That's why I wrote "almost always" rather than "always". I showed up for class, but was bored out of my skull because I already knew what they were trying to teach me, often with a better understanding than the teacher. I got an A+ on one science paper because it was over the teacher's head.
But for most, missing class is missing information.
OK, just wondering. Is it a members-only charity? Can I walk in [as an atheist] and receive benefits?
I doubt it -- my ex-wife converted to Mormonism, and my daughters weren't allowed to attend her re-wedding because they're not Mormons.
OTOH a Christian church will indeed let you, an athiest, walk in and be helped. Last year they completely remodeled the poorest (public!) elementary school in town and gave each family who had a kid there two weeks worth of groceries over Christmas vacation, because the poor kids are dependant on that school breakfast and lunch. Some kids, that's all they get to eat in a day.
This year they're targeting the second poorest school.
$90,000 went to Africa last year from my church. I'm pretty proud of my it (even though that's a sin;)
Other churches have food pantries and soup kitchens all over the city (well, on the poor side anyway), and they don't even ask for ID, just walk in for lunch. Mormons welcome, Catholics welcome, Muslims welcome, athiests welcome.
God loves everybody. He even loves athiests. Somebody should tell that to the Mormons...
We HAVE to tell you the truth. If we lie, we go to hell. : )
Wow... your bible really IS different. Mine says "do not slander, e.g., bear false witness. If your kid asks "how do you like my pretty picture?" are you going to tell the truth, "gee, hon, sorry but that really sucks" or "That's nice, dear! I like it!" Hint: in this case, the truth is a sin. "Suffer the little children" and all that.
My ex-wife is a mormon, and she scared the hell out of my youngest (25 yrs old) when she told her you have to be baptised to go to heaven. I pointed out Luke 23:43, when the unbaptised thief hanging on the cross converted to Christ, and Christ told him he would be in paradise with him that very day.
And what's with the secrecy? Secret rituals, etc. My daughters weren't allowed to attend their mother's remarriage because they weren't Mormon. Is there any other single religion that does that? Your church, from what I hear from my daughter, is a lot more like the Christian Scientists than any real Christian church.
My bible teaches that my sins are already paid for. If you accept Christ as your lord and savior, why would you have to pay for your sins when Christ already paid the tab?
Sorry, I don't care much for your religion. Me, I'll stick to nondenominational Christianity. I've been in a lot of different Christian churches (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Lutherin) and none of them had any of the crap Joe Smith came up with.
At least you guys are better than a certain church in Florida...
The problem here is that if your kid's school tracks your kid this way on the school campus, your kid likely won't have a problem being tracked that way all the time when they are an adult.
Indeed. When my kids were little they never had ridden in a vehicle where they weren't belted in. We took a city bus one day, and they were terrified, because the bus had no seat belts.
Then they started school, and rode unbelted on the school bus for the next ten years. What happened after the drivers license when they were 16? 3 tickets for not using a seat belt.
Take this damned kafkaesque crap away and spend the money on seat belts for buses. It doesn't matter of the kids are just as safe while in the bus whether or not they're belted, not belting them in the bus may kill them when they start driving.
Now obviously school attendance doesn't necessarily mean good grades
Good attendance doesn't guarantee good grades, but poor attendance almost always guarantees bad grades. You can't learn if you're not exposed to the information.
Me and my co-workers have RFID-enabled badges to access our workplace and PCs, and it leaves logging trails for sure.
You can quit your job and get a different one without RFID. Your kid, on the other hand, is required by law to attend school. That's the difference, and it's a big one.
It was like they figured out what technology would exist in the future, then transplanted it to their time line.
To be fair, every science fiction writer there ever was did this. Take Asimov's Caves of Steel where photographic film was still used. Nobody foresaw digital photography; if they did, I missed that story.
Wow, it's just like the teacher taking attendance!
No, it's just like the teacher following you around the school the entire time you're there. It's fucking creepy. If I had a kid in one of those schools I'd be raising hell, too.
That's because the internet and pocket computing have made little difference to how people live their lives. I know this is heresy on slashdot
Not heresy, just the ignorance of someone who has had these devices all their life. You have every single book ever writen before Micley Mouse stole copyright, you have a camera, movie camera, sound recorder, telephone, calendar, calculator, address book in your pocket. You no longer have pay phones.
If you wanted to contact someone who didn't live close by in pre-internet times, you spent quite a sum to talk over the phone, or you wrote a letter on paper and set it to them, and they'd get it in a week or two. If you wanted to send a photo, you had it printed and again, they'd have it in a week or two. If you took a picture, you couldn't see it for a week because that's usually how long it took to get film processed.
If your band wanted to record its own album, tough shit -- nobody recorded without an RIAA contract. There was no such thing as indie music. Nobody would hear your band unless they were drinking in the bar you played in. Today your band in empowered, if you're good you may go viral on the internet.
If you wanted to write, nobody would read it without the blessing of a book publisher. If you wanted to express your opinion on politics, you wrote a letter to the editor and he would get it in a week, and then not print it. Letters to teh editor are printed at the editor's whim. Now, anybody can publish a blog and if it's good it will be read.
the fact remains that being poor and having a crappy smartphone still means you're poor.
If you're poor you're not going to have a crappy smartphone, you'll have a crappy dumb phone, and then only if your government or a charity supplies it.
Their has been no increase in equitable power and wealth distribution due to the internet
Nor has it given us free energy, flying cars, and world peace. So fucking what? That wasn't its intended purpose. Its purpose was communication, and it's been serving its purpose well.
We've just got some new toys.
No, we've got some new tools. Very powerful tools. The internet is more world-changing as the Gutenberg press was. I know, I lived most of my life without it. Without the internet, you wouldn't have my Nobot stories or the Paxil Diaries. You would have never seen that shot from an airplane of the last shuttle launching. before the internet, if a cop beat you, well, you tripped and fell. Now someone's got a camera phone aimed at him.
The Rodney King riots would not have happened ten years earlier, because nobody would have made a movie of him getting beaten. Powerful tools, son. I did without them for almost half a centurey, be glad you have them.
I wrote a program twenty years ago that would reboot your computer. The program was four bytes long, its name took more disk space than its code. Of course, I didn't use an assembler, just DOS Debug.
The closer you get to the bare wires, the more damage you can do.
If you only knew how many certifications, and mandatory courses, and paperwork, and bullshit, and red tape that the simplest business has to deal with, it would blow your mind.
If businesses weren't so sociopathic that they don't care how many people they kill* or how much pollution they generate** (before the EPA, rivers actually caught fire), if they were honest and upstanding, we wouldn't need regulation. But the sad fact is that most corporations and a few small businesses are run by sociopaths who don't care how many people's lives they ruin.
As for certifications and mandatory courses, well, I certainly don't want an unlicensed doctor operating on me, I don't want unlicensed truckers hauling stuff on roads I drive, and I want those damned giant trucks and busses inspected. I want people building and repairing stuff to actually know WTF they're doing.
* The investigantion showed that the dozen men were killed because the company ignored the regulations
** Before the EPA the air around a Monsanto plant was so bad it would burn your lungs. Drive past one in the summer in 95 degree weather and your windows were up despite there being no AC.
Well, it's not like you have to pass an IQ test. Since they started giving karma for "funny" you no longer need to be insightful, informative, or interesting to be modded up and get karma. But thankfully, most bad mods are eventually undone. I've seen many "0, flamebait" turn into "+5, insightful".
The moderator pegged you. I deserve the same, I'm offtopic, too ( checked the "no bonus" boxes but sometimes they don't work).
Only two I know of, and they both got it wrong. Asimov got it VERY wrong (multivac). The other was Murray Leinster in his 1946 short story "A Logic Named Joe" (the full story is linked above). Oddly, his internet was fully censored and a faulty "logic" (computer) disabled the censorship. Exactly the opposite is happening in the real future -- we started out with a completely free and open internet, and its (and our) freedom is under assault by authoritarians every day.
He said he did not understand how a signal could be selected based on another signal without the use of electromechanical relays. He knew roughly how a transistor works and I explained how they could be combined into AND, OR and NOT gates.
Something sounds funny there. Transistors play the same role as vaccuum tubes, which were around before your grandpa was born. The first electronic computers used tubes. His brother was an electrical engineer, was your grandfather one as well or just a hobbyist? How good was he?
BTW, it's whose, not who's. Who's is a contraction for "who is".
You can't own information. You can have a "limited" time monopoly on its presentation, but you can't even own the document that holds the information.
Example: Your textbook says "Gravity was described by Sir Isaac Newton when an apple fell on his head." That little snippet alone would be fair use, but assume that one phrase is the entire work. Publish it and you're in violation of copyright. But reword the same information, "Sir Isaac newton developed his theory of gravity after an apple fell on his head" and you're not infringing anything.
If people keep saying you can own a work or even information, it will eventually be possible. So please stop it, you damned journalists!
Einstein did invent the atomic bomb, didn't he...?
No. Einstein's threory was necessary for its invention, but the primary guys were Niels Bohr and Enrico Fermi. In 1934 the idea of chain reaction via neutron was proposed by Leó Szilárd, who patented the idea of the atomic bomb (British patent 630,726). See wikipedia.
Unless your TV is ten years old, it has an antenna input and a digital tuner built-in. Just get a rabbit ears if you're in or close to a city, otherwise put one on the roof. You don't need cable for OTA.
Agreed completely. For years they seem to have completely removed the concepts of the hardware itself from programming. I've alwasy thought this was a big mistake. Out of all the programming books I've read, the book that helped the most wasn't a book on programming, but the TTL Cookbook. I don't know if it's still in print, probably not, but it was excellent.
I'm fed up of seeing people abuse provisions that are put in place to protect those with genuine medical/pschological needs and getting away with it.
I've never met the man, have you? Odd how you can diagnose a person as "sane" with no medical background and never having met him. Personally, I tend to believe the medical professionals who actually studied medicine and who actally had face to face contact, rather than from some stupid newspaper reporter.
TLDR: Why do you doubt the diagnosis of a health professional?
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That's why I wrote "almost always" rather than "always". I showed up for class, but was bored out of my skull because I already knew what they were trying to teach me, often with a better understanding than the teacher. I got an A+ on one science paper because it was over the teacher's head.
But for most, missing class is missing information.
OK, just wondering. Is it a members-only charity? Can I walk in [as an atheist] and receive benefits?
I doubt it -- my ex-wife converted to Mormonism, and my daughters weren't allowed to attend her re-wedding because they're not Mormons.
OTOH a Christian church will indeed let you, an athiest, walk in and be helped. Last year they completely remodeled the poorest (public!) elementary school in town and gave each family who had a kid there two weeks worth of groceries over Christmas vacation, because the poor kids are dependant on that school breakfast and lunch. Some kids, that's all they get to eat in a day.
This year they're targeting the second poorest school.
$90,000 went to Africa last year from my church. I'm pretty proud of my it (even though that's a sin ;)
Other churches have food pantries and soup kitchens all over the city (well, on the poor side anyway), and they don't even ask for ID, just walk in for lunch. Mormons welcome, Catholics welcome, Muslims welcome, athiests welcome.
God loves everybody. He even loves athiests. Somebody should tell that to the Mormons...
We HAVE to tell you the truth. If we lie, we go to hell. : )
Wow... your bible really IS different. Mine says "do not slander, e.g., bear false witness. If your kid asks "how do you like my pretty picture?" are you going to tell the truth, "gee, hon, sorry but that really sucks" or "That's nice, dear! I like it!" Hint: in this case, the truth is a sin. "Suffer the little children" and all that.
My ex-wife is a mormon, and she scared the hell out of my youngest (25 yrs old) when she told her you have to be baptised to go to heaven. I pointed out Luke 23:43, when the unbaptised thief hanging on the cross converted to Christ, and Christ told him he would be in paradise with him that very day.
And what's with the secrecy? Secret rituals, etc. My daughters weren't allowed to attend their mother's remarriage because they weren't Mormon. Is there any other single religion that does that? Your church, from what I hear from my daughter, is a lot more like the Christian Scientists than any real Christian church.
My bible teaches that my sins are already paid for. If you accept Christ as your lord and savior, why would you have to pay for your sins when Christ already paid the tab?
Sorry, I don't care much for your religion. Me, I'll stick to nondenominational Christianity. I've been in a lot of different Christian churches (Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Lutherin) and none of them had any of the crap Joe Smith came up with.
At least you guys are better than a certain church in Florida...
The problem here is that if your kid's school tracks your kid this way on the school campus, your kid likely won't have a problem being tracked that way all the time when they are an adult.
Indeed. When my kids were little they never had ridden in a vehicle where they weren't belted in. We took a city bus one day, and they were terrified, because the bus had no seat belts.
Then they started school, and rode unbelted on the school bus for the next ten years. What happened after the drivers license when they were 16? 3 tickets for not using a seat belt.
Take this damned kafkaesque crap away and spend the money on seat belts for buses. It doesn't matter of the kids are just as safe while in the bus whether or not they're belted, not belting them in the bus may kill them when they start driving.
Now obviously school attendance doesn't necessarily mean good grades
Good attendance doesn't guarantee good grades, but poor attendance almost always guarantees bad grades. You can't learn if you're not exposed to the information.
Me and my co-workers have RFID-enabled badges to access our workplace and PCs, and it leaves logging trails for sure.
You can quit your job and get a different one without RFID. Your kid, on the other hand, is required by law to attend school. That's the difference, and it's a big one.
Three people moderated that insightful comment is "troll". Slashdot, why are those three people getting mod points? Is metamoderation not working?
It was like they figured out what technology would exist in the future, then transplanted it to their time line.
To be fair, every science fiction writer there ever was did this. Take Asimov's Caves of Steel where photographic film was still used. Nobody foresaw digital photography; if they did, I missed that story.
Unclear: did you mean our countries' politics or our country's politics?
That's a mobile radio like police uses untill today
So is your cell phone.
Wow, it's just like the teacher taking attendance!
No, it's just like the teacher following you around the school the entire time you're there. It's fucking creepy. If I had a kid in one of those schools I'd be raising hell, too.
That's because the internet and pocket computing have made little difference to how people live their lives. I know this is heresy on slashdot
Not heresy, just the ignorance of someone who has had these devices all their life. You have every single book ever writen before Micley Mouse stole copyright, you have a camera, movie camera, sound recorder, telephone, calendar, calculator, address book in your pocket. You no longer have pay phones.
If you wanted to contact someone who didn't live close by in pre-internet times, you spent quite a sum to talk over the phone, or you wrote a letter on paper and set it to them, and they'd get it in a week or two. If you wanted to send a photo, you had it printed and again, they'd have it in a week or two. If you took a picture, you couldn't see it for a week because that's usually how long it took to get film processed.
If your band wanted to record its own album, tough shit -- nobody recorded without an RIAA contract. There was no such thing as indie music. Nobody would hear your band unless they were drinking in the bar you played in. Today your band in empowered, if you're good you may go viral on the internet.
If you wanted to write, nobody would read it without the blessing of a book publisher. If you wanted to express your opinion on politics, you wrote a letter to the editor and he would get it in a week, and then not print it. Letters to teh editor are printed at the editor's whim. Now, anybody can publish a blog and if it's good it will be read.
the fact remains that being poor and having a crappy smartphone still means you're poor.
If you're poor you're not going to have a crappy smartphone, you'll have a crappy dumb phone, and then only if your government or a charity supplies it.
Their has been no increase in equitable power and wealth distribution due to the internet
Nor has it given us free energy, flying cars, and world peace. So fucking what? That wasn't its intended purpose. Its purpose was communication, and it's been serving its purpose well.
We've just got some new toys.
No, we've got some new tools. Very powerful tools. The internet is more world-changing as the Gutenberg press was. I know, I lived most of my life without it. Without the internet, you wouldn't have my Nobot stories or the Paxil Diaries. You would have never seen that shot from an airplane of the last shuttle launching. before the internet, if a cop beat you, well, you tripped and fell. Now someone's got a camera phone aimed at him.
The Rodney King riots would not have happened ten years earlier, because nobody would have made a movie of him getting beaten. Powerful tools, son. I did without them for almost half a centurey, be glad you have them.
I wrote a program twenty years ago that would reboot your computer. The program was four bytes long, its name took more disk space than its code. Of course, I didn't use an assembler, just DOS Debug.
The closer you get to the bare wires, the more damage you can do.
Oh, man, you guys kill me!
If you only knew how many certifications, and mandatory courses, and paperwork, and bullshit, and red tape that the simplest business has to deal with, it would blow your mind.
If businesses weren't so sociopathic that they don't care how many people they kill* or how much pollution they generate** (before the EPA, rivers actually caught fire), if they were honest and upstanding, we wouldn't need regulation. But the sad fact is that most corporations and a few small businesses are run by sociopaths who don't care how many people's lives they ruin.
As for certifications and mandatory courses, well, I certainly don't want an unlicensed doctor operating on me, I don't want unlicensed truckers hauling stuff on roads I drive, and I want those damned giant trucks and busses inspected. I want people building and repairing stuff to actually know WTF they're doing.
* The investigantion showed that the dozen men were killed because the company ignored the regulations
** Before the EPA the air around a Monsanto plant was so bad it would burn your lungs. Drive past one in the summer in 95 degree weather and your windows were up despite there being no AC.
Well, it's not like you have to pass an IQ test. Since they started giving karma for "funny" you no longer need to be insightful, informative, or interesting to be modded up and get karma. But thankfully, most bad mods are eventually undone. I've seen many "0, flamebait" turn into "+5, insightful".
The moderator pegged you. I deserve the same, I'm offtopic, too ( checked the "no bonus" boxes but sometimes they don't work).
Very few got the internet
Only two I know of, and they both got it wrong. Asimov got it VERY wrong (multivac). The other was Murray Leinster in his 1946 short story "A Logic Named Joe" (the full story is linked above). Oddly, his internet was fully censored and a faulty "logic" (computer) disabled the censorship. Exactly the opposite is happening in the real future -- we started out with a completely free and open internet, and its (and our) freedom is under assault by authoritarians every day.
He said he did not understand how a signal could be selected based on another signal without the use of electromechanical relays. He knew roughly how a transistor works and I explained how they could be combined into AND, OR and NOT gates.
Something sounds funny there. Transistors play the same role as vaccuum tubes, which were around before your grandpa was born. The first electronic computers used tubes. His brother was an electrical engineer, was your grandfather one as well or just a hobbyist? How good was he?
BTW, it's whose, not who's. Who's is a contraction for "who is".
You can't own information. You can have a "limited" time monopoly on its presentation, but you can't even own the document that holds the information.
Example: Your textbook says "Gravity was described by Sir Isaac Newton when an apple fell on his head." That little snippet alone would be fair use, but assume that one phrase is the entire work. Publish it and you're in violation of copyright. But reword the same information, "Sir Isaac newton developed his theory of gravity after an apple fell on his head" and you're not infringing anything.
If people keep saying you can own a work or even information, it will eventually be possible. So please stop it, you damned journalists!
Einstein did invent the atomic bomb, didn't he...?
No. Einstein's threory was necessary for its invention, but the primary guys were Niels Bohr and Enrico Fermi. In 1934 the idea of chain reaction via neutron was proposed by Leó Szilárd, who patented the idea of the atomic bomb (British patent 630,726). See wikipedia.
Unless your TV is ten years old, it has an antenna input and a digital tuner built-in. Just get a rabbit ears if you're in or close to a city, otherwise put one on the roof. You don't need cable for OTA.
Agreed completely. For years they seem to have completely removed the concepts of the hardware itself from programming. I've alwasy thought this was a big mistake. Out of all the programming books I've read, the book that helped the most wasn't a book on programming, but the TTL Cookbook. I don't know if it's still in print, probably not, but it was excellent.
No, a flux capacitor is a device. This is a material. I'm thinking Thiotimoline. But who knows, maybe the flux capacitor is full of thiotimoline?
I'm fed up of seeing people abuse provisions that are put in place to protect those with genuine medical/pschological needs and getting away with it.
I've never met the man, have you? Odd how you can diagnose a person as "sane" with no medical background and never having met him. Personally, I tend to believe the medical professionals who actually studied medicine and who actally had face to face contact, rather than from some stupid newspaper reporter.
TLDR: Why do you doubt the diagnosis of a health professional?
Not knowing how to use an apostrophe has nothing to do with grammar, it has to do with basic literacy.