damage to a player. In a way it's kind of like a third person tank/healer but you are doing neither technically.
That's why I loved my Enchanter so much in EQ. I could get around the world, couldn't kill a thing to save my life... but put me in a group with DPS, Tank and a Healer and I increased the ability of the group 3-4 fold.
I only saw the first movie and I only remember it being about some half naked chick and cheesy quotes that sounded like they came from a 1950s propaganda booklet.
You make a point, but I would like to add a bit on that subject...
All you have to do is knock the Moon off orbit and Earth could be in for a fun ride... You wouldn't need to directly attack Earth. Just an object big enough (or a small object traveling fast enough) to change or degrade the orbit of the Moon. If you planned it well enough (and I'm assuming computers in that time would be able to calculate multiple trajectories...) you could simply upset the balance of the meteor belt and send objects hurling at us without us knowing where it came from.
In fact, it's making me wonder why we'd want to remain on such a fragile environment (when/if space travel becomes viable) and we start a conflict in space or piss off the natives of a more advanced society.
Crap, I hit submit then remembered I wanted to touch on this subject as well...
has Microsoft actually done anything directly to undermine open source -- and, in particular, have they ever done so while appearing to support it?
Yes, the Microsoft licenses,.NET "Shared" source (not open source!) move and the elusive OOXML (look, it's open) that had closed/elusive formats included in it.
In fact, all this pretension that Microsoft thinks is Open Source isn't really open and free. From what I interpreted above, it's more of the same. You can look at it, but don't you dare use it without putting your cash on the counter.
This appears to at least be trying to be an independent organization.
My experience in the corporate world teaches me that any company that has a Chair on the Board will be the new product we will be acquiring. Put a person from HP on the Board and lo-and-behold all new printers are HP and those old Epson/IBM(Lexmark) printers are all e-wasted. Put someone from Symantec on the Board and suddenly there's an initiative to replace McAfee with Symantec AV...
I don't see anything new coming of this Foundation/Corporation and it's Board.
All these questions seem to do is try to separate TCF from codeplex.com instead of answering the questions of why it was created in the first place when such companies exist (like OSI.) The only thing I can see is that Microsoft has a hand in it. I'm reminded of the Java debacle all over again. (They can't control it directly, so they made up a new one that they con control indirectly.)
To provide support for companies wishing to implement all kinds of (.NET/Windows) open source projects and push the Microsoft licensing model forward to these projects, companies, and individuals instead of going with the defacto standards for open source.
Fault: (geology) a crack in the earth's crust resulting from the displacement of one side with respect to the other; "they built it right over a geological fault"; "he studied the faulting of the earth's crust"
I makes me wonder... I'm no geologist by any measure, but there's obviously pressure built up in that area. Wouldn't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action? Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?
You go and change the rules of the game by comparing an athletic female to a couch potato male... what if the roles weer reversed and you have an athletic male and couch potato female?
I think you are getting too wrapped up in this whole debate. Step back and breath.
I believe the pizza has to be cut into about 50 pieces then each piece is given to a friend who gives it to another friend until said pizza is spread across the entire pizza shop. There should be a centralized table that we will call a pizza tracker. Geeks can walk up and request their pizza be assembled from parts of other people's pizza. The rest of the people in the shop will then hand the customer a part of their pizza until they meet their ratio and stop.
You laugh, but I've been woken many times by Girls Gone Wild commercials and I realize I fell asleep watching something I recorded and WANTED to watch. I've referred to it many times as my soft porn alarm clock.
I have to give credit to Sharp. I bought an Aquos 52" TV this past year and they included the GPL statements and a link to obtain busybox on their site. The link wasn't working at first and I emailed them to get the source and the link started working again the next day. Following the rules isn't all that hard to do. I don't see why there would be such a huge problem with companies providing a link.
I agree with you on the Walmart aspect... but my point was mainly that the land was not being taken as much as it was being bought.
Generally I don't agree that a Wal-Mart is proper utilization of Eminent Domain but there are cases where such domain could be used for things other than roads when the city would benefit more from the acquisition than letting things be. One of those cases involve land works to provide a dependable source of water for local farms or other such projects. When one company benefits from such a "taking" then it's generally not a public benefit.
I can walk into the doctor's office right now and pay for a checkup. I have access. Everyone has that access. Claiming that you can't pay for it doesn't make it a non-accessible object. That's like saying that owning my own company is not an accessible task or driving an SUV is not accessible.
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My point was that it's far easier for Adobe/etc. to compile their app for another CPU or hardware than it it to program it for another OS altogether. There are a few catches here and there, but it's not like you are changing every single API call just to make it work. If there was an open OS running your software, then anyone coming along later wanting to make as many apps compatible for their system could put in a "Linux Application Compatibility Layer" and run said apps without having to reverse engineer the entire API (aka: Wine) just to get things to sort of work.
I'd rather see the OS level of the computer be as open as possible while the software itself I could care less about. If a company can create a stand-in program that achieves the goals of a customer and the customer is willing to pay for it, where is the problem?
(Also, where did I elude to saying that Linux isn't open OS?)
Personally, I'd rather see an open operating system used for all apps. This way people can improve and build upon it and write competing systems easier. That way, if you buy Photoshop/Game/Autocad for Linux, there's a better chance that it will run (or be quickly ported) on a competitor so you don't feel locked to a specific company because you spent thousands on a specific app for a specific job.
Er... slight correction. They did include crowd control, but they nerfed the living daylights out of it and handed it to the tank.
They also exclude crowd control (you aren't healing, doing damage, or tanking) You are preventing an enemy from doing damage to a player. In a way it's kind of like a third person tank/healer but you are doing neither technically.
That's why I loved my Enchanter so much in EQ. I could get around the world, couldn't kill a thing to save my life... but put me in a group with DPS, Tank and a Healer and I increased the ability of the group 3-4 fold.
I only saw the first movie and I only remember it being about some half naked chick and cheesy quotes that sounded like they came from a 1950s propaganda booklet.
...or paying someone else to throw it.
You make a point, but I would like to add a bit on that subject...
All you have to do is knock the Moon off orbit and Earth could be in for a fun ride... You wouldn't need to directly attack Earth. Just an object big enough (or a small object traveling fast enough) to change or degrade the orbit of the Moon. If you planned it well enough (and I'm assuming computers in that time would be able to calculate multiple trajectories...) you could simply upset the balance of the meteor belt and send objects hurling at us without us knowing where it came from.
In fact, it's making me wonder why we'd want to remain on such a fragile environment (when/if space travel becomes viable) and we start a conflict in space or piss off the natives of a more advanced society.
We promise not to sue you, but we won't promise not to put in something proprietary and usage encumbering later.
Then why make a promise in the first place, just make it free. There's a reason behind this "promise."
Crap, I hit submit then remembered I wanted to touch on this subject as well...
has Microsoft actually done anything directly to undermine open source -- and, in particular, have they ever done so while appearing to support it?
Yes, the Microsoft licenses, .NET "Shared" source (not open source!) move and the elusive OOXML (look, it's open) that had closed/elusive formats included in it.
In fact, all this pretension that Microsoft thinks is Open Source isn't really open and free. From what I interpreted above, it's more of the same. You can look at it, but don't you dare use it without putting your cash on the counter.
This appears to at least be trying to be an independent organization.
My experience in the corporate world teaches me that any company that has a Chair on the Board will be the new product we will be acquiring. Put a person from HP on the Board and lo-and-behold all new printers are HP and those old Epson/IBM(Lexmark) printers are all e-wasted. Put someone from Symantec on the Board and suddenly there's an initiative to replace McAfee with Symantec AV...
I don't see anything new coming of this Foundation/Corporation and it's Board.
It's like the FSF, but they don't want software to be free. ;)
So it's pretty much the kryponite of the FSF.
All these questions seem to do is try to separate TCF from codeplex.com instead of answering the questions of why it was created in the first place when such companies exist (like OSI.) The only thing I can see is that Microsoft has a hand in it. I'm reminded of the Java debacle all over again. (They can't control it directly, so they made up a new one that they con control indirectly.)
...it has a different purpose.
To provide support for companies wishing to implement all kinds of (.NET/Windows) open source projects and push the Microsoft licensing model forward to these projects, companies, and individuals instead of going with the defacto standards for open source.
Right? He never touched that line of questioning.
Fault: (geology) a crack in the earth's crust resulting from the displacement of one side with respect to the other; "they built it right over a geological fault"; "he studied the faulting of the earth's crust"
I makes me wonder... I'm no geologist by any measure, but there's obviously pressure built up in that area. Wouldn't drilling holes to break holds and release some of that plate pressure by causing smaller quakes be a preferred course of action? Would it either be that or waiting for one giant major natural shift that could cause even more damage?
You go and change the rules of the game by comparing an athletic female to a couch potato male... what if the roles weer reversed and you have an athletic male and couch potato female?
I think you are getting too wrapped up in this whole debate. Step back and breath.
I believe the pizza has to be cut into about 50 pieces then each piece is given to a friend who gives it to another friend until said pizza is spread across the entire pizza shop. There should be a centralized table that we will call a pizza tracker. Geeks can walk up and request their pizza be assembled from parts of other people's pizza. The rest of the people in the shop will then hand the customer a part of their pizza until they meet their ratio and stop.
party of geeks.
I thought it was a "summons of geeks"...
You laugh, but I've been woken many times by Girls Gone Wild commercials and I realize I fell asleep watching something I recorded and WANTED to watch. I've referred to it many times as my soft porn alarm clock.
The TV menus, decoding, and such are, I believe, Linux driven. The firmware can be upgraded via a USB key.
http://mktg.sharpusa.com/newsletters/files/gpl.htm
I have to give credit to Sharp. I bought an Aquos 52" TV this past year and they included the GPL statements and a link to obtain busybox on their site. The link wasn't working at first and I emailed them to get the source and the link started working again the next day. Following the rules isn't all that hard to do. I don't see why there would be such a huge problem with companies providing a link.
Gaming is a right! You're damn sure someone's gonna pay for me to play.
I agree with you on the Walmart aspect... but my point was mainly that the land was not being taken as much as it was being bought.
Generally I don't agree that a Wal-Mart is proper utilization of Eminent Domain but there are cases where such domain could be used for things other than roads when the city would benefit more from the acquisition than letting things be. One of those cases involve land works to provide a dependable source of water for local farms or other such projects. When one company benefits from such a "taking" then it's generally not a public benefit.
I can walk into the doctor's office right now and pay for a checkup. I have access. Everyone has that access. Claiming that you can't pay for it doesn't make it a non-accessible object. That's like saying that owning my own company is not an accessible task or driving an SUV is not accessible.