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a) by the time ReactOS is usable, there will be. Also, american law is enforcable overseas; cf AllOfMp3 closure and The Pirate Bay raids.
b) you're assuming that they'll be acting alone; they have novell's help on the Linux front, and slapping a Cease-And-Desist on ReactOS would be trivial.
c)the only thing useable in an antitrust suit would be the undocumented apis...which have nothing to do with ReactOS. Anything done in ReactOS can easily be found and studied via MSDN. a) thepiratebay and AllOfMP3 are up and running RIGHT now, it may have influence on political decisions(which Visa/Mastercard banning allofmp3 and thepiratebay raid both where), but its not enfoceable unless they hold the same law.
b) A Cease-and-Desist order is always trivial, all it is is an official statement saying stop or I'm gonna sue you. It's a form, that's it.
c) MSDN CAN be concidered insider knowledge and therefore not able to be used in reverse engineering of the software just as a leak in source code would be illegal to be used inside a clone software or even for studying the original.
Having said that....
Reverse-Engineering is protected under law so unless microsoft can prove they are using leaked NT source code the actual reversing is prefectly legal. The thing that scares me is the trivial things that I'm almost cirtain M$ has copyright on such as the [Start] Menu, they could have picked any other name then Start for it but kept it.
Since when does filtering have many differnt meanings?
Q. Is it song filtering software?
A. Define what you mean by filtering.
Q. What is filtering? Withdrawn.
Is it your testimony here under oath you do not know what the word "filtering" means?
A. The term has many different uses. I'm trying to -- How can you even think of saying such a stupid comment when you are an "expert" witness?
I didn't think Vista was all that bad, once I switched the desktop and start menu to Windows Classic, turned off UAC, and killed about 20 unneeded services.
So what you're saying is when you take out all the features that Microsoft bundled into it to make it seem "special" and "differnt from XP" it worked great for you. Hey i have a better idea, why not just use XP?
Given Microsoft's history of releasing operating systems at least six months before they are ready for market, I think I'm going to wait for now. I'll stick with XP/FreeBSD any day of the week over a new MS offering.
Exactly, unless you need to use Vista for work, ie testing software that is supposed to be run on Vista you should wait. Anyone that buys a Microsoft opperating system before the first update is a compleate idiot and deserves all the bugs he's plauged with because he didnt learn from previous expereiences.
I'm calling Bullshit. Its still there About 2/3 of the way down the page. People really need to do just a little research before comming to these assumptions. It just got bumbed off the main page on the hacked down main page because they cant fit all of the comments there.
Actually the DMCA reads like this:
(2) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that -
(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a technological measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under this title;
So there you have it. This is perfectly legal because AACS doesnt "effectively controls access."
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Infact that whole part of the law contradicts itself, if you have a technological measure that bipasses DRM, wouldnt that DRM not effectively control access to the work?
My meathod of choice to get arround filtering, and rather interesting, is to set up my home PC as a SOCKS5 proxy and rout all traffic through it, never once did I find a filter that did packet analysis to the point where it would block that(to much work to determine URLs for SOCKS proxies vs html body text maybe?). Of course you could always use someone else's proxy, but I always found that to be rather slow and not the uptime i wanted so i set up my own. People always find ways to be one step ahead of filtering, this is why it will never truly work, same idea holds true for DRM, you cant give limited access and expect people to just accept it.
I remember the $40/MB RAM!
If you have a box that uses RDRAM you're still >$1/MB, so it would take about $3000+ dollars for me to upgrade the box I am on right now to get "the Vista experience".
I beg to differ with your comment on prohibition not working. Durring Prohibition of alcohol in the United States deaths linked to alcohol where cut in half, as well as alcoholism cut by as much as 20%. It took nearly 50 years after prohibition to end for those rates to reach what they where at pre-prohibition.
The real problem with prohibition was not that it didnt work for average people, but it was that simply an absurd way of dealing with the problem, as most prohibitions are. Everyone has at least a little libertarian side to them that says "wtf?" every time something as absurd as an all out prohibition of thing's you've used carelessly goes into effect. The problem isnt really "is this going to work" it's, "is this anywhere near the right way of dealing with the problem?" And the answer to that is NO. If you want people to use less electricity, make the price higher, make tax incentives for people that use less then so many kWhs. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Prohibition is leading to water, if you want to make the horse drink its better to salt his oats, or for the sake of this metaphore, salting the oats is incentives.
I'll take a prop bet with anyone here that the black market of light bulbs in Australia after 2010 will be very profitable -- and very easy to maintain. Who the hell would go out of thier way to purchase black market light bulbs? Seriously, alcohol, drugs, they're all things that are addictable and make you feel better. Light bulbs on the other hand, not such things.
Can I call Bullshit on your source? You're looking to a blog for all your information on something you believe may cause the end of the world as we know it. Something that important I would think you would try to find someone who isnt just saying "What I Know Is...." Plus, we all know the real reason for global warming is lack of Pirates.
But something I found interesting that also may be used to support the solar radiation hypothesis is that at least three other planets in our solar system are also expereiecing "global warming." Mainly Mars and Pluto. Now that would likely mean one of two things, at least a large percentage of global warming has absolutly nothing to do with human impact, or the greenhouse gases we produce are also warming Pluto.
Besides, didn't Slashdot complain once that Apple didn't have a $500-$700 system available? Now that they do, people STILL complain. You just can't make anyone happy around here. I think what they where really saying, is for the Mac hardware the $1300 one should be about $500-700
You can't even configure that machine to be comparable to the iMac. To get in the same ballpark, you've got to jump up to an XPS 410, up the CPU to 2.13 GHz, add the 2007WFP and the Radeon 1300 Pro. Now you're at $1487, and you still have half the cache, a slower graphics card, no firewire, no wi-fi, no bluetooth, no webcam, and no remote. And it'll still take up much more space in your office! Where are you getting these numbers? The standard Mac Will run you about $1,200 for virtually this dell. The Dimension C521, yes the RAM is 533Mhz opposed to 667Mhz, but if i customize the Dell i can get it up to 4gig of RAM for still $10 less then the Mac. Plus i like the dual core 64-bit AMD processor over the Intel myself anyways.
Plus does anyone really like using Mac OSX in the first place besides it being an alternative to Windows? I've used Macs concistantly for at least 7 years now, since before OSX, way back when people knew what Apple II's where. And Mac always make me feel sandboxed, which is not a feeling a computer should ever have over you. That bundeled with the obsurd amount of memory usage through useless caching, the simplistic style mouse, and that I have never seen a Mac actually run smoother then any other computer, *nix, Windows, or otherwise has told me that they're not at all what thier cult following wants to believe.
I'm sure plenty of criminal masterminds already use PGP or GnuPG. Why would you use asymetric encryption for files? Asymetric encryption is best for end-point validation. You would use a symetric cypher like twofish, blowfish, SERPENT, AES, CAST5, ect.
Win2K had write-caching (lazy writes) on by default, consequently you needed to use the "Safely Remove" option to flush any open file buffers to disk.
Might I add that Mac OSX by default as well does write-caching on Mass Storage Devices which never made sense to me. But what made less sense was why to safely remove it you had to drag it to the trash bin. If Apple cant get these kinds of things right on thier OS, I would think it would be very hard to blame Microsoft for this. Basically its Apple being lazy just using default Windows settings for interfacing with the iPod, in Vista this happens to be write-caching for devices like the iPod. I'm sure its not a hard fix but with the anti-Vista push they might as well try to make something of it.
I'm sorry but I have never found OSX to be more stable then even my windows box, except of coure for the horrid Windows ME. I very rarely have ever seen a Windows or Linux system crash, and if they do it's usually because of driver errors, not largely the OS fault. However I have witnessed on many occasions an OSX box crash, infact I cannot think of a time at which i have been in the "Graphics and Multimedia Design Lab" at my college (aka The Mac Lab) and not seen at least one Mac crash, and for relativly trivial things too, playing a CD for example. I hate Windows as much as anyone here, the countless obsurdities are well obsurd, and it isnt as stable as it definatly should be, not to mention a $300 price tag that is going up with the release of Vista. But as much as i hate Windows I would never take Mac OSX over it.
Don't forget about banks, Diebold is the largest supplier of ATM machines.
Apparently, the government doesn't seem too bothered by a vendor who is selling a product which is completely insecure.
I have yet to see someone brag about rigging the election, even after 'DIY' videos where posted on the internet. This surprises me because I expected to hear people who didn't even vote pretend they 'hacked' the Diebold machines, you know the same kind of people that kiddy script then turn arround and yell something like: "0/V\F9 1'/V\ 4 1337 H4XX0R."
That is the teacher/student edition. if you are no longer a student you are not allowed to continue to use that software and must purchase a new license. read the EULA sometime. My roommate can buy windows XP and Photoshop cheap, but it is illegal for me to own a copy of that very same software. When you do "read the EULA" you'll see that family members of students are also allowed to have the product installed on thier machines granted the 'student' has access to the machine.
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Anyways about the Microsoft comic, the larger argument they where making is that pirated versions may contain trojans, virus', malware, ect. I find this to be a terrible approach, it's basically telling me "just be careful". It's almost condoning piracy. I would be more inclided to listen to something saying its illegal and they would hunt me down pillaging my house and raping my family like the Vikings before I would listen to this.
The fact that the song shareing is incredibly infested with DRM, ie you can only play it a cirtain number of times or hold it a cirtain abount of time, and yet the labels still believe it is a better idea for them to block this basically free advertisement is amazing.
2) *and* watch as people continue to buy iPods because when they buy something form iTunes they don't have to guess which of a handful of DRM policies dictates how they can use a particular song
iTunes has some pretty bad policies as well, the number of PCs limit and number of physical transfers limit. The fact that I pay for a decryption key and then am told how and when I can use it is a compleatly broken policy no matter who sells it to me.
Well... either that or it will turn out to be something made up by 6 Washington DC lawyers like it is. I have a newsweek article with excerpts from the leading scientists of the 1970s that said we're all going to freeze to death. The fact is that global warming was effectivly started by lawyers and polititians in the late 70s and early 80s, they where the only one's preaching it before the scientists came on board. Scientists started jumping on once they saw that ever one that did instantly became famous and praised as the savior of our time.
1998 happens to also be the year NASA went full tracking of the phenomena by satalites, which is much more accurate then ground sensors.
Later NASA released a press release(it was on cnn and i dont feel like grabbing it right now, search for it yourself if you feel you want to) saying that they had fixed the problem with thier satalites that had caused the skewed numbers.(Effectively skewing all thier readings the other way to get the expected results) Thier official reason was the satalites where actually recording upper atmospheric temperatures, and upper atmospheric temperatures had actually decreased durring this time. However for that to occur the sensors would have to both be picking up data for higher elevations which is theoredically impossible using infared scanning, and have tempatures skewed so that they had resembled the ground tempatures, the coincidence is near impossible. Science and politics have recently mergered, which creates a science of the politicians, one where it is hard to sepperate lies from truth and where everyone loses. Scientists and polititions are like V8 and whiskey, they are two things that should never be mixed.
The real problem is not the judges, its the politicians that are complaining, the judges are just upholding current laws. The current laws allow for the source code to be concidered a 'trade secret'. Its the politicans, including the ones that are complaining about this, that are at fault. Effectivly the judge's ruling was there isnt enough evidence to justify a search warrent, which is actually something that is giving me faith back in the judicial system because they are following the law insted of making new ones up. So complain, but hold people like Christine Jennings as at fault as anyone.
So if Sony executive Phil Harrison says you're paying arround $100-300 more for a system that will never be used to its full potential, why on earth would this make you want to buy it?
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b) you're assuming that they'll be acting alone; they have novell's help on the Linux front, and slapping a Cease-And-Desist on ReactOS would be trivial.
c)the only thing useable in an antitrust suit would be the undocumented apis...which have nothing to do with ReactOS. Anything done in ReactOS can easily be found and studied via MSDN. a) thepiratebay and AllOfMP3 are up and running RIGHT now, it may have influence on political decisions(which Visa/Mastercard banning allofmp3 and thepiratebay raid both where), but its not enfoceable unless they hold the same law.
b) A Cease-and-Desist order is always trivial, all it is is an official statement saying stop or I'm gonna sue you. It's a form, that's it.
c) MSDN CAN be concidered insider knowledge and therefore not able to be used in reverse engineering of the software just as a leak in source code would be illegal to be used inside a clone software or even for studying the original.
Having said that....
Reverse-Engineering is protected under law so unless microsoft can prove they are using leaked NT source code the actual reversing is prefectly legal. The thing that scares me is the trivial things that I'm almost cirtain M$ has copyright on such as the [Start] Menu, they could have picked any other name then Start for it but kept it.
Q. Is it song filtering software?
A. Define what you mean by filtering.
Q. What is filtering? Withdrawn.
Is it your testimony here under oath you do not know what the word "filtering" means?
A. The term has many different uses. I'm trying to -- How can you even think of saying such a stupid comment when you are an "expert" witness?
I didn't think Vista was all that bad, once I switched the desktop and start menu to Windows Classic, turned off UAC, and killed about 20 unneeded services.
So what you're saying is when you take out all the features that Microsoft bundled into it to make it seem "special" and "differnt from XP" it worked great for you. Hey i have a better idea, why not just use XP?
Given Microsoft's history of releasing operating systems at least six months before they are ready for market, I think I'm going to wait for now. I'll stick with XP/FreeBSD any day of the week over a new MS offering.
Exactly, unless you need to use Vista for work, ie testing software that is supposed to be run on Vista you should wait. Anyone that buys a Microsoft opperating system before the first update is a compleate idiot and deserves all the bugs he's plauged with because he didnt learn from previous expereiences.
I'm calling Bullshit. Its still there About 2/3 of the way down the page. People really need to do just a little research before comming to these assumptions. It just got bumbed off the main page on the hacked down main page because they cant fit all of the comments there.
So there you have it. This is perfectly legal because AACS doesnt "effectively controls access."
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Infact that whole part of the law contradicts itself, if you have a technological measure that bipasses DRM, wouldnt that DRM not effectively control access to the work?
My meathod of choice to get arround filtering, and rather interesting, is to set up my home PC as a SOCKS5 proxy and rout all traffic through it, never once did I find a filter that did packet analysis to the point where it would block that(to much work to determine URLs for SOCKS proxies vs html body text maybe?). Of course you could always use someone else's proxy, but I always found that to be rather slow and not the uptime i wanted so i set up my own. People always find ways to be one step ahead of filtering, this is why it will never truly work, same idea holds true for DRM, you cant give limited access and expect people to just accept it.
If you have a box that uses RDRAM you're still >$1/MB, so it would take about $3000+ dollars for me to upgrade the box I am on right now to get "the Vista experience".
I beg to differ with your comment on prohibition not working. Durring Prohibition of alcohol in the United States deaths linked to alcohol where cut in half, as well as alcoholism cut by as much as 20%. It took nearly 50 years after prohibition to end for those rates to reach what they where at pre-prohibition.
The real problem with prohibition was not that it didnt work for average people, but it was that simply an absurd way of dealing with the problem, as most prohibitions are. Everyone has at least a little libertarian side to them that says "wtf?" every time something as absurd as an all out prohibition of thing's you've used carelessly goes into effect. The problem isnt really "is this going to work" it's, "is this anywhere near the right way of dealing with the problem?" And the answer to that is NO. If you want people to use less electricity, make the price higher, make tax incentives for people that use less then so many kWhs. You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Prohibition is leading to water, if you want to make the horse drink its better to salt his oats, or for the sake of this metaphore, salting the oats is incentives.
I'll take a prop bet with anyone here that the black market of light bulbs in Australia after 2010 will be very profitable -- and very easy to maintain. Who the hell would go out of thier way to purchase black market light bulbs? Seriously, alcohol, drugs, they're all things that are addictable and make you feel better. Light bulbs on the other hand, not such things.
Can I call Bullshit on your source? You're looking to a blog for all your information on something you believe may cause the end of the world as we know it. Something that important I would think you would try to find someone who isnt just saying "What I Know Is...." Plus, we all know the real reason for global warming is lack of Pirates.
But something I found interesting that also may be used to support the solar radiation hypothesis is that at least three other planets in our solar system are also expereiecing "global warming." Mainly Mars and Pluto. Now that would likely mean one of two things, at least a large percentage of global warming has absolutly nothing to do with human impact, or the greenhouse gases we produce are also warming Pluto.
You can't even configure that machine to be comparable to the iMac. To get in the same ballpark, you've got to jump up to an XPS 410, up the CPU to 2.13 GHz, add the 2007WFP and the Radeon 1300 Pro. Now you're at $1487, and you still have half the cache, a slower graphics card, no firewire, no wi-fi, no bluetooth, no webcam, and no remote. And it'll still take up much more space in your office! Where are you getting these numbers? The standard Mac Will run you about $1,200 for virtually this dell. The Dimension C521, yes the RAM is 533Mhz opposed to 667Mhz, but if i customize the Dell i can get it up to 4gig of RAM for still $10 less then the Mac. Plus i like the dual core 64-bit AMD processor over the Intel myself anyways.
Plus does anyone really like using Mac OSX in the first place besides it being an alternative to Windows? I've used Macs concistantly for at least 7 years now, since before OSX, way back when people knew what Apple II's where. And Mac always make me feel sandboxed, which is not a feeling a computer should ever have over you. That bundeled with the obsurd amount of memory usage through useless caching, the simplistic style mouse, and that I have never seen a Mac actually run smoother then any other computer, *nix, Windows, or otherwise has told me that they're not at all what thier cult following wants to believe.
Might I add that Mac OSX by default as well does write-caching on Mass Storage Devices which never made sense to me. But what made less sense was why to safely remove it you had to drag it to the trash bin. If Apple cant get these kinds of things right on thier OS, I would think it would be very hard to blame Microsoft for this. Basically its Apple being lazy just using default Windows settings for interfacing with the iPod, in Vista this happens to be write-caching for devices like the iPod. I'm sure its not a hard fix but with the anti-Vista push they might as well try to make something of it.
...and OSX's (Stability, ease of use, etc).I'm sorry but I have never found OSX to be more stable then even my windows box, except of coure for the horrid Windows ME. I very rarely have ever seen a Windows or Linux system crash, and if they do it's usually because of driver errors, not largely the OS fault. However I have witnessed on many occasions an OSX box crash, infact I cannot think of a time at which i have been in the "Graphics and Multimedia Design Lab" at my college (aka The Mac Lab) and not seen at least one Mac crash, and for relativly trivial things too, playing a CD for example. I hate Windows as much as anyone here, the countless obsurdities are well obsurd, and it isnt as stable as it definatly should be, not to mention a $300 price tag that is going up with the release of Vista. But as much as i hate Windows I would never take Mac OSX over it.
Don't forget about banks, Diebold is the largest supplier of ATM machines.
Apparently, the government doesn't seem too bothered by a vendor who is selling a product which is completely insecure.I have yet to see someone brag about rigging the election, even after 'DIY' videos where posted on the internet. This surprises me because I expected to hear people who didn't even vote pretend they 'hacked' the Diebold machines, you know the same kind of people that kiddy script then turn arround and yell something like: "0/V\F9 1'/V\ 4 1337 H4XX0R."
http://money.cnn.com/2006/11/29/technology/persona ltech/zune/index.htm?postversion=2006112914
Zune is currently ranked second accross all sales since its launch, most of where you get your low amounts of Zune sales is the Amazon.com statistic, which when you look at amazon vs total MP3 player sales it is a very small amount of them.
2) *and* watch as people continue to buy iPods because when they buy something form iTunes they don't have to guess which of a handful of DRM policies dictates how they can use a particular song
iTunes has some pretty bad policies as well, the number of PCs limit and number of physical transfers limit. The fact that I pay for a decryption key and then am told how and when I can use it is a compleatly broken policy no matter who sells it to me.
Well... either that or it will turn out to be something made up by 6 Washington DC lawyers like it is. I have a newsweek article with excerpts from the leading scientists of the 1970s that said we're all going to freeze to death. The fact is that global warming was effectivly started by lawyers and polititians in the late 70s and early 80s, they where the only one's preaching it before the scientists came on board. Scientists started jumping on once they saw that ever one that did instantly became famous and praised as the savior of our time.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml= /opinion/2006/04/09/do0907.xml&sSheet=/news/2006/0 4/09/ixworld.html
- "that for the years 1998-2005 global average temperature did not increase, there was actually a slight decrease"
1998 happens to also be the year NASA went full tracking of the phenomena by satalites, which is much more accurate then ground sensors.
Later NASA released a press release(it was on cnn and i dont feel like grabbing it right now, search for it yourself if you feel you want to) saying that they had fixed the problem with thier satalites that had caused the skewed numbers.(Effectively skewing all thier readings the other way to get the expected results) Thier official reason was the satalites where actually recording upper atmospheric temperatures, and upper atmospheric temperatures had actually decreased durring this time. However for that to occur the sensors would have to both be picking up data for higher elevations which is theoredically impossible using infared scanning, and have tempatures skewed so that they had resembled the ground tempatures, the coincidence is near impossible. Science and politics have recently mergered, which creates a science of the politicians, one where it is hard to sepperate lies from truth and where everyone loses. Scientists and polititions are like V8 and whiskey, they are two things that should never be mixed.
The real problem is not the judges, its the politicians that are complaining, the judges are just upholding current laws. The current laws allow for the source code to be concidered a 'trade secret'. Its the politicans, including the ones that are complaining about this, that are at fault. Effectivly the judge's ruling was there isnt enough evidence to justify a search warrent, which is actually something that is giving me faith back in the judicial system because they are following the law insted of making new ones up. So complain, but hold people like Christine Jennings as at fault as anyone.
So if Sony executive Phil Harrison says you're paying arround $100-300 more for a system that will never be used to its full potential, why on earth would this make you want to buy it?