I really think that they feel they have a reason to censor the net for places where most foreigners are going to be hanging out during the Olympics. Most of those places aren't going to have your average Chinese citizen just looking for a way to get around the firewall.
The government cares about their 'face' and they aren't going to want to the rest of the world seeing what they do control. They'll just let those places have access and then after the Olympics, restrict it again.
In America, the Internet was originally designed to be free of choke points, so that each packet of information could be routed quickly around any temporary obstruction. In China, the Internet came with choke points built in. Even now, virtually all Internet contact between China and the rest of the world is routed through a very small number of fiber-optic cables that enter the country at one of three points: the Beijing-Qingdao-Tianjin area in the north, where cables come in from Japan; Shanghai on the central coast, where they also come from Japan; and Guangzhou in the south, where they come from Hong Kong. (A few places in China have Internet service via satellite, but that is both expensive and slow. Other lines run across Central Asia to Russia but carry little traffic.) In late 2006, Internet users in China were reminded just how important these choke points are when a seabed earthquake near Taiwan cut some major cables serving the country. It took months before international transmissions to and from most of China regained even their pre-quake speed, such as it was.
Thus Chinese authorities can easily do something that would be harder in most developed countries: physically monitor all traffic into or out of the country. They do so by installing at each of these few 'international gateways' a device called a 'tapper' or 'network sniffer,' which can mirror every packet of data going in or out. This involves mirroring in both a figurative and a literal sense. 'Mirroring' is the term for normal copying or backup operations, and in this case real though extremely small mirrors are employed. Information travels along fiber-optic cables as little pulses of light, and as these travel through the Chinese gateway routers, numerous tiny mirrors bounce reflections of them to a separate set of 'Golden Shield' computers.Here the term's creepiness is appropriate. As the other routers and servers (short for file servers, which are essentially very large-capacity computers) that make up the Internet do their best to get the packet where it's supposed to go, China's own surveillance computers are looking over the same information to see whether it should be stopped.
Think again of the real importance of the Great Firewall. Does the Chinese government really care if a citizen can look up the Tiananmen Square entry on Wikipedia? Of course not. Anyone who wants that information will get it-by using a proxy server or VPN, by e-mailing to a friend overseas, even by looking at the surprisingly broad array of foreign magazines that arrive, uncensored, in Chinese public libraries.
What the government cares about is making the quest for information just enough of a nuisance that people generally won't bother. Most Chinese people, like most Americans, are interested mainly in their own country. All around them is more information about China and things Chinese than they could possibly take in. The newsstands are bulging with papers and countless glossy magazines. The bookstores are big, well stocked, and full of patrons, and so are the public libraries. Video stores, with pirated versions of anything. Lots of TV channels. And of course the Internet, where sites in Chinese and about China constantly proliferate. When this much is available inside the Great Firewall, why go to the expense and bother, or incur the possible risk, of trying to look outside?
All the technology employed by the Golden Shield, all the marvelous mirrors that help build the Great Firewallâ"these and other modern achievements matter mainly for an old-fashioned and pre-technological reason. By making the search for external information a nuisance, they drive Chinese people back to an environment in which familiar tools of social control come into play.
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/chinese-firewall
So they are going to let certain IPs get anything they want. So it won't even seem like there is a 'Golden Shield' to most foreigners that visit China for the Olympics.
Yeah, I was meaning that after you start the business you have to plan for not getting a size-able return for at least 5 to 10 years. Just a mis-interpretation, no worries.
Leadership is delegation. That is completely true. How often do you find someone who is tech savvy and totally great with people. Not that there aren't many, but those who really know what's best tend to be on the 'I'm going to complain about it, but not get out of my chair to organize a huge campaign to change things' boat. Me being one of them.
You tend to rely on information more from your friends then you do from the guy trying to push money your way.
I know many blogs like this...People are just impatient and expect returns quickly. You have to plan ahead at least 5 to 10 years if you are going to start a business.
I think it forces a little bit more competition. Now I don't just have to go to the Big Boys to be seen. Just because my ad is through ValueClick or some other agency like that, doesn't mean that's it's going to target who I want it to.
In some situations, and with certain types of local ads this would be a good way to increase revenue.
Not that everyone under the Sun who wants to advertise is going to switch to ISP (as there are many situations where ad companies do a much much better job).
Well if I were running a company selling a local football teams T-shirt (or the like), I think that I would rather pay my ISP to target the people directly in my city.
There are already targeted ads like that but Google's ads are relatively unobtrusive (at least I don't think I've clicked on one in say a year or so, not from the search pages anyway), where as it's more difficult for Mom's and pops to ignore that HUGE graphic banner on almost every page that displays their favorite team.
...companies are going to start paying the ISPs to advertise for them instead of companies like Google. They are feeling the heat from losing money on their bandwidth, now they have to think of a new strat. to get the cash flowing.
I for one don't mind this in some cases if it means that they would actually have the funds to hook the rest of the United States up to highspeed.
So you buy the machine, or get one made for you, then you buy the plastic in cartons (or barrels for some of you). Then you print out something, find out it isn't better than the design that came out of the factory (cause let's face it, not everyone knows how to design perfectly the first time). Then you throw it away.
Now seeing as this plastic probably won't be polyhydroxyalkanoate (or some other biodegradable plastic.
Now I could just see our landfills in 20 years when all these Gundam Wing or Sailor Moon models, that just didn't quite work out, start filling it up.
Sure you can probably dl nice working 3D models, because we all know that there is no way that this is going to mess up the printing process....say like your regular printer does now. Right? Right?
Huh.....and I thought he was a dofus all this time! Just goes to show you that anyone in the public spotlight needs to watch their words as if they were a Thai virgin.
I've been overseas for the entire campaign. One thing that I can say is that there was enough news about both of the Democratic candidates, but very little about the Republican candidate.
My co-worker, who is Taiwanese, just loves talking about how great of a job he thinks Obama will do 'when' he gets elected.
It's been a really exciting race I think. For the first time we have both a black and a woman running. That's why they are getting the media coverage. But if the Democrats think that they can win, they'll be in for a big surprise I feel.
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So they give you over 2500mb on your gmail account, then limit you to 100mb for a webpage?? Even blogger doesn't have a limit, only limited functionality.
They should set the the storage space as part of your gmail account. Add a public folder that you could upload pictures or just about any html link, flash file, etc.. and then use that space for your webpage. The only thing about that would be privacy concers (like they don't have enough, but I'm sure they could handle it, not that they would actually have to have the files put into your email box, just take away from your storage limit on what you upload.
I'm not talking about economic closure. I'm talking about exapnsionism closure. Jhong Huh was the last great Chiense explorer. After him, there were none. This is what fueled Western culture to be thrown across the globe. The fact that China just gave up on expansionism. I'm sure if it were the other way around people all over the globe would be using Chinese as the International language. But the fact remains, they stopped exploring, that was their downfall.
Yes, I agree with your points, there is Chinese culture everywhere, but it hadn't become so widespread say, 100 years ago as it is today. While there were still places in the world to colonize, Western civilization was at its peak. The Chinese Empire pretty much put a stop to colonization to pursue National Interests.
Speaking of which, The Chinese don't have as much Nationalism as say an American does. I've seen this first hand. Since Western culture was able to spread nearly everywhere it made it easier for the entire world to accept Western culture. If you look even in the places that hate us the most, their lives are still affected by Western culture at least a little everyday. Now the Chinese are rising as an economic power house and will probably overtake the US say within the next 50 years. But the American culture will still live on, not just American culture but Western culture. The nice thing about Western culture is that we take aspects from other culture and adapt it to our own.
Most restaurants in the US that are Chinese don't serve real Chinese food. It's American Chinese food, not the stuff your mother would make, but not the stuff my mother in law would make either. (She's Chinese) If she ate at an American Chinese restaurant she would probably call it American food.
Back to the point. Now I'm sure that the Chinese would have ruled the world if it wasn't for the little fact that they closed in on themselves. They completely turned their back on the world for pursuit of what? National Interests, well a few bad rulers took care of that. Now since the way world is connected today, the Chinese people can't keep much to themselves anymore. Sure they try, look at Tiananmen Square, they tried their hardest to keep that a secret, did a pretty good job with their own people, too bad there was a Western reporter there at the time. The Chinese feel that it's best to keep things out of the public eye, the complete opposite of Western culture, absolutely everything reported on. Alright, well it's late, I'm ranting, just wanted to make a few points to show what has caused the rapid expansion of Western culture compared to Eastern.
Like my mother always said "It doesn't matter where you start, it matters where you end up." This being the point of my whole argument.
Well we could all find out what part of the world we originated in, but that doesn't matter. The fact is that European culture -Western culture- has spread so much across this globe that it doesn't matter if we were all once black, white, or Asian. Europeans did a good thing to the world by introducing diseases that killed nearly all of the native population that the came in contact with. Yay small pox!
Now lets see, the Chinese develop gun powder, and then use it for what??? Oh yeah fireworks, it took the Europeans to first think of a way to use this for killing people. Hmm, maybe China has started to learn something, look at their current political stance. "Let's try to run the world, since we fucked it up 50,000 years ago."
I've lived in Asia for about the past 2 1/2 years now, and have come to notice that whenever I try to discuss the differences between Western and Eastern culture, I usually get the phrase "Our culture is older than yours. " thrown into my face. And they say Westerners have egos?? I think this will just add more fuel to the fire-the Chinese will believe once again that they are the superior race and commit genocide against all others. Well maybe they won't go that far but the point still remains the same. Just live here a while and you'll know what the hell I'm talking about.
Oh and if i forgot to mention it, wasn't steel first developed in the Western world? Thus allowing all those Polo loving chaps to hack their way through as much flesh and bone as their heart contended?
I know this is off topic..but wasn't it in Revelations that it predicts the mark of the beast.....hmm....I bet the Intelligent Designers are going to point to RFID chips inserted into humans as the mark of the beast, commercialize humanity, get targeted ads when you walk into a store after it reads your personal information from a chip in you ****! Oh yeah, and let Uncle Sam know your a red blooded American, that way he doesn't wiretap your ass to see if you're a terrorist.
I'm sure that the ending, if the movie was ever put into production, would end after the final battle with the buggers. Everyone cheers, Ender is thanked, the human race is saved, and that's the end. Hollywood would not put a movie up that shows that an alien race almost obliterated the human race because of communication problems. If they were to even do anything like that, then they would defiantly have to put the psychological game in there, as it is relevant to then ending of the book. As you recall the buggers tried to communicate with Ender through this game. It was their only for, and as a result of learning his enemy through the game and the vids he watched, he grew to love them.
Any adaptation of the book in order to be a worthy, would have to show how Ender grew to love the buggers, how the felt from watching the vids, his emotional distress while playing the mind game. I think that is one of the most important aspects of the book, more so than the battle room fights. Those could be done in a mock military battle and still be pulled off to show how the children had to co-operate with each other. It would be much better done in 3d of course, but not necessary.
I totally agree with ya'. After playing MMORPG's for hte last few years, buying the new games that came out, just to find they:
1. looked better (sometimes)
2. Didn't really require a lot of skill (slah, hack, run around, and pick stuff up)
3. wasted my money
4. was the same shit in different shit surroundings. Oh some of them you can only fire a gun, and others you get magic attacks.
I personally am a fan of FF series of games, only for the story though.
I woud personnally like to see a ground breaking game come out, something I've never seen before. Don't think that will happen for about another generation though. wait until these kids playing all these games now grow up, that's when we will start getting the new shit.
It's funny that you have to elaborate your statement after it was proven wrong. Then going off and telling me that I didn't do any research, ha! Who cares that YOU- or the mass public for that matter- can't afford it. That's irrelivant to the point. My point was you were wrong.
"and the point remains the same: the blu-ray/HD-DVDs don't have writers yet (elaborated to say: available and affordable to consumers, and widely accepted at THIS point in time),"
Now that you've admited it, you would've been a better person for it. Oh yeah, until you had to open your trap again and "elaborate."
I think it's funny how people elaborate after being proven completley wrong.
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I really think that they feel they have a reason to censor the net for places where most foreigners are going to be hanging out during the Olympics. Most of those places aren't going to have your average Chinese citizen just looking for a way to get around the firewall.
The government cares about their 'face' and they aren't going to want to the rest of the world seeing what they do control. They'll just let those places have access and then after the Olympics, restrict it again.
...I would like to see someone solve it in 21 moves with only their feet.http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=pvXXnT35-70
Yeah, I was meaning that after you start the business you have to plan for not getting a size-able return for at least 5 to 10 years. Just a mis-interpretation, no worries.
You tend to rely on information more from your friends then you do from the guy trying to push money your way.
I know many blogs like this...People are just impatient and expect returns quickly. You have to plan ahead at least 5 to 10 years if you are going to start a business.
I think it forces a little bit more competition. Now I don't just have to go to the Big Boys to be seen. Just because my ad is through ValueClick or some other agency like that, doesn't mean that's it's going to target who I want it to.
In some situations, and with certain types of local ads this would be a good way to increase revenue.
Not that everyone under the Sun who wants to advertise is going to switch to ISP (as there are many situations where ad companies do a much much better job).
Well if I were running a company selling a local football teams T-shirt (or the like), I think that I would rather pay my ISP to target the people directly in my city.
There are already targeted ads like that but Google's ads are relatively unobtrusive (at least I don't think I've clicked on one in say a year or so, not from the search pages anyway), where as it's more difficult for Mom's and pops to ignore that HUGE graphic banner on almost every page that displays their favorite team.
...companies are going to start paying the ISPs to advertise for them instead of companies like Google. They are feeling the heat from losing money on their bandwidth, now they have to think of a new strat. to get the cash flowing.
I for one don't mind this in some cases if it means that they would actually have the funds to hook the rest of the United States up to highspeed.
You could always use Firefox and install the AdBlock Plus extension. http://adblockplus.org/en/
So you buy the machine, or get one made for you, then you buy the plastic in cartons (or barrels for some of you). Then you print out something, find out it isn't better than the design that came out of the factory (cause let's face it, not everyone knows how to design perfectly the first time). Then you throw it away.
Now seeing as this plastic probably won't be polyhydroxyalkanoate (or some other biodegradable plastic.
Now I could just see our landfills in 20 years when all these Gundam Wing or Sailor Moon models, that just didn't quite work out, start filling it up.
Sure you can probably dl nice working 3D models, because we all know that there is no way that this is going to mess up the printing process....say like your regular printer does now. Right? Right?
Huh.....and I thought he was a dofus all this time! Just goes to show you that anyone in the public spotlight needs to watch their words as if they were a Thai virgin.
I've been overseas for the entire campaign. One thing that I can say is that there was enough news about both of the Democratic candidates, but very little about the Republican candidate. My co-worker, who is Taiwanese, just loves talking about how great of a job he thinks Obama will do 'when' he gets elected. It's been a really exciting race I think. For the first time we have both a black and a woman running. That's why they are getting the media coverage. But if the Democrats think that they can win, they'll be in for a big surprise I feel.
IT SLICES, IT DICES, IT TURNS YOU INTO A BORG-THE ALL NEW, EXCITING, ONE OF A KIND 1/8" to RCA CABLE! NOW PLATED ENTIRELY IN PLATINUM TO GIVE YOU THE BEST POSSIBLE SOUND FROM YOU iSUCK AND iSUCK Video. NEVER AGAIN WILL YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO CD'S OR MP3'S OFF OF A DVD DISC, NOW YOU CAN JUST PLUG THIS AMAZING CABLE STRAIGHT INTO YOUR STEREO SYSTEM AND ENJOY THE iSUCK BLISS! ONLY $349.99 FOR A 6'.
So they give you over 2500mb on your gmail account, then limit you to 100mb for a webpage?? Even blogger doesn't have a limit, only limited functionality.
They should set the the storage space as part of your gmail account. Add a public folder that you could upload pictures or just about any html link, flash file, etc.. and then use that space for your webpage. The only thing about that would be privacy concers (like they don't have enough, but I'm sure they could handle it, not that they would actually have to have the files put into your email box, just take away from your storage limit on what you upload.
Good Idea I think.
One machine to Rule Them All. One machine to Find Them. One machine to Bring Them All and In The Darkness Bind Them.
I'm not talking about economic closure. I'm talking about exapnsionism closure. Jhong Huh was the last great Chiense explorer. After him, there were none. This is what fueled Western culture to be thrown across the globe. The fact that China just gave up on expansionism. I'm sure if it were the other way around people all over the globe would be using Chinese as the International language. But the fact remains, they stopped exploring, that was their downfall.
Yes, I agree with your points, there is Chinese culture everywhere, but it hadn't become so widespread say, 100 years ago as it is today. While there were still places in the world to colonize, Western civilization was at its peak. The Chinese Empire pretty much put a stop to colonization to pursue National Interests.
Speaking of which, The Chinese don't have as much Nationalism as say an American does. I've seen this first hand. Since Western culture was able to spread nearly everywhere it made it easier for the entire world to accept Western culture. If you look even in the places that hate us the most, their lives are still affected by Western culture at least a little everyday. Now the Chinese are rising as an economic power house and will probably overtake the US say within the next 50 years. But the American culture will still live on, not just American culture but Western culture. The nice thing about Western culture is that we take aspects from other culture and adapt it to our own.
Most restaurants in the US that are Chinese don't serve real Chinese food. It's American Chinese food, not the stuff your mother would make, but not the stuff my mother in law would make either. (She's Chinese) If she ate at an American Chinese restaurant she would probably call it American food.
Back to the point. Now I'm sure that the Chinese would have ruled the world if it wasn't for the little fact that they closed in on themselves. They completely turned their back on the world for pursuit of what? National Interests, well a few bad rulers took care of that. Now since the way world is connected today, the Chinese people can't keep much to themselves anymore. Sure they try, look at Tiananmen Square, they tried their hardest to keep that a secret, did a pretty good job with their own people, too bad there was a Western reporter there at the time. The Chinese feel that it's best to keep things out of the public eye, the complete opposite of Western culture, absolutely everything reported on. Alright, well it's late, I'm ranting, just wanted to make a few points to show what has caused the rapid expansion of Western culture compared to Eastern.
Like my mother always said "It doesn't matter where you start, it matters where you end up." This being the point of my whole argument.
Well we could all find out what part of the world we originated in, but that doesn't matter. The fact is that European culture -Western culture- has spread so much across this globe that it doesn't matter if we were all once black, white, or Asian. Europeans did a good thing to the world by introducing diseases that killed nearly all of the native population that the came in contact with. Yay small pox! Now lets see, the Chinese develop gun powder, and then use it for what??? Oh yeah fireworks, it took the Europeans to first think of a way to use this for killing people. Hmm, maybe China has started to learn something, look at their current political stance. "Let's try to run the world, since we fucked it up 50,000 years ago."
I've lived in Asia for about the past 2 1/2 years now, and have come to notice that whenever I try to discuss the differences between Western and Eastern culture, I usually get the phrase "Our culture is older than yours. " thrown into my face. And they say Westerners have egos?? I think this will just add more fuel to the fire-the Chinese will believe once again that they are the superior race and commit genocide against all others. Well maybe they won't go that far but the point still remains the same. Just live here a while and you'll know what the hell I'm talking about.
Oh and if i forgot to mention it, wasn't steel first developed in the Western world? Thus allowing all those Polo loving chaps to hack their way through as much flesh and bone as their heart contended?
I know this is off topic..but wasn't it in Revelations that it predicts the mark of the beast.....hmm....I bet the Intelligent Designers are going to point to RFID chips inserted into humans as the mark of the beast, commercialize humanity, get targeted ads when you walk into a store after it reads your personal information from a chip in you ****! Oh yeah, and let Uncle Sam know your a red blooded American, that way he doesn't wiretap your ass to see if you're a terrorist.
I'm sure that the ending, if the movie was ever put into production, would end after the final battle with the buggers. Everyone cheers, Ender is thanked, the human race is saved, and that's the end. Hollywood would not put a movie up that shows that an alien race almost obliterated the human race because of communication problems. If they were to even do anything like that, then they would defiantly have to put the psychological game in there, as it is relevant to then ending of the book.
As you recall the buggers tried to communicate with Ender through this game. It was their only for, and as a result of learning his enemy through the game and the vids he watched, he grew to love them.
Any adaptation of the book in order to be a worthy, would have to show how Ender grew to love the buggers, how the felt from watching the vids, his emotional distress while playing the mind game. I think that is one of the most important aspects of the book, more so than the battle room fights. Those could be done in a mock military battle and still be pulled off to show how the children had to co-operate with each other. It would be much better done in 3d of course, but not necessary.
Is it slash dot, or just some of it's readers?
You, sir, are stupidier than I.
I totally agree with ya'. After playing MMORPG's for hte last few years, buying the new games that came out, just to find they: 1. looked better (sometimes) 2. Didn't really require a lot of skill (slah, hack, run around, and pick stuff up) 3. wasted my money 4. was the same shit in different shit surroundings. Oh some of them you can only fire a gun, and others you get magic attacks. I personally am a fan of FF series of games, only for the story though. I woud personnally like to see a ground breaking game come out, something I've never seen before. Don't think that will happen for about another generation though. wait until these kids playing all these games now grow up, that's when we will start getting the new shit.
It's funny that you have to elaborate your statement after it was proven wrong.
Then going off and telling me that I didn't do any research, ha!
Who cares that YOU- or the mass public for that matter- can't afford it. That's irrelivant to the point.
My point was you were wrong.
"and the point remains the same: the blu-ray/HD-DVDs don't have writers yet (elaborated to say: available and affordable to consumers, and widely accepted at THIS point in time),"
Now that you've admited it, you would've been a better person for it. Oh yeah, until you had to open your trap again and "elaborate."
I think it's funny how people elaborate after being proven completley wrong.
They already have Blu-ray writers out in Japan dumb-ass. They've had tehm for the better part of a year now.