Okay, if the Chinese Government required a special version of this Windows to run in their country, then something stinks about it. Like the data collection and invasive controls that windows 10 possessed from the get go. Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants or virtually anyone handling confidential information need to be paying attention. The very use of Windows 10 in their work violates client/patient confidentiality. (as it sends file header + other potential information possibly not revealed yet) to MS and from their to the US Government. IIn the movie "Bridge of Spies" I remember Hank's line to the CIA agent "We are not having this conversation" concerning a spy he was representing.
People may brush this off in the USA but countries in other countries potentially doing international business, scientific research, or many other things may not their information going to a foreign power. We weren't exactly thrilled when NASA emails wound up being copied to China with a simple DNS availability message boost (we have since corrected, THAT was scary). Windows 10 is and has always been a trojan in it's very conception and we all need to say "No". Windows 7 or Linux, possibly Apple (but I'm not sure I trust them with their iron grip policies particularly on their Iphones) are perfectly user friend/usable solutions.
Those In the Medical profession, I know many hospitals/doctors are stuck with Windows-only drivers/software packages but the medical industry is going to have to make some serious choices: either publicly tell the world their information will go the US Government/Microsoft (for possibly sale) or the medical community will have to demand drivers//software versions that are Linux or Mac compatible. Some are staying on Widows 7 for this reason, but MS had is trying to pressure everyone to go to Windows 10 either by withholding critical updates (they did patch XP for the NSA contributed ransomware so clearly some mandates there) or possibly through other means. (remember, they did start by force feeding which got a public stick) There could even be legal implications for lawyers and medical professions that could be violated here. Hopefully we'll start getting the message soon. It's becoming a not so brave new world.
That would be great, is MS didn't outright LIE about some of their updates. One of the "critical "updates turned out to be an ad server. That was a riot. Problem is, once the source proves untrustworthy, you can't rely on what they say. Question is, can you still rely on their OS? It think we all know the answer to that one.
The problem is that around 30% of MS Updates actually hurt the user, either by introducing "features" that (like Apple) inadvertently or deliberately adding things that are of no benefit to anyone but MS and in many case hurt he users. Windows 10 Basically is capable of hijiacking itself (as per it's design) so it's hard to know what is good and what is not especially MS gives VERY vague descriptions of it's updates as per the new windows 10+ policy to tell users, it's our update, just take it (up the rear end). The sooner we start admiting that we don't in fact NEED MS Windows at this point, the better. Linux anyone?
Okay M$, increasing the frequencies of your "news" articles will not distract anyone from the fact that Windows 10 is a spyware "OS" with features that actually work AGAINST the user. I'm starting to think that MS is spending more time doing PR for this POS OS than development.
This is getting scary. Even the 3rd party components in M$ Window$ is tainted. What's next? keystroke loggers in our browsers. This is why I use open source on my desktop and my phone. If something is there, it's at least easier to find anyone doing nonsense.
Linux in Windows will doubtless leak data through various hooks to the Windows Data collection centre just like Regular Windows 10. I have little confidence in my privacy or security in anything windows 10 related (which is why I do Linux, native)
Audio works fairly well for me, even on advanced audiophile cards (I like the asus ones). People use mostly Alsa these days although I liked many aspects of the OSS drivers. Supposedly better sound. The cases when I had trouble getting Alsa to work was typically when I tried 3rd party libraries by small contributors that were sometimes in conflict with the mainstream repository libraries and I'd have to tweak them. one reason I recommend Linux Mint is it has a very good chance of running basic sound and graphics out of the box. That said, there may be speciality cards that have issues. Depending on the chipset. Most Windows 10 machines have crap generic sound chips by realtek. Audio process I've used with no issues include Realtek, Asus, Azutech, M-Audio, Sound Blaster, C-Media, AMD.
The biggest issues I've had are suspend, some odd ill-docuented wireless ethernet and the odd bluetooth chipset. there are forums to check to help out checking Linux compatibility. Asus laptops generally work well out of the box for Linux as do most dells, toshiba and Fujitsu. MSI has had odd hiccups (needed contrib libraries). Probably a few other smaller manfuacturers.
1. Most games I've tried seems to work with tweaks. PlayOnLinux helps a lot.
2. Actually, a fair amount has been going on. A couple AAA RPG and adventure game making groups started doing release on Linux. Kickstarter had something to with that. And it's been continuing since there.
3. Guessing privacy isn't a real concern, especially with Win 10, but if you you look at the big pictures...you should.
4. There are over 3k games on Steam alone available for Linux. gog.com has 1960 linux running games. Guess that isn't enough for people.
I'm more of an RPG/Adventure gamer myself. but some references:
Are all the latest games going to be available no. Are EA games going to be available for Linux on release? (Do you REALLY want EA's DRM that scans your text/word files?) No. After EA lied about no DRM in DragonAge Volume 1 (discovered a monitoring SERVICE that ran even after the game was off which I disabled manaully...WTH(eck) EA, you said no DRM/controls), I swore off EA's games and read about more intrusive DRM from them since. Big name game developers like Inxile, Obsidian Entertianment, DoubleFine, Red Thread for example, have all done Linux release of their games.
I don't keep track of all the happenings, but I know there were sparse choosings when I first started using Linux. Plus don't forget, tablets are a BIG thing now on Android. That will make porting to Linux quite easy indeed. Unity has made MUCH easier since their platform now works for Linux. Ubisoft and EA won't because their invasive DRM wouldn't work, and would probably be far easier to break on Linux. Anyway, watch the trends, and tablets and phones. Developers are actually making their game streamlined to run on tables as well as consoles in one code base. (sometimes to the games detriment) . Moving 2 ton stones is work but once that momentum gets going, it will be near impossible to stop. I'm pretty sure it's begun.
Easy Peasy in several ways:
1. See if it will run with Wine
2. As more people dump MS Windows games will migrate to MacOS and Linux. Already several console games, even From EA(##!% horrid infectious DRM) have appeared on gog.com(100% DRM free, saw Mirror's Edge there yesterday).
3. If you STILL insist on using M$, you can use VirtualBox or KVM (less user friendly) to run Windows 7 or even Windows 10. This will sandbox your data so at least the OS can't steal your hardware, personal/business/family information and send that to MS data collection central.
4. If you like Steam, they have a TON of games on the Linux native platform
I've been using Linux in several flavors for years and have been VERY happy. There have been odd things with UEFI but in the vast majority of cases I can disable it. Also some flavors have been made compatible with UEFI. Suspend is occasionally a nuisance in a few cases. The developers try to catch up. But, as the market shifts so will motherboard manufacturers in any case. One thing I need to warn people of. The next major of Debian will not support UEFI. (Debian is my personal favorite). they've decided to focus on more core improvements. Perhaps they have heard something we haven't. I've helped kids and adults alike go to LIinux (usually Mint) and 100% of them have been happy with it. So I think you can be too. Anyway, give it a try. and see. If there are problems, report, ask for help. The communities are amazing quick to help. (unlike MS tech support who charges $200/call)
okay, who ever the MS Employee pushing this is. Kindly back off. First, there is NO good reason we want this or anything connected to Windows 10 to succeed because it's basically an information trojan with no respect for privacy (or even pretence of it) for the end user. Second, posting this a second time looks kind of desperate. What we really want people to do is drop the trojan/boated Windows 10 and starting using ElementaryOS or Linux Mint. It's so easy to do folks, and the world at large will thank you. (as MS will have to reconsider it's abuse of the public.)
Okay, it's kind of obvious if you live in a place like a slum, with more disease, more violence and more temptation to use dangerous recreational (or medical drugs for recreational) drug, not to mention more junk food (through lack of education/knowledge + lack of availability of fresh produce), well, duh. Of course people on average will live less. Oh, let's not forget, lower availability of health care services due to lack of money/insurance or even lack nearby hospitals which is also a part of this. The real question is not why certain areas have lower life expectancy, but why we allow these condition to continue to exist. I'm sure many of can easily find the answer, although most of the answers are horribly cynical/pragmatic and don't speak well of us as a society.
And the Great Eye of fire sees all. Come to think of it, this was discussed in the film "The Circle". Not a great film, but it puts these ideas into a realistically scary context. Does this idea of removing choice from whether or not we WANT to be registered concern anyone else?
MS never learns. they are still trying to force feed their browser and are probably going to get slapped by the EU commission and possibly a few others fro anti-trust violatios. Windows 10 S was a real interesting POS. "Get Windows 10 Professional to get default browser change ability". WTF. Time for Linux, unless you are a gamer I guess.
I'm sensing a trend and preference to French here. Personal opinions are fine, but there is the basic fact that the methods are still in English and being objective. manuals are all nice, and the open source community has made great efforts to help there. But as long as the methods and core keywords of accept languages are English, you have to learn a little English. look, I've worked abroad in a couple places teaching ESL for awhile. And French is hardly the best example as there are many words that are similar to English or near cognates you can utilize there, but that is an isolated method. What about, say a language completely incompatible with romance languages. Say, Chinese. (I'd say Japanese but English has been integrated into a lot of common phrases in Japanese since WWII to the point an someone with no Japanese can pick out a few things accurately). The Chinese language is totally alien to English but a Chinese programmer is forced to learn many verbs and object names to program. A translator is likely to get it totally wrong as there are cultural elements to language as well. True Language is not just "grammar-translation" method which is abysmal for teaching communication anyway. It's true that programming keywords won't make someone fluent, but "Hello Word" examples has certainly gotten that basic meaning across. If you can apply your simple word translation in a meaningful way to languages like Chinese, Egyptian, or Swahili, koodos to you. Using the grammar-translation approach to getting keywords in an incompatible language makes it harder to program as you get an incorrect meaning of what it actually means. Sorry if English being important because of the tools is distasteful to you. I've thought about it for years. Bottom line, we have to accept something. And English was there first.
Yes but you had to WRITE the translator first. The base language wasn't changed, you just added a translator to it.If you have to read source code, you are helpless without the tools, or knowing basic English. That is how people get locked into platforms. In any even the world standard is pretty much established. Translators solidify that if anything.
What people may not be aware of, is that computer languages, especially HTML and JavaScript will require people who want to enter the IT field to know at least elementary English. The keywords in HTML tags recognized by all browsers around the word are in English, as is the JavaScript language. While there are some interpreters of compiled languages like C++ in other languages (Chinese for C++ examples exists) the more popular languages have English keyword bases. (see like of non-English based computer languages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...)
since this is the case, any country wanting "in" on the booming IT industry will have to know some basic English. The English speaking community got the core computer programming/formatting languages out first and as usual, first to publish will have more control it long term.
If what we know about ourselves and it not passed to a 3rd party, that is our information. As OUR information, we are not required to use that to incriminate ourselves. It is the burden of law enforcement to get proof. While information SENT is out of the hands of the the accused, knowledge in the MIND of the accused is still their PERSONAL information, compelling people to give what is in their mind sets a DANGEROUS precedent: Why not just skip trials and put electrodes on people's head, or use truth drugs, or any number of methods of coercion techniques used by the Russians and Germans (or even us, unofficially of course at, say Guantanamo Bay)? Forcing the accused to basically give information to incriminate themselves, even for codes to their data, is a slippery slope because people with various motives can say, why stop there?
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First it was networking devices, then there was PC's. :D
Okay, if the Chinese Government required a special version of this Windows to run in their country, then something stinks about it. Like the data collection and invasive controls that windows 10 possessed from the get go. Doctors, Lawyers, Accountants or virtually anyone handling confidential information need to be paying attention. The very use of Windows 10 in their work violates client/patient confidentiality. (as it sends file header + other potential information possibly not revealed yet) to MS and from their to the US Government. IIn the movie "Bridge of Spies" I remember Hank's line to the CIA agent "We are not having this conversation" concerning a spy he was representing.
People may brush this off in the USA but countries in other countries potentially doing international business, scientific research, or many other things may not their information going to a foreign power. We weren't exactly thrilled when NASA emails wound up being copied to China with a simple DNS availability message boost (we have since corrected, THAT was scary). Windows 10 is and has always been a trojan in it's very conception and we all need to say "No". Windows 7 or Linux, possibly Apple (but I'm not sure I trust them with their iron grip policies particularly on their Iphones) are perfectly user friend/usable solutions.
Those In the Medical profession, I know many hospitals/doctors are stuck with Windows-only drivers/software packages but the medical industry is going to have to make some serious choices: either publicly tell the world their information will go the US Government/Microsoft (for possibly sale) or the medical community will have to demand drivers//software versions that are Linux or Mac compatible. Some are staying on Widows 7 for this reason, but MS had is trying to pressure everyone to go to Windows 10 either by withholding critical updates (they did patch XP for the NSA contributed ransomware so clearly some mandates there) or possibly through other means. (remember, they did start by force feeding which got a public stick) There could even be legal implications for lawyers and medical professions that could be violated here. Hopefully we'll start getting the message soon. It's becoming a not so brave new world.
Uh, typo: you mean WGA, right? :D
That would be great, is MS didn't outright LIE about some of their updates. One of the "critical "updates turned out to be an ad server. That was a riot. Problem is, once the source proves untrustworthy, you can't rely on what they say. Question is, can you still rely on their OS? It think we all know the answer to that one.
The problem is that around 30% of MS Updates actually hurt the user, either by introducing "features" that (like Apple) inadvertently or deliberately adding things that are of no benefit to anyone but MS and in many case hurt he users. Windows 10 Basically is capable of hijiacking itself (as per it's design) so it's hard to know what is good and what is not especially MS gives VERY vague descriptions of it's updates as per the new windows 10+ policy to tell users, it's our update, just take it (up the rear end). The sooner we start admiting that we don't in fact NEED MS Windows at this point, the better. Linux anyone?
Okay M$, increasing the frequencies of your "news" articles will not distract anyone from the fact that Windows 10 is a spyware "OS" with features that actually work AGAINST the user. I'm starting to think that MS is spending more time doing PR for this POS OS than development.
This is getting scary. Even the 3rd party components in M$ Window$ is tainted. What's next? keystroke loggers in our browsers. This is why I use open source on my desktop and my phone. If something is there, it's at least easier to find anyone doing nonsense.
Linux in Windows will doubtless leak data through various hooks to the Windows Data collection centre just like Regular Windows 10. I have little confidence in my privacy or security in anything windows 10 related (which is why I do Linux, native)
Have weekly visits to the white house like Google apparently did under the Obama Administration?
Why do I feel like whomever purchase opera in China is looking to install data collectors (aka Trojans) much like MS has done with Windows 10.
Audio works fairly well for me, even on advanced audiophile cards (I like the asus ones). People use mostly Alsa these days although I liked many aspects of the OSS drivers. Supposedly better sound. The cases when I had trouble getting Alsa to work was typically when I tried 3rd party libraries by small contributors that were sometimes in conflict with the mainstream repository libraries and I'd have to tweak them. one reason I recommend Linux Mint is it has a very good chance of running basic sound and graphics out of the box. That said, there may be speciality cards that have issues. Depending on the chipset. Most Windows 10 machines have crap generic sound chips by realtek. Audio process I've used with no issues include Realtek, Asus, Azutech, M-Audio, Sound Blaster, C-Media, AMD.
The biggest issues I've had are suspend, some odd ill-docuented wireless ethernet and the odd bluetooth chipset. there are forums to check to help out checking Linux compatibility. Asus laptops generally work well out of the box for Linux as do most dells, toshiba and Fujitsu. MSI has had odd hiccups (needed contrib libraries). Probably a few other smaller manfuacturers.
What do you consider "essential"?
Uh,,,
1. Most games I've tried seems to work with tweaks. PlayOnLinux helps a lot. 2. Actually, a fair amount has been going on. A couple AAA RPG and adventure game making groups started doing release on Linux. Kickstarter had something to with that. And it's been continuing since there. 3. Guessing privacy isn't a real concern, especially with Win 10, but if you you look at the big pictures...you should. 4. There are over 3k games on Steam alone available for Linux. gog.com has 1960 linux running games. Guess that isn't enough for people.
I'm more of an RPG/Adventure gamer myself. but some references:
http://www.pcworld.com/article...
Are all the latest games going to be available no. Are EA games going to be available for Linux on release? (Do you REALLY want EA's DRM that scans your text/word files?) No. After EA lied about no DRM in DragonAge Volume 1 (discovered a monitoring SERVICE that ran even after the game was off which I disabled manaully...WTH(eck) EA, you said no DRM/controls), I swore off EA's games and read about more intrusive DRM from them since. Big name game developers like Inxile, Obsidian Entertianment, DoubleFine, Red Thread for example, have all done Linux release of their games.
I don't keep track of all the happenings, but I know there were sparse choosings when I first started using Linux. Plus don't forget, tablets are a BIG thing now on Android. That will make porting to Linux quite easy indeed. Unity has made MUCH easier since their platform now works for Linux. Ubisoft and EA won't because their invasive DRM wouldn't work, and would probably be far easier to break on Linux. Anyway, watch the trends, and tablets and phones. Developers are actually making their game streamlined to run on tables as well as consoles in one code base. (sometimes to the games detriment) . Moving 2 ton stones is work but once that momentum gets going, it will be near impossible to stop. I'm pretty sure it's begun.
Easy Peasy in several ways: 1. See if it will run with Wine 2. As more people dump MS Windows games will migrate to MacOS and Linux. Already several console games, even From EA(##!% horrid infectious DRM) have appeared on gog.com(100% DRM free, saw Mirror's Edge there yesterday). 3. If you STILL insist on using M$, you can use VirtualBox or KVM (less user friendly) to run Windows 7 or even Windows 10. This will sandbox your data so at least the OS can't steal your hardware, personal/business/family information and send that to MS data collection central. 4. If you like Steam, they have a TON of games on the Linux native platform I've been using Linux in several flavors for years and have been VERY happy. There have been odd things with UEFI but in the vast majority of cases I can disable it. Also some flavors have been made compatible with UEFI. Suspend is occasionally a nuisance in a few cases. The developers try to catch up. But, as the market shifts so will motherboard manufacturers in any case. One thing I need to warn people of. The next major of Debian will not support UEFI. (Debian is my personal favorite). they've decided to focus on more core improvements. Perhaps they have heard something we haven't. I've helped kids and adults alike go to LIinux (usually Mint) and 100% of them have been happy with it. So I think you can be too. Anyway, give it a try. and see. If there are problems, report, ask for help. The communities are amazing quick to help. (unlike MS tech support who charges $200/call)
okay, who ever the MS Employee pushing this is. Kindly back off. First, there is NO good reason we want this or anything connected to Windows 10 to succeed because it's basically an information trojan with no respect for privacy (or even pretence of it) for the end user. Second, posting this a second time looks kind of desperate. What we really want people to do is drop the trojan/boated Windows 10 and starting using ElementaryOS or Linux Mint. It's so easy to do folks, and the world at large will thank you. (as MS will have to reconsider it's abuse of the public.)
Okay, it's kind of obvious if you live in a place like a slum, with more disease, more violence and more temptation to use dangerous recreational (or medical drugs for recreational) drug, not to mention more junk food (through lack of education/knowledge + lack of availability of fresh produce), well, duh. Of course people on average will live less. Oh, let's not forget, lower availability of health care services due to lack of money/insurance or even lack nearby hospitals which is also a part of this. The real question is not why certain areas have lower life expectancy, but why we allow these condition to continue to exist. I'm sure many of can easily find the answer, although most of the answers are horribly cynical/pragmatic and don't speak well of us as a society.
And the Great Eye of fire sees all. Come to think of it, this was discussed in the film "The Circle". Not a great film, but it puts these ideas into a realistically scary context. Does this idea of removing choice from whether or not we WANT to be registered concern anyone else?
We are talking about that here in Canada as well.
It's not Math: 2 wrongs don't make a right here. ;-)
MS never learns. they are still trying to force feed their browser and are probably going to get slapped by the EU commission and possibly a few others fro anti-trust violatios. Windows 10 S was a real interesting POS. "Get Windows 10 Professional to get default browser change ability". WTF. Time for Linux, unless you are a gamer I guess.
I'm sensing a trend and preference to French here. Personal opinions are fine, but there is the basic fact that the methods are still in English and being objective. manuals are all nice, and the open source community has made great efforts to help there. But as long as the methods and core keywords of accept languages are English, you have to learn a little English. look, I've worked abroad in a couple places teaching ESL for awhile. And French is hardly the best example as there are many words that are similar to English or near cognates you can utilize there, but that is an isolated method. What about, say a language completely incompatible with romance languages. Say, Chinese. (I'd say Japanese but English has been integrated into a lot of common phrases in Japanese since WWII to the point an someone with no Japanese can pick out a few things accurately). The Chinese language is totally alien to English but a Chinese programmer is forced to learn many verbs and object names to program. A translator is likely to get it totally wrong as there are cultural elements to language as well. True Language is not just "grammar-translation" method which is abysmal for teaching communication anyway. It's true that programming keywords won't make someone fluent, but "Hello Word" examples has certainly gotten that basic meaning across. If you can apply your simple word translation in a meaningful way to languages like Chinese, Egyptian, or Swahili, koodos to you. Using the grammar-translation approach to getting keywords in an incompatible language makes it harder to program as you get an incorrect meaning of what it actually means. Sorry if English being important because of the tools is distasteful to you. I've thought about it for years. Bottom line, we have to accept something. And English was there first.
Yes but you had to WRITE the translator first. The base language wasn't changed, you just added a translator to it.If you have to read source code, you are helpless without the tools, or knowing basic English. That is how people get locked into platforms. In any even the world standard is pretty much established. Translators solidify that if anything.
What people may not be aware of, is that computer languages, especially HTML and JavaScript will require people who want to enter the IT field to know at least elementary English. The keywords in HTML tags recognized by all browsers around the word are in English, as is the JavaScript language. While there are some interpreters of compiled languages like C++ in other languages (Chinese for C++ examples exists) the more popular languages have English keyword bases. (see like of non-English based computer languages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...)
since this is the case, any country wanting "in" on the booming IT industry will have to know some basic English. The English speaking community got the core computer programming/formatting languages out first and as usual, first to publish will have more control it long term.
If what we know about ourselves and it not passed to a 3rd party, that is our information. As OUR information, we are not required to use that to incriminate ourselves. It is the burden of law enforcement to get proof. While information SENT is out of the hands of the the accused, knowledge in the MIND of the accused is still their PERSONAL information, compelling people to give what is in their mind sets a DANGEROUS precedent: Why not just skip trials and put electrodes on people's head, or use truth drugs, or any number of methods of coercion techniques used by the Russians and Germans (or even us, unofficially of course at, say Guantanamo Bay)? Forcing the accused to basically give information to incriminate themselves, even for codes to their data, is a slippery slope because people with various motives can say, why stop there?
Netscape wasn't "destroyed". It was reincarnated as Firefox. kind of like the Phoenix. :D