I absolutely want rate limiting, session capping, hard quotas, etc. I don't really care about the ToR angle myself but I'd potentially put access through free child friendly proxy or something.
I have no intrinsic issue whatsoever with allowing proper 'guests' limited access to the internet, for free. Check their email, check maps, look up price on amazon, or a phone number, or IM their mom... whatever.
I am not however, providing a 50MB/s down 5MB/s up internet for my neighbors and their kids to use for netflix, torrents, and ultimately cancelling their own service to just squat on mine.
But I have a consumer router, and I don't have the easy ability to create a suitably isolated and secure and limited guest network, so I haven't. I've looked at Tomato and its not compatible with my router. I've looked at DDWRT and quite frankly, i can't even figure out what I'm supposed to use.
The have a supported device database, and a forum post saying not to use it. And another forum post supposedly containing current instructions, that links to other forum posts that conflict or are out of date. My current router is very new, and support seems to be listed as partial... although it appears someone got it working... per another forum post.
The whole thing is full of warnings about bricking devices, and 10 step reset processes that seem to be a bit more cargo cult than real. So I haven't tried it... yet.
I'm not allocating an old spare PC to a task that is currently admirably being performed by a $100 box that draws half a dozen watts, and has all the switching and radio hardware built in.
So no free guest wfi for now... and this despite the fact i actually want one.
Good luck finding a PC without Windows that isn't made by Apple in U.S. retail chains.
Fast forward to a world of locked bootloaders and I could see PC vendors having a "no-OS, bare hardware, unlocked bootloader" checkbox on every single system they sell.
It would cost vendors little to do this.
The reason that it doesn't exist today is because you can already buy any computer you like and put whatever you want on it. So there is no real advantage in offering a no-OS, hardware only solution.
I wonder whether it would be legal now (if not necessarily moral) for an Antiguan citizen to do derivative works of software where the copyright holder is the FSF and change the license to a different one (e.g., a BSD variant)...
Sure, but so what? It would only be "valid" in Antigua. As soon as it's 'exported' (uploaded) back to the mainland it will still be recognized as blatant copyright infringement.
Microsoft have already mandated that systems with ARM platforms MUST NOT have an option to disable Secure Boot.
if they ship with Windows 8 RT.
There is nothing stopping asus/acer/google/ and who ever else out there from releasing ARM platforms with secure boot configured any way they like.
Perhaps, at worst, we are reaching a point int time where if you want a Windows PC you will buy one, and if you don't want a windows PC you will buy one without windows.
And the people looking to take a windows PC and convert it to a linux pc... well they're will always be someone you can take it to to flash an open bios or otherwise 'unlock it'.
You are missing the point completely. Windows 3.x *IS* on technet, so if you need it you can just download it.
TFA states that they needed and got help from Adobe tracking a copy down. That is entirely different from being able to download something that is readily available on the website.
Try getting something that microsoft owns that -isn't- readily available on technet from Microsoft. Say... Great Plains Dynamics 3... for System 7 (Mac OS).
Most evangelical Christians try very hard to follow the New Testament.
Firstly the New Testament is only part of the bible. Most of the book is dedicated to the Old Testament. So right out of the gate, "reading The Bible" includes a LOT of content you'd apparently prefer people NOT use when forming an opinion of Christianity. Is that right?
Secondly, evangelicals seem to be drawing an awful lot of their dogma from old testament teachings. The new testament says very little about gays for example, and most of the quotes evangelicals put forth are old testament.
Moreover, the 'big quotes' from the new testament are stuff like:
Matthew 5:43-44 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Its hard to reconcile that with pretty much everything people do today while claiming to be motivated by their "deeply held Christian faith", even today. From their views on homosexuality, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, torture, drone strikes, so called "stand your ground" laws and gun control in general, how they treat Muslim's, even Muslim American citizens, etc.
Reading the bible won't give you an accurate portrayal of modern Christianity at all, so why would reading the Koran be any better for getting a sense of what modern islam is about?
That's what Red Hat considers it to be as well from what I've read, except that its not a bad thing, because they were pretty upfront about it when they spun Fedora up in the first place.
Fish are so common as pets that there is a name for the glass house filled with water to keep them as pets. Fish are also extremely commonly eaten.
Fish is too general, its the equivalent of mammal or bird. The fact that I eat salmon and snapper doesn't mean I'd eat angelfish and neon tetras. The fact that I'd eat chicken and duck doesn't mean I'd eat budgie and parakeet.
That said I agree with your point. And I have nothing against the idea of people eating horse, or even dog. Though I have little to no desire to do so myself.
Well sure, but its pretty easy to get your routers and network gear to phone home. Its going to be harder get someone to plug a network cable into the water cooler, or enter the wifi password. Well.. until watercoolers have apps of course.
In your particular example when you reboot the pc it reverts.
To make it permanent its a bit more complicated, and depends whether its like Debian or Red Hat.
Furthermore, for your linux solution to be easy it requires that -someone- prep the command(s) for you, blogs them or something so you can find them. With windows, a reasonably competent individual the duplex settings could likely find them on their own, and its pretty obvious to see what it is currently set to, and how to change the setting when you find it.
Your 'copy-and-paste-commands' doesn't even begin to hint at how to find out how to check what it is currently set to. For that you'd have to start from scratch, google a new command and copy-paste it. That's not being liberated and educated that's "cargo-cult-computing".
At least with the windows step by step method, you could actually retain some useful information that will be applicable in the future. With the copy-past-command method its just gibberish you slavishly reproduce.
The ethool option you indicated at least is relatively semantic; but something like:
tar cvfj pkg3.tar.bz2 pkg3/ is practically gibberish.
That's why Microsoft made the Powershell to try and compensate.
And some people would even argue that powershell is better than bash.
(Personally, I'm mixed; I like the simplicity of bash as all the output is plaintext... but while the object oriented output of powershell may be more complex it's so nice not to have to parse the results you want out of plaintext all the time.)
For people who actually NEED the power, say folks like me who do video transcoding while running accurate physics simulations of sound propagation for commercial acoustic design and/or industrial noise abatement, and would like to still be able to work in their CAD suite with multiple detailed 3D views open, it is quite clearly NOT a "simple fact" that PCs are "insanely overpowered", that's fucking ridiculous you fool! The systems are never powerful enough.
You're welcome for those nice zig zaggy walls near freeways that keep your neighborhoods quieter, and for industrial plants that don't cause hearing loss. Games? Pfffah! Gimme a break kid, go get a real lawn to shout from.
Sure... but "video transcoding" do you really NEED to rip a blu-ray while doing that?;)
The point the parent made about PCs being overpowered is true. The home market for engineering workstations is pretty niche. It may well be your niche, but you can't possibly think the majority of people are like you. The big block of home consumers responsible for 100s of millions of PC sales over the last decade, along with the armies of office PCs in accounting, sales, data entry, admin are more than adequately served by PCs of the last few years and don't feel any compulsion to upgrade for 'more performance', even the power users and gamers. The market for PCs has gone flat; because last years PC is still good enough. People are now mostly just replacing PCs when they break.
Unless that individual has chosen to impair their brain; at which point they aren't competent to decide how to exercise their rights, which is precisely the case that arises with excesses in drugs (incl. alcohol).
It's not really a question of "is pot harmful". It's a question of "how harmful is pot in comparison to other legal activities". Other people could provide similar anecdotes about the affects of alcohol, gambling, or online games - yet possession of any of those isn't illegal.
whether citizens have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness in a manner they choose,
The problem is that alcoholics, gambling and drug addicts aren't pursuing happiness anymore with their activities. They might have been pursuing life, liberty, and happiness in a manner they choose once upon a time... but now they are just sick, miserable, and trapped.
Society has an obligation to try and help the sick, and even prevent sickness in the first place.
Drugs and alcohol are the worst though because the idea that a person should take 'personal responsibility' is fine; but what if that person chooses to impair their own brain. Should that be a choice one should make in the pursuit of liberty and happiness? Clearly that's not in societies best interest, and its likely not even in the individuals best interest, and past a certain threshold the individual can't even evaluate their own circumstances properly.
There is a clear and reasonable mandate for some sort of societal interference in individuals actions to prevent them ending up addicted, miserable, and trapped.
Our society is hypocritical.
Not exactly.
Society is made of people with different view points of where the the line should be drawn, and it wasn't all drawn by one guy one day. Its a patchwork of laws drawn up over 200 years. Expecting the level of consistency you are asking for is unreasonable.
On top of that its just not possible to manage the nuanced evaluation of someone's activities like that with a blunt tool that only has legal or illegal as options, and the resulting line in the sand is pretty arbitrary and doesn't make a much sense when looking at the boundary.
Their is a big difference between a couple having a glass of wine with dinner and a strung out addict. The former can be easily been seen be exercising their pursuit of liberty life and happiness and the alcohol is enhancing not impeding it. The junkie on the street turning tricks for a fix got lost somewhere along the way. Banning the substance itself clearly isn't the solution, but neither is legalizing it and walking away.
I have been a victim so to speak. You see, I got a job but the employer wanted me to get "up-to-date" certification at my cost, at my time and then commit to working 5 days a week and being on-call at least one weekend every 6 weeks for the first year, then on-call for one of the weekends in two months.
That actually seems pretty reasonable to me; the only point I'd negotiate on would be the certifications at my cost relative to my starting wage and/or signing bonus.
Surely the 5 days a week, and being on call one weekend in 6 wasn't the deal breaker? Doctors deal with the same reality... people don't get sick only from 9 to 5, and computers are no more accomodating. Things break on weekends.
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Now, if Apple had requested a servicemark instead of a trademark, that would be a different story ... but a service mark is much harder to get.
How much harder exactly? Because they got one:
Owner Name: Apple Inc.
Legal Entity Type: CORPORATION
...
US Serial Number: 85036990
US Registration Number: 4277914
Register: Principal
Mark Type: Service Mark
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85036990&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Pretty much -this-.
I absolutely want rate limiting, session capping, hard quotas, etc. I don't really care about the ToR angle myself but I'd potentially put access through free child friendly proxy or something.
I have no intrinsic issue whatsoever with allowing proper 'guests' limited access to the internet, for free. Check their email, check maps, look up price on amazon, or a phone number, or IM their mom... whatever.
I am not however, providing a 50MB/s down 5MB/s up internet for my neighbors and their kids to use for netflix, torrents, and ultimately cancelling their own service to just squat on mine.
But I have a consumer router, and I don't have the easy ability to create a suitably isolated and secure and limited guest network, so I haven't. I've looked at Tomato and its not compatible with my router. I've looked at DDWRT and quite frankly, i can't even figure out what I'm supposed to use.
The have a supported device database, and a forum post saying not to use it. And another forum post supposedly containing current instructions, that links to other forum posts that conflict or are out of date. My current router is very new, and support seems to be listed as partial... although it appears someone got it working... per another forum post.
The whole thing is full of warnings about bricking devices, and 10 step reset processes that seem to be a bit more cargo cult than real. So I haven't tried it ... yet.
I'm not allocating an old spare PC to a task that is currently admirably being performed by a $100 box that draws half a dozen watts, and has all the switching and radio hardware built in.
So no free guest wfi for now... and this despite the fact i actually want one.
Good luck finding a PC without Windows that isn't made by Apple in U.S. retail chains.
Fast forward to a world of locked bootloaders and I could see PC vendors having a "no-OS, bare hardware, unlocked bootloader" checkbox on every single system they sell.
It would cost vendors little to do this.
The reason that it doesn't exist today is because you can already buy any computer you like and put whatever you want on it. So there is no real advantage in offering a no-OS, hardware only solution.
I wonder whether it would be legal now (if not necessarily moral) for an Antiguan citizen to do derivative works of software where the copyright holder is the FSF and change the license to a different one (e.g., a BSD variant)...
Sure, but so what? It would only be "valid" in Antigua. As soon as it's 'exported' (uploaded) back to the mainland it will still be recognized as blatant copyright infringement.
Microsoft have already mandated that systems with ARM platforms MUST NOT have an option to disable Secure Boot.
if they ship with Windows 8 RT.
There is nothing stopping asus/acer/google/ and who ever else out there from releasing ARM platforms with secure boot configured any way they like.
Perhaps, at worst, we are reaching a point int time where if you want a Windows PC you will buy one, and if you don't want a windows PC you will buy one without windows.
And the people looking to take a windows PC and convert it to a linux pc... well they're will always be someone you can take it to to flash an open bios or otherwise 'unlock it'.
You are missing the point completely. Windows 3.x *IS* on technet, so if you need it you can just download it.
TFA states that they needed and got help from Adobe tracking a copy down. That is entirely different from being able to download something that is readily available on the website.
Try getting something that microsoft owns that -isn't- readily available on technet from Microsoft. Say... Great Plains Dynamics 3 ... for System 7 (Mac OS).
Most evangelical Christians try very hard to follow the New Testament.
Firstly the New Testament is only part of the bible. Most of the book is dedicated to the Old Testament. So right out of the gate, "reading The Bible" includes a LOT of content you'd apparently prefer people NOT use when forming an opinion of Christianity. Is that right?
Secondly, evangelicals seem to be drawing an awful lot of their dogma from old testament teachings. The new testament says very little about gays for example, and most of the quotes evangelicals put forth are old testament.
Moreover, the 'big quotes' from the new testament are stuff like:
Matthew 5:43-44 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Its hard to reconcile that with pretty much everything people do today while claiming to be motivated by their "deeply held Christian faith", even today. From their views on homosexuality, gay marriage, illegal immigrants, torture, drone strikes, so called "stand your ground" laws and gun control in general, how they treat Muslim's, even Muslim American citizens, etc.
Reading the bible won't give you an accurate portrayal of modern Christianity at all, so why would reading the Koran be any better for getting a sense of what modern islam is about?
I'd think that would be where CentOS fits... Red Hat Enterprise Linux without the Red Hat, the support, and the cost.
Fedora is what you would run as an enthusiast and to see what's coming down the pipe...
consider Fedora to be (at best) beta-test RHEL. I
That's what Red Hat considers it to be as well from what I've read, except that its not a bad thing, because they were pretty upfront about it when they spun Fedora up in the first place.
Fish are so common as pets that there is a name for the glass house filled with water to keep them as pets. Fish are also extremely commonly eaten.
Fish is too general, its the equivalent of mammal or bird. The fact that I eat salmon and snapper doesn't mean I'd eat angelfish and neon tetras. The fact that I'd eat chicken and duck doesn't mean I'd eat budgie and parakeet.
That said I agree with your point. And I have nothing against the idea of people eating horse, or even dog. Though I have little to no desire to do so myself.
Takes a while to learn that it ain't so with another OS.
I like the part where after the reboot he had even more problems. I'd hardly trumpet this as a triumph for linux over windows.
Well sure, but its pretty easy to get your routers and network gear to phone home. Its going to be harder get someone to plug a network cable into the water cooler, or enter the wifi password. Well.. until watercoolers have apps of course.
Now be really honest. What is more complicated?
lol, linux, by far.
In your particular example when you reboot the pc it reverts.
To make it permanent its a bit more complicated, and depends whether its like Debian or Red Hat.
Furthermore, for your linux solution to be easy it requires that -someone- prep the command(s) for you, blogs them or something so you can find them. With windows, a reasonably competent individual the duplex settings could likely find them on their own, and its pretty obvious to see what it is currently set to, and how to change the setting when you find it.
Your 'copy-and-paste-commands' doesn't even begin to hint at how to find out how to check what it is currently set to. For that you'd have to start from scratch, google a new command and copy-paste it. That's not being liberated and educated that's "cargo-cult-computing".
At least with the windows step by step method, you could actually retain some useful information that will be applicable in the future. With the copy-past-command method its just gibberish you slavishly reproduce.
The ethool option you indicated at least is relatively semantic; but something like:
tar cvfj pkg3.tar.bz2 pkg3/
is practically gibberish.
That's why Microsoft made the Powershell to try and compensate.
And some people would even argue that powershell is better than bash.
(Personally, I'm mixed; I like the simplicity of bash as all the output is plaintext... but while the object oriented output of powershell may be more complex it's so nice not to have to parse the results you want out of plaintext all the time.)
For people who actually NEED the power, say folks like me who do video transcoding while running accurate physics simulations of sound propagation for commercial acoustic design and/or industrial noise abatement, and would like to still be able to work in their CAD suite with multiple detailed 3D views open, it is quite clearly NOT a "simple fact" that PCs are "insanely overpowered", that's fucking ridiculous you fool! The systems are never powerful enough.
You're welcome for those nice zig zaggy walls near freeways that keep your neighborhoods quieter, and for industrial plants that don't cause hearing loss. Games? Pfffah! Gimme a break kid, go get a real lawn to shout from.
Sure... but "video transcoding" do you really NEED to rip a blu-ray while doing that? ;)
The point the parent made about PCs being overpowered is true. The home market for engineering workstations is pretty niche. It may well be your niche, but you can't possibly think the majority of people are like you. The big block of home consumers responsible for 100s of millions of PC sales over the last decade, along with the armies of office PCs in accounting, sales, data entry, admin are more than adequately served by PCs of the last few years and don't feel any compulsion to upgrade for 'more performance', even the power users and gamers. The market for PCs has gone flat; because last years PC is still good enough. People are now mostly just replacing PCs when they break.
pet food maybe? It doesn't have to be people eating it...
fishing
swimning
running
knitting
exercising
drinking
fucking
gaming is not a "special category"
I did my test from Canada btw.
I do know that Google now REQUIRES it just to open a Gmail account.
I just created one, without a phone number. It seemed to work just fine...
maybe its only true if you select USA as country?
Even comparatively inexpensive sports like soccer and baseball easily run up bills...
http://onthepitch.org/2007/11/22/the-costs-of-youth-soccer/
Individual rights > society, 99% of the time
Unless that individual has chosen to impair their brain; at which point they aren't competent to decide how to exercise their rights, which is precisely the case that arises with excesses in drugs (incl. alcohol).
It's not really a question of "is pot harmful". It's a question of "how harmful is pot in comparison to other legal activities". Other people could provide similar anecdotes about the affects of alcohol, gambling, or online games - yet possession of any of those isn't illegal.
whether citizens have the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness in a manner they choose,
The problem is that alcoholics, gambling and drug addicts aren't pursuing happiness anymore with their activities. They might have been pursuing life, liberty, and happiness in a manner they choose once upon a time... but now they are just sick, miserable, and trapped.
Society has an obligation to try and help the sick, and even prevent sickness in the first place.
Drugs and alcohol are the worst though because the idea that a person should take 'personal responsibility' is fine; but what if that person chooses to impair their own brain. Should that be a choice one should make in the pursuit of liberty and happiness? Clearly that's not in societies best interest, and its likely not even in the individuals best interest, and past a certain threshold the individual can't even evaluate their own circumstances properly.
There is a clear and reasonable mandate for some sort of societal interference in individuals actions to prevent them ending up addicted, miserable, and trapped.
Our society is hypocritical.
Not exactly.
Society is made of people with different view points of where the the line should be drawn, and it wasn't all drawn by one guy one day. Its a patchwork of laws drawn up over 200 years. Expecting the level of consistency you are asking for is unreasonable.
On top of that its just not possible to manage the nuanced evaluation of someone's activities like that with a blunt tool that only has legal or illegal as options, and the resulting line in the sand is pretty arbitrary and doesn't make a much sense when looking at the boundary.
Their is a big difference between a couple having a glass of wine with dinner and a strung out addict. The former can be easily been seen be exercising their pursuit of liberty life and happiness and the alcohol is enhancing not impeding it. The junkie on the street turning tricks for a fix got lost somewhere along the way. Banning the substance itself clearly isn't the solution, but neither is legalizing it and walking away.
I have been a victim so to speak. You see, I got a job but the employer wanted me to get "up-to-date" certification at my cost, at my time and then commit to working 5 days a week and being on-call at least one weekend every 6 weeks for the first year, then on-call for one of the weekends in two months.
That actually seems pretty reasonable to me; the only point I'd negotiate on would be the certifications at my cost relative to my starting wage and/or signing bonus.
Surely the 5 days a week, and being on call one weekend in 6 wasn't the deal breaker? Doctors deal with the same reality... people don't get sick only from 9 to 5, and computers are no more accomodating. Things break on weekends.
Then I met someone else who had been smoking since he was 14, and he was an engineer.
Engineer? ~snort~ Clearly the pot prevented him from achieving a respectable career in theoretical physics.
Bazinga!