"Are you honestly willing to say that if Macs were 95% exploitable through some hole whose exploitation could be automated and distributed over the internet (just like all the other 'sploit kits script kiddies use), that the platform would remain completely unmolested because there are 'only' a few tens of millions of exploitable systems out there?"
yes. if Mac have 99% of the marekt share like Windows. it will crippled down like Windows but you won't believe it because we will never see it happen.
the underline OS that Apache run on *nix is not targeted like Windows. Thus, Apache have bigger marketshare with less exploits. IIS run on top of Winodws which is targeted by everyone.
you're legally getting pay for the bug that you report. those black market seller and buyer if caught, can face jail time with your new jail mate bubba. you better hope you don't drop your soap during shower.
i don't get it. i read nothing but bitch, cry, moan and beg from Slashdot readers regarding how shitty MS Windows's security is and now MS is stepping up and put more restriction on Windows and now you want to bitch, cry, moan and beg about how unfriendly Windows is. how about read this article http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/01/UAC /default.aspx,see it's not hard to write app that will play nice with Vista, no? typical execuse from OSS fanboys. Do you want Bill Gates to give you bj so you can stop bitch, cry, moan and beg?
wow! how stupid are you? first you said MS pay no taxes now you change your tune and sing MS is not paying enought taxes. holy crap! Can you make up your retarded mind?
Sorry, what do you call 'good' about Microsoft's software/hardware exactly?
like you say, MS doesn't work for you but it work for others. Now onto the OP's point.
he stated that MS gain all their marketshare by marketing. i stated it is not correct and there are software/products made by MS that is worth paying for. you don't like MS software. Go use OSS. There are many alternatives but MS didn't gain marketshare based on MARKETING OR BUSINESS TATICS. If that's the case, Zune should be the number one seller or IE7 should gain back the marketshare. People are not stupid. People will pay for what work for them and what doesn't.
your arugment are all based on your personal expereinces. that's fine. MS doesn't work for you but it does for a lot of people. You even admit that " honestly don't care what other companies use, that's upto them to make the choice that best benefits them." so those companies/people who purchased MS software because they all believe in marketing, right?
No point aruging any further. You clearly lost your arguments. MARKETING have nothing to do with MS's success.
it's clear to me that all your counter arguments are based on your own personal experiences. I'm pretty sure there are less than 1% of companies use Gnucash.(i'm talking about business fiance but you clearly missed that).
how much marketshare do MS have when they started gaming console? how much marketshare do MS have now within only two generations? what's gp2x's marketshare? did MS magically gain all the marketshare by marketing? Gamers are even more harder to please than software users but hey, MS are full of marketing droid, right? MS doesn't really make stuffs that's worth paying for, right? how come Zune didn't knock-out ipod since MS's marketing and business tatics work wonder.
whatever, i'm done here. You Sir is a typical Slashdot/OSS zealot. No mater what i say, you will just dimiss it even when MS does have good software/hardware.
Cannot open my old MS Office documents Cannot open my files stored in odt Does not run on Linux natively
basically, you are bitching about not open.doc that were created in Office 97 and Office doesn't run on Linux. that's fine and dandy and obviously you didn't use much of Office's features. Go with OOo. There is no point for you to use Office.
I do not care about quantity, I care about quality There is only one Windows game (Freelancer) that I care about that doesn't run under Wine yet Most of the applications on windows I had, were to add features like 'always on top' to all Windows. I don't need this under KDE.
humm...so not able to run Quickbook that every accounts use is because you care about quality. how disconnect are you from reality?
Look at Novell's solutions.
and it's a piece of shit compare to Exhcange.
I haven't actually seen it used anywhere yet.
so the world is according to you now and if you didn't see it used. it must mean shit, right?
Yeah, as if I'm going to play a subscription to play games that I've already bought, on hardware I already bought, on a internet connection I already paid for, on a server *I* am hosting. I prefer the Wii.
this is even more retarded. so don't fucking play on Xbox live then and do you even remeber what we are arguing about? the OP said everything MS put out are craps. how about Xbox? it put MS on the map within only two generation and it even outsold Wii. Where's the OSS game console that was so buzzed during dotcom era?
I don't know how disconnected you are from the reality but the FACT to the matter is MS have some shits and they also have great software. bitching, moaning and crying about how MS got where they are based on marketing is pure FUD.
i'll keep on using MS software that work great and you can keep living in your mom's basement.
MS Office (OOo is nowhere near as useful as Office) Windows (linux is nowhere near as useful as Windows and the amount of apps/game that it can run) Exchange Sharepoint.Net Xbox 360...etc.
such blanket statement to lump all MS's marketshare on MS's marketing or business tatic success. if that's the case, Zune should outsold ipod and yet it is not.
A BIG ASS Dialog that pop up and ask you to click on agree BUTTON in order to install or are you so FUCKING RETARDED that you didn't bother to read the BIG ASS DIALOG. STUPID! You can click on cancle and it will go away. It is not forced to anyone.
oh but the sad fact is Mac is now running on the same Pento as Windows except the difference is OS. so, let's have a look at the OS.
1. Windows run 100% of the apps out on the market that include business apps that OS X won't run. 2. you're full of shits about spyware/virus. if you have any decent AV in place, you won't have virus problem and you can use the free Windows Defender for spyware or spybot SA. 3. how's DRM bad for business? As a owner you want control over your documents. you do not want your employees without the proper rights to access your business info. at will. 4. you sounded like a 15yrs old who whine, cry and moan about shits that you doesn't know. me think you want to fit in with the cool kids aka slashdot OSS zealots or the Mac fanboyz but you sounded as lame as they are.
You're so full of shits. I subscripted to Windows OneCare for AV and use Windows Defender for spyware protection and never have any virus/spyware problem and at work we have TrendMicro AV in place. If you know what you are doing, there is no such thing as the yearly clean up as you clam. i feel sorry for your customers who got a OSS zealot to service their computing need.
You Sir are full of shits and it amazed the fuckout of me that you are able to bullshit your way into IT.
dude, the guy in the arctile clearly doesn't know WTF he is doing. if Linux zealots want to win a tard such as him over. that's good but don't declare a victory when the tard in the article didn't really solve the problem.
"It'll change. Maybe not now, but soon." - same old shit
1999 the year of Linux desktop 2000 the year of Linux desktop 2001 the year of Linux desktop 2002 the year of Linux desktop 2003 the year of Linux desktop 2004 the year of Linux desktop 2005 the year of Linux desktop 2006 the year of Linux desktop...and so on but never happen.
beside crying, moaning, bitching and chanting about Microsoft monopoly...etc. Do you have anything to add that will make Linux gain more marketshare?
WalMart used to sell linux based sub $400 computer, Dell also sell linux based computer..etc. People want Windows. you can put the blame on OEM all you want but OEM only sell what people want. It is like drug. Are you trying to blame the dope dealer for not selling linux or the junkies who are hooked on Windows? Why don't you try to do something about this and break 'em both?
that's like saying school is not responsible for your kids and yet million of working mom and dad will take the first blow at teachers and the school for their perfect littel angle's fuckup.
MS should support Win2000, no matter how old Win2000 is? Do Apple still support Apple II?
"The simple answer is that Apple is not only illegal, but unethical. I do not blame them. But sadly, too many fools make the choice about where a program runs and will back Apple only rather than thinking long term."
i've checked the Apple stroe. what equivalent MacBook Pro are you talking about? you either get less ram or no LCD with Apple Mac. Do you care to post the link that can show me Mac Pro is not overpriced or are you just farting here?
woah! what a flaming gheytard that you are. how about the fact that Windows just work for the vast majority? they don't need to dick around with linux.
uh...like you don't give a big chunk of money to Sony/Nintendo for your PS3/Wii games and Sony/Nintendo still retain the final approval and deman their pound 'O fleash.
Why am i even bothering to reply? this is Slashdot where we must bash on every MS news/product.
oh, please. STFU already. $99 is about the cost 2 of any PS3/Wii/360 games. if MS give their product away, you'll be crying like a little girl about how MS is abusing their powers.
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"Are you honestly willing to say that if Macs were 95% exploitable through some hole whose exploitation could be automated and distributed over the internet (just like all the other 'sploit kits script kiddies use), that the platform would remain completely unmolested because there are 'only' a few tens of millions of exploitable systems out there?"
yes. if Mac have 99% of the marekt share like Windows. it will crippled down like Windows but you won't believe it because we will never see it happen.
the underline OS that Apache run on *nix is not targeted like Windows. Thus, Apache have bigger marketshare with less exploits. IIS run on top of Winodws which is targeted by everyone.
also, paypal make shitload of money from the 180 days hold period gernerated interests.
you're legally getting pay for the bug that you report. those black market seller and buyer if caught, can face jail time with your new jail mate bubba. you better hope you don't drop your soap during shower.
i don't get it. i read nothing but bitch, cry, moan and beg from Slashdot readers regarding how shitty MS Windows's security is and now MS is stepping up and put more restriction on Windows and now you want to bitch, cry, moan and beg about how unfriendly Windows is. how about read this article http://msdn.microsoft.com/msdnmag/issues/07/01/UAC /default.aspx ,see it's not hard to write app that will play nice with Vista, no? typical execuse from OSS fanboys. Do you want Bill Gates to give you bj so you can stop bitch, cry, moan and beg?
wow! how stupid are you? first you said MS pay no taxes now you change your tune and sing MS is not paying enought taxes. holy crap! Can you make up your retarded mind?
Sorry, what do you call 'good' about Microsoft's software/hardware exactly?
like you say, MS doesn't work for you but it work for others. Now onto the OP's point.
he stated that MS gain all their marketshare by marketing. i stated it is not correct and there are software/products made by MS that is worth paying for. you don't like MS software. Go use OSS. There are many alternatives but MS didn't gain marketshare based on MARKETING OR BUSINESS TATICS. If that's the case, Zune should be the number one seller or IE7 should gain back the marketshare. People are not stupid. People will pay for what work for them and what doesn't.
your arugment are all based on your personal expereinces. that's fine. MS doesn't work for you but it does for a lot of people. You even admit that " honestly don't care what other companies use, that's upto them to make the choice that best benefits them." so those companies/people who purchased MS software because they all believe in marketing, right?
No point aruging any further. You clearly lost your arguments. MARKETING have nothing to do with MS's success.
it's clear to me that all your counter arguments are based on your own personal experiences. I'm pretty sure there are less than 1% of companies use Gnucash.(i'm talking about business fiance but you clearly missed that).
how much marketshare do MS have when they started gaming console? how much marketshare do MS have now within only two generations? what's gp2x's marketshare? did MS magically gain all the marketshare by marketing? Gamers are even more harder to please than software users but hey, MS are full of marketing droid, right? MS doesn't really make stuffs that's worth paying for, right? how come Zune didn't knock-out ipod since MS's marketing and business tatics work wonder.
whatever, i'm done here. You Sir is a typical Slashdot/OSS zealot. No mater what i say, you will just dimiss it even when MS does have good software/hardware.
Cannot open my old MS Office documents
.doc that were created in Office 97 and Office doesn't run on Linux. that's fine and dandy and obviously you didn't use much of Office's features. Go with OOo. There is no point for you to use Office.
Cannot open my files stored in odt
Does not run on Linux natively
basically, you are bitching about not open
I do not care about quantity, I care about quality
There is only one Windows game (Freelancer) that I care about that doesn't run under Wine yet
Most of the applications on windows I had, were to add features like 'always on top' to all Windows. I don't need this under KDE.
humm...so not able to run Quickbook that every accounts use is because you care about quality. how disconnect are you from reality?
Look at Novell's solutions.
and it's a piece of shit compare to Exhcange.
I haven't actually seen it used anywhere yet.
so the world is according to you now and if you didn't see it used. it must mean shit, right?
Yeah, as if I'm going to play a subscription to play games that I've already bought, on hardware I already bought, on a internet connection I already paid for, on a server *I* am hosting. I prefer the Wii.
this is even more retarded. so don't fucking play on Xbox live then and do you even remeber what we are arguing about? the OP said everything MS put out are craps. how about Xbox? it put MS on the map within only two generation and it even outsold Wii. Where's the OSS game console that was so buzzed during dotcom era?
I don't know how disconnected you are from the reality but the FACT to the matter is MS have some shits and they also have great software. bitching, moaning and crying about how MS got where they are based on marketing is pure FUD.
i'll keep on using MS software that work great and you can keep living in your mom's basement.
MS Office (OOo is nowhere near as useful as Office) .Net ...etc.
Windows (linux is nowhere near as useful as Windows and the amount of apps/game that it can run)
Exchange
Sharepoint
Xbox 360
such blanket statement to lump all MS's marketshare on MS's marketing or business tatic success. if that's the case, Zune should outsold ipod and yet it is not.
You Sir are a tool!
A BIG ASS Dialog that pop up and ask you to click on agree BUTTON in order to install or are you so FUCKING RETARDED that you didn't bother to read the BIG ASS DIALOG. STUPID! You can click on cancle and it will go away. It is not forced to anyone.
oh but the sad fact is Mac is now running on the same Pento as Windows except the difference is OS. so, let's have a look at the OS.
1. Windows run 100% of the apps out on the market that include business apps that OS X won't run.
2. you're full of shits about spyware/virus. if you have any decent AV in place, you won't have virus problem and you can use the free Windows Defender for spyware or spybot SA.
3. how's DRM bad for business? As a owner you want control over your documents. you do not want your employees without the proper rights to access your business info. at will.
4. you sounded like a 15yrs old who whine, cry and moan about shits that you doesn't know. me think you want to fit in with the cool kids aka slashdot OSS zealots or the Mac fanboyz but you sounded as lame as they are.
You're so full of shits. I subscripted to Windows OneCare for AV and use Windows Defender for spyware protection and never have any virus/spyware problem and at work we have TrendMicro AV in place. If you know what you are doing, there is no such thing as the yearly clean up as you clam. i feel sorry for your customers who got a OSS zealot to service their computing need.
You Sir are full of shits and it amazed the fuckout of me that you are able to bullshit your way into IT.
the new Office UI is there to avoid the rip off from OpenOffice.
Go blackmail! b.s. is flying out of that school.
dude, the guy in the arctile clearly doesn't know WTF he is doing. if Linux zealots want to win a tard such as him over. that's good but don't declare a victory when the tard in the article didn't really solve the problem.
Notes/Domino is not from OSS camp. Where's OSS offering. None!
"It'll change. Maybe not now, but soon." - same old shit
1999 the year of Linux desktop
2000 the year of Linux desktop
2001 the year of Linux desktop
2002 the year of Linux desktop
2003 the year of Linux desktop
2004 the year of Linux desktop
2005 the year of Linux desktop
2006 the year of Linux desktop...and so on but never happen.
beside crying, moaning, bitching and chanting about Microsoft monopoly...etc. Do you have anything to add that will make Linux gain more marketshare?
same old bullshit from OSS as well.
excuse! excuse! excuse! excuse! excuse! excuse!
WalMart used to sell linux based sub $400 computer, Dell also sell linux based computer..etc. People want Windows. you can put the blame on OEM all you want but OEM only sell what people want. It is like drug. Are you trying to blame the dope dealer for not selling linux or the junkies who are hooked on Windows? Why don't you try to do something about this and break 'em both?
that's like saying school is not responsible for your kids and yet million of working mom and dad will take the first blow at teachers and the school for their perfect littel angle's fuckup.
you Sir need a nice pie of STFU!
MS should support Win2000, no matter how old Win2000 is? Do Apple still support Apple II?
"The simple answer is that Apple is not only illegal, but unethical. I do not blame them. But sadly, too many fools make the choice about where a program runs and will back Apple only rather than thinking long term."
You Sir = Tool!
It doesn't matter if you have it in huge red font. they will ingorne, install and call you for support. Don't kid yourself.
i've checked the Apple stroe. what equivalent MacBook Pro are you talking about? you either get less ram or no LCD with Apple Mac. Do you care to post the link that can show me Mac Pro is not overpriced or are you just farting here?
woah! what a flaming gheytard that you are. how about the fact that Windows just work for the vast majority? they don't need to dick around with linux.
uh...like you don't give a big chunk of money to Sony/Nintendo for your PS3/Wii games and Sony/Nintendo still retain the final approval and deman their pound 'O fleash.
Why am i even bothering to reply? this is Slashdot where we must bash on every MS news/product.
oh, please. STFU already. $99 is about the cost 2 of any PS3/Wii/360 games. if MS give their product away, you'll be crying like a little girl about how MS is abusing their powers.