Yes. Ciopy from almost anywhere, including slashdot, and paste it into a comment and half the punctuation (especially quotes and apostrophes) change into garbage. There's no unicode support in comments.
The word 'jerk' has gone through a transformation from when it started. First it was someone cool
No, "jerk" was never a synonym for "cool". It was originally coined to label the kid that had a job pouring soda at the drug store; "Soda jerk". In short, the uncool guy, the guy that had to take all the cool kids' shit or be fired. It transformed from there to mean "dweeb" or "dork" (the Steve Martin jerk) and finally morphed as a euphamism for "asshole".
This might be blasphemy, but IMO windows 7 is far more polished than *any* flavour of Linux.
If by "polished" you mean "pretty" and "shiny" I agree, W7 is much prettier and shinier than Linux. If, however, you mean stable, feature-rich and bug-free, no way. What takes three clicks in KDE takes ten in W7. W7 is far less useable and far less stable, although it's head and shoulders above previous OSes in stability.
I currently have three computers, one with kubuntu, one with WXP and one with W7. We'll ignore the WXP machine.
Maintenance -- Windows still lags badly. In W7 you get the update notification, and you have to download and install the updates (unless you use autoupdate, which I stopped after an XP update replaced a perfectly good network driver with a 100% nonfunctional one). Then you have to reboot the computer.
Kubuntu, one click and you're done. No reboots, no muss, no fuss.
When the Windows computer reboots you have to enter your password (even on a single-user machine in your house that you live alone in) and reopen all the apps and docs that were open before you booted. In Linux, if the power goes out, you can have set the OS to enter your password for you on bootup. The machine restarts, and your password is entered and all your apps and docs that were open before are open again. That, to my mind, is polish, and W7 lacks it.
If you add new hardware to your W7 box, it will detect it on startup and maybe (but not usually) find the right driver. More often you have to insert an install disk and run an installer.
Then, of course, you have to reboot after a bunch of UACs.
Linux? Start it up and the new hardware just works. No installation, no muss, no fuss, no reboots. It just works. That's MY idea of "polished" and by that criteria, Linux is far more polished. But if your criteria for "polished" is "pretty" than yes, W7 is prettier than any Linux distro. But far less functional and with far fewer features. I have yet to find a single feature in W7 that kubuntu lacks.
With that said, many people are really resisting the change in the UI, to the point where they are looking for excuses to NOT make the switch.
Excuses not to make the switch??? I take it you have a lot of MS stock in your IRA? Rather than needing a reason (not "excuse") not to switch, give me a reason... no, a lot of reasons why I should switch. Meaning, how will W8 increase my productivity or make my job easier? No increase in ease or productivity means no reason to switch, decreased ease or productivity is a damned good reason NOT to.
we CAN expect a number of annoying issues with Windows 8 due to the number of changes to "how you use the computer". I suspect we will see most of those issues fixed with service pack 1.
Very good reason not to switch, or at least wait for the service pack.
The problem is that the longer you avoid the upgrade to Windows 8, the more difficult it will be to adapt and accept the changes.
Utter bullsht. Learn something MS this year, worthless knowlege next year because they already changed it again. And few of any of changes MS has historically done to its OSes and apps add functionality, but seem to be introduced for the sole reason of slowing you down at your work.
There really is an almost instinctive fear in humans of change.
Of course there is, because change is sometmes good, but often horrible. Sanity says "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Win 7 wasn't broke and never should have been "fixed".
I STRONGLY suggest doing a multi-boot at least so you can get used to the changes in Windows 8, because it will only continue to evolve
Microsoft products don't evolve, they just change suddenly. But learn W8 today and when SP1 comes out, learn W8 again because they completely changed it again. This has been MS's MO for decades now.
Sorry. I had a mental picture of a robot sitting there with Zig Zag papers and a baggie. I know this stuff makes you lazy, but come on folks.... getting a robot to roll them for you?
Have you seen how poorly most people roll a joint? The lazy ones won't be rolling, they'll be using hitters (I hate hitters but the young folks love them, say joints waste pot... yeah, the way THEY roll, sure). A joint-rolling robot would be a boon to most reeferheads.
She has a minimum wage job and the other day she announced she was getting an iPhone. Cell phone companies have done a great job convincing poor people that they need $100/mo cell phones when they can barely afford a place to live or pay for medical expenses. I fear her mind is gone.
Don't worry, that's the normal insanity experienced by every 18 year old. She'll grow out of it. Don't you remember being 18 and all the stupid shit you did?
People who take the most business risk are not those who accept salaried positions for jobs that somebody thinks to be necessary to make more profit, it's people who take the risk in terms of putting in their own savings, capital, time and effort into a venture that nobody ever guarantees to be a winner.
Sheesh, stupid damned rich people... taking a risk? It's only money. Put your fucking life on the line and maybe you can speak intelligently about "risk". And although they risk losing a few bucks, do they risk their lives? If they lose their investment they're not risking abject poverty, but their employees are. Risk, my ass. Everyone else risks far more than they do and they should shut the fuck up about risk..
The question is if they're going to be able to prove that it's actually effective with file sharing, though
Multiple studies have already proven it. One study, in fact, was commissioned by a book publisher wanting to find out how much money he was losing to piracy. Since unlike MP3s and movies, books don't hit the net for two or three weeks, the researchers looked for the pirates and then at sales figures. Rather than the expected drop in sales, there was a sales spike, do doubt caused by the "buzz" the pirate version caused.
But don't expect that to sway anyone from the MAFIAA, though.
First, no robot in existance has a brain. They have computers. Computers aren't brains. Second, no robot in existance is equipped with Asimov's three laws. Thirdly, these aren't robots, they're primitive surrogates.
One of the hardest earliest barriers to get over was the idea of sitting idle for 30 minutes... An aside I feel is related I can't remember the last time I had a good meaningful conversation with a group of friends or even one on one. Hell, even meaningless conversation with depth seems to have left.
I love it when someone gives me a reason to like being old enough to remember when phones were tied to walls and had no user ID. I'll crank up the stereo and sit on the porch with a beer and watch traffic go by for hours. Go to the bar and have meaningless conversations with the drunks (Crazy John is often amusing). Go to McDonald's with my daughter... I pity you kids.
sarÂdonÂicâ â/sÉ'rËdÉ'nÉk/ Show Spelled[sahr-don-ik] adjective characterized by bitter or scornful derision; mocking; cynical; sneering: a sardonic grin.
How do all the nuances of directly or by omission of action harming a human get resolved to the satisfaction of the robot?
Are you trolling or just making a bad Asimov joke? Robots are just machines. They don't have positronic brains, they don't have three laws, and they don't think. If you think your computer is more sentient than a doorknob, you don't know much about computers.
If it was a joke, I woosh you luck on the moderation... I thought it was lame.
I bet there was the same argument about 50 years ago about broadcast TV. "Kids these days, instead of staring out the window (a pastime that served us well for centuries!) all they do is flip on the TV and bang, they aren't bored any more! Windows will go un-stared-out! The humanity!"
Fifty years ago it was "turn off that damned TV and go outside." Unless it was raining. "There's nothing to do!" "Well, read a book or watch TV."
Takes some getting used to but there are a lot of nice power features
Well, "takes some getting used to" is normal for MS (it's one of the things I hate about their OSes and apps). But what are these "power features"? That does interest me, I don't mind relearning something to gain productivity, but most MS changes don't.
It forgot Yello There. The only part of his site still in existance is one page of it I had on my own site, now at archive.org. The rest of Yello There is gone forever. Most of my site is still there, but there is almost as much missing as archived (I still have it on disk, offline).
I, and many others, had the same feelings when the Ribbon debuted for MS Office... There is always that moment of "panic" when you realize you don't know where things are anymore like you did with the previous version.
Yes, MS has always been that way, and it's one of the major reasons I switched to Linux, and I'll be glad when I retire and no longer have to put up with MS's stupid redesigns and other bullshit. Anyone using Mandrake ten years ago could open kubuntu today and feel right at home, despite the many improvements.
MS, OTOH... they make these stupid changes for NO REASON WHATEVER. Take that Godoffal ribbon, for instance. Why change the file menu to an unlabled button that doesn't even have a mouseover? Fucking retarded. Why change "Edit" to "home"? That's even more moronic, take a fully descriptive label and replace it with something random. Why not call "edit" the "blue unicorn"? Blue unicorn makes as much sense as "home". And why move the positions of every fucking design element?
back in the W95-98 days we wre using Quattro as a spreadsheet and my employer decided to switch to Excel, so I took a class. A week later they replaced the old Excel with the new version, and I saw that the training was completely wasted -- they had changed EVERYTHING about Excel, which was now more like Quattro than the older version of Excel.
Why do you MS folks put up with that nonsense, and even defend it? It's indefensable!
I believe you just wasted the chance of making the first relevant "First Post" in Slashdot history.
Funny, but false. I've made relevant FPs and had them modded +5 insightful before, and I'm not the only one. And I try to avoid FPs because just being FP can get your comment modded so low that making it was a waste of time, no matter how good a comment it is. If you want to be seen, be the second poster and reply to the "funny" FP with something interesting.
I was merely pointing out that the federal government at the beginning of the 20th Century did a pretty good job of governing the whole country and arguably was also a hugely productive period in American history in terms of what people did with personal liberties.
Ah, yes, so much more liberty back then. The Pinkertons were at liberty to firebomb houses with impunity, the railroad barons were at liberty to shoot Chinese and Irish workers who were slacking off, white people were at liberty to lynch blacks, factories were at liberty to treat their workers like FoxConn treats theirs. Mine owners were at liberty to use any form of violence they wished to stop unions from forming. Ah, yes, so much liberty. If you were rich, anyway. A Republican's paradise.
If you compare America in 1900 to 1950, and then compare 1950 to 2000, there is a remarkable contrast that can be seen in terms of the fact that America didn't get comparably better economically and even socially in that same period of time.
Yes, the contrast is stark. beforew WWII most people lived exactly like they did a hundred years earlier -- no electricity, no indoor plumbing, no telephones. My Grandpa, born in 1896, didn't own a car until 1940 and he was like everyone else. The "roaring twenties" only roared for the rich, everyone else was hurting.
Rolling this back to NASA and space policy, many of those who were shaping space policy in the 1950's and 1960's had seen some remarkable changes to America, and many of those in Congress remembered the first time as adults when they saw an automobile, airplane, radio, or even television... things they didn't even have as children.
Which is contrary to your assertion that the economy was so much better before WWII and backs up what I said in the previous paragraph. I was born in 1952, when I was a small child neither set of my grandparents had indoor plumbing. Nobody I knew had ever flown in an airplane (except my Dad, who was a paratrooper in the army and he jumped out of all the planes he boarded). Things were incredibly primitive when I was a child, compared to today.
A major reason for that is a significant erosion of liberties in America.
I agree that liberties are being eroded since 2000, but it isn't from "big government" but big money. It's the same people wh were taking normal people's liberties away in 1880. The average, normal, middle class or poor person is far freer than he was in 1900 when the rich were at liberty to deny them their rights, and government was powerless to stop them.
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I take it you've never heard of Eli Whitney, Ben Franklin, or Charles Babbage?
He was modded redundant, and the comment was in fact repeated several times in this thread. "It's a fair cop, gov!"
Why did quotes become "Ãfoe"? Slashbug?
Yes. Ciopy from almost anywhere, including slashdot, and paste it into a comment and half the punctuation (especially quotes and apostrophes) change into garbage. There's no unicode support in comments.
Linux had multi-monitor support years before Windows did.
they changed the license, loosing roughly 30% of map data in the process!
Yes! Data needs its freedom! Cry havok and loose the data of maps!
The word 'jerk' has gone through a transformation from when it started. First it was someone cool
No, "jerk" was never a synonym for "cool". It was originally coined to label the kid that had a job pouring soda at the drug store; "Soda jerk". In short, the uncool guy, the guy that had to take all the cool kids' shit or be fired. It transformed from there to mean "dweeb" or "dork" (the Steve Martin jerk) and finally morphed as a euphamism for "asshole".
This might be blasphemy, but IMO windows 7 is far more polished than *any* flavour of Linux.
If by "polished" you mean "pretty" and "shiny" I agree, W7 is much prettier and shinier than Linux. If, however, you mean stable, feature-rich and bug-free, no way. What takes three clicks in KDE takes ten in W7. W7 is far less useable and far less stable, although it's head and shoulders above previous OSes in stability.
I currently have three computers, one with kubuntu, one with WXP and one with W7. We'll ignore the WXP machine.
Maintenance -- Windows still lags badly. In W7 you get the update notification, and you have to download and install the updates (unless you use autoupdate, which I stopped after an XP update replaced a perfectly good network driver with a 100% nonfunctional one). Then you have to reboot the computer.
Kubuntu, one click and you're done. No reboots, no muss, no fuss.
When the Windows computer reboots you have to enter your password (even on a single-user machine in your house that you live alone in) and reopen all the apps and docs that were open before you booted. In Linux, if the power goes out, you can have set the OS to enter your password for you on bootup. The machine restarts, and your password is entered and all your apps and docs that were open before are open again. That, to my mind, is polish, and W7 lacks it.
If you add new hardware to your W7 box, it will detect it on startup and maybe (but not usually) find the right driver. More often you have to insert an install disk and run an installer.
Then, of course, you have to reboot after a bunch of UACs.
Linux? Start it up and the new hardware just works. No installation, no muss, no fuss, no reboots. It just works. That's MY idea of "polished" and by that criteria, Linux is far more polished. But if your criteria for "polished" is "pretty" than yes, W7 is prettier than any Linux distro. But far less functional and with far fewer features. I have yet to find a single feature in W7 that kubuntu lacks.
With that said, many people are really resisting the change in the UI, to the point where they are looking for excuses to NOT make the switch.
Excuses not to make the switch??? I take it you have a lot of MS stock in your IRA? Rather than needing a reason (not "excuse") not to switch, give me a reason... no, a lot of reasons why I should switch. Meaning, how will W8 increase my productivity or make my job easier? No increase in ease or productivity means no reason to switch, decreased ease or productivity is a damned good reason NOT to.
we CAN expect a number of annoying issues with Windows 8 due to the number of changes to "how you use the computer". I suspect we will see most of those issues fixed with service pack 1.
Very good reason not to switch, or at least wait for the service pack.
The problem is that the longer you avoid the upgrade to Windows 8, the more difficult it will be to adapt and accept the changes.
Utter bullsht. Learn something MS this year, worthless knowlege next year because they already changed it again. And few of any of changes MS has historically done to its OSes and apps add functionality, but seem to be introduced for the sole reason of slowing you down at your work.
There really is an almost instinctive fear in humans of change.
Of course there is, because change is sometmes good, but often horrible. Sanity says "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Win 7 wasn't broke and never should have been "fixed".
I STRONGLY suggest doing a multi-boot at least so you can get used to the changes in Windows 8, because it will only continue to evolve
Microsoft products don't evolve, they just change suddenly. But learn W8 today and when SP1 comes out, learn W8 again because they completely changed it again. This has been MS's MO for decades now.
Sorry. I had a mental picture of a robot sitting there with Zig Zag papers and a baggie. I know this stuff makes you lazy, but come on folks .... getting a robot to roll them for you?
Have you seen how poorly most people roll a joint? The lazy ones won't be rolling, they'll be using hitters (I hate hitters but the young folks love them, say joints waste pot... yeah, the way THEY roll, sure). A joint-rolling robot would be a boon to most reeferheads.
She has a minimum wage job and the other day she announced she was getting an iPhone. Cell phone companies have done a great job convincing poor people that they need $100/mo cell phones when they can barely afford a place to live or pay for medical expenses. I fear her mind is gone.
Don't worry, that's the normal insanity experienced by every 18 year old. She'll grow out of it. Don't you remember being 18 and all the stupid shit you did?
People who take the most business risk are not those who accept salaried positions for jobs that somebody thinks to be necessary to make more profit, it's people who take the risk in terms of putting in their own savings, capital, time and effort into a venture that nobody ever guarantees to be a winner.
Bullshit, the people who put in the REAL risks are the ones on your fishing boat, building your skyscraper, replacing your roof, logging for the wood your business needs, the ones on your loading docks, the guy who empties your dumpster, the people who actually fucking WORK.
Sheesh, stupid damned rich people... taking a risk? It's only money. Put your fucking life on the line and maybe you can speak intelligently about "risk". And although they risk losing a few bucks, do they risk their lives? If they lose their investment they're not risking abject poverty, but their employees are. Risk, my ass. Everyone else risks far more than they do and they should shut the fuck up about risk..
The question is if they're going to be able to prove that it's actually effective with file sharing, though
Multiple studies have already proven it. One study, in fact, was commissioned by a book publisher wanting to find out how much money he was losing to piracy. Since unlike MP3s and movies, books don't hit the net for two or three weeks, the researchers looked for the pirates and then at sales figures. Rather than the expected drop in sales, there was a sales spike, do doubt caused by the "buzz" the pirate version caused.
But don't expect that to sway anyone from the MAFIAA, though.
First, no robot in existance has a brain. They have computers. Computers aren't brains. Second, no robot in existance is equipped with Asimov's three laws. Thirdly, these aren't robots, they're primitive surrogates.
One of the hardest earliest barriers to get over was the idea of sitting idle for 30 minutes... An aside I feel is related I can't remember the last time I had a good meaningful conversation with a group of friends or even one on one. Hell, even meaningless conversation with depth seems to have left.
I love it when someone gives me a reason to like being old enough to remember when phones were tied to walls and had no user ID. I'll crank up the stereo and sit on the porch with a beer and watch traffic go by for hours. Go to the bar and have meaningless conversations with the drunks (Crazy John is often amusing). Go to McDonald's with my daughter... I pity you kids.
I have no clue what sardonic means.
Do you have a clue what "dictionary" means?
sarÂdonÂicâ â/sÉ'rËdÉ'nÉk/ Show Spelled[sahr-don-ik]
adjective
characterized by bitter or scornful derision; mocking; cynical; sneering: a sardonic grin.
How do all the nuances of directly or by omission of action harming a human get resolved to the satisfaction of the robot?
Are you trolling or just making a bad Asimov joke? Robots are just machines. They don't have positronic brains, they don't have three laws, and they don't think. If you think your computer is more sentient than a doorknob, you don't know much about computers.
If it was a joke, I woosh you luck on the moderation... I thought it was lame.
I bet there was the same argument about 50 years ago about broadcast TV. "Kids these days, instead of staring out the window (a pastime that served us well for centuries!) all they do is flip on the TV and bang, they aren't bored any more! Windows will go un-stared-out! The humanity!"
Fifty years ago it was "turn off that damned TV and go outside." Unless it was raining. "There's nothing to do!" "Well, read a book or watch TV."
Takes some getting used to but there are a lot of nice power features
Well, "takes some getting used to" is normal for MS (it's one of the things I hate about their OSes and apps). But what are these "power features"? That does interest me, I don't mind relearning something to gain productivity, but most MS changes don't.
It forgot Yello There. The only part of his site still in existance is one page of it I had on my own site, now at archive.org. The rest of Yello There is gone forever. Most of my site is still there, but there is almost as much missing as archived (I still have it on disk, offline).
The internet does indeed forget.
I, and many others, had the same feelings when the Ribbon debuted for MS Office... There is always that moment of "panic" when you realize you don't know where things are anymore like you did with the previous version.
Yes, MS has always been that way, and it's one of the major reasons I switched to Linux, and I'll be glad when I retire and no longer have to put up with MS's stupid redesigns and other bullshit. Anyone using Mandrake ten years ago could open kubuntu today and feel right at home, despite the many improvements.
MS, OTOH... they make these stupid changes for NO REASON WHATEVER. Take that Godoffal ribbon, for instance. Why change the file menu to an unlabled button that doesn't even have a mouseover? Fucking retarded. Why change "Edit" to "home"? That's even more moronic, take a fully descriptive label and replace it with something random. Why not call "edit" the "blue unicorn"? Blue unicorn makes as much sense as "home". And why move the positions of every fucking design element?
back in the W95-98 days we wre using Quattro as a spreadsheet and my employer decided to switch to Excel, so I took a class. A week later they replaced the old Excel with the new version, and I saw that the training was completely wasted -- they had changed EVERYTHING about Excel, which was now more like Quattro than the older version of Excel.
Why do you MS folks put up with that nonsense, and even defend it? It's indefensable!
If you have to apologize, you ARE the "bad people."
I believe you just wasted the chance of making the first relevant "First Post" in Slashdot history.
Funny, but false. I've made relevant FPs and had them modded +5 insightful before, and I'm not the only one. And I try to avoid FPs because just being FP can get your comment modded so low that making it was a waste of time, no matter how good a comment it is. If you want to be seen, be the second poster and reply to the "funny" FP with something interesting.
it's _not_ buggy.
Then it's the first OS ever released by anyone that wasn't.
I was merely pointing out that the federal government at the beginning of the 20th Century did a pretty good job of governing the whole country and arguably was also a hugely productive period in American history in terms of what people did with personal liberties.
Ah, yes, so much more liberty back then. The Pinkertons were at liberty to firebomb houses with impunity, the railroad barons were at liberty to shoot Chinese and Irish workers who were slacking off, white people were at liberty to lynch blacks, factories were at liberty to treat their workers like FoxConn treats theirs. Mine owners were at liberty to use any form of violence they wished to stop unions from forming. Ah, yes, so much liberty. If you were rich, anyway. A Republican's paradise.
If you compare America in 1900 to 1950, and then compare 1950 to 2000, there is a remarkable contrast that can be seen in terms of the fact that America didn't get comparably better economically and even socially in that same period of time.
Yes, the contrast is stark. beforew WWII most people lived exactly like they did a hundred years earlier -- no electricity, no indoor plumbing, no telephones. My Grandpa, born in 1896, didn't own a car until 1940 and he was like everyone else. The "roaring twenties" only roared for the rich, everyone else was hurting.
Rolling this back to NASA and space policy, many of those who were shaping space policy in the 1950's and 1960's had seen some remarkable changes to America, and many of those in Congress remembered the first time as adults when they saw an automobile, airplane, radio, or even television... things they didn't even have as children.
Which is contrary to your assertion that the economy was so much better before WWII and backs up what I said in the previous paragraph. I was born in 1952, when I was a small child neither set of my grandparents had indoor plumbing. Nobody I knew had ever flown in an airplane (except my Dad, who was a paratrooper in the army and he jumped out of all the planes he boarded). Things were incredibly primitive when I was a child, compared to today.
A major reason for that is a significant erosion of liberties in America.
I agree that liberties are being eroded since 2000, but it isn't from "big government" but big money. It's the same people wh were taking normal people's liberties away in 1880. The average, normal, middle class or poor person is far freer than he was in 1900 when the rich were at liberty to deny them their rights, and government was powerless to stop them.
No, one can see it as young as thirty. If you have memory loss at 30 you're smoking too much weed.