Supposing we do something that ties the rates doctors are paid to the amount of time they spend doing something. The next batch of things we become incensed and appalled about will be how they always take too long to do something. That is, if we pay more when things take longer.
Why shouldn't we pay the doctor the same amount for a procedure if they figure out a way to do it better or faster or with less side effects or a smaller possibility of significant damage? Perhaps its a little much to pay for 75 minutes, which it took 15 years ago, instead of the 15 minutes it takes now. But paying for just the 15 minutes is a recipe for disaster. People will maximize their own benefit. Things won't become better and faster and safer. That's just the way it works.
Additionally, there has got to be some range of effectiveness in medicine. Some doctors, surely, can do a good job on a particular patient in 10 minutes while another will take 20 to accomplish the same thing or 10 to do a crummy job. To some degree, those that do poor work will eventually be weeded out or see their practice decline to some degree. Word does get out. People talk.
The summary mentioned someone who got 26 hours worth of doctoring done in one day. Should we not reward him or her for efficiency. I see it as better when I get things done in less time than someone else provided I do a good job. Why would it be different for doctors?
I'm not making any attempt at being fair minded here. The arguments for the other side of this are plain and well enumerated so far. But there's more to it than that.
Be careful what you measure. Its true in software development and true in medicine.
Goldilocks and the Three Bears with Commercials...
This porridge is too hot. This porridge is too cold. This porridge is just right.
This bed is too hard. This bed is too soft. This bed is just right.
Typical solution is to fire all the truly innovative and effective people and keep the ones that caused the problems. Sometimes whole departments that were doing a good job will disappear.
If a few good people are missed they can't stand the new politically charged environment and lack of common sense, so they quit before long.
If you think about it, there are some interesting differences in understanding audio speech and written text. Think about English. In audio the problem is telling "synthetic" from "sin the tick" or some such phrase and there are no punctuation marks to delineate the sentences. In text the problem is telling "read" from "read" (the 2nd is past tense). Of course, there are a zillion (or so) such problems in just understanding things. You can use context to disambiguate. But the problems are different for text and audio. Its not as simple as converting audio to text and then text to the other language and then text to speech. (Oh and BTW, the problems are different for different languages.)
Seems to me you "forfeit customer support" whenever you buy anything more complex than a carton of milk. Oh, there are exceptions but I think I could defend the general case.
What I can't figure out is how we are buying all these new scanner machines and patting down everyone that can't or won't go through them BUT we don't seem to have the technology or extra money to get a machine that will scan you with your belt and shoes on.
I think people would applaud spontaneously when told by TSA that they could leave their shoes on and, no, the belt can stay on the pants. But millions of dollars later, you can't leave your shoes on and you now have to remove your belt.
(Bulky jewelry and clothes with grommets could be left on your person for version 2.0 of the scanner machines for another few million.)
Rewrite in APL and its only 13 lines of code. (Showing my age, huh?)
Rewrite it in Lisp and its 120 Million parentheses.
And if you use the old cut-and-paste-code-reuse pattern it doesn't take as long to generate one line of code anyway.
I agree with the legislator. Let's remove all those unfair sales taxes the brick-and-morter companies have to collect from their customers. Let's do it right away.
A lot of homeschooled kids end up socially disfunctional because they aren't put into extra curricular activities where most socializing happens even in public schools.
And public school is so "functional" with such mature "socializing" going on?
For $300 dollars you could buy the same machine used OR you could buy a new battery. I haven't found buying new batteries for 2 year old (or more) laptops to be compelling over the last 10 years. (NOTE: Prices not exact and may not be quoted. For comparison purposes only.)
And no, not all devices support AAC, although many do, in particular the most popular portable media player (with 70% of the market).
And what percentage of the car audio player market? And what percentage of the home stereo market? And what percentage of the DVD player market and... There is more to audio than the portable player market.
Sounds like a car rental company's pricing. Run a big optimization program in the background. Add a little human intervention in case it makes stupid pricing choices now and then. Some cool code watches how things are selling and, eventually, the prices change based on your IP address, time of day, things you have bought recently and at what prices, gender and how fast you type or click or read. Sounds like an MBA's dream come true.
I think the change, in part, is due to the fact that with CD and advances in amplifier and speaker technology the default fidelity setting is "high enough" for most people. I still cringe when I actually listen to a set of Bose or B&W speakers in a quiet setting. So... when you have all that road noise in your car AM radio is good enough if the station is close. When you want to walk around and listen to music AND don't have any cash, the ear buds are good enough. When your goal is to impress your peers, rumbling and shaking and blinking lights is good enough. And... drum roll... when you are at home the default CD player is good enough.
I noticed a problem back in the 90's when I started getting MSDN subscriptions on CD. There were all these technical articles on the CDs and I could go look at the old ones and find stuff to fix old programs that still used "outdated" technology.
Then, things improved and we could look up all that stuff on the web and I found that, now and then, the stuff on the web would change. The archives were "corrected" to put in the current spin to whatever bug the old article was talking about. Then the old articles started disappearing. (I suppose disk space just got too expensive to keep all that old stuff.)
If you keep the old articles on paper, they don't ever change. If you keep them on removable media like CD they don't ever change (but you might not be able to read them when you upgrade your hardware). If you expect someone else to keep them on the web, good luck. (Plus you don't ever know they changed unless you have a photographic memory. Mine's more of a paraplegic memory.)
I hadn't noticed that paper magazines were that useful after getting rained on or dropped in the tub (or wherever).
A little water is ok but not a lot.
Of course the replacement cost is higher with electronics.
I think the Apple II may have had the first copy protected program. Visicalc came out late in 1979, as I remember. (A spreadsheet... not a game.)
They doubled the sector numbers stored in the sector header on each track. A regular copy wouldn't be able to find the odd numbered sectors and failed.
The disk had to use a patched version of Apple DOS that did the sector number doubling when reading but wouldn't do that when saving or loading data files from another diskette.
When a friend that worked at a computer store called me and said you couldn't copy the Visicalc disk, the puzzle consumed me. (This is not a desirable character trait, trust me.) I borrowed his original and messed with it until I found the answer.
There was a program to copy Visicalc that even got an article in the Wall Street Journal around then. Front page of one of the back sections.
I suspect the same is true for a lot of regular Slashdot readers Why would you insult Slashdot readers by calling them "regular" or are you referring to a well balanced diet including plenty of fruits and vegetables?
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Supposing we do something that ties the rates doctors are paid to the amount of time they spend doing something. The next batch of things we become incensed and appalled about will be how they always take too long to do something. That is, if we pay more when things take longer. Why shouldn't we pay the doctor the same amount for a procedure if they figure out a way to do it better or faster or with less side effects or a smaller possibility of significant damage? Perhaps its a little much to pay for 75 minutes, which it took 15 years ago, instead of the 15 minutes it takes now. But paying for just the 15 minutes is a recipe for disaster. People will maximize their own benefit. Things won't become better and faster and safer. That's just the way it works. Additionally, there has got to be some range of effectiveness in medicine. Some doctors, surely, can do a good job on a particular patient in 10 minutes while another will take 20 to accomplish the same thing or 10 to do a crummy job. To some degree, those that do poor work will eventually be weeded out or see their practice decline to some degree. Word does get out. People talk. The summary mentioned someone who got 26 hours worth of doctoring done in one day. Should we not reward him or her for efficiency. I see it as better when I get things done in less time than someone else provided I do a good job. Why would it be different for doctors? I'm not making any attempt at being fair minded here. The arguments for the other side of this are plain and well enumerated so far. But there's more to it than that. Be careful what you measure. Its true in software development and true in medicine.
Goldilocks and the Three Bears with Commercials ...
This porridge is too hot. This porridge is too cold. This porridge is just right.
This bed is too hard. This bed is too soft. This bed is just right.
All well and good in places where you have long open stretches. In mountains, that's just not the case.
Typical solution is to fire all the truly innovative and effective people and keep the ones that caused the problems. Sometimes whole departments that were doing a good job will disappear. If a few good people are missed they can't stand the new politically charged environment and lack of common sense, so they quit before long.
If you think about it, there are some interesting differences in understanding audio speech and written text. Think about English. In audio the problem is telling "synthetic" from "sin the tick" or some such phrase and there are no punctuation marks to delineate the sentences. In text the problem is telling "read" from "read" (the 2nd is past tense). Of course, there are a zillion (or so) such problems in just understanding things. You can use context to disambiguate. But the problems are different for text and audio. Its not as simple as converting audio to text and then text to the other language and then text to speech. (Oh and BTW, the problems are different for different languages.)
I was anti-social before social was in.
Seems to me you "forfeit customer support" whenever you buy anything more complex than a carton of milk. Oh, there are exceptions but I think I could defend the general case.
What I can't figure out is how we are buying all these new scanner machines and patting down everyone that can't or won't go through them BUT we don't seem to have the technology or extra money to get a machine that will scan you with your belt and shoes on.
I think people would applaud spontaneously when told by TSA that they could leave their shoes on and, no, the belt can stay on the pants. But millions of dollars later, you can't leave your shoes on and you now have to remove your belt.
(Bulky jewelry and clothes with grommets could be left on your person for version 2.0 of the scanner machines for another few million.)
Rewrite in APL and its only 13 lines of code. (Showing my age, huh?)
Rewrite it in Lisp and its 120 Million parentheses.
And if you use the old cut-and-paste-code-reuse pattern it doesn't take as long to generate one line of code anyway.
I agree with the legislator. Let's remove all those unfair sales taxes the brick-and-morter companies have to collect from their customers. Let's do it right away.
A lot of homeschooled kids end up socially disfunctional because they aren't put into extra curricular activities where most socializing happens even in public schools.
And public school is so "functional" with such mature "socializing" going on?
For $300 dollars you could buy the same machine used OR you could buy a new battery. I haven't found buying new batteries for 2 year old (or more) laptops to be compelling over the last 10 years. (NOTE: Prices not exact and may not be quoted. For comparison purposes only.)
And no, not all devices support AAC, although many do, in particular the most popular portable media player (with 70% of the market).
And what percentage of the car audio player market? And what percentage of the home stereo market? And what percentage of the DVD player market and ... There is more to audio than the portable player market.
Sounds like a car rental company's pricing. Run a big optimization program in the background. Add a little human intervention in case it makes stupid pricing choices now and then. Some cool code watches how things are selling and, eventually, the prices change based on your IP address, time of day, things you have bought recently and at what prices, gender and how fast you type or click or read. Sounds like an MBA's dream come true.
I think the change, in part, is due to the fact that with CD and advances in amplifier and speaker technology the default fidelity setting is "high enough" for most people. I still cringe when I actually listen to a set of Bose or B&W speakers in a quiet setting. So ... when you have all that road noise in your car AM radio is good enough if the station is close. When you want to walk around and listen to music AND don't have any cash, the ear buds are good enough. When your goal is to impress your peers, rumbling and shaking and blinking lights is good enough. And ... drum roll ... when you are at home the default CD player is good enough.
I noticed a problem back in the 90's when I started getting MSDN subscriptions on CD. There were all these technical articles on the CDs and I could go look at the old ones and find stuff to fix old programs that still used "outdated" technology.
Then, things improved and we could look up all that stuff on the web and I found that, now and then, the stuff on the web would change. The archives were "corrected" to put in the current spin to whatever bug the old article was talking about. Then the old articles started disappearing. (I suppose disk space just got too expensive to keep all that old stuff.)
If you keep the old articles on paper, they don't ever change. If you keep them on removable media like CD they don't ever change (but you might not be able to read them when you upgrade your hardware). If you expect someone else to keep them on the web, good luck. (Plus you don't ever know they changed unless you have a photographic memory. Mine's more of a paraplegic memory.)
I hadn't noticed that paper magazines were that useful after getting rained on or dropped in the tub (or wherever). A little water is ok but not a lot. Of course the replacement cost is higher with electronics.
Perhaps good(?) lawyers are easier to find than good developers.
That's it. We can be stupid faster than before or smart faster than before. It's our choice.
I think the Apple II may have had the first copy protected program. Visicalc came out late in 1979, as I remember. (A spreadsheet ... not a game.)
They doubled the sector numbers stored in the sector header on each track. A regular copy wouldn't be able to find the odd numbered sectors and failed.
The disk had to use a patched version of Apple DOS that did the sector number doubling when reading but wouldn't do that when saving or loading data files from another diskette.
When a friend that worked at a computer store called me and said you couldn't copy the Visicalc disk, the puzzle consumed me. (This is not a desirable character trait, trust me.) I borrowed his original and messed with it until I found the answer.
There was a program to copy Visicalc that even got an article in the Wall Street Journal around then. Front page of one of the back sections.
To be perfectly honest, Nigeria is a whole separate county and isn't really in any state at all.
Maybe we should call "small bribes" by a more familiar name: "tip"
How is this different from giving a waiter some extra cash for good service?
Say, where do you get a cell phone that allows you to talk for 15 hours without a recharge?