Admittedly, my example of copying a cd wasn't the best. I used that because the Sony rootkit debacle had sprung to mind. A better would have been:
"If your iPod dies and you decide to buy something else (I know, heresy, right?), the content distributors feel you should buy all the music that you've already purchased from iTunes again from somewhere else in a format that your new player supports. Imagine having to purchase all new dvd's every time you replaced your dvd player."
When I'm explaining, the first thing I do is correct the one thing may think they know about DRM.
DRM is not about piracy.
We have always been better at breaking things than making them, and DRM protections are no different. What DRM is about is maximizing profits. The cartel wants you to pay as many times as possible for the same product, so they want you to pay for every format you use. To them, when you rip a cd you bought to mp3 and play it on your DAP, you are cheating them since you didn't pay again for that right.
There is a law of diminishing returns on any software project as you add people. A project that might take 100 man hours for a single person will rarely take 50+50 man hours for two people...
I've been told that a surprising number of people buy a big-screen HDTV, watch the game, and return it the day after. People like them are the reason the rest of us get sacked with restocking fees.
Or get a sweet deal on a returned bigscreen right after the Super Bowl, like I did.
The other is that yes, the very existence of government leads to an immoral government over time, simply because it is a bureaucracy, and that's what bureaucracies do. They consolidate and preserve power.
And this is exactly why the forefathers included the 2nd Amendment. The explicit purpose of keeping "a well regulated militia" and preserving "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" was to keep the government in check with the threat of being overthrown by the people should the need arise. Thomas Jefferson estimated that this should probably happen about once every 20 years.
that all this is is minidisk versus digital compact cassette all over again. how many minidisk or DCC players do you own
God, I hope you are right. Every time I hear that "the way movies are meant to be played" ad I want to puke and/or punch someone in the face, because to the MAFIAA the way movies are meant to be PAID are per person, per viewing.
I swear if the dinosaurs were as resilient as them, they would still be the dominant species.
In a few years we will remember these discussions and smile...no new O/S comes out without problems...especially one that is rewritten from scratch and has fundamental changes like Vista.
Now I'll admit that I held the "Why go to XP when 2K does everything I need?" attitude for quite a while. But the arguments bashing XP back then never mentioned DRM that intentionally degraded the quality of or completely prevented the use of your own media, removal of hardware accelerated sound and EAX, and UAC to name a few. And did I say draconian DRM?
And as for "rewritten from scratch", you unfortunately are mistaken. For an example of biting the bullet and completely rewriting an OS that really needed it, google "Mac OS9 OSX". Vista has all the problems of a complete rewrite (app breakage, basic admin tasks completely changed) without the benefits (still insecure and inefficient).
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to apple.com and rub one out.
Hah, use it? Yes. Like it? Nooooo. Tolerate it like a drunk uncle grabbing your ass at a wedding.
Very well put (and I sure hope you're female, otherwise the uncle comparison gets really weird).
I just don't have time to play the anti-virus/rootkit/malware game, so my XP box (for games) never has and never will see the internet. I never got into online gaming due in large part to that. All my browsing, email, downloads, etc are done on my Powerbook.
And the more I read about Vista, the more it seems that XP will be that last Windows I ever buy. Hopefully in a couple of years when I'm buying my first Apple pc their gaming situation will have improved.
You can be the smartest person in the world but you will not be able to keep a job if you smell like 2 week old dead fish, and people feel you will at any one time snap.
DRM is the automatic enforcement of copyright (and then some).
Therefore DRM is also intrinsically distasteful.
QED.
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Mac OS X: the operating system named after pussies, used predominately by men who love dick.
1. Good point, the "and then some" is what makes most DRM solutions inherently evil.
2. Regarding the sig, you'll probably find some help understanding your hostility if you google "latent homosexuality"
The one thing the American founding father thought was odious about Monarchies - that mediocre men ruled the world because their great-great-great grandfather was a great man
Or their dad was the Director of the CIA and later President...
I read once that the greatest trick the devil ever performed was convincing people he didn't exist. Then I guess the greatest trick the US government ever performed was convincing people they are inept. I can (and do) use many derogative terms to describe the government, but inept certainly isn't one of them.
What's with the massive anti-HD sentiment regarding porn? What happened when you guys see a woman in real life? Do you go "EWWWWWWW! She's so hi-def! I can see her pores!"
But you are comparing RL to porn. Porn is all about fantasy, and most people want the fantasy to be as perfect as possible. Speaking for myself, when I'm with a woman it's more about the tactile than the visual. With porn, its all visual.
I think you are better off investing the $2500 in hookers.
With that kind of money, even I could get laid.
Think about it though. Someone else mentioned making your own RealDoll. What if it could make a life-like inanimate (has both good and bad points) object that will look exactly like anyone you can supply a picture of? Guys would be lining up (anonymously, of course) to buy two of these just in case the first one breaks.
As Dennis Miller said a few years ago, "The day virtual reality allows Joe Sixpack to fuck Claudia Shieffer for $19.95, it will make crack look like aspirin."
This is exactly why I have a Windows XP system with a virgin ethernet port for playing games, and an Apple PowerBook for email, surfing, downloading, etc.
I had no idea that the MS licensing department was actually an orifice.
That would explain the smell.
Very good points.
Admittedly, my example of copying a cd wasn't the best. I used that because the Sony rootkit debacle had sprung to mind. A better would have been:
"If your iPod dies and you decide to buy something else (I know, heresy, right?), the content distributors feel you should buy all the music that you've already purchased from iTunes again from somewhere else in a format that your new player supports. Imagine having to purchase all new dvd's every time you replaced your dvd player."
That explains the problem. Explain what DRM is.
When I'm explaining, the first thing I do is correct the one thing may think they know about DRM.
DRM is not about piracy.
We have always been better at breaking things than making them, and DRM protections are no different. What DRM is about is maximizing profits. The cartel wants you to pay as many times as possible for the same product, so they want you to pay for every format you use. To them, when you rip a cd you bought to mp3 and play it on your DAP, you are cheating them since you didn't pay again for that right.
There is a law of diminishing returns on any software project as you add people. A project that might take 100 man hours for a single person will rarely take 50+50 man hours for two people...
The was covered extremely well in The Mythical Man-Month. A very interesting read.
Nuh-uh. Not cool.
Funny? Eh. Insightful? Definitely. Wish I had the mod points...
I thought they just misspelled "quick & useless commentaries".
Hopefully once the novelty wears off, it will actually be used for its intended purpose, as I can see it being very useful.
I was thinking that I hope I see them coming, so they can get a picture of the "full moon".
E-Ink finally coming of age? I just finished reading the new Dan Simmons novel on my E-Ink Sony Reader, thank you very much.
Damn, dude, bragging about your Sony purchase on Slashdot?
What are you doing tomorrow, strutting through Harlem with you new Klan costume?
I've been told that a surprising number of people buy a big-screen HDTV, watch the game, and return it the day after. People like them are the reason the rest of us get sacked with restocking fees.
Or get a sweet deal on a returned bigscreen right after the Super Bowl, like I did.
I'd sell it to him like a microwave oven...
Make sure to put a sticker on it saying make sure the sponge is WET.
The other is that yes, the very existence of government leads to an immoral government over time, simply because it is a bureaucracy, and that's what bureaucracies do. They consolidate and preserve power.
And this is exactly why the forefathers included the 2nd Amendment. The explicit purpose of keeping "a well regulated militia" and preserving "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" was to keep the government in check with the threat of being overthrown by the people should the need arise. Thomas Jefferson estimated that this should probably happen about once every 20 years.
that all this is is minidisk versus digital compact cassette all over again. how many minidisk or DCC players do you own
God, I hope you are right. Every time I hear that "the way movies are meant to be played" ad I want to puke and/or punch someone in the face, because to the MAFIAA the way movies are meant to be PAID are per person, per viewing.
I swear if the dinosaurs were as resilient as them, they would still be the dominant species.
In a few years we will remember these discussions and smile...no new O/S comes out without problems...especially one that is rewritten from scratch and has fundamental changes like Vista.
Now I'll admit that I held the "Why go to XP when 2K does everything I need?" attitude for quite a while. But the arguments bashing XP back then never mentioned DRM that intentionally degraded the quality of or completely prevented the use of your own media, removal of hardware accelerated sound and EAX, and UAC to name a few. And did I say draconian DRM?
And as for "rewritten from scratch", you unfortunately are mistaken. For an example of biting the bullet and completely rewriting an OS that really needed it, google "Mac OS9 OSX". Vista has all the problems of a complete rewrite (app breakage, basic admin tasks completely changed) without the benefits (still insecure and inefficient).
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go to apple.com and rub one out.
Hah, use it? Yes. Like it? Nooooo. Tolerate it like a drunk uncle grabbing your ass at a wedding.
Very well put (and I sure hope you're female, otherwise the uncle comparison gets really weird).
I just don't have time to play the anti-virus/rootkit/malware game, so my XP box (for games) never has and never will see the internet. I never got into online gaming due in large part to that. All my browsing, email, downloads, etc are done on my Powerbook.
And the more I read about Vista, the more it seems that XP will be that last Windows I ever buy. Hopefully in a couple of years when I'm buying my first Apple pc their gaming situation will have improved.
I wanted to point out that you can search for torrents on Google as well, so why is IsoHunt being targeted?
You know, just in case you missed it the first 387 times it was pointed out here.
Disclaimer: This is irony. What is even funnier than how many times I read this comparison in the last half hour is how irrelevant it is.
You can be the smartest person in the world but you will not be able to keep a job if you smell like 2 week old dead fish, and people feel you will at any one time snap.
Damn! Now you tell me!
I work in corporate America dude, all my sexuality is required to be latent at all times.
I swear if I hadn't already posted on this thread, I'd mod that funny. Good one.
DRM is the automatic enforcement of copyright (and then some).
Therefore DRM is also intrinsically distasteful.
QED.
--
Mac OS X: the operating system named after pussies, used predominately by men who love dick.
1. Good point, the "and then some" is what makes most DRM solutions inherently evil.
2. Regarding the sig, you'll probably find some help understanding your hostility if you google "latent homosexuality"
The one thing the American founding father thought was odious about Monarchies - that mediocre men ruled the world because their great-great-great grandfather was a great man
Or their dad was the Director of the CIA and later President...
I read once that the greatest trick the devil ever performed was convincing people he didn't exist. Then I guess the greatest trick the US government ever performed was convincing people they are inept. I can (and do) use many derogative terms to describe the government, but inept certainly isn't one of them.
What's with the massive anti-HD sentiment regarding porn? What happened when you guys see a woman in real life? Do you go "EWWWWWWW! She's so hi-def! I can see her pores!"
But you are comparing RL to porn. Porn is all about fantasy, and most people want the fantasy to be as perfect as possible. Speaking for myself, when I'm with a woman it's more about the tactile than the visual. With porn, its all visual.
I think you are better off investing the $2500 in hookers.
With that kind of money, even I could get laid.
Think about it though. Someone else mentioned making your own RealDoll. What if it could make a life-like inanimate (has both good and bad points) object that will look exactly like anyone you can supply a picture of? Guys would be lining up (anonymously, of course) to buy two of these just in case the first one breaks.
As Dennis Miller said a few years ago, "The day virtual reality allows Joe Sixpack to fuck Claudia Shieffer for $19.95, it will make crack look like aspirin."
If the manufacturer's want one of these on every desktop, figure out how it will provide titillation (porn) to Joe User (and me too).
Worked for the internet, dvd players, VCR's, cable and satellite TV, etc, etc.
1. (immaterial)
2. add porn
3. profit!
This is exactly why I have a Windows XP system with a virgin ethernet port for playing games, and an Apple PowerBook for email, surfing, downloading, etc.
1. Truly sorry to hear about the wife
2. See this.