I'm mostly concerned about keeping my traffic private from my ISP, so that is a real problem. But I'm not sure how else you can get the private key out to people. Maybe a separate server that generates one-time keys? So your ISP sees you're making a connection but can't find out what the key is because it's no longer available.
You seem very sure there won't be an accident on the scale of Chernobyl, or worse, in the US and I hope you're right. My point is that the unexpected does and will happen - I should know, I program computers for a living - and in the case of a nuclear power station, the results of that can be far more catastrophic than other kinds of power generation, indeed most other human activity.
I don't know why you keep asking for an example of accidents at *civilian* plants, whatever that means. Was Three Mile Island a military plant, then? We all know how slapdash the military are.
Sigh. I suppose you're right. Personally I would stick with slightly-less-than-cutting-edge XHTML, CSS and JS if possible, but some people are stupid enough to clutter up their app with browser-specific stuff, despite the problems it's caused in the past. Once AIR is involved, I'm not sure it really qualifies as a web app as such, more a hybrid desktop/web app.
I think my original point is sound, though: Firefox will be the assumed foundation for most web apps because it's open, cross-platform and sufficiently advanced for most needs.
What if your office runs Windows, Mac OS X, Symbian OS, Debian, Plan 9, Red Hat, MS-DOS and OpenBSD?
You're fucked either way. Ever tried developing a complex web app that runs on even 7 out of the 8 of the above?
If I was asked to develop one, I'd just make sure it worked in Opera. The poor sod on MS-DOS would be SOL, but everyone else is smiling. (Actually I'd make it work in Firefox too, but by coding to standards and not using anything too leading-edge that would most likely just happen.)
Web apps honestly aren't much better... they usually tie you to a specific version of IE (activex) or Java
You're behind the times. Future-looking web apps will be designed work on Firefox, will probably also work on other standards-compliant browsers such as Opera and Safari, and IE will be playing catch-up. You won't be tied to a specific OS or plugin.
I'm not sure what you mean by PC, but for me there are two completely rational reasons:
The high cost of making mistakes at a nuclear power plant, coupled with the suspicion that such mistakes are often hushed up when they do occur, makes it hard to trust anyone to do the job safely
The fact we don't (yet) have a safe or even sustainable way of dealing with the dangerous leftovers wipes away any 'green' credentials nuclear might otherwise have.
Same for me, and although I have quite an unusual name I have met another person with it who lives a few miles from me (and is of the opposite gender, t'boot), plus I keep getting pestered on a certain social networking site to befriend someone with the same name from half way round the world. I'm not an unperson. I have google results, dammit!
Sure, it does. I think Sir Winston Churchill explained it best:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Yes, because if a British conservative politician said it in the middle of the last century, it must be true today. Just because the first half of the quote is undeniably true, doesn't make the second part true as well.
To Churchill looking at Stalinism, which was about all there was to go on then, it must have seemed that socialism inevitably led to misery, but with hindsight the "socialisms" of the 20th Century were no such thing. In fact, the "equal sharing of miseries" part is demonstrably false even as applied to the USSR, because it still had its rich elite.
Capitalism - the US, the EU - won. Communism - the USSR and China - lost. The USSR shattered. China is moving towards a free-market economy. Communism as practiced by men simply doesn't work.
I would agree with you if you'd said "Communism as so far practiced under that name simply doesn't work." Western economies in the early 21st century are more socialist than the USSR ever was in terms of wealth redistribution and state support of industry.
Who knows whether Leninism could work today - probably not without some radical rethinking - but green issues are making this kind of discussion more urgent, as capitalism is inherently wasteful of resources.
These counter-examples are located in regions where gravity has, for much of the time, been a repulsive force. Simple. Egyptian glass has not sagged because there have been roughly equal periods of attractive and repellant gravity.
Sorry, I really want to hold on to this urban myth, otherwise Walking On Glass is ruined.
I doubt the Googlebot sees many ads, as they are generally scripted onto the page.
As for "diverse" pages, as you put it, Google already ranks down link farms. But precisely how it determines context and trustworthiness of links is a closely-guarded secret.
If I understood it correctly, they altered the algorithm to promote pages which *discuss* a googlebomb, rather than the target pages themselves. Which is pretty cool, as it gives the victim the context they need. Presumably it detects a googlebomb when the links are consistently out of context with the rest of the targeting page.
Agreed. It would probably be hard for the content "owners" to know whether a particular piece of content had in fact been cached, and even if they could prove it, common carrier status would probably apply to the ISP. I'm naturally cautious about the motivations of corporations, but some people here are being overly paranoid IMO.
... except "piracy" is not actually killing music - as if such a thing could happen - although the leeches who cling to its sides are certainly headed for a salt bath.
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True. They are reducing the number of plastic disks that need to be manufactured.
I'm mostly concerned about keeping my traffic private from my ISP, so that is a real problem. But I'm not sure how else you can get the private key out to people. Maybe a separate server that generates one-time keys? So your ISP sees you're making a connection but can't find out what the key is because it's no longer available.
But, like the RIAA's cases, it doesn't hold water.
Hey! Here on Slashdot, every day is Be Pedantic Day!
You seem very sure there won't be an accident on the scale of Chernobyl, or worse, in the US and I hope you're right. My point is that the unexpected does and will happen - I should know, I program computers for a living - and in the case of a nuclear power station, the results of that can be far more catastrophic than other kinds of power generation, indeed most other human activity.
I don't know why you keep asking for an example of accidents at *civilian* plants, whatever that means. Was Three Mile Island a military plant, then? We all know how slapdash the military are.
Seconded! Not for the sensitive, though; the books are pretty bleak, and there are deaths on an Iain M. Banks scale.
When that figure compares with the estimated 4,000 people who died as a result of the Chernobyl accident then you'll have a case.
I hope you're advising your employers to take a standards-based approach to any future web apps?
Sigh. I suppose you're right. Personally I would stick with slightly-less-than-cutting-edge XHTML, CSS and JS if possible, but some people are stupid enough to clutter up their app with browser-specific stuff, despite the problems it's caused in the past. Once AIR is involved, I'm not sure it really qualifies as a web app as such, more a hybrid desktop/web app.
I think my original point is sound, though: Firefox will be the assumed foundation for most web apps because it's open, cross-platform and sufficiently advanced for most needs.
No, seriously. Who but a fool would start writing a web app that only works on IE these days?
FYI I think DWIM support is slated for Firefox 5 ;-)
What if your office runs Windows, Mac OS X, Symbian OS, Debian, Plan 9, Red Hat, MS-DOS and OpenBSD?
You're fucked either way. Ever tried developing a complex web app that runs on even 7 out of the 8 of the above?
If I was asked to develop one, I'd just make sure it worked in Opera. The poor sod on MS-DOS would be SOL, but everyone else is smiling. (Actually I'd make it work in Firefox too, but by coding to standards and not using anything too leading-edge that would most likely just happen.)
Web apps honestly aren't much better... they usually tie you to a specific version of IE (activex) or Java
You're behind the times. Future-looking web apps will be designed work on Firefox, will probably also work on other standards-compliant browsers such as Opera and Safari, and IE will be playing catch-up. You won't be tied to a specific OS or plugin.
Why is it so PC to pick on poor nuclear?
I'm not sure what you mean by PC, but for me there are two completely rational reasons:
... but then we should expect nothing better from a site with a grammatical mistake in its domain. (The US site has found the dude I mentioned.)
Same for me, and although I have quite an unusual name I have met another person with it who lives a few miles from me (and is of the opposite gender, t'boot), plus I keep getting pestered on a certain social networking site to befriend someone with the same name from half way round the world. I'm not an unperson. I have google results, dammit!
Sure, it does. I think Sir Winston Churchill explained it best:
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
Yes, because if a British conservative politician said it in the middle of the last century, it must be true today. Just because the first half of the quote is undeniably true, doesn't make the second part true as well.
To Churchill looking at Stalinism, which was about all there was to go on then, it must have seemed that socialism inevitably led to misery, but with hindsight the "socialisms" of the 20th Century were no such thing. In fact, the "equal sharing of miseries" part is demonstrably false even as applied to the USSR, because it still had its rich elite.
Capitalism - the US, the EU - won. Communism - the USSR and China - lost. The USSR shattered. China is moving towards a free-market economy. Communism as practiced by men simply doesn't work.
I would agree with you if you'd said "Communism as so far practiced under that name simply doesn't work." Western economies in the early 21st century are more socialist than the USSR ever was in terms of wealth redistribution and state support of industry.
Who knows whether Leninism could work today - probably not without some radical rethinking - but green issues are making this kind of discussion more urgent, as capitalism is inherently wasteful of resources.
Going nuclear would probably also help deal with that pesky overpopulation problem the GP was going on about.
These counter-examples are located in regions where gravity has, for much of the time, been a repulsive force. Simple. Egyptian glass has not sagged because there have been roughly equal periods of attractive and repellant gravity.
Sorry, I really want to hold on to this urban myth, otherwise Walking On Glass is ruined.
I doubt the Googlebot sees many ads, as they are generally scripted onto the page.
As for "diverse" pages, as you put it, Google already ranks down link farms. But precisely how it determines context and trustworthiness of links is a closely-guarded secret.
If I understood it correctly, they altered the algorithm to promote pages which *discuss* a googlebomb, rather than the target pages themselves. Which is pretty cool, as it gives the victim the context they need. Presumably it detects a googlebomb when the links are consistently out of context with the rest of the targeting page.
Might be screen resolution-specific?
Agreed. It would probably be hard for the content "owners" to know whether a particular piece of content had in fact been cached, and even if they could prove it, common carrier status would probably apply to the ISP. I'm naturally cautious about the motivations of corporations, but some people here are being overly paranoid IMO.
I have mod points, but can't seem to find 'citation needed' on the dropdown.
... except "piracy" is not actually killing music - as if such a thing could happen - although the leeches who cling to its sides are certainly headed for a salt bath.
It wasn't clear at first there would be a regular CD release, just the super-duper box thing.