I completely get what you're saying, that would be cool.
also, not 360, I do believe that exansion is very very important, I just think that it's started to become rediculous, and these products seem to be entirely out there just trying to get consumers to spend an unresonable and unnecisary amount of money.
I don't see why there's a need to have physics (for games) on an entirely seperate card from a GPU (for games). obviously for standard system GPUs it'd be unnecisary, but it would make a lot more sense (to me) if the gaming-specialized GPUs started having an edition that includes physics processing.
I get what you're saying, but it seems to be complexifying everything for the sake of being power-user-y. it seems (to me) inefficient and relatively unadvantageous.
so basically in a year we won't even need system processors and system memory to play games?
instead we'll just need 203954 PCI slots?
seriously, this fad needs to end.
GRAPHICS CARDS! SOUND CARDS! PHYSICS CARDS! NETWORK INTERFACE CARDS! AI CARDS! what's next? honestly, this it just stupid. there's a border between reason and obsurdity.
AI cards seem to break that border. also I think physics cards should just be bundled with GPUs on a single card.
and network interface cards? might be neat if they cost around $30 instead of say... 300 friggin' USD. or if it was just another part added into motherboard shopping (a somewhat comparable example to what I mean can be found in raid)
heaven forbid those of you poor, unfortunate souls with HDTVs and a PS3 have to spend an extra $10 on an hdmi cable:(
(or use the extra that came with your TV, and some HDTVs do...)
no, 400's not a lot, but i'm currently 3 minutes walking distance from multiple people who're almost to 2000.
guild wars isn't about PK, owning noobs, interupting online funerals by massacring people, and getting to level a million. it's about strategizing and competing.
arenanet prefers to call guild wars a "cooperative/competative online RPG" which fits the bill quite well. and yes, it does vary a lot from standard MMORPGs, (and a large sum of people believe that it's much more interesting and entertaining that the traditional MMORPG.) but if you're looking for a more "traditional" MMORPG you'd definately go for wow. (however there are a lot of extra things you can do in GW in a more traditional RPG format (example: fissure of woe armor *droooooollll*) but WoW does unarguably have more content in THAT area.)
however, i wasn't comparing the overall quality of the games, I was just pointing out that wow has monthly fees and yearly updates, guild wars has no fees and bi-annual campaign/expansions.
you're judging an apple based on the qualifications for a good orange. guild wars isn't about mind numbing hours of leveling rpg characters. guild wars is about its vast and unparralelled PvP modes, strategies, etc. and it sounds like you've never even been in a guild that got team arena builds going, GvGd actively / set up GvG builds, (did did hall of heroes), etc. etc.
and factions added nothing? [insert eye roll here]
I've played guild wars for almost 400 hours, and am still loving it, oh, and I'm going to compete in a 4v4 tournment (for a moderate amount of money) at penny-arcade expo tomorrow.
1. yes, there'll always be some things. but if today, in our current system, good musicians didn't get payed for their music they'd probably try to spend more time on getting money for food, and less time making music. many of which would never have gotten into the craft. not because they're only in it for the money, but because you need money, and they wouldn't have gotten interested in it in the first place if it had the promise of them not getting payed at all for it. how many kids want to be elementry-school teachers? a few, not very many, but a few. how many want to be lawyers. a LOT. why? because one pays money, the other doesn't. ideally, people would do everything based on what's best for man-kind. but that is not modern-day. that's star trek TNG.
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2. i meant "more" open source music would be great. but I don't believe the current system would allow for it to work well. a large amount of proffesional musicians wouldn't be able to get enough money to pay the bills, upgrade their equipment, etc. little own enough to pay money in order to HAVE a concert.
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3. grants are NOT what I'm talking about. you can't live off of these miniscule grants. I'm talking about living in a communism, where everybody chips in to better the society, and the government doles back everything you need, as long as you're doing your duty of bettering the society
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4. sheesh Mr. black and white, can't they have balance? not everybody works purely for bettering the society. how many people do you think would continue to do their job if they didn't get enough income to live off of from it?
1. I'm not saying this based on some argument i apparently had... I'm saying this based on truth. (when did I pick a side on this anyways?)
though yes, that's an issue between the artist and the publisher, so how does that give you the right to steal the artist's work, because sony's a bitch?
2. that's a horrible analogy. (unless you're only refering to sony's root-kit-shit) they're not damaging you with DRM, they're just not letting you have some entertainment in the fasion that you should have it.
a better analogy would be... you and your neighbor split the cost for a fan, and your neighbor doesn't let you use it while they're on vacation even though your terms clearly say that you should get to. this doesn't make it moral for you to break into their house and take it after they leave.
though, analogies kinda suck in general, and I'd kinda prefer to discontinue using analogies now, because you never get a perfect one. this one seems pretty good though.
3. your response depends on false presumptions. in other words, your response assumes that what your doing is actually moral, which is not the case. though it does do a great job of averting my point. you should try to argue your opinion, no?
actually your reponce was amazing.
you should become press-fucking-secretary or something, that was amazing. you just said something that sounded really intelligent, but really was nothing more than being a pompus jack-ass saying "I'm right".
first of all:
it's very often not the artist's fault the stuff's DRMed. the sony root-kitted CDs, the artists didn't know a thing.
and DRM sucks at fair-use, how does that give you the right to go just as low, if not lower?
and by saying this, do you not realize that what your doing is immoral?
if EVERYTHING neccisary for living well was free, then your system would be great.
people would do things just to better man-kind. to make peoples lives more enjoyable, more convienient, etc. and they do it based on that goal, because they have access to everything they want.
we're not in that society, (this was what i meant by we're not in TNG)
we're in a society where people work to get money, because you need money to pay the bills, to live well
we're in a money-based society.
if nobody's paying for anything electronic, then nobody would produce electronic materials, because it wouldn't get them money. money so that they could PAY THE WATER BILLS.
open source music would be great. but we don't have a governmental system set up to provide for people who's goal is just to better people' lives.
also, these people aren't doing it for that purpose. if they were, then they would have their goods available for download on their site.
morally speaking, you should respect the artists wishes.
if the artist wanted to make their stuff free, and make money purely through donations, then their stuff'd be available for free-downloading on their website.
IP is only in the public domain if the holder(s) of the IP says it is.
well, paying the artist is great.
but by subscribing to allofmp3.com, or whatever other service, you're promoting it.
and a majority of people getting songs cheap from russian sites don't actually pay the artists themselves.
and the people you're paying don't deserve the money, as what they're doing isn't moral, because almsost everybody that uses that service doesn't give money to the artists.
and to the last comment,
wait a few hundred years, this isn't star trek TNG yet, morally speaking, the artists created intillectual proporty. we don't share the same society as TNG, so it doesn't apply to today, contracts were signed, laws were made, violating them is immoral, someday the laws should back what you're saying, and we'll be in a modded communisticy society where everybody will be supported by the government. but not yet. people still need money, and laws exist for a reason.
the artists are motivated by money, and they wouldn't be making the music if they knew they weren't going to get any money for it, because in this society you need money
the artists (generally) aren't making open source material.
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I completely get what you're saying, that would be cool.
also, not 360, I do believe that exansion is very very important, I just think that it's started to become rediculous, and these products seem to be entirely out there just trying to get consumers to spend an unresonable and unnecisary amount of money.
I don't see why there's a need to have physics (for games) on an entirely seperate card from a GPU (for games). obviously for standard system GPUs it'd be unnecisary, but it would make a lot more sense (to me) if the gaming-specialized GPUs started having an edition that includes physics processing.
I get what you're saying, but it seems to be complexifying everything for the sake of being power-user-y. it seems (to me) inefficient and relatively unadvantageous.
hey guys, guess what I just did!
that's right, I backed up the current version of firefox onto not just one, but 2 CDs.
i'm waiting for gamespot to review it, they seem to do a pretty good job with gaming hardware reviews
so basically in a year we won't even need system processors and system memory to play games?
instead we'll just need 203954 PCI slots?
seriously, this fad needs to end.
GRAPHICS CARDS! SOUND CARDS! PHYSICS CARDS! NETWORK INTERFACE CARDS! AI CARDS! what's next? honestly, this it just stupid. there's a border between reason and obsurdity.
AI cards seem to break that border. also I think physics cards should just be bundled with GPUs on a single card.
and network interface cards? might be neat if they cost around $30 instead of say... 300 friggin' USD. or if it was just another part added into motherboard shopping (a somewhat comparable example to what I mean can be found in raid)
wasn't this news in sony's E3 press conference?
zomg the first post?
it's not THAT bad ;)
heaven forbid those of you poor, unfortunate souls with HDTVs and a PS3 have to spend an extra $10 on an hdmi cable :(
(or use the extra that came with your TV, and some HDTVs do...)
if there specific information on the GPU changes besides just the core clock speed?
agreed. i want me to decide what I want. i don't want microsoft telling me what I want.
ExCuSe Me BuT wAhT pArT oF dA sOuTh Do Ya LiVe In?
no, 400's not a lot, but i'm currently 3 minutes walking distance from multiple people who're almost to 2000.
guild wars isn't about PK, owning noobs, interupting online funerals by massacring people, and getting to level a million. it's about strategizing and competing.
arenanet prefers to call guild wars a "cooperative/competative online RPG" which fits the bill quite well. and yes, it does vary a lot from standard MMORPGs, (and a large sum of people believe that it's much more interesting and entertaining that the traditional MMORPG.) but if you're looking for a more "traditional" MMORPG you'd definately go for wow. (however there are a lot of extra things you can do in GW in a more traditional RPG format (example: fissure of woe armor *droooooollll*) but WoW does unarguably have more content in THAT area.)
however, i wasn't comparing the overall quality of the games, I was just pointing out that wow has monthly fees and yearly updates, guild wars has no fees and bi-annual campaign/expansions.
you're judging an apple based on the qualifications for a good orange.
guild wars isn't about mind numbing hours of leveling rpg characters.
guild wars is about its vast and unparralelled PvP modes, strategies, etc.
and it sounds like you've never even been in a guild that got team arena builds going, GvGd actively / set up GvG builds, (did did hall of heroes), etc. etc.
and factions added nothing? [insert eye roll here]
I've played guild wars for almost 400 hours, and am still loving it,
oh, and I'm going to compete in a 4v4 tournment (for a moderate amount of money) at penny-arcade expo tomorrow.
guild wars: new campaign/expansion/standalone every 6 months. with no monthly fee.
WoW: monthly fee and yearly "addons", LOL.
though starcraft isn't dead?
damn straight.
there's 2.5 more hours till pax starts, what is this?
i'm sitting here drinking orange juice, and I don't have cancer. conclusion: orange juice prevents cancer! it's clearly proof!
hardly the same thing? what if one of the kids stumbles upon hard-core pornography while searching for pirated things?
i was hearing talk about nazis and rules being envoked, i had to do it, sorry.
1. yes, there'll always be some things. but if today, in our current system, good musicians didn't get payed for their music they'd probably try to spend more time on getting money for food, and less time making music. many of which would never have gotten into the craft. not because they're only in it for the money, but because you need money, and they wouldn't have gotten interested in it in the first place if it had the promise of them not getting payed at all for it. how many kids want to be elementry-school teachers? a few, not very many, but a few. how many want to be lawyers. a LOT. why? because one pays money, the other doesn't. ideally, people would do everything based on what's best for man-kind. but that is not modern-day. that's star trek TNG.
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2. i meant "more" open source music would be great. but I don't believe the current system would allow for it to work well. a large amount of proffesional musicians wouldn't be able to get enough money to pay the bills, upgrade their equipment, etc. little own enough to pay money in order to HAVE a concert.
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3. grants are NOT what I'm talking about. you can't live off of these miniscule grants. I'm talking about living in a communism, where everybody chips in to better the society, and the government doles back everything you need, as long as you're doing your duty of bettering the society
-----
4. sheesh Mr. black and white, can't they have balance? not everybody works purely for bettering the society. how many people do you think would continue to do their job if they didn't get enough income to live off of from it?
1. I'm not saying this based on some argument i apparently had... I'm saying this based on truth. (when did I pick a side on this anyways?)
though yes, that's an issue between the artist and the publisher, so how does that give you the right to steal the artist's work, because sony's a bitch?
2. that's a horrible analogy. (unless you're only refering to sony's root-kit-shit) they're not damaging you with DRM, they're just not letting you have some entertainment in the fasion that you should have it.
a better analogy would be... you and your neighbor split the cost for a fan, and your neighbor doesn't let you use it while they're on vacation even though your terms clearly say that you should get to. this doesn't make it moral for you to break into their house and take it after they leave.
though, analogies kinda suck in general, and I'd kinda prefer to discontinue using analogies now, because you never get a perfect one. this one seems pretty good though.
3. your response depends on false presumptions. in other words, your response assumes that what your doing is actually moral, which is not the case. though it does do a great job of averting my point. you should try to argue your opinion, no?
actually your reponce was amazing.
you should become press-fucking-secretary or something, that was amazing. you just said something that sounded really intelligent, but really was nothing more than being a pompus jack-ass saying "I'm right".
I envoke rule #34
xD
first of all:
it's very often not the artist's fault the stuff's DRMed. the sony root-kitted CDs, the artists didn't know a thing.
and DRM sucks at fair-use, how does that give you the right to go just as low, if not lower?
and by saying this, do you not realize that what your doing is immoral?
if EVERYTHING neccisary for living well was free, then your system would be great. people would do things just to better man-kind. to make peoples lives more enjoyable, more convienient, etc. and they do it based on that goal, because they have access to everything they want. we're not in that society, (this was what i meant by we're not in TNG) we're in a society where people work to get money, because you need money to pay the bills, to live well we're in a money-based society. if nobody's paying for anything electronic, then nobody would produce electronic materials, because it wouldn't get them money. money so that they could PAY THE WATER BILLS. open source music would be great. but we don't have a governmental system set up to provide for people who's goal is just to better people' lives. also, these people aren't doing it for that purpose. if they were, then they would have their goods available for download on their site.
morally speaking, you should respect the artists wishes. if the artist wanted to make their stuff free, and make money purely through donations, then their stuff'd be available for free-downloading on their website. IP is only in the public domain if the holder(s) of the IP says it is.
well, paying the artist is great.
but by subscribing to allofmp3.com, or whatever other service, you're promoting it.
and a majority of people getting songs cheap from russian sites don't actually pay the artists themselves.
and the people you're paying don't deserve the money, as what they're doing isn't moral, because almsost everybody that uses that service doesn't give money to the artists.
and to the last comment,
wait a few hundred years, this isn't star trek TNG yet, morally speaking, the artists created intillectual proporty. we don't share the same society as TNG, so it doesn't apply to today, contracts were signed, laws were made, violating them is immoral, someday the laws should back what you're saying, and we'll be in a modded communisticy society where everybody will be supported by the government. but not yet. people still need money, and laws exist for a reason.
the artists are motivated by money, and they wouldn't be making the music if they knew they weren't going to get any money for it, because in this society you need money
the artists (generally) aren't making open source material.