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Time Warner Cable Runs Out of HD DVRs

jalvear writes "According to TV NewsChannel 9 in Syracuse, NY, Time Warner Cable said that they have run out of HD digital video recorder (DVR) boxes. Apparently, there's a shortage of HD DVRs because the company that makes the boxes have been 'overwhelmed by requests for them.' Seems like almost everyone has bought an HDTV during the holidays and wants to watch the Super Bowl in HD format."

208 comments

  1. one ? by Meltir · · Score: 1

    My my....
    Nothing like a little monopoly that cant deliver a product...
    Oh wait, we already have those in other markets !

    But - in all honesty - once the others get the product out - they have the brains to license it, or the product is software, so there are (practicly) no costs of replicating it.

    Guess what consumers:
    they wont just increase production.
    They will add a minor feature, call it version 2.0, and charge you more for it.

    1. Re:one ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Uhh, you don't "buy" equipment from Time Warner, it's a flat fee included with the service. When you cancel the service, you give the stuff back.

    2. Re:one ? by Shads · · Score: 2, Informative

      What you expect people to know what they're talking about before they spew bs comments?

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    3. Re:one ? by ObsessiveMathsFreak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem here, is patents.

      The enitre HD scene is chock loaded with patent upon patent dealing with nearly every aspect of the hardware, software and content of the Cable/PVR/TV suite. It is impossible for competitors to emerge when the big companies involved are bristling with frivolous lawsuit ready patent portfolios.

      Without fear of patents, imagine the possibilities. There's probably two dozen people reading this story who could string together a company selling linux based PVRs. I've half toyed with the idea of setting up some kind of company making pimped out terabyte TiVo/PVR home servers streaming content wirelessly to Joe SixPack's TV. I'd sell it to him like a microwave oven, and I'd make it usable. Off the shelf parts, screw it together yourself. You could make 30 a month in your garage.

      But its a fantasy, and not only because I'm no real entrepreneur. For a start, thanks to the cable monopoly, I could never really get the PVR to "Just Work" with the cable signal. And that's before TiVo et al come pounding on my door with cease and desist orders.

      Imagine how real entrepreneurs must feel. There's honest to goodness market out there, waiting with its cash for a good product. People want it, you can make it, but you just can't sell it.

      But hey! Thats what patents are all about right? Stopping those greedy garage geeks dishonestly profiting from the tireless innovations of companies like Time Warner. Without patents, Time Warners CEOs would starve!

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    4. Re:one ? by drsquare · · Score: 1

      Without fear of patents, imagine the possibilities.
      Yeah, like no-one bothering to spend the money to invent things in the first place. Wouldn't the world be a better place then?
    5. Re:one ? by MyOtherUIDis3digits · · Score: 1

      I'd sell it to him like a microwave oven...

      Make sure to put a sticker on it saying make sure the sponge is WET.

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    6. Re:one ? by westlake · · Score: 1
      You could make 30 a month in your garage

      While in December Time-Warner signed on 11,000 HD subscribers in Raleigh, NC., in a market of 500,000.

  2. cabele companies by thebear05 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Wow cable companies doing a piss poor job of taking care of consumer needs. I'm Shocked

    1. Re:cabele companies by hjo3 · · Score: 1

      And running out of HD-DVRs is the least of it. My local (Pullman, WA) Time Warner cable service actually refuses to carry the FOX network. Seriously.

    2. Re:cabele companies by lostatredrock · · Score: 1

      What just Fox? For us Cox Cable in Rhode Island we don't get FOX or CBS, Verizon just got approval to do TV on their FIOS network in my area, their sample channel line ups include both those channel so I am hoping they are not as horrendous as Cox, I don't see how it's possible that they could be, but some companies just seem to have a way of rising to that challenge to provide the absolute shittiest service possible, here's hoping Verizon is not one of them.

    3. Re:cabele companies by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 1

      Fortunately in the DC area, the cable companies (cox and comcast depending on the area you are in) carry all the channels. Verizon also just entered the market with FIOS. I hate Verizon, but I hate comcast even more.. granted this is slightly off topic since I am talking from an internet standpoint. I get my TV through Directv. But you will find that regardless of whether its Cox, Verizon, or Comcast, they all provide horrible service, and hire the dumbest techs/sales people who do not seem to understand there own services.. I mean come on.. who the fuck includes G4TV with the damn sports package (verizon fios TV), if you want G4TV (granted, usually nothing on it, but still not the point), you have to spend the $30 to whatever amount for the sports package.

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    4. Re:cabele companies by Elm+Tree · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wow... You've done what I thought was impossible. You've made Canadian cable providers seem generous and fair.

    5. Re:cabele companies by Shads · · Score: 1

      Time warner rocks in NEOhio. I get fox and cbs and just about every other station I don't watch!

      For reference you might wanna google "verizon customer service" they have one of the worst records, so don't get your hopes up.

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    6. Re:cabele companies by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Wow...I'm actually shocked that so many cable providers around the country don't all seem to carry the local channels....the big 3, and Fox....??

      I was about to post that this shouldn't be any big deal, especially with regard to watching the Superbowl on HD...you shouldn't need a HD cable box if you have a HDTV with a tuner built into it...just plug it into cable and watch in HD, right? The local channels should be broadcast in HD in the clear on these stations (by law?)....

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    7. Re:cabele companies by Cylix · · Score: 1

      It is not likely they refuse to carry the programming.

      Chances are your local Fox affiliate has a retransmission agreement in place as opposed to a must carry agreement.

      The new trend is to offer retransmission in exchange for a bucket load or two of cash.

      They either don't have the funds, feel is too outrageous or otherwise don't want to take the heat for upping the cable bill. I don't know too many cable subs who would refuse to carry additional programming in the broadcast tier.

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    8. Re:cabele companies by Knightcrawler · · Score: 1

      Cable companies are required to carry and station within 50 or 70 miles of the local office (where ever you go an pay locally and pick up a new equipment). But it is not mandated at what quality standard they carry it in. Federal government has mandated that all stations broadcast their signal both in analog and digital, eventually everything will be broadcast in digital. But digital doesn't mean HDTV. HDTV uses 7-8 times as much bandwidth as regular broadcast channels so of course their not going to offer it for free with the regular package. If you have that many local stations that are broadcasting in HD just get an HD antenna.

    9. Re:cabele companies by Wdomburg · · Score: 1

      That hasn't been entirely true since 1994 when the FCC allowed stations to opt out of must-carry rules in favour of negotiated retransmission.

    10. Re:cabele companies by Buran · · Score: 1

      Tell me about it. I just got my bill jacked to over $80/mo just for TV service and at the same time, I lost CBS HD (I like CSI and Cold Case). They have also never carried ABC HD since I got my Series 3 box.

      I'm so sick of St. Louis not catching up and being left behind on everything. I'm moving to Florida this summer and I'm not sorry. (I was born and grew up here in STL, so that's saying a lot).

  3. Not a problem by Keeper · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes ... Oh, wait, you can't...

    1. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      RTFA. They have plenty of HD boxes.

    2. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why Congress mandated they make CableCards. Timeline is July 2007 when they can't offer the integrated boxes anymore. On the downside, that has already been pushed back and I expect it to keep getting pushed back until it's dead. Greed knows no bounds.

    3. Re:Not a problem by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 1

      Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes ... Oh, wait, you can't...
      Why not? I've seen friends that have Cox Cable and they don't need a digital cable box to receive the HD channels... at least not for the broadcast stuff from ABC/NBC/CBS... but what else is there to watch in HD? Discovery Channel? HDTV is the most overrated technology I've ever seen. It looks beautiful, but the content is still crap.
    4. Re:Not a problem by itlurksbeneath · · Score: 1

      I've got Discovery HD.. Still waiting for Sci-Fi HD, though. Can't wait to watch Mansquito in HD!

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    5. Re:Not a problem by thebdj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      DiscoveryHD (which is worth it), TNT-HD, ESPN HD, ESPN2 HD, Comcast SportsNet HD, INHD (which shows VS. NHL games), the OTA stuff (which living as far away from the transmitters as I do, it is a good thing to have cable). There is also Universal HD (I don't get it, but I know it exist.), HBO HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, Cinemax HD (I think), and HD On-Demand.

      There is tons of content, and it isn't all crap. If you watches Sports then ESPN and ESPN2 in HD are both well worth it. If you like the movie channels, then why not have HBO, Showtime, Starz, et. al. There is also a good share of content on Discovery HD that I enjoy watching.

      Apparently, the satellite companies are adding tons more HD channels, which is hopefully going to start driving Cable Companies to increase the numbers as well. So, do you not like HDTV because you think "the content is still crap", you haven't watched enough of it to know, or do you not like HDTV because you do not have it or cannot afford it? (BTW, if you think Discovery HD is crap, are you sure you belong with the nerds on slashdot?)

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    6. Re:Not a problem by CheSera · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is pleasantly untrue. If you have a TV with a QAM tuner, or any device with a QAM tuner, you would be able to pick up the HD signals for the local broadcasters just fine. Also, since we're talking about local broadcast here, you could go one step further and pick up an OTA and HD tuner and not have to have cable at all. Not to mention what has been already said, that you could still pick up a non-dvr hd box. So you can still get your hd without one of their boxes.

    7. Re:Not a problem by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Actually you can. In comcast land many of the HD OTA channels are tunable by any Decent HD-TV set. If your set can it's either really old, or one of the crappy ones without a ATSC/QAM tuner.

      The fun part is that if you get a A180 ATSC tuner card and install it under linux, you can not only tune the entire QAM constellation but you can also watch the on-demand feeds your neighbors are watching as they are unscrambled.

      We were watching someone that was in the neighborhood of the office that was getting some on demand porn and then some kids programming... I can also tune in every one of the digital Radio channels and the Program info stream has artist-songtitle in it.

      Too bad tv ATSC/QAM tuners are limited and cant be tuned like the linux cards can.

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    8. Re:Not a problem by aboyko · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes ... Oh, wait, you can't... Sure you can. Most cable companies don't encrypt the digital QAM feed for at least the local broadcast channels (and sometimes quite a few more channels), so a QAM tuner (built into many HD TVs, or available as an set top box or as a computer peripheral) will let you get HD content to do with as you will. I get something like 8 HD channels unencrypted. plus a few dozen SD digital channels, as a regular analog customer with no cable company-provided box.
    9. Re:Not a problem by maddskillz · · Score: 1

      The content is catching up.
      Pretty much any sport you watch is in HD. I know a lot of the slashdot crowd isn't in to sports, but for those of us who are, HD Football looks so much better.
      Almost any new show is in HD as well.
      I get the movie network in hd, and now we don't rent movies any more, because that looks better then DVD...it just means we have to wait a few months more to watch the movies.
      The only show that I would really like to see an HD version of is Deal or No Deal...maybe not though...HD really shows peoples flaws (watch the news for good examples). Maybe ignorance is bliss.

    10. Re:Not a problem by slugstone · · Score: 1

      (BTW, if you think Discovery HD is crap, are you sure you belong with the nerds on slashdot?)

      You have not been watching Mike Rowe?

    11. Re:Not a problem by Shads · · Score: 1

      You know, anyone I hear someone say they don't care for a product why does someone come along and say "you don't like [insert technology here] because you can't afford it." or roughly insinuate the same. It's a real nice backhanded argumentum ad hominem for when people really don't have much of a case to debate with the person but don't like what the person said. Cute.

      You can get HDTV for an extremely low cost these days, gone are the days when you couldn't buy anything with HD in the name unless you paid more than $5000. Some people just don't see the value in purchasing it... because largely, there isn't much content. One good channel doesn't validate dropping $100 let alone a thousand to most people -- sorry. Could I buy it? Sure. Just paid my new car off in 2 years. Would I care to waste my money on it at this point when I can wait 2 years, get a much higher quality set, and most likely 10-20x the amount of content? No thanks, I think-- you know, I'll invest some of that cash and maybe purchase a computer upgrade or two.

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    12. Re:Not a problem by gatzke · · Score: 1


      You are totally wrong.

      You can receive HD programming without a HD box.

      Typically, on regular cable a lot of channels will not be encrypted and all you need is a QAM tuner.

      Generally, the good stuff is encrypted, so all you can get is local and educational channels without a box. No espn or discovery...

    13. Re:Not a problem by thebdj · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You know, anyone I hear someone say they don't care for a product why does someone come along and say "you don't like [insert technology here] because you can't afford it." or roughly insinuate the same. It's a real nice backhanded argumentum ad hominem for when people really don't have much of a case to debate with the person but don't like what the person said. Cute. Because I can name a number of cases where this has been the case. You will find a number of people in this world who will berate things merely out of some degree of envy or jealousy. Are there people who do not want HD and could afford it? Yes, but he blatantly attacked a lack of content which is a terribly false assumption as I can list a fair number of HD channels.

      Why do you join in on the lack of content? I know a lot of adopters who are sports fans, and maybe the fact that there is a good deal of sporting content in HD has something to do with that. Most prime time shows are now shown in HDTV. Of the top 20 rated shows from 1/17 - 1/21 of this year, I know that 14 of them are in HD. We have at least one local newcast in the DC metro in HD. If you get premium movie channels, there is an HD version available for the main channel of each. HD On-Demand is offered here. PBS has HD content and so does Discovery channel. INHD has shown movies older than me that have been converted to HD and they look GOOD. I hate using this as a source, but it will have to do.

      One good channel doesn't validate dropping $100 let alone a thousand to most people -- sorry. Could I buy it? Sure. Just paid my new car off in 2 years. Would I care to waste my money on it at this point when I can wait 2 years, get a much higher quality set, and most likely 10-20x the amount of content? No thanks, I think-- you know, I'll invest some of that cash and maybe purchase a computer upgrade or two. I love your wait two years argument. You talk about spending money on computer upgrades, so you should know as well as anyone else that you can always wait for more features, for more power, or for lower prices, but at some point, you have to say it is time to invest. BTW, a lot of HDTV can be had for under $1000 if you know where to look. The price as actually gotten to the point where the difference between a regular definition set and an HD set is close enough to get some people to switch when their old TV blows up.

      If someone wants to argue against HDTV, can you please come up with a better argument then a lack of content?
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    14. Re:Not a problem by robathome · · Score: 1

      HBO HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, Cinemax HD

      You mean I can get 1980's "Midnight Madness", the cinematic master piece debut of one Mr. Michael J. Fox, in HD? All 23 times a week? Iron Eagle III? Bad 80's and 90's soft-core, too? The same "blockbuster" bombs over and over every night for a month, at a premium price? Tell me more! Ooo! Ooo! Miami Vice in HD! Omygodomygodomygodomygod... :faints:

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    15. Re:Not a problem by Shads · · Score: 1

      Lack of content IS the primary argument. I watch *ONE* channel of what is currently available that you listed or that I know of. That is NOT worth it.

      Personally, I think you're deluding yourself if you think Jealousy and Envy are the reason more than 1% debate anything and regardless, the way you used it is STILL ad hominem rather than making a valid point. Which you still haven't done in regards to the original poster.

      You are right there is a point you have to invest, the time for MOST PEOPLE isn't yet here. Of the ~10 stations that hold *SOME* interesting content for me, ONE is available in HD. If my tv broke, sure I'd upgrade, just because it would be silly to invest money in a technology that is going to be increasingly going away. For me 99.99% of the argument against HDTV comes down to value vs content. Right now there is next to no content I'm interested in... and even of the content that does exist, it's not like I can't watch it on my current TV, its just not quite as pretty.

      Upgrade of quality for something I watch ~4-8 hours a week + next to no content that interests me and 0 exclusive content = No reason to spend even $100 to upgrade.

      If my tv died, sure I'd upgrade at that point. In a couple years when all the channels I watch are available in HD and my dvd player is 3 years old, I'll probably upgrade my entire living room setup from tv->audio->playback... until then the content is the major lacking item that prevents me from bothering.

      Sorry, that you can't accept that not everyone is interested in sports, premium stations, or every nature channel.

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    16. Re:Not a problem by jayayeem · · Score: 1

      The important part is "without a box" you can't use your old cable box and see the "in the clear" QAM channels. You need the HD box or NO box to see the HD channels included with your basic cable subscription.

      I never knew about any of this until I bought an HD set to replace my old SD set. I was not planning on having any HD content, but when I plugged in my cable, there it was. Would not have seen it if I had a cable box in the way.

      As a side note, I do not allow the cable companies to put their box in my house. I already have enough remotes to deal with. I don't want theirs.

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    17. Re:Not a problem by orielbean · · Score: 1

      But for sports fans, the tech is amazing. I am not a big sports fan, yet I remember seeing my first HD broadcast of a Sox game in a bar, and I could see the individual rocks on the field. The resolution is noticeably amazing.

      However, I agree with you - unless the content is being recorded w/ HD cameras, like Discovery and the sports groups, it is a real waste. Yet, part of the point of sports broadcasts is to create the feeling that you are in a different section of the stadium or arena; HD really brings you a step closer to that experience, and is worth the added cost for programming that it brings.

      That being said, I have a HD projector and 76 inch widescreen, and I still don't care enough to get the HD box for another 10 bucks a month for sports alone. If there were alternate fans getting into other HD things than sports, then they could rip the market open.

    18. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Things might have changed since then, but when I last visited my folks I was excited by the prospect of seeing the Discovery Channel in HD. However, it turns out that the HD Discovery channel consists of entirely different programming from the regular Discovery Channel. No Mythbusters in HD (despite it being filmed widescreen). No Dirty Jobs in HD. Very few of the regular shows are shown in HD. It's mostly the one-off specials and documentaries (which is still kind of nice). It turns out that one of the main channels I was looking forward to watching in HD isn't what I was expecting. I'm not sure if National Geographic HD is the same way or not.

    19. Re:Not a problem by mzs · · Score: 1

      The fun part is that if you get a A180 ATSC tuner card and install it under linux, you can not only tune the entire QAM constellation but you can also watch the on-demand feeds your neighbors are watching as they are unscrambled.

      Two to three years ago I was able to do it with my TV QAM tuner. At first I thought it was some new kids channel. Then one time it paused and that threw me. Then later they started changing channels. Finally one night it was soft core porn and I figured it out. It was fun channel hopping. The channel would work for a few minutes then you would have to tune to another channel to find it again. After a while it stopped working.

    20. Re:Not a problem by jeaton · · Score: 4, Informative

      Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes ... Oh, wait, you can't...
      Sure there is: Cable cards.

    21. Re:Not a problem by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "If someone wants to argue against HDTV, can you please come up with a better argument then a lack of content?"

      I find this to be the case too in many cases. I'm not a sports fan, so, that writes off a lot of the HD out there. As mentioned above, the Discovery HD channel carries different content from the normal one...if I could watch Mythbusters, etc in HD, that would be cool.

      And frankly I have a good deal of disposable income, but, with the HDCP issues....resolutions going up quickly...what will play with what on the HD tv, I'm keeping away from it like I am HDDVD and Blu-Ray...till the mess sorts out. I love new tech toys, but, I also know now to test the water with both feet in most cases.

      That...and I simply refuse to pay more for HD content. I don't watch HBO or the pay channels, they never have anything on I like...movies are not in widescreen (although I imagine the HD ones are?)...and I'd rather rent DVD's....the good original shows like the Sopranos and the like come out.

      Now...if cable started offering all the channels I can get with extended basic analog, with no settop box required, with no extra fees than I pay now, I'd be interested. I have money to burn, but, that still doesn't keep me from wanting VALUE for my money...and I feel I pay enough now for what I have to watch and what interests me. I recently bought a projector that can do HD resolutions natively....and am working on building a mythtv box with and OTA card in it....thought it would be fun to experiment with...but that's about it. HDTV content and hardware is still in its infancy, and I don't wish to be caught up buying shit that will not work with the next layer of DRM they decide to put into it much like they have with the component connections that older sets have...and now will not work with newer players.

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    22. Re:Not a problem by workindev · · Score: 1
    23. Re:Not a problem by Vr6dub · · Score: 1

      haha...good luck!

    24. Re:Not a problem by jeaton · · Score: 1

      No luck necessary here. I have two cable cards (Comcast) in my TiVo Series3, and haven't had a single problem.

    25. Re:Not a problem by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Then they should upgrade their HD non-DVR boxes to allow end-user connection of Firewire hubs and drives and/or USB 2.0 hubs and drives to turn them into expandable DVR boxes. They're going to be running the same (mystro) software on all their boxes anyway soon enough.

      Meanwhile, I'll be recording the Firewire output of my SA 3250HD box on my Mac to get the new commercials in 1080i HD and 5.1 audio.

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    26. Re:Not a problem by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      HBO HD, Showtime HD, Starz HD, Cinemax HD
      You mean I can get 1980's "Midnight Madness", the cinematic master piece debut of one Mr. Michael J. Fox, in HD? All 23 times a week?
      Actually, no. Most programming is still upconverted and pillarboxed. Its usually only recent movie releases, new original series, and the occasional live sports that are actually in HD, and even that isn't true for all timeslots. And you can't get them in Spanish.

      Though lately even the ads on Showtime HD are being stretched to fill the 16:9 frame rather than being pillarboxed or mastered for HD.
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    27. Re:Not a problem by Syberghost · · Score: 1

      Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes ... Oh, wait, you can't...

      They probably have a surplus of the non-DVR HD boxes. They had HD for a long time before they got the DVRs, and a lot of folks returned the former to get the latter.

      I've got two of their DVRs myself, and a non-DVR HD box. But I didn't wait until the last minute.

    28. Re:Not a problem by powerlord · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sure you can. Cable-Cards into a TV of Series3 TiVo.

      Mine is working just fine without any need for an HD-DVR from TimeWarner.

      In fact, since they have a shortage, I feel altruistic for helping lower the demand for their crappy HD-DVRs. :)

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    29. Re:Not a problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As mentioned above, the Discovery HD channel carries different content from the normal one...if I could watch Mythbusters, etc in HD, that would be cool.

      Well, that's just Discovery's fault, since every Discovery Channel show (and almost all shows in the Discovery Channel networks group) are filmed in widescreen HD.

    30. Re:Not a problem by Buran · · Score: 1

      "Why do you join in on the lack of content?"

      You forget something important: what's worth it to one person may not be worth it to the next. I could get a lot of sports stuff in HD -- if I were a sports fan. I'm not. I'm a geek; I love documentaries. I'd love to have the History Channel in HD. I get CSI in HD. I get Cold Case in HD. I get Heroes in HD. I get PBS in HD. I get (some) Discovery in HD. But I don't get History in HD, SciFi in HD, etc.

      So there's a lot less "content" out there for me than there is for the football/baseball fan.

      Oh, yes, and the local cable company isn't carrying the HD station around here that will be showing the Super Bowl. It didn't carry it last year either even though it was a different station that carried it last year.

      They also jacked our bills at the same time they told us that local football fans would have to buy an antenna to watch the game. That's a $50 expenditure for most people who are paying a lot of money (I just got jacked to $80+/mo just for TV service) for the cable company to provide the signal so they don't have to fight with antennas, if they can even GET signal via an antenna!

      Fuck St. Louis. I'm looking forward so much to leaving this place. It's not just because of the cable service debacle but it's just one more inch on the virtual crap pile.

    31. Re:Not a problem by Keeper · · Score: 1

      I own an HDTV. I love HD programming. My cable company doesn't provide a way to access it unless you use one of their craptastic HD boxes. Hence my frustration.

    32. Re:Not a problem by Keeper · · Score: 1

      Broadcasting local HD networks via QAM isn't very useful if your local cable company changes the channel assignment on a regular basis.

    33. Re:Not a problem by badasscat · · Score: 1

      Lack of content IS the primary argument. I watch *ONE* channel of what is currently available that you listed or that I know of. That is NOT worth it.

      Let me get this straight. I just want to be clear, because your argument as it appears is a very strange one.

      Out of CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, UPN, WB, PBS, Discovery, Universal HD, ESPN, and TNT, there is *one* channel that you watch? Those are only the major networks offered on the free HD tier with my cable service. (There are other, more niche networks also on the free tier.) I can only guess that you're not a major TV watcher in general, because that list includes all of the major broadcast networks as well as the top-tier free cable nets even in standard definition.

      And that's not even counting HBO, Showtime or Starz, because you say you don't care about premiums.

      To say there's a lack of HD content at this point is ludicrous. Even the local news is in HD, at least where I am. All prime time non-reality programming on all the major nets is in HD. All major sports are in HD. Hell, people seem to love Battlestar Galactica here - it's in HD too.

      The "no content" argument is one people have been making since day one that HDTV was switched on. At some point, though, it's an argument that ceases to carry any weight, and that point has long since past. You may as well argue that there aren't any good films on DVD yet or that the PlayStation 2 doesn't have any good games. Welcome to like, five years ago.

      Sorry, that you can't accept that not everyone is interested in sports, premium stations, or every nature channel.

      Forgive my asking, but what exactly do you watch? Late-night infomercials? The Food Network? (Hey, guess what.) Spike TV?

      I'm not arguing against your choice to keep your current non-HD setup. That's your decision to make. But if you're going to publicly try to perpetuate this myth that there is "no content" in HD, people are gonna have to stand up and tell you how wrong you are, so your backward thinking doesn't infect anybody else. Probably 80% of all the TV that actually gets watched in this country (by total ratings) is now broadcast in HD, and there are only a few more major dominoes left to fall.

    34. Re:Not a problem by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      If someone wants to argue against HDTV, can you please come up with a better argument then a lack of content?

      Well, I have one.. I want to use my already DRM infested (even if it is weak) Windows Media Center to record/manage my HD content... apparently, at some point, for Vista only, there will be an ATI CableCARD adapter for it, and there will be some sort of DirectTV support... but then again, this has been promised since mid-late 2005...

      I like media center, but the same arguments apply to those in the MythTV camp as well...

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  4. No Wonder Wiis Are Sitting Unsold On Shelves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "Seems like almost everyone has bought an HDTV during the holidays"

    Last thing someone with a HDTV wants is 480p content. The barren 2007 release schedule probably is playing a role too.

    1. Re:No Wonder Wiis Are Sitting Unsold On Shelves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are you smoking, and where can I get some?

    2. Re:No Wonder Wiis Are Sitting Unsold On Shelves by HappySqurriel · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Coward Sony Fanboy Troll ...

      I never knew there was someone in the world who didn't understand what an exaggeration is. Here is some help for you:

      to magnify beyond the limits of truth; overstate; represent disproportionately: to exaggerate the difficulties of a situation.

      Very few people actually bought HDTVs over the Christmas period (maybe 1%-2% of all households in North America bought a HDTV). I once had a gay friend/coworker who said that he couldn't believe that I knew no gay people in my life away from work because practically everyone he knew was gay; the author of this article probably feels that everyone owns a HDTV because tech savy, wealthy, early adopter types tend to hang out together (even though they represent a small portion of the population.

      Last thing someone with a HDTV wants is 480p content.

      Funny thing, most of the people I know with HDTVs don't mind 480p content because it is digital; it looks nice and clean on their expensive TVs. People who own HDTVs have a problem with analogue signals which the Wii doesn't require you to use.

      The barren 2007 release schedule probably is playing a role too.

      Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros, Pokemon Battle Revolution, and Final Fantasy Christal Cronicles will all (likely) be good games; E3 and TGS are still yet to come with tons of developers now developing games for the Wii (after E3 2006 and the launch of the Wii no developer wants to miss out on the Wii).

      Oh yeah, and next time you find a Wii on the shelf ... buy it and sell it on eBay (they are often selling for more than the PS3)

    3. Re:No Wonder Wiis Are Sitting Unsold On Shelves by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Actually, 480p content looks great on a HDTV set. Still comes down to the quality of the transfer though but a good anamorphic transfer can make you not want to even bother with more upgrades.

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    4. Re:No Wonder Wiis Are Sitting Unsold On Shelves by Bassman59 · · Score: 1

      Actually, 480p content looks great on a HDTV set. Still comes down to the quality of the transfer though but a good anamorphic transfer can make you not want to even bother with more upgrades.

      It looks great on an HDTV set iff the user configures the set to properly display the old-skool NTSC content! I'm amazed at how often people simply don't notice that the image is stretched in the horizontal. It makes heads look squished. It's readily apparent when you're in a bar and they're showing a game on the big widescreen next to smaller 4:3-format monitors.

      It's really funny when they show letterboxed NTSC on the widescreen display. Whatta bunch of maroooooons ...

  5. Watch superbowl? by ForestGrump · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why! why for the love of HDTV?

    Just go download the commercials on your fav torrent site or youtube. Don't waste your life watching the filler.

    Grump

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    1. Re:Watch superbowl? by DingerX · · Score: 2, Funny

      Dude. It's all about the live experience. With an HD DVR, you can start the party, then have everyone sit down two hours after kickoff and watch the commercials without sports interruption. And yeah, you can also avoid the halftime show with "Hooray for Everything" (shudder), without missing the eventual nipple.

    2. Re:Watch superbowl? by Akoma+The+Immortal · · Score: 1

      If you think waiting to hours to see his nipple is well worth it, you have some deeper issues than watching HD-TV.

      Besides, for the first time, my wife gonna watch some football, just to see the halftime show. You should have seen her eyes when she eard the news! (Prince in HD!?!?! hummmmmm) It will be the best night of my life for sure. I am gonna get it that night, and not because those man will wear tights!

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    3. Re:Watch superbowl? by vassilios10 · · Score: 1

      Not funny. This has potential to be a good game.

  6. Is that real? by WinKing · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It might be, but I think most of these type of stories are created for publicity or an advertising stunt. Will like to read others comments.

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    1. Re:Is that real? by Aranykai · · Score: 1

      Right. Lack of supply generates hype and thus higher demand. Same thing the console(playstation, wii, 306 etc..) manufacturer's do. Nothing to see here, move along...

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    2. Re:Is that real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really. If you can't buy it, you can't own it.

      All it creates is a short-term spike in prices of Time Warner Cable DVRs on craigslist and ebay. Nobody else benefits from this.

    3. Re:Is that real? by LordSnooty · · Score: 1

      Surely the last thing a company sitting on a pile of hot products would do is tell its customer base that there's none left. How many people thinking of getting a box will now read this and think "forget it"?

    4. Re:Is that real? by westlake · · Score: 1
      It might be, but I think most of these type of stories are created for publicity or an advertising stunt. Will like to read others comments.

      It's the same story in Raleigh, NC. 11,000 orders for HD service since December 1st. In a market of 500,000.Time Warner rushes HD boxes

      The geek who thinks that HD is going nowhere had better look again. The train has left the station.

    5. Re:Is that real? by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Surely the last thing a company sitting on a pile of hot products would do is tell its customer base that there's none left.

            What, like Sony and the PS3 you mean?

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    6. Re:Is that real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must not be a math geek. 11,000/500,000 = 2.2% In other words SDTV owns 97.8% of the market. But to be optimistic it is a larger percentage than Linux market holds compared to Windows on the desktop. But if I know correctly these same people that ordered HDTV don't even know they need a new TV for it.

    7. Re:Is that real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      And you must be a retard.

      11,000/500,000 = 2.2% (at least you got that correct)

      "SDTV owns 97.8% of the market"

      Because, obviously, not a single person in a 500,000 person market thought to order HDTV before December 1. Strange, considering TFA says that the 11,000 was "nearly three times the number received in December and January a year ago". Even so, no one must ever order HDTV service between Feb 1 and Nov 30.

      I think I hear the short bus pulling up in front of your house ... better put your helmet on.

    8. Re:Is that real? by ukdmbfan · · Score: 0

      If this is anything like the Sky+ HD boxes released middle of last year in the UK however, there's a big difference.

      They'll hook you in by getting you to join their service and telling you they'll get an HD box out to you. Then they phone you up a few days later to inform you that there's currently a high demand for boxes, and they're delayed in getting one out to you, but if you sit tight you'll get one in a few weeks. By this point it's too late - even if legally you can still opt out of the contract, the psychology of the situation has done its part. You're unlikely to think "I can't be bothered with this now, I'm going to go through the process of cutting off the service" but rather just sit tight and wait it out.

      Any publicity is, after all, good publicity.

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    9. Re:Is that real? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use a municipal cable TV service and they took forever getting their HD DVRs in stock, although I believe their HD receiver units were instock...just the DVR version was delayed.

    10. Re:Is that real? by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      No, it's real. It's a major issue in Houston, and Austin TX. I'm willing to bet in other major cities as well. Being that I worked for Time Warner in Austin, we've always had shortages of the Scientific Atlanta 8000 and 8300 DVRs.

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    11. Re:Is that real? by dorianh49 · · Score: 1

      It might be real. I have Time Warner, and just a couple weeks ago took my HD Cable Box into the local Time Warner office to switch it out for an HD DVR Cable Box after my ReplayTV died. The lady there said they were on backorder with no ETA. I asked to be put on a waiting list, and she kind of looked at me funny, wondering if I was serious. I was, so she pulled out a Post-It for me to put my name. I asked if she also wanted any contact information, so she could inform me when they came in, and I got that look again. I ended up calling 1-866-TWCABLE and ordered one over the phone. A week later, a technician came in and installed a beat-up looking, huge-ass box that still had someone else's recorded programming inside. But it works! High definition without commercials. Even my wife is pleased.

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    12. Re:Is that real? by carterhawk001 · · Score: 1

      I got comcasts dual tuner hdtv dvr back when they first started offering the whole digital cable thing. My parents weren't so hip on technology and waited to long. they were lucky enough to get a single tuner hdtv tuner, and have been waiting for over a year for a dual tuner dvr that is never coming it seems.

    13. Re:Is that real? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      This is also RTP, quite possibly one of the top geeky places in the nation. It's not a good general indicator for the rest of the country.

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    14. Re:Is that real? by Penguinoflight · · Score: 1

      It's Real, but not unique. DirecTV has problems with shortages of their hd dvrs, and I'd guess DishNet does as well. Since HD standards were set a few years ago content providers have been complaining about how they are going to lose millions on the new equipment they need. Meanwhile, the manufacturers (sometimes the same company as the producers) are raking in the money on HD sets.

      Just wait until NTSC channels start going off the air, the electronics industry will really rake in then.

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  7. Debunking by robbiedo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A considerable amount of commentary concerning the format war between Blue Ray and HD-DVD is based on the notion that standard definition is "good enough," for most owners of HDTV's, thus neither format will achieve deep penetration in the short term. However, this run on HD-DVR shows a clear demand for HD content. Comcast offers rental for their HD-DVR for a modest price, and no contract, and customers are snapping these units up. ON DEMAND had HD movies that can be viewed at the customers leisure, much of this content is at no additional charge. It has been posited that the format war is irrelevant due to people downloading HD content over the intertubes; however, the cable companies may make this argument irrelevant with the ON DEMAND feature, and the growing HD content. People want HD content, but are not willing to get hosed in the process by greedy corporations trying to win an unnecessary format war.

    1. Re:Debunking by Xugumad · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't know what broadcast TV in the US is like, but here in the UK SD broadcast TV isn't even close to DVD quality, while the HD broadcast is generally around HD-DVD/BluRay quality, meaning there's a much bigger improvement visible.

    2. Re:Debunking by Professor_UNIX · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Comcast offers rental for their HD-DVR for a modest price, and no contract, and customers are snapping these units up. ON DEMAND had HD movies that can be viewed at the customers leisure, much of this content is at no additional charge.
      So, you're saying that HDTV is truly superior because people prefer it over standard TV when there is little to no cost premium over standard definition? How did you figure that out Einstein? Do you want the 16 ounce medium Coke for $3 or the jumbo 64 ounce tub of Coke for $3.25 at the theater? Apparently everyone likes the tub of Coke.

      I'm still not sold on HDTV because the sets are too damned expensive. If you're going to go with HDTV it only makes sense to get a plasma/LCD/DLP TV, but they're overpriced compared to the old CRT sets. Not to mention the size is confusing to people... a 37" LCD TV is smaller than my 32" CRT when watching 4:3 format content. I guess I could be a total tool and watch everything stretched out so everyone looks squat and fat, but that looks like crap.

    3. Re:Debunking by SinGunner · · Score: 1

      It's America. You need to say "MORE squat and fat".

    4. Re:Debunking by mobby_6kl · · Score: 1

      Also, another claim often made was that nobody actually has an HDTV, which, judging by demand of the DVRs, is not true. I don't think HDDVD+Bluray is going to outsell regular DVDs any time soon, but statements like "This format is dead because nobody has an HDTV to watch it on" are just FUD.

    5. Re:Debunking by robbiedo · · Score: 1

      ...I'm still not sold on HDTV because the sets are too damned expensive So you talk about topics you don't know jack about as a matter of course? My point is that there is interest in HD content, but price and predictability is an issue, and companies need to cooperate in order to effectively profit from this new market. The cable companies are providing a HD-DVR at a modest price, and customers are snapping them up, while Blue-Ray and HD-DVD are relatively stagnant.

    6. Re:Debunking by asc99c · · Score: 1

      Interesting comment because I've not found that to be true. Our standard analogue TV is not upto DVD standards of course, but Sky Digital / Freeview is really good - in theory it's a better resolution compared to DVD - PAL is 576 lines compared to only 480 on a DVD. I would say films on Sky movies are easily DVD quality - maybe I've just got a cheap DVD player.

      The US has a lower quality standard definition (NTSC) which is one reason why they are so far ahead of us in jumping to HD TV. My new 1080p TV should be arriving fairly soon, so I'll have to compare Sky to DVD on that.

    7. Re:Debunking by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      The best example of poor quality is watching one of those orange fireball explosions. Then the JPEG compression blocks are clearly visible.

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    8. Re:Debunking by Darundal · · Score: 1

      Uhh, how many of those people actually have HDTV's, however...?

    9. Re:Debunking by meme+lies · · Score: 1

      People want HD content, but are not willing to get hosed in the process by greedy corporations trying to win an unnecessary format war.

      What people REALLY want is for the DVD player they feel like they just bought last year (though it may have really been 2001) to play High Def movies on their fancy new TV. Obviously that is not going to happen, of course. So in the mean time they'll settle for what they have.

      Yes, Hi-Def TV's are starting to sell. But people are, in general, used to watching low-def content on their high-def screens. Many shows have made the switch, but there's still a hell of a lot of programming that hasn't. Not to mention re-runs of anything made before last year or so, which will never be Hi-Def. That includes movies; though they were shot on film and could be transferred to hi-def most stations will not have hi-def masters to run for a very long time.

      Sooner or later a Hi-Def disc player will be available that plays both formats and people will start to buy them. I have the feeling there won't be a rush on the devices as a brand new and must have item; rather it will be a gradual switch as those who were going to buy a new DVD player anyway will opt for the HD version.

    10. Re:Debunking by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Like the guy below you pointed out, how many people who have HD-DVRs actually have an HD TV? It's a valid question. There's probably quite a few people who opted for the HD-DVR because it gets better quality than the standard DVR, even with a regular TV. Maybe they got the HD receiver because all the stuff in standard res is overcompressed crap with tons of artifacts. Then again, maybe the HD stuff is too. I don't have HD tv, but the standard digital cable is often worse than the analog signal that runs beside it because of over compression.

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  8. uh, no... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Many people (including me) got an HD-DVR not because they have an HD TV set at home (I don't). The disk in those HD-DVRs are the largest ones (160 or 120GB) and they work just fine on standard definition TV sets. The disk space is the only reason why I and many others went with an HD-DVR. I was about to replace my other old Explorer 8000 with an 8300HD this weekend. I sure hope I will be able to get one.

    1. Re:uh, no... by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Is that really all the disk space you get? An HD-DVD movie can be 25 GB. The one they posted on Pirate bay last week was 19 GB I think. That's only 8 movies on 160 GB. Or maybe they just over compress everything they record. You'd be much better off getting a TV tuner and a 500 GB disk, and recording everything in standard definition at 12 Mb/S

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    2. Re:uh, no... by jratcliffe · · Score: 1

      On a storage basis, standard def runs about 1.5Gbytes/hr, and HD about 7Gbytes/hour.

  9. Re:Wow by robbiedo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Actually NFL footbal was revitalized for me by HD broadcast, and the large screen format. I had not watched football for years because it just was not very much fun to watch on a 32 inch fuzzy square picture. I bought a external HD antenna for my 52" HDTV, and was wowed by the over the air broadcasts for free, especially the NFL broadcasts. The technology that the networks are employing to exploit the format is just amazing. I was blown away by it, I bought an HD 720p projector about 6 weeks ago, and I am just stunned by HD on a 106 inch bright, high contrast, colorful HD wonder. I can't wait until I can afford a true 1080P projector.

  10. hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    is everyone but me ignorant? this says they are out of DVR boxes. DVR > but not = HD Box.

    Just because they are out of DVR's does not mean they dont have Non-DVR HD boxes.

    1. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by limecat4eva · · Score: 1

      They were out of regular HDTV boxes in NYC when I went to swap out my old cable box two weeks ago, or at least so they claimed. They gave me a hi-def DVR instead and informed me our first month together would be free. I figured they were just trying to make me come to depend on it, but who knows.

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    2. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time Warner no longer offers the standard HD decoder without DVR in the Houston Region. I am not sure about everybody else.

    3. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, in my market (Comcast not TW) the HD box is the same as the DVR box, so even if you just order a DVR box you also get the HD box (even if you don't have an HD TV, you just don't pay for HD content), likewise, if you order an HD box you get the DVR box. They are all the motorola DCT6412 (dual tuner's) or DCT6208 (signal tuner's). So it is possible that so many people ordered the HD boxes and now they are out of DVR boxes since they are all the same thing. Not to mention Verizon FIOS who is using the exact same box with just software changes.

    4. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by aesiamun · · Score: 1

      In Time Warner Rochester, HDBox = HD DVR. We have no non-dvr HD boxes.

      TWC get $10 a pop with the HDDVR, they aren't going to lose that by offering a $5 box and not get the ability to do interactive upsells like onDemand.

    5. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they are out of regular HD boxes as well. After the Adelphia buyout here in Buffalo, I switched to Time Warners Basic Digital package, because, well.. it actually cost less than what we were paying for just standard cable before. The standard Digital package comes with a handful of free HD channels, which I would love because I actually do have an HDTV. I have no interest in paying more for DVR. I can do that with my computer. They have put me on a waiting list for a regular HD box, and I am sure I will be the last to get one because I have no interest in paying for any extra HD Tiers. I just want to get what they have already promised me.

    6. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Orange+Crush · · Score: 1

      TWC get $10 a pop with the HDDVR, they aren't going to lose that by offering a $5 box and not get the ability to do interactive upsells like onDemand.

      The box doesn't need to be a DVR to do On Demand. My SD set top box isn't a DVR but can pause/ff/rew on-demand movies, just not regular TV. (I presume it's streaming video from the cable company so it doesn't need a hard drive)

    7. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, they're out of the basic HD turner boxes too. I just bought an HD TV this weekend. I talked to them a week ago and again yesterday. They said that the best they could do for me was put me on a waiting list. They had no clue when they'd get more turners or DVRs in stock.

    8. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      One of the big reasons I've seen for HD-DVRs to sell out so quickly is because, for most of TWC's inventory, it's the only box widely available with an HDMI connection. At our TWC office, we offer several different varieties of plain HD boxes, but most people are sold by their local Best Buy/Fry's/Circuit City that if they want the best, they have to have HDMI. At our local office, we offer one regular HD box with an HDMI port on it. Those things were gone within the first 3 hours of getting our shipment in. So all we've been left with, and all we can give our customers requesting HDMI, is an HD-DVR. This is in addition to the other reasons listed above. And for those of you wondering why we don't just get more, TWC really hates HDMI, as it's a buggy connection that isn't 100% reliable due to HDCP (the DRM for DVI/HDMI connections). While component connections will get you a very high quality picture, people want the best at any price. Now of course, most of this discussion goes away when CableCard ver 2.0 comes out and everyone buys their own cable box, but in the meantime, live with it.

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    9. Re:hddvr, not hd boxes, are out. by Buran · · Score: 1

      "Now of course, most of this discussion goes away when CableCard ver 2.0 comes out and everyone buys their own cable box"

      My TiVo Series 3 with two CableCards says you don't need v2.0 to receive HD channels with your own thirdparty box.

  11. Halftime Wardrobe Malfunctions by syntap · · Score: 1

    I guess people want them in hi-def this year.

  12. HDTV still too expensive by novus+ordo · · Score: 1
    They priced HDTVs under their market price:

    The fiercely competitive pricing came at a cost. Best Buy and Circuit City, the nation's two largest electronics retailers, both missed analyst expectations in their third-quarter earnings, reported in mid-December. Circuit City posted a sharp loss for the three months ending in November, which the retailer blamed on low HDTV pricing. Even so, the retailer said it had no plans to back off as it tried to gain market share.
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    1. Re:HDTV still too expensive by slide-rule · · Score: 1

      Well, then, boo-hoo to the retailers (and manufacturers?), but they're still too expensive for many people. I make above-median income in a median cost-of-living area, and I can't see paying four figures on a tv just to pay three figures for digital cable (etc) service ... notably when I'm still *more* than happy with a three figure tv and two figure analog cable service.

    2. Re:HDTV still too expensive by novus+ordo · · Score: 1
      You're not alone:

      HDTV Ownership
      Annual Househole Income who Have an HDTV
      Under $30,000 - 6 percent
      $30,000 - $50,000 - 8 percent
      $50,000 - $75,000 - 17 percent
      $75,000 - $100,000 - 25 percent
      Over $100,000 - 38 percent
      But besides price, there are many other problems with HD such as bandwidth, storage and drm. Reminds me of laserdisks--great toys for the affluent but not much advantage over VHS.
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  13. It IS North Carolina TW, mind you by gelfling · · Score: 1

    So it's a toss up between craven theft and indifference, and their general inability to figure out what the fuck they are doing on any given day. As a TW customer in NC I can attest that there are two divisions inside TW that fight neck and neck for supremacy in the company. One is the We Don't Give a Shit division and the other is the We Don't Have a Fucking Clue division.

    1. Re:It IS North Carolina TW, mind you by bleh-of-the-huns · · Score: 1

      Just like verizon.. they must use the same management training seminars..

      I hate ALL cable companies, I have had to deal with 3 in my 10 years in the DC area, Adelphia, TW (I actually worked at Roadrunner for a short while) and Comcast.. I despise them all, I also hate verizon, but I hate them slightly less then I hate the cable companies. I am happy with my SDTV directv, customer service is good, and I like my directivo :) The fact that they no longer use said boxes is dissapointing. Whats even more dissapointing is that the cable companies (and verizon FIOS TV is adamant about it) refuse to enable the ports on there set top boxes, which means I have to use the slow and unreliable IR blaster to use my stand alone tivo (I have 3 tivos, 2 directv and 1 stand alone). This is not acceptable. Atleast with FIOS TV, they support cable card (although you have to argue with them for hours to get them to agree to send the cards to you), for $3 or $4 a month per card, which will work with the overpriced series 3 tivo. Essentially what the cable companies provide in a set top box, HD or non HD, are total crap, gimped crap at that, and you dont have any options as of yet to force them to comply with customer needs.

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  14. Just got one by Prospero424 · · Score: 1

    Wow, I just picked up one of these last week for a relative who got an Aquos 43". Glad I got it when I did. I wondered when the area Time Warner storefront said they were completely sold out of HDMI cables, the demand for which they said the manufacturer couldn't keep up with, either. Reason? They were selling decent 8' HDMI cables for $19.95. Not bad considering Radio Shack and Best Buy and Circuit City and ALL of them don't carry any for less than $60. Friggin price fixers. The problem is that the picture quality on TW (compared to other HD sources) looks like ARSE. Their system just doesn't have the bandwidth per channel necessary. But their cable modem service has been spectacular; at least here in Houston.

    1. Re:Just got one by bockelboy · · Score: 1

      They were selling decent 8' HDMI cables for $19.95. Not bad considering Radio Shack and Best Buy and Circuit City and ALL of them don't carry any for less than $60.

      What do you mean, decent HDMI cables? They're a digital cable, there's no data loss until the cable degrades enough that all the data is lost. That's what error-correcting codes are for.

      That's what I hate most about cord manufacturers. The cost of a DVI cable seems to have gone UP because they now can be used for TVs. The worst, lowest quality cord carrying a digital signal, after error-correction will produce, bit for bit, the same video signal as the highest-quality cord. Either that, or it won't connect at all.

      Unlike analog cords consumers are used to, there is no low, middle, and high quality. There is either working or not-working.

      And, if that wasn't true, we'd all be using a gold-plated Monster cable for our RAID boxes.
    2. Re:Just got one by fishbowl · · Score: 1


      >What do you mean, decent HDMI cables?

      Solid enough insulation that they cannot be chewed through by cats or (other) rodents.

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    3. Re:Just got one by Prospero424 · · Score: 1

      Hey, you're preaching to the choir, here. That's why I wanted one so bad.

    4. Re:Just got one by dorianh49 · · Score: 1

      Check out monoprice.com for HDMI cables. For $20, you might be able to get 2 or 3 of 'em, so if your cat chews on one, you'll have a backup with which to hit the cat.

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  15. DVR/HD Box by Nerdfest · · Score: 1

    It doesn't sound like people want to watch football. If they company is having a shortage of HD PVRs, it's because the people with HD sets want to record their shows in HD, or skip commercials. If you just want to watch HD source material, just get an HD cable box. It sounds like they have those available.

  16. do NOT get a direct-tv box, though! by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    the box TO AVOID is the infamous hr20.

    its a truly crappy piece of engineering (often called a POS or POC on the dbstalk forums...).

    I had one for 2-3 days. cancelled my DTV service when that box lost 2 shows in 2 days! come on - go back to tivo - at least they know how to make embedded software for dvrs.

    but noooooo! directtv had to go it on their own. they outsourced the development (I suspect) or even worse, they did it in-house and had insufficient talent to really pull it off. its been in 'debug mode' (poor users!) for the last 3 or 4 months now. sigh...

    one more tidbit that people SHOULD know. I had recorded some shows on my hd-dvr from directv that I didn't get a chance to watch yet. in the 2 or 3 days that I had it, a few shows did save (but a few got 'keep or delete' bugged!) to disk. now, I was on the phone with the CSR rep telling them about how bad this box was and how I wanted to cancel and revert back to my SD programming and directivo box - the csr rep asked if he should just go ahead and send the disconnect signal to the receiver. I said 'sure'.

    guess what happened? you can guess, I think - the saved shows were now ALL YOUR SHOWS ARE BELONG TO THEM! really. the shows that I had not watched but did record were not locked up tight and unless I repaid the bill (or some other tech issue like the sat dish couldn't get signal and couldn't authenticate) then your shows - even hundreds of hours of saved data - are all hidden and made unplayable!

    un-be-fucking-lievable!

    the csr rep acted surprised. of course he KNEW that your data goes bye-bye if they remotely disconnect you.

    people should be aware of this! suppose you spend a year or two saving music concerts you like on your tivo-like box and then find that some tech issue (or maybe your dish fell over in the wind and its another week before they can come out and install again) has disabled your content!

    that really pushed me over the edge. so many bugs in their design and implementation and to top it all off - they lock up your data if things aren't 'to their liking'.

    never on my SD tivo box (dual tuner direct-tivo) would they be able to remotely disable the ability to view shows I already saved!

    they should seriously be sued over this. no consumer is prepared (I bet) to accept this as a TOS. its in the fine print, I think; but when the shit hits the fan and enough wives lose their 'american idol' (grin) shows - there will maybe be a revolt against this really low-down practice.

    the more I look at how HD is being rolled out (all the protection and dumbing down of equipment if hdmi isn't 'happy') - the more I want to just AVOID the whole mess.

    in the time being, to get my 'content fix' I have joined netflix. I did buy a nice lcd HD tv a few months ago and its hungry for content that is better than off the air satellite or cable (both of which are VERY compressed and look ugly on an HD set). the good news is that dvd's will see a new come-back, I think! the poor quality of SD signal forces people with HD sets to look for cleaner more watchable content. and dvd's do look GREAT on the HD sets.

    so for now, until the cable and sat companies get their HD act together, my new set will be netflixing ;) thank god that dvd's have no more protection in them and I can rip to disc and view that way on my linux based HTPC..

    at any rate, DO realize that the sat companies want you to sign a 2yr contract if you go HD with them. don't do it! just say no! else, well, all YOUR bits are going to belong to them...

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    1. Re:do NOT get a direct-tv box, though! by Monoman · · Score: 1

      I think I am coming to the same conclusion as you. We just got a HD set a few months ago and I fear making the complete switch to HD. We have DirecTV and we have been very happy with it compared to the cable option (Adelphia).

      We have had Tivo for years and love them. Currently we have a various Tivos and can only use them for non-HD content. The only HD content we watch is the free over-the-air stuff. We watch it sometimes and sitting through commercials is very weird to us. :-)

      So now I am looking at our DVR options and it is scary. The only DirecTV option is definitely a downgrade if not a total disaster from what I am reading online. A Series3 Tivo is not an option with DirecTV because it uses CableCard and DirecTV doesn't. The other choice is to go with Adelphia cable (now Comcast) but their customer service and picture quality is horrible.

      So at this point, we canceled HBO to cover the cost of getting Netflix and are sticking with the Tivo. We are also going to get an Oppo upconverting DVD player for watching the DVD and other stuff.

      What a horrible state this industry is in right now. The cable and satellite companies should have been licensing Tivo and Replay tech years ago but I guess they were all greedy and couldn't make a deal. So now the consumer is the one who loses.

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    2. Re:do NOT get a direct-tv box, though! by MyNameIsEarl · · Score: 1

      Oh come on the HR20 isn't THAT bad.

      Ok, actually it really is, I can't believe I am stuck with this piece of shit for 18 more months. Go read DBSTalk for the glowing reviews of both the Directv and Dish HD DVRs.

  17. salt on the wound by wishiwascool · · Score: 1

    Not only are they out of boxes, but in my area atleast (RDU, NC) they sent out a firmware upgrade the other day and it fried my box. Called tech and they even admitted this was a problem.

    so, we're out of boxes AND we're frying them with updates... awesome service.

    where the hell is my FTTH service so I can kick TW to the curb????

  18. I hope they're not Scientific Atlanta boxes! by Antifuse · · Score: 1

    If so, there's a ton of consumers out there that are going to be very frustrated. I've never dealt with a shoddier product than the Scientific Atlanta PVR that I had through Rogers Cable a couple years ago. It was a HUGE pain in the ass to use.

  19. Charter by delahappy · · Score: 1

    Charter has a waiting list for HD DVRs and it's a long one. They are also in a dispute with CBS over the HD broadcast so we get no HD Superbowl.... I hate Charter.

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    1. Re:Charter by xlr8ed · · Score: 1

      Last I heard, the waiting list was 9 months.

    2. Re:Charter by delahappy · · Score: 1

      When I asked they said 1 year. That is in the St. Louis area.

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    3. Re:Charter by abtusa1234 · · Score: 1

      I am in the same boat with these morons. The dispute is with Belo Corporation who distribute NBC HD in this market; they pulled the signal without warning in early January. I called Charter and had to explain to the clueless rep what was going on as he didn't know. Also sent a pissy email to Charter customer service (ha) and got the usual corporate speak in return. The kicker though, is yesterday WCNC (local NBC affiliate, and Belo company) carry the same story... but with nooooo mention of the fact that they are screwing charter customers. Unbelievable. So I'm paying monthly for HD service, and I've got a $20 indoor antenna next to my $2000 tv. Brilliant.

    4. Re:Charter by Isca · · Score: 1

      At least Charter is actually fighting over escalating costs. Charter has looooaaads of problems, and I'm not defending them for any of their other issues, but on this one, they are the good guys. The local channels are trying to instill fees that make you have to pay extra to have their HD content over cable - it's as simple as that. Sure, the cable company is making money off of you, but they are not making money off the local channels that they can't sell ads on, and that they are required by regulation to have a basic only tier (in many communities). They don't make money on these, not like they do on their other channels. What's happening is that changes in regulations have made it possible for TV stations to demand payment to rebroadcast the signals that are broadcast for free. These fees are another entry to charging us more. Once the fees start, and broadcast TV has another revenue stream based on those fees, you can bank on the fact that every year or two when the contracts renew, they will go up. This is why your cable bill goes up every year - "must carry" stations, like ESPN & CNN, go to the cable companies and say "Next year, we want to charge you 1.25 more per subscriber, plus you now have to carry ESPN Bullfighters network, or we will charge you 4.50 more per subscriber" The cable company either has to do what they ask, or risk having tons of subscribers drop and go to another system, like satelite. Now, some people might say "why don't we just go ala carte?" well, in that case, we'd have to pay $10 for ESPN, plus and extra $4 for the ESPN package, plus another $8 for CNN/Headline, plus $4 for Sci-Fi, plus $9 for Nickelodean for the kids - pretty soon your at the normal extended cable price, with half the channels. The cable networks have alot of leverage here.

    5. Re:Charter by Buran · · Score: 1

      Don't you just love how they jacked our bills at the same time? I lost CSI and Cold Case in HD, and NEVER have been able to watch Star Trek in HD (remastered TOS) ... until I blew $50 on an antenna for my Series 3 TiVo. ON TOP OF being charged over $80/month.

      I'm leaving this place this summer and not looking back except to visit family, and then only staying as long as I have to.

      Thank $deity I'm missing the I-64/Highway 40 hellhole.

  20. Here's a way around the shortage by 4minus0 · · Score: 1

    My local cable carrier can't spell HDTV (or Internet for that matter). I went with DirecTV for a couple other reasons but I haven't even subscribed to their HDTV offerings yet. One reason is they were having HD DVR shortages for a while last year.

    Follow this thread at Lumenlab and build your own HD antenna! I live ~45 miles as the crow flies from the nearest transmitter. With an antenna I built based on some of the ideas there I can receive 3 HD channels out of 4 possible offerings. I can pick up FOX, NBC and CBS. I built the antenna with stuff I had lying around. I used 2x4s, coat hangers and fencing. Free HD.

    And before anyone asks, yes it's ugly. I stuck mine in the attic to hide it. I might be able to put it on a mast and pick up the 4th channel which is ABC but my wife and neighbors would frown.

    I live in a fairly mountainous area of the US so I was pleasantly surprised to pick up 3 of 4 channels. Give it a shot this weekend and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Cable and DirecTV's over compressed offerings can't come close to the visual quality of an OTA signal.

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    1. Re:Here's a way around the shortage by greenrom · · Score: 1
      I haven't even subscribed to their HDTV offerings yet.
      ...
      DirecTV's over compressed offerings can't come close to the visual quality of an OTA signal.

      So what are you basing this on? Wishful thinking?

    2. Re:Here's a way around the shortage by rotor · · Score: 1

      Or, for an internal antenna (which might not work at your distance), use a simple UHF antenna. Works great for me.

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    3. Re:Here's a way around the shortage by 4minus0 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I didn't elaborate.

      My father has DirecTV HD and an OTA antenna.
      HD OTA looks better with a side by side comparison of flipping between DirecTV and his antenna on the same channel.
      DirecTV HD is compressed douche, look it up.

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  21. Still had them on the 10th by crosstalk · · Score: 1

    Well they still had them on the 10th(as I just got one from TW on the 10th), and they can still get the regular HD boxes right?

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  22. TV antenna by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    So many people dont seem to know how good digital broadcast TV is. By law almost all the HDTVs sold nowadays have tuners built in. All they need is a cheapo antenna and they pull stunning pictures off the air. Where I live I cant get a single analog TV off the air. I just live 10 miles from the transmitters, but this place is full of hills and valleys. But with a cheapo antenna from Walmart I am getting 11 digital stations, one from some 80 miles away! I get CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox, PBS, WB and one evangelical station. Some stations broadcast the same content in multiple formats (480i 4:3 and 780p 16:9 for example) accounting for the extra stations.

    My DVR+DVD recorder (panasonic, very good one) cant handle HD content. My only peeve.

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  23. UK Shortage by Colourspace · · Score: 1

    When I ordered Sky HD here last summer I had to wait a month for an install. According to the person I ordered it off (I was already sold on it anyway) response had been strong and not tailed off, and there was a shortaqge of the recordable HD receiver boxes. I initially had some qualms as I really bought the TV for HD gaming but I think it is worth it. Hopefully more content to follow soon, but I also work with a lot of broadcast equipment companies and the demand for HD technology is really snowballing so I'm fairly sure this will go much more mainstream over the next year.

  24. I wouldn't blame the cale company by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked for Comcast for over two years. Running out of DVR boxes was fairly common. Motorola who provides the boxes wouldn't keep up with the demand. Is the cable company at fault if they run out of equipment because they're using it to fill their customers' needs?

    Don't get me wrong, there are lots of reasons I don't like Comcast, but this isn't one of them.

  25. Considering many early HDTVs have no tuner by Shivetya · · Score: 1

    this is the only option short of buying a new set many users have. Over the air ? How many people do you know who actually do that and have HDTVs? I can't recall the last time I saw one let alone met anyone using over the air TV.

    The Satellite service I have offers a DVR with HD Ability for a rate far cheaper than anything I can get from TIVO and if it breaks they will replace it. Also, since my TV isn't capable of receiving/interpeting HD on its own this single device covers both my needs (that and it can service another TV in my house via a RF remote is great too)

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    1. Re:Considering many early HDTVs have no tuner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy a tuner box that supports unencrypted QAM as well as ATSC. That's what I did.

    2. Re:Considering many early HDTVs have no tuner by necrognome · · Score: 1

      I have a 32" LCD HDTV and no cable (TimeWarner loves charging commercial prices for lofts). We are working on a satellite solution. I use rabbit ears, which provide perfect reception for HDTV channels (you know, that whole digital, error-correction, thing). My average signal quality (measure by the Sony Bravia's builtin "stats" app) is 95%. So, maybe every couple of hours or so, a frame gets skipped/discombulated. If I run into any fubarishness with the signal quality, I can always move the rabbit ears around and see the effect via the app's diagnostics. This beats any cable company's customer support. FWIW, channels 2.1, 5.1, and 13.1 (PBS) have better reception on one end of the windowsill, and the other channels prefer the other side. YMMV.

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  26. it's their pricing model. by Deathlizard · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm a recent Adelphia to TWC transfer. Adn I can tell you that it's not exactly HDTV demand that pushing these units.

    Under Adelphia, it was roughly $5 for a standard digital box, and $10 for a HD DVR. last month, I get a rate adjustment that raised the Standard box by $3 and dropped the HD DVR by $2. That's right, the HD DVR is now the same price as the cheap SD box with no DVR. So basicially, if you already had DVR service, you might as well replace all of your SD units with the HD DVR's because you're paying the same price anyway for the SD units, and you can get the free HD channels as well. (even without an HDTV, the HD local channels are much clearer than their analog equivelant)

    I'm sure I'm not the only person from the Adelphia changeover that noticed this.

    1. Re:it's their pricing model. by DJenk47 · · Score: 1

      I noticed the same thing on my bill. Another reason for the demand is the crap production quality of the boxes (Scientific Atlanta, I believe) themselves. I'm on my 4th HD DVR because the boxes just die. The HD boxes are supposed to be higher quality then the regular DVR's, but I went through five of the regular units before switching to the HD version.

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    2. Re:it's their pricing model. by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      You might want to watch out for this one.

      Right now, TWC is only temporarily using the prior Adelphia pricing model. I think they're letting it sit for about a year from the switchover date. Afterwards, things are planning to switch to normal TWC pricing for cable boxes, which will put your HD-DVRs at roughly $18/mo each.

      Enjoy the price break while it lasts, and don't be surprised when the monster bill hits.

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    3. Re:it's their pricing model. by Deathlizard · · Score: 1

      I'm already paying $130 for cable right now, and actually I'm waiting for them to switch over to TWC billing so I can knock that down $20-$30 Adelphia used to be a great value, then Rigas bankrupted the thing and whoever took his job basicially raised the rates by roughly 50% My bill went from $85 to $115 overnight for the same service minus 10 channels. Then add the DVR box and we're in $130 territory.

      So far, it looks like TWC has the same prices that Adelphia had Pre Bankruptcy. looking at what other TWCNEO venues are charged (particularry Youngstown OH, since they've had it for years now.) They list Digital tuner as well as dual tuner (my guess the DVR) at $8. They also list DVR at $6 as a service but don't really say if it's per box or per household.

      Even so. if they charge me DVR service per box, then they will go back, but until then why not get the better box at the same price as the lower end box?

  27. Still the best way to get network.. by Wilf_Brim · · Score: 1

    OTA is still the best way to get HD content. Most cable and satellite providers only go to 1080i. Fox Sports broadcasts in 720p, and yes, you can see a difference. And, most importantly, you get the full bitrate from Fox and CBS: the affiliates are not allowed to broadcast less that what the network provides. This in contrast to the cable and DBS providers, who are notorious "bit shavers". If you are lucky you can get away with an indoor antenna; I had to go really old school and place an antenna on my roof but the signals are great. Of course, some networks *cough*NBC*cough*cough insist on multicasting crap secondary channels which results in insufficient bandwidth and awful breakup with a fast moving picture.

  28. never on my SD tivo box (dual tuner direct-tivo) w by way2trivial · · Score: 1

    never on my SD tivo box (dual tuner direct-tivo) would they be able to remotely disable the ability to view shows I already saved!

    so many things have happened that I would never have believed before (patriot act, DMCA etc)

    tivo can adjust your programming on the fly.

    if the broadcast flag every gets tossed into the FCC's ring- you can be damn sure that some content owner will sue, and force the 'flag' applied retroactively to tivo content.

    REALIZE THIS: Tivo has the ability to program wise do anything to that box they want to
    they also keep track of EVERY TIME YOU PUSH A BUTTON .. they maybe don't WANT to delete a show off your box against your wishes, but they sure as hell are able to.

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  29. HD-DVR by tokki · · Score: 1

    I've got my HD DVR box from Time Warner. For one, I can never live without DVR again. The amount of TV I do watch actually has gone down, because if I feel like watching a show I just pull it up from the list.

    The HD DVR is beautiful. I've got "They Live" and a couple other movies stored in HD (nothing like a 20 minute fight scene in HD).

    There are two drawbacks, one of which is Time Warner's problem, the other isn't.

    For one, the unit freezes up about once a day. This happens quite a bit when I'm watching 480 content and switch to 720 or 1080 by changing the channel, or if I hit play on some HD content I have on the hard drive I tried setting the box to only output 720p (which is what my flatscreen converts it to anyway), but it will still lock up. It takes about 2 minutes to reboot itself. Annoying.

    The other drawback is there just isn't a lot of HD content, and the HD content you do see spoils you. Battlestar Galactica shows every Saturday from the previous season in HD, and boy does it look better than SD Galactica. Prime time shows are usually in HD (except scrubs for some reason), but reruns on most other channels (even HD channels) are in SD (with the exception of TNT, which is the HD Law and Order). Not really Time Warner's fault, but annoying.

    1. Re:HD-DVR by rebmemeR · · Score: 1

      Who manufactures the DVR boxes for Time Warner (NY)? Is it Motorola?

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    2. Re:HD-DVR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "They Live" (which is a great movie) was made in the mid '80s. How does a film like that get converted to HD? Is it re-mastered from the original film stock?

      How does the picture quality compare to a film made in, say, the last decade, when the technology was presumably HD-aware?

    3. Re:HD-DVR by tokki · · Score: 1

      Scientific Atlanta makes the set top box.

    4. Re:HD-DVR by tokki · · Score: 1

      They transfer it fresh from the original film stock. They even have Knight Rider in HD, which I assume is because back then TV shows were still edited using film (i.e. splicing the actual film roll), and then transfered to video tape after the edits are finished.

      The current method is to transfer raw film unedited stock onto video and edit in video on non-linear systems.

      Since They Live was film edited like all movies, transfer to HD is easy.

    5. Re:HD-DVR by demon · · Score: 1

      I've not heard anyone say anything really *positive* about the SA8300/8300HD units (which I assume you're using, being on TW and in New York state). They crash - sometimes frequently (daily *or more). They frequently cut off or ignore scheduled recordings. Overlapping recordings are a problem, as is A/V synchronization. If you're watching a show in progress, people have complained of getting kicked out when the show ends, even if they're still halfway through the show. Their searching interface is poor. There's a million of them.

      Personally I coughed up for the Series3 TiVo HD; it does have a few issues (occasionally a tuner will get confused and leave me with a black screen, once in awhile a recording gets unexpectedly chopped), but the 8.1 update is supposedly on the way, and based on the positively horrible experiences I've heard with the Scientific-Atlanta DVRs (running SARA or Passport - supposedly Passport's marginally better, but they're both pretty bad), I can't say I envy the poor bastards who got them. Yes, the TiVo is a lot more expensive - only because the cable company subsidizes their boxes. If you had to actually outright buy the SA box, it'd cost at least as much, if not more. If you don't return that box to TW when you cancel, they'll charge you full price for it anyway. And if you don't use the on-demand or PPV stuff (I don't - the on demand content is the same stuff I'd be watching via my TiVo anyway for the most part - and their SD PPV looks like ass, I'd rather just rent a DVD; they have almost nothing of consequence on HD PPV, so that's pretty much not even worth considering), the lack of it won't bother you. TiVo's interface is better. Way, way, way better. It will continue to improve - SARA and Passport software will continue to suck ass, in new and amazing ways, as they have for years (SARA has looked pretty much the same for the past 10+ years). TiVo will continue to add new features.

      To me, if you're going to bother with an HD DVR, do it right; don't waste your time with the crappy cableco DVR, only to be marginally happy when it gets your desired shows sometimes and doesn't crash more than once a day. I can strongly recommend the TiVo. Why not, really?

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  30. All ready for those without a HD TV by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Overwhelmed by all those stupid consumers who are going to plug their super HD DVR into their standard defintion television sets.

  31. You might be able to use rabbit ears! by Megane · · Score: 1

    If you live in or near a major city, you might be able to pick up over-the-air HDTV with just a set of rabbit ears.

    However, there is one important thing that you need to know, especially if you live close to the transmitter towers: you will probably need to rotate your antenna to pick up all the available stations. But if you just want the Super Bowl, find a list of what channels your local stations broadcast their digital signal on, and work on just getting that one station.

    Digital TV with an antenna is nothing like analog TV with an antenna. You either get a perfect picture, or you get nothing. Or you could be right on the edge and it blinks in and out. The main enemy of a good signal is multipath interference, more commonly known as "ghosting" on analog TV.

    Yes, you may have to go set up a rooftop antenna, and you m ay need to re-align it if the wind rotates it. So try rabbit ears or an in-attic antenna first. And right now most HDTV is on UHF, so make sure you get a good UHF antenna. VHF 7-13 seems to come in wonderfully with no problems, and VHF 2-6 is looking like it may get abandoned because it sucks for digital.

    And beware of using amplifiers. Amplifiers, especially with an already strong signal, can make your reception worse. If you must use one, keep it as close to the antenna as possible, and make sure it's actually getting power.

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    1. Re:You might be able to use rabbit ears! by edmicman · · Score: 1

      How do the rabbit ears work on an HDTV? I've been curious about the OTA signals compared to our Comcast lineup, but everything I've heard about getting an HD tuner have been expensive. Or do you still need an HD tuner, but you can just hook basic rabbit ears up to that?

    2. Re:You might be able to use rabbit ears! by rotor · · Score: 1

      Yeah - you need the tuner.

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    3. Re:You might be able to use rabbit ears! by Megane · · Score: 1

      Yes, you need a tuner, but if you purchased a large set in the past year, or any set after about this coming March or so, your TV will either have a digital tuner or no tuner at all, not even analog. If you have an older "HD-Ready" set, you will have to look for a set-top box tuner.

      If you have satellite, you may have or be able to get a box with an over-the-air digital tuner, but otherwise they are not easy to find at stores. The big box stores would rather sell satellite TV and get a spiff for doing so, so they don't stock many stand-alone tuners, if any at all. If you don't have satellite, be careful because a tuner box may not receive any over-the-air channels at all if you don't have an active subscription.

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  32. Local Issue? by kilo_foxtrot84 · · Score: 1

    I realize that the symptoms of shortage are widespread, but I think this particular story is just for Syracuse. Their "Your Stories" segment is just that: stories or complaints that people call in that NewsChannel 9 investigates and reports on.

  33. Returned mine by bahwi · · Score: 1

    I just returned mine 2 weeks ago, works great and all but I cancelled cable and got Netflix. Much happier too by the way. The only reason I cancelled cable was when Time Warner became the provider here in DFW instead of Comcast my internet went down for over a week, and all their support lines were busy signals. I work from home about 90% of the time and can't really live like that. And when their excuse/remedy is "Well I'm sorry" I had to get Speakeasy. Took 3 months to install speakeasy though, ugh. But the cable internet worked well enough till it was installed.

  34. What happens after the Super Bowl? by Rearden82 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Headline the week after the Super Bowl: "Time Warner Cable runs out of storage space for returned HD DVRs".

    I've been told that a surprising number of people buy a big-screen HDTV, watch the game, and return it the day after. People like them are the reason the rest of us get sacked with restocking fees.

    1. Re:What happens after the Super Bowl? by MyOtherUIDis3digits · · Score: 1

      I've been told that a surprising number of people buy a big-screen HDTV, watch the game, and return it the day after. People like them are the reason the rest of us get sacked with restocking fees.

      Or get a sweet deal on a returned bigscreen right after the Super Bowl, like I did.

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  35. Even I bought a HDTV by fishbowl · · Score: 1

    Even I bought one, but I don't give a crap about broadcast TV or cable TV or sports.

    I got sick and tired of the space my TV was taking up, gave the TV and the entertainment center to a friend,
    and bought the best flatscreen TV I could find based on how it worked as a sVGA monitor. It happens to also have a HDTV tuner, HDMI inputs, etc., and I'm really happy with the way it works with my NTSC dvr box and cable tuner. (I have cable mainly as a side-effect of my internet connection.)

    What I found amusing was that the TV's that can work as PC monitors, are converging in price with the larger PC monitors.

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    1. Re:Even I bought a HDTV by jweller · · Score: 1

      Even I bought one, but I don't give a crap about broadcast TV or cable TV or sports.

      I got sick and tired of the space my TV was taking up

      that may well be what finally pushes me over the edge. I have an entertainment center that is ungodly heavy, and takes up a large portion of my living room. A flat panel and an equipment rack would be sooooooo much nicer.

    2. Re:Even I bought a HDTV by fishbowl · · Score: 1



      "that may well be what finally pushes me over the edge. I have an entertainment center that is ungodly heavy, and takes up a large portion of my living room. A flat panel and an equipment rack would be sooooooo much nicer."

      Indeed, it is. I'm a musician, and the lion's share of my living room is occupied by a grand piano. If it were up to me alone, I probably would not have a tv at all, or maybe a very small one on the bedroom or whatever, a TV tuner on a desktop computer I guess.

      I also have synthesizers and some audio gear in a 19" rack, but I have a separate room for that stuff. I sometimes wonder how I got to the point of buying a TV and a "home theater" system (the sound system is a joke compared to the monitors in my music studio) but it seems to keep the female happy.

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  36. Acutally it isn't a problem by PadRacerExtreme · · Score: 1

    Fortunately it's possible to receive HD cable programming without one of their HD boxes

    FTA:

    customers can still watch TV shows-like the upcoming Super Bowl-in HD because they have "plenty of regular high-definition boxes, without the DVR capabilities."
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  37. DirecTV HR20 is getting better by PoitNarf · · Score: 1

    With the most recent software update for the DirecTV HR20 HDDVR many people are seeing improvements in reliability and performance. Just for the sake of counterpoint, my HR20 has been running very well for the past 5 months.

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  38. HD Super Bowl...how about the ads? by dosius · · Score: 1

    Are the ads being made for HD? Because my box (from TWC) scales HD down to SD and I'd rather cap at the highest resolution available to me, keeping in mind, that's 704x470 for the regular CBS and 704x360 for the widescreen version.

    -uso.

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  39. Every year.... by NetJunkie · · Score: 1

    This isn't news. It happens every year now at this time. It's a mix of people getting new TVs for Christmas and then those that didn't get one before the Super Bowl. Every year Time Warner here (in Raleigh, NC) is on TV saying they are out of HD boxes.

  40. just buy an antenna by mzs · · Score: 1

    I watched the Bears Packer (oops SeaHawks) game at home on my 30 in or so HDTV CRT set. It was very good quality. Then I watched the Bears Saints game at a friend's house on his 50 inch DLP HD set with comcast cable and it was just terrible quality. The grass would go from muddle to perfect to shimmer even with no movement of the camera. And when there was any movement, it was all a blurred mess. At half time I left saying the snow was getting bad but really I went to my parents' where they have a 36 in LCD HD set with comcast cable and an old antenna in the attic. Switching from the cable to the antenna was the difference, it is true comcast recompresses their HD signals and it is very noticeable.

    It was very bad during the World Cup too. At my parents they had a 27 in HD LCD back then and there were times when watching over cable the ball would be kicked through the air it would disappear! It would sort of flicker from spot to spot across the screen at approximately 2 Hz. When watching the same game over the air on the same set this did not occur.

    The antenna at my old house cost me under $20 (it was a deal). The house I own now came with an antenna. Just buy and install it, drop the cable subscription, and use the money you save to buy DVDs. Heck analog is still broadcast, the last VCR I bought was less than $13 (Walmart) more than a year ago, so you can use tapes for now if you must.

    1. Re:just buy an antenna by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, this is because over-the-air (OTA) broadcasts are much better quality than cable because cable companies have to compress thier signals to get all the crap down the wire. OTA is uncompressed. The local station here in Cincinnati broadcasted the game in 1080i and it was an absolutely beautiful picture.

  41. Amen Brother! by proc_tarry · · Score: 1

    My condo assn had DTV in the dues, so I got the 2-tuner TiVo, and all was well. 2 years in the power supply went out & I went to get another DTivo. Well, this was right after the switch to DTV Crap DVR. I was still SD at the time, and was curious if Tivo was really that much better than the generic ones, so I picked up Crap DVR SD 2-tuner at Bestbuy.

    WOW! Talk about a nightmare! The interface was slow & many of the subtle features of Tivo were gone. (ever notice on Tivo when you're fast forwarding then press play, it'll rewind a few seconds cause it knows you've bypassed the part you want? Other DVRs dont have that feature).

    So I returned Crap DVR and was able to track down one of the last DTivos in retail stores.

  42. Not just Time Warner experiencing problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am attempting to switch from TWC to DISH to get better HD now that they have most of our locals (Raleigh, NC area). I ordered it in Dec. Twice now they have called and had to reschedule the installation. Each time they push it out another 2 weeks. The reason I have been given is they are out of HD equipment. I am giving them one more chance to get it right. We'll see if they finally show up this Monday.

  43. Fortunately... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got my Explorer 8300HD a long time ago. You can find out when this stuff comes out more quickly by going to AVS Form (www.avsforum.com).

  44. pathetic, really, people... by yodleboy · · Score: 1

    wow, the number of people bashing hdtv that follow on with the statement "but i dont have an hdtv yet" is mind blowing. are you the same folks that tell people to shut the hell up because they don't know what they are talking about when said people post Apple comments but don't have the latest iThinkThisMakesMeACoolAndInterestingPerson product? lame, very lame.

    "SD is good enough for me!", "there's no content", "hdtv is too expensive", "cable is too expensive"... blah blah blah. or is it bah bah bah?

    1. SD may be good enough for you. that's great. but for others, it's not. doesn't exactly invalidate the concept of hdtv does it?

    2. there's plenty of content (always room for more though). that damn wiki list posted earlier was by no means all inclusive. What you mean to say, is "there's no content i want to watch". fair enough. again, that doesn't mean the rest of us don't want to watch. a common misconception is that, because abc/nbc/cbs only rehash their regular shows, all channels do the same. DiscoveryHD is not a mirror of what's on Discovery... Mostly original content, shot in HD for their exclusive use. I just recorded an HD converted showing of "A Clockwork Orange" on UHD or INHD the other day. it looks way better than my DVD copy. I swear some of you have not had cable in 10 years and think that there have been no changes...

    3. It can be expensive. However, a lot of the same people saying "65 inch TV's are stupid, i just need a small tv" are apparently forgetting that the small tv they need won't cost as nearly much as said 65 inch behemoth. try shopping around.

    4. I get a package deal here (n. tx) 6MB internet + digital cable + 1 premium channel + HD DVR for $75/ month. I don't think you will find a better deal short of just not getting service. however, i had to research and i had to ASK. They won't hand you a deal on a plate. and i'm sorry, if all i had to watch were the free OTA channels, i wouldn't bother. in fact we just got cable again after a year off where we did nothing but netflix.

    whatever. this kneejerk reaction by people who don't have an HDTV and/or don't have cable/dish sounds like luddism(sp?) or sour grapes to me. if you don't want or need it, or can't afford or don't want to pay for it, that's great. just try dropping the holier than thou 'tude.

    1. Re:pathetic, really, people... by jimlintott · · Score: 1

      You'll appreciate this.

      http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28694

      Oh yeah, I own two HD systems.

    2. Re:pathetic, really, people... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. SD is lousy, especially in the US. That's why I got HD. It's really the only way a TV picture is enjoyable to watch.

      2. Unfortunately there's virtually nothing worth my while to watch. Exceptions: Olympic ice-hockey, soccer world cup, Mahler's 8th symphony, even Sunrise Earth. But usually I watch TV maybe once every two weeks to keep company to my wife.

      3. I don't mind the expense. I got a 65" set. It would be nice if HBO-HD had something watchable (we are keeping it for the kids' SD shows). DVD's look nice but I'm looking forward to HD DVD becoming a new standard.

      4. I got DirecTV. Unfortunately they overcompress, which leads to terrible pixelization in both SD and HD shows, and several of the HD (and SD) channels have a horrible lip synch. As a rule, dark shades show as distinct, flat color zones. Black people's faces show like they have concentric rings on them. It's not the TV set because both problems are apparent on my HD DLP as well as on the SD CRT.

      So I'm not a luddite, but I wouldn't recommend HD to anybody.

  45. What they meant to say... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 1

    Time Warner Cable Runs Out of crappy HD DVRs. I have tried Time Warner's DVR. I settled on Tivo. Compared to Tivo, Time Warner's DVR is a doorstop.

    My wife and I tried three different TWC DVR models. The Time Warner units would freeze up at least once per day (and usually 4 or more times per day), most of the time they would record garbage if I were foolish enough to set them to record two channels at once, and the sound would frequently be out of sync with the picture by 2 seconds or more (on a recorded show). The only good news was that the frequency of these issues was dropping as we swapped out units. The worst failing, however, is that it had no real find capability for shows. I mean, the whole purpose of recording a show is to time shift when you watch it. And yes, I know you can page through the listing and select future shows to record. But that isn't search. With my Tivo unit, I can not only search for shows based on actor, theme, title, rating, time, or channel, I can do so up to 6 weeks into the future, and I can set the Tivo to record shows automatically regardless of how far in the future they are based on my search criteria.

    Time Warner has a long way to go compared to what Tivo offers today.

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    1. Re:What they meant to say... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      The problem wasn't the DVR. Your issue was a poor cable signal to the box. Because the DVR decodes a digital signal, any interruption will cause macro blocking and other issues that you've mentioned.

      Your Tivo doesn't have this problem because it just tunes into your analog broadcast.

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    2. Re:What they meant to say... by It+doesn't+come+easy · · Score: 1

      Interesting. You could be right, however, my cable also provides the internet connection and the internet connection was always fine during our "try TWC DVR" period. The Tivo is on DirectTV, I've never tried Tivo via analog broadcast (when we gave up on TCW DVR, we also switched TV providers).

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  46. Pixelation, bitches! by LibertineR · · Score: 1
    Do you think Cable channels have a lot of pixelation now? Well, just wait until they have to start compressing their signal even more to keep up with the HDTV expansion underway by DirecTV. I already switched and have a HDTV DVR which is just 'okay', but those of you still on Cable are going to be pissed when you see what happens to your just barely viewable picture when Cable companies are forced to push even more signal down their limited bandwidth.

    And then, when consumers complain, Cable companies will then have to switch out all that MPEG2 hardware for MPEG4, just like the Satellite companies did, and its just going to be bloody hell on you folks.

    1. Re:Pixelation, bitches! by Mean+Variance · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And then, when consumers complain, Cable companies will then have to switch out all that MPEG2 hardware for MPEG4, just like the Satellite companies did, and its just going to be bloody hell on you folks.

      Yes, pure hell. I'll just kill myself now. I have Comcast HD with the HD DVR. The DVR is flaky at times, but the HD channels rarely pixelate. For $10 extra per month for both the DVR and HD, I'll live with it. If this calamatous world view you predict pans out, well, I think my life will get along just fine nonetheless.

      Bloody hell? Uh, not really.

    2. Re:Pixelation, bitches! by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      I dunno, I recently had a chance to check out both Cinemax-HD and TNT-HD on a properly setup configuration. (This is important as a badly setup config will ruin the experience. Most consumers have no idea how to do this or to ensure that an expert has done it correctly). The movie on TNT-HD looked like a step up from SD, the movie on Cinemax-HD did not. It looked worse than a DVD actually.

      There's no simple answer to any of this. HDTV aint exactly an IS0-9000 sort of thing.

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  47. I'm sure... by tthomas48 · · Score: 1

    I'm sure that the fact that they break constantly can't help. I'm on number 3 in 2 years. Over 7 service calls in 3 years. 3 cable modems. If Time Warner didn't have a monopoly it would be trivial to beat them at their game. I mean just reduce your service calls per household by 1 every year and you'd probably save millions.

  48. this is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this was [OLD] over a year ago

    nevermind that their boxes are utter crap

  49. Capacity by nick_davison · · Score: 1

    Or the simple reason I got two...

    SD DVR: 40GB
    HD DVR: 160GB with SATA connector and instructions for hooking up your own HD.

    Even if you're actually only watching SD programming on your second box, you get four times the capacity from the HD version plus the inputs to hook up your own SATA drive.

    Curiously, when I got my second box last summer, I was told that they were under orders to only give out one per household. I had to fake alarm that my [non-existant] second HD TV would be useless unless I changed to DirectTV and even then they were reluctant to hand over the second box.

  50. ReplayTV had 'Content Advance' by Belial6 · · Score: 1

    The now defunct ReplayTV had a bug in the commercial skip software, that could make it get confused as to whether it was on a commercial, or on content. This lead the the unofficial 'Content Advance' feature. For many of us that still have Replays, it is very popular during the Superbowl.

  51. Wanna know why? No more VCR Commander... by DaGoodBoy · · Score: 1

    Bright House Networks here in Central Florida just disabled the VCR Commander on our cable boxes in an effort to force subscribers of their Digital Cable services to upgrade to their premium DVR.

    Details here if you care: http://www.awtrey.com/brighthouse-extortion/

    I am really, really angry about this change. I know many of you will swear by the DVR's you know and love, but I like the freedom to share VCR tapes with friends and to watch recorded shows wherever we want in the house. My wife really likes Oprah and a couple of soaps and can watch them wherever she wants. If we only have a DVR and I am home, then I get to watch them too. *shudder*

    Brighthouse Stinks...

    DaGoodBoy

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  52. You must not of got the memo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the S-Bowl should always be referred to as "The Big Game" or 'the game between Chicago and Indianapolis".

  53. You can add storage to Time Warners HD PVR by ChaseTec · · Score: 1

    One good thing about Time Warners HD PVR (8300) is that it has a eSATA connector on the back. I just hooked up a 400GB external HD. It went from 38% full with only 8 shows recorded (mix of SD & HD) to 11%. You just have to power cycle the PVR a couple of time to get it to format and use the new external drive. Now if only trying to schedule future programs to record didn't suck compaired to MythTV or MCE.

    Time Warner told me that the eSATA wasn't active and couldn't be used but I decided to try it any way.

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  54. HDTV by Timtimes · · Score: 1

    I haven't upgraded to HD on my satellite connection, but I did buy an OTA (over the air) USDTV box from WalMart two years ago along with a DLP front projector. At that time I paid about $1300 for the setup. Now you can get a DLP front projector for even less. I am unsure where the market is for freestanding OTA tuners, but I can tell you that I've definitely gotten my money's worth out of the OTA box (paid $200 for it). Plenty of HD being broadcast (hell I'm in JACKSON freakin' Mississippi and we're almost totally HD OTA now. Planning on getting a HD-DVD to go with my Xbox360 and using my Netflix account for the software (HDDVD's). It won't be too long before the satellite and cable providers (I use SD Directv DVR) won't be able to charge a premium for the HD service because it will be the defacto STANDARD. For anybody thinking of upgrading their old SD viewing habits and wanting a truly LARGE FORMAT (80 plus inches) there is no better value than a DLP FRONT PROJECTION UNIT. The only caveat is LIGHT CONTROL in the room it's used for. Screens are optional. My unit does fine projecting straight onto the wall. I've got TWO YEARS of experience with this HD technology. When I first bought this stuff two years ago a forty inch plasma was still THREE GRAND. They're half that now, but even at half price you're still pegged into a DINKY 40 INCH SCREEN. Enjoy.

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  55. Scientific Atlanta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Scientific Atlanta has always had issues with demand. Not a big surprise here. It appears it's only that Time Warner market having issues as Comcast in Minneapolis (use to be Time Warner but still uses SA equipment for 1/2 of the area) and Time Warner in Wisconsin still have plenty in stuck.

  56. Two dozen people? by r_jensen11 · · Score: 1

    Honestly, out of all of the /. crowd, you think there's at least two dozen people that read the story?

    You must be new here....

  57. The Integration Ban by jevvim · · Score: 1
    Timeline is July 2007 when they can't offer the integrated boxes anymore.

    Actually, as of July 2007, the cable companies will not be allowed to place new integrated boxes into service; however, they can continue to re-use their existing inventory as long as they want. I suspect that Time Warner's HD DVR order is being delayed because of the orders from cable systems who have chosen to "stock up" in advance of the deadline to avoid rolling out non-integrated boxes as long as possible.

    1. Re:The Integration Ban by powerlord · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't surprise me, although considering how often the boxes seem to break down/not work (as reported by others), stocking up may not be enough to prevent the roll-out for long. :)

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  58. Who cares about DVR by doroshjt · · Score: 1

    I just want to be able to watch FOX http://www.timewarnercable.com/northwest/moscowkay u.html

  59. Competition by ZeroSerenity · · Score: 1

    The reason why this story probably hit was the fact that the two rival news companies in Syracuse (I live there) are Channel 9 (An ABC station) and Channel 10 (who is owned by Time Warrner). This, I assume, is a weird way to discredit 10 and get more viewers and sponsors; while I belive this is a very poor way to do it. I dunno. Perhaps this rivaly goes a bit on the weird side.

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  60. News? by ffejie · · Score: 1

    This happens to Time Warner every year. It recently happened to me at Cablevision. What's the point?

    I used to have service from Time Warner Syracuse and it was a disaster getting an HD DVR anytime of year from them. Shouldn't the article be renamed: Cable Companies have shitty customer service?

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  61. This is why defective-by-design standards will win by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is why defective-by-design standards win... marketers know how to make the buzzcuts and fat blue-collar sports neanderthals whose necks look like packs of hot-dogs, drool and waste their money on an irrational purchase just because they want to see the contours of black football player ass more clearly.

  62. Re:never on my SD tivo box (dual tuner direct-tivo by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

    I don't believe the SD directivo can be remotely disabled unless it phones in.

    there are hacks to stop it from phoning in ("zipper mod").

    with HD, it gets listings and other data from the sat. I don't believe the older hdvr2 directivos could transmit if you removed the phone line.

    all this mess finally pushed over over the edge and I've been spending some time building a HTPC. I want control BACK again! I want to be able to record any audio and save it. and same with at least any SD content and free-air HD content. next top is qam (there is some clear-qam on my cable jack. on some channels...). there are hdtv atsc/qam tuners out there - maybe that's the next stop for me. but nothing is going to give me hbo (etc) in HD in the clear ;( so unless someone like 'dvd jon' figures a way to get premium cable/sat content into your home-made 'tivo', the HD stuff will stay locked up if it came from cable or sat.

    again, anamorphic encodings (squished wide in a 4:3 window that gets expanded on playback) get me by as a very close 2nd to true HDTV. so while HBO won't be in the clear for home save-to-disk stuff, at least regular dvd's in anamorphic mode help fill the gap. a little bit.

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  63. Slownewsday tag... by LilGuy · · Score: 1

    Completely correct. What the hell? This was nearly a daily occurrence in Houston. Even so, who CARES?

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  64. don't even need a cablecard by SEAL · · Score: 1

    If you're talking about the Super Bowl, it's going to be on a broadcast network anyhow. So you can either hook up an HD antenna to your TV, or if you have *drumroll* Basic Cable, you can just plug it straight into the TV without a cable box or cable card (as long as your TV supports QAM). The law requires cable companies to provide the OTA HD channels unencrypted.

    1. Re:don't even need a cablecard by A+Cheese+Danish · · Score: 1

      Ummm, that's a big fat no.

      The law requires no such thing. IANAL, but I currently work for one of TWC's divisions and there are quite a lot of channels we don't broadcast that are over the air, let alone HD channels.

      The cable line is only so big and can only hold so much signal. Were cable companies required to broadcast OTA HD channels unencryped, you'd be saying goodbye to almost all of your digital channel lineup. They just take up too much space.

      Of course, I'd love to actually see the law that does it, as about every cable company in the SoCal area would be violating it. If you want HD here, you need a box or a card, and for that, you gotta go through TWC.

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    2. Re:don't even need a cablecard by SEAL · · Score: 1

      Search on google or the FCC site for TV stations and "right to carriage" on cable networks.

      In almost all cases, the cable networks are directed to carry the local broadcast channels unencrypted. So provided your TV has a digital (QAM) tuner -- which not many do yet -- you don't need a cable box to pick these channels up.

      Now I probably misspoke when I said HD. *Some* of those channels are in HD in my area. That's the big networks - ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX. The rest of the unencrypted stuff appears to be standard def digital cable.

      Anyways, my point is that *if* you have digital cable in your area, and *if* the local broadcast stations specifically request the cable company to carry their content, then the FCC directs them to do so.

      Perhaps in your area the stations choose not to do this for some reason?

      Finally...

      The cable line is only so big and can only hold so much signal.

      Last I heard, ~50+% of the signal was eaten up by analog 8VSB cable content. I bet you guys are itching for 2009 to ditch analog.

    3. Re:don't even need a cablecard by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      The cable line is only so big and can only hold so much signal. Were cable companies required to broadcast OTA HD channels unencryped, you'd be saying goodbye to almost all of your digital channel lineup. They just take up too much space.
      That doesn't make any sense. You're already carrying the OTA HD channels, the major networks are all in your HD lineup right now, are they not? You're carrying them, they're just encrypted. If you remove the encryption, the bandwidth needed for the channels isn't going to suddenly balloon up from where it already is. You'll still be broadcasting a digital channel with the bandwidth savings digital offers over analog.
  65. p0rn industry chose this standard by peter303 · · Score: 1

    P0rn DVD companies have rallied around this standard. I heard its competitor wont sell reproduction machines to the p0rn industry beacuse it wants to stay classy. I guess the competitor blu it, pardon the pun, and will wither away.

  66. Ma Bell perfected this screwing years ago...... by speedlaw · · Score: 1

    Interestingly, Sony makes an HD DVR, but it is in "limited" production. The Sony HDD 250/500 will accept a CableCard, the technology that the cable companies have been forced to eat, and are supporting...not so well. The concept is you buy your own box, and stuff the cablecard in. Now, this does not work for Satellite providers, but does very well off the air, as I get my HDTV (benefits...for a $75 dollar investment, free HD and no HD Lite issues) Oddly, Sony does not list the box in the catalog, but you can occasionally find it in the sony clearance centers if you know where to look, and you will frequently see it in big box stores, providing an HD signal to the SXRD sets. The staff will advise you it is not for sale. (Feel free to demo 720p vs. 1080i via the resolution button on the front of the unit...scares the sales staff when you get to 480 p/i). No one else makes a standalone HD DVR box which can hook to cable, and even they don't officially sell it except as "remanufactured". What gives here ? Worse, no one else is pushing. Here's a market waiting to be served..... Oh, I forgot...all the content providers made the equipment makers bow down in fealty, and any HD DVR should be sold at the highest possible price to a captive audience. A friend in NYC has told me Time Warner cable disabled his 30 second skip button on his box. Silly me...I thought a legal product with a demand would find willing sellers...but the entertaiment business is not capitalism, as much as monopoly. So, following the model of the old telephone company, rent the equipment in perpetuity, so that wall phone eventually costs $5,000.00. My HD DVR cost $300 reman, and was listed at $700.00 new. Even at the $700.00 price, it pays back quickly....but you are not given that choice. Wonder Why ? LG made a box, and stopped. Sony made a box, and stopped. Who is having coffee with who ?

  67. star trek by drewness · · Score: 1

    You aren't actually missing anything with ST:TOS Remastered. No one has bought the HD version yet; they're all just buying the SD version with the new effects, cleaned up colors, etc. The HD episodes are huge and apparently local affiliates syndicating it don't have or can't afford to expend the disc space for them yet. Or just don't care enough about Star Trek. Some actual HD versions have been released on XBox Live from what I've heard, but they switch back and forth between widescreen for the new effects shots and pillarbox for the existing footage.

    1. Re:star trek by Buran · · Score: 1

      It's running at 720p here. I guess you can call that "enhanced definition" since the full capability of HD is 1080i. It's not as shockingly crisp as, say, Jeopardy is, but there's more detail and it does look better, even though it's not jaw-dropping "Wow".

  68. Wait 'till the new software is released in July.. by melcrose · · Score: 0

    They won't be able to give them away. I live in Nebraska and we're "beta testing" the new software.. Alpha is more like it. It sucks in so many ways. Google "time warner DVR software sucks" for a list of the bugs. It's just amazing that they would ask us to give up something that worked very well for this absolute crap. I dumped them 2 days ago and got Dish Network installed.. and I've never been happier. Call me a jerk, but I thanked them when I turned my box in: "without your 'wonderful' software upgrade, I would have never discovered just how wonderful Dish Network is.."

  69. So how long until WQXGA shoutcast TV shows up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sooner or later the box won't be that important...

    Cable isn't only just good just for channels, there's broadband too. Streaming TV seems to have more variety of content and you don't have to pay extra on top of service to view them. Of course anything comparable to HD content is currently rare, but over time should be achievable.

    Now if only someone could figure out how to make VLC record on a pre-determined schedule...