Because we're a progressive world, where we successfully freed women from the oppresion of having a nice household, a partner who takes cares of them, and pursuing the ultimate biological goal of reproduction. Now they can enjoy being forced into being competitive just as men are. Remember girls, now you have to earn the right to use your womb now, better get working because you'll need the money in case you decide to unfreeze your eggs and have a baby a couple of years before your retirement.
So better get into engineering even if you don't like it because babies are fucking expensive now! Uh? you don't like it? well that's because your internalized patriarchy doesn't let you think straight you silly girl.
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi *and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like, 'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ] DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor. ---
Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929/bin/ed -rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970/usr/ucb/vi -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990/usr/bin/emacs
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed ? help ? ? ? quit ? exit ? bye ? hello? ? eat flaming death ? ^C ? ^C ? ^D ?
--- Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
I despise online gaming, but in the little experience I have with gaming online guys usually treat each other like shit. Also they usually use whatever insult they can throw at you based on your nick or their knowledge about you, so if your nick is GamerGurl434 they'll probably call you a cunt. You're actually asking a preferential treatment to girls based on their gender.
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying old developers are useless, quite the contrary, they are really valuable. But I'd put it in different positions, specially if they are experienced on designing big projects. Sometimes an older guy will know which path to follow when developing a new solution because he has seen it before. I think that older developers do great as project managers, team leaders. Specially if they are open minded and they allow younger ones to experiment with new technologies without getting too carried away.
But getting old in tech DOES have it's downsides, which is slower learning, persistence of habits and having less time to spend in self-improvement.
But not as fast as younger ones, and also if they got the habit of pissing on your favorite couch it will take ages to teach them not to
I know older developers and they are always eager to learn a new language, but they usually carry on with their old habits and programs in the same way, with the same workflow he's used to. They just won't adapt to new methodologies (TDD, BDD or even some newer Design Patterns). So you've got a guy that programs in Haskell the same way he programmed in C++, PHP or Perl.
I've got told by an older developer that I shouldn't bother testing my code because "you can also program it right"
The point is, you can't just compare Rust, or any language, against any other arbitrary language and then bash it because it fails.
GP raised more than the string handling problem.
I don't know much about rust but what I can observe is that most people use it as an example of a computer programming language done right. Wanna bash X language? then put Rust as an example of how to do it the right way. So that might justify GP point of comparing it against other languages
The main difference is that the guys who forked Xonotic, MATE and other projects expressed their dissatisfaction via code, not an edgy smear campaign with a "haXXor" like page citing FUD about things they didn't actually understand.
could perform delicate brain surgery with a Leatherman multi-tool but not so interesting to figure out if you can perform the same surgery with a hand grenade and some duct tape.
Where does the name come from?
The name "MATE", pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate.
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This usually involves a few snobby dickheads "reviewing" your code
Not in my experience, I'm not a gnome contributor, but I sent a patch for a ticket for sound juicer long ago. The guy (I think Ross Burton) was really helpful and forgiving for my errors. I think both parties have to put their egos aside, specially when trying to cooperate.
I think it's not the same. Gnome 2 spawned briefly the GoneMe fork, but as soon as Gnome developers started implementing new features this fork dissapeared. Right now you have 2 Gnome forks, Mate and Cinnamon, and both of them are gaining popularity and some developers are even considering switching to another toolkit for their apps.
I don't hate Gnome 3, I used it, and worked for me (until the feature removal thing got ridiculous). The problem seems with the removal of useful features that are NOT coming back, and there were really nicely implemented stuff that got removed:
- Twin panel Nautilus (never used it, but many people loved it)
- Nautilus statusbar (no need to right click-> properties to see free space)
- Decent Theme chooser (The guy at Cinnamon even improved it with a download theme feature much like KDE Does)
- Being able to change typography settings.
- Being able to change WM options, and startup applications (not present in.desktop files) , pretty much every configurable thing on the desktop.
- Even if you were able to choose focus follows mouse, it wouldn't be possible to work with the current way appliations handle it's second menubar (which is a really strange way to hide settings BTW)
Also Gnome 3 it's NOT EASY, and it's NOT INTUITIVE. When presented with both desktops and a list of simple tasks new users simply cannot figure out what to do. Gnome 2 had made a lot of progress to be intuitive, gnome 3 sets those back by: hiding menus, removing descriptive text in favor of monochromatic icons (which might not be meaningful for many users).
The thing is that these criticism is taken as "oh you hate gnome", no I love gnome that's why it makes me sad to go from a very good DE to an experimental shell. This time I think gnome devs should listen a little and just put a decent settings manager with some checkboxes instead of just blindly removing features.
I could see Mate and XFCE merged, but I think that Cinnamon/Gnome and XFCE are way on the opposite direction. XFCE wants to be lightweight and traditional, Gnome doesn't.
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> in the gnome fork
oh today is opposite day I see.
I've seen a lot of people happy with Gnome 3. I kinda liked some aspects of it but in the end you realize that you traded more-for-less when using it.
don't tell me what to do.
You can change the screensaver?
what's next? being able to change the font size? /s
yeah? I thought the latest trend was hating on Red Hat. Now we hate Ubuntu again?
Oh boy! Being a Slashdot user is never boring.
huh? a lone brogrammer? who was his bro?
"Why should there even be a "solution"?"
Because we're a progressive world, where we successfully freed women from the oppresion of having a nice household, a partner who takes cares of them, and pursuing the ultimate biological goal of reproduction. Now they can enjoy being forced into being competitive just as men are. Remember girls, now you have to earn the right to use your womb now, better get working because you'll need the money in case you decide to unfreeze your eggs and have a baby a couple of years before your retirement.
So better get into engineering even if you don't like it because babies are fucking expensive now! Uh? you don't like it? well that's because your internalized patriarchy doesn't let you think straight you silly girl.
When I log into my Xenix system with my 110 baud teletype, both vi *and* Emacs are just too damn slow. They print useless messages like, 'C-h for help' and '"foo" File is read only'. So I use the editor that doesn't waste my VALUABLE time.
Ed, man! !man ed
ED(1) UNIX Programmer's Manual ED(1)
NAME
ed - text editor
SYNOPSIS
ed [ - ] [ -x ] [ name ]
DESCRIPTION
Ed is the standard text editor.
---
Computer Scientists love ed, not just because it comes first alphabetically, but because it's the standard. Everyone else loves ed because it's ED!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
And ed doesn't waste space on my Timex Sinclair. Just look:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 24 Oct 29 1929 /bin/ed /usr/ucb/vi /usr/bin/emacs
-rwxr-xr-t 4 root 1310720 Jan 1 1970
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root 5.89824e37 Oct 22 1990
Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
golem> ed
?
help
?
?
?
quit
?
exit
?
bye
?
hello?
?
eat flaming death
?
^C
?
^C
?
^D
?
---
Note the consistent user interface and error reportage. Ed is generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm the novice with verbosity.
"Ed is the standard text editor."
Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA! ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES! ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!! ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR! ED MAKES THE SUN SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
TEXT EDITOR.
When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi? No. Emacs? Surely you jest. They chose the most karmic editor of all. The standard.
Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on. If you are an idiot, you should use Emacs. If you are an Emacs, you should not be vi. If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION. THE SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE FAITHLESS. DO NOT GIVE IN!!! THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
you just can't win with some people.
Great comment BTW, I wish I had mod points
no different from the guys they meet
I despise online gaming, but in the little experience I have with gaming online guys usually treat each other like shit. Also they usually use whatever insult they can throw at you based on your nick or their knowledge about you, so if your nick is GamerGurl434 they'll probably call you a cunt. You're actually asking a preferential treatment to girls based on their gender.
perhaps
Don't get me wrong I'm not saying old developers are useless, quite the contrary, they are really valuable. But I'd put it in different positions, specially if they are experienced on designing big projects. Sometimes an older guy will know which path to follow when developing a new solution because he has seen it before. I think that older developers do great as project managers, team leaders. Specially if they are open minded and they allow younger ones to experiment with new technologies without getting too carried away.
But getting old in tech DOES have it's downsides, which is slower learning, persistence of habits and having less time to spend in self-improvement.
But not as fast as younger ones, and also if they got the habit of pissing on your favorite couch it will take ages to teach them not to
I know older developers and they are always eager to learn a new language, but they usually carry on with their old habits and programs in the same way, with the same workflow he's used to. They just won't adapt to new methodologies (TDD, BDD or even some newer Design Patterns). So you've got a guy that programs in Haskell the same way he programmed in C++, PHP or Perl.
I've got told by an older developer that I shouldn't bother testing my code because "you can also program it right"
Sorry for my poor english.
The point is, you can't just compare Rust, or any language, against any other arbitrary language and then bash it because it fails.
GP raised more than the string handling problem.
I don't know much about rust but what I can observe is that most people use it as an example of a computer programming language done right. Wanna bash X language? then put Rust as an example of how to do it the right way. So that might justify GP point of comparing it against other languages
/thread
The main difference is that the guys who forked Xonotic, MATE and other projects expressed their dissatisfaction via code, not an edgy smear campaign with a "haXXor" like page citing FUD about things they didn't actually understand.
If the problem is solved, then move the development focus elsewhere. And I thought that FSF didn't actually like the idea of GPL2-only things?
You can't just force contributors out of a project. Because you know, freedom and shit
(a Wilson volleyball, perhaps)
I've tried that but it all turns out into yelling "WILSON! WILSOOOON!" non-stop, instead of my usual curses and rants.
The others have just not enough subtlety. I like this one. nothing bets OMG PONIEZ yet!
could perform delicate brain surgery with a Leatherman multi-tool but not so interesting to figure out if you can perform the same surgery with a hand grenade and some duct tape.
BRB, buying duct tape
No it's not :)
From mate's site:
Where does the name come from? The name "MATE", pronounced Ma-Tay, comes from yerba maté, a species of holly native to subtropical South America. Its leaves contain caffeine and are used to make infusions and a beverage called mate.
This usually involves a few snobby dickheads "reviewing" your code
Not in my experience, I'm not a gnome contributor, but I sent a patch for a ticket for sound juicer long ago. The guy (I think Ross Burton) was really helpful and forgiving for my errors. I think both parties have to put their egos aside, specially when trying to cooperate.
Mate like in my own language (I'm argentinian so I'm cheating on this one hehe)
I think it's not the same. Gnome 2 spawned briefly the GoneMe fork, but as soon as Gnome developers started implementing new features this fork dissapeared. Right now you have 2 Gnome forks, Mate and Cinnamon, and both of them are gaining popularity and some developers are even considering switching to another toolkit for their apps.
I don't hate Gnome 3, I used it, and worked for me (until the feature removal thing got ridiculous). The problem seems with the removal of useful features that are NOT coming back, and there were really nicely implemented stuff that got removed:
Also Gnome 3 it's NOT EASY, and it's NOT INTUITIVE. When presented with both desktops and a list of simple tasks new users simply cannot figure out what to do. Gnome 2 had made a lot of progress to be intuitive, gnome 3 sets those back by: hiding menus, removing descriptive text in favor of monochromatic icons (which might not be meaningful for many users).
The thing is that these criticism is taken as "oh you hate gnome", no I love gnome that's why it makes me sad to go from a very good DE to an experimental shell. This time I think gnome devs should listen a little and just put a decent settings manager with some checkboxes instead of just blindly removing features.
Another problem that Mate solved for me :)
I could see Mate and XFCE merged, but I think that Cinnamon/Gnome and XFCE are way on the opposite direction. XFCE wants to be lightweight and traditional, Gnome doesn't.