That 35th world ranking for maths for the USA is now looking like nirvana.
US kids are going to end up with the IQ of an (intelligently designed) potato.
I now understand WHY Trump is going to bring back the manufacturing jobs, the average US school leaver will not be qualified to do anything else. All the jobs that will require smart people will be done in Asia, all the work that requires someone who knows which end of a shovel to hold will be in the USA. China and the USA are about to swap positions. And at the rate the US citizens are giving up their "freedom" because they are frightened of terrorists, that swap may come sooner than anyone realises.
LOL.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
"leader of the free world"..... maybe last year, but not any more.
There was no such thing as computers in schools when I went through.
What we had was rugby, tennis, swimming, building huts in the bush, making dams in the stream, board games, out on horses with a.22 shooting rabbits, fishing, i.e. exploring the physical world.
We had Mechano, hammer and nails, marbles, knuckle bones, books, lots and lots of books, chemistry set, making electromagnets from scrap wire, piano practice, "tanks" made from cotton reels, making models using mould and plaster of paris, tie dying t-shirts, cycling down the local hill using my mums best sheets to act as a parachute to stop us at the bottom (yea got the belt for that one).
We climbed the frames of houses and sheds under construction (my dad was a builder), pulled apart fireworks and made bigger ones to blow up holes in the creek bank.
We walked and cycled to friends houses to play.
I did not see a computer (TRS-80 model 1) until I started working. And it would be true of most of my generation, and yet they went on to create most of what we know now.
I watched the moon landing, and in my 50's got the USA and the Kennedy space centre to see a Saturn V.
Its NOT the computer that was important in our lives, it was the ability and encouragement to explore the world around us, to make us curious that was the important thing.
And today I service scientific instruments, doing electronics , electromechanics, etc.
If they are going to teach a "language" at this level is should be French, German, Chinese, Spanish etc etc.
These are the years where natural language processing develops as well as fine motor skills. Its where the brain learns about distance, and the physics of the world, i.e. throwing a ball to hit a target, jumping over things, etc etc etc
From natural language comes social integration, developing the understanding of acceptable behaviour , team work, sharing, play, friends, etc etc.
When kids hit 10 or so they should have enough of a grasp of language, mathematics, 3d space, geometry, numbers, size , abstract ideas and hopefully the start of critical thinking of being able to analyse a situation and make some sense of it.
THIS is when CS should start, when their brains are able to actually deal with the concepts in a meaningful way.
ANYTHING a preschooler learns about computers will be irrelevant by the time they are adults, however the social skills and natural language skills they develop are there for life.
Peoples abilities develop in a certain order (for the majority) and if we want to optimise their learning experience and understanding we MUST work in with Nature.
This "teach CS at preschool" has nothing to do with learning, its all about money, those that make the curriculum and the resources will make a lot of money until the ideology looses out to reality. They know in advance the idea is stupid and will be a failure, but who cares the money is whats important.
Irrelevant, Facebook still builds a profile, still tracks you and still updates its information about you.
Hell I bet they even know what you look like, all it requires is someone you know who is on Facebook to upload photos with you in it.
From there they can start doing a process of elimination.
Because they look at the sites you visit they can tell your gender (50% reduction in the unknown just with that item)
Age, race, religion, political ideology, income, and where you live are also discernible with enough data. And its not just the data they get from Facebook , they will have scraped data from phone directories and other public facing databases, they would also have paid for other information from other sources such as store loyalty cards, frequent flyer lists, etc etc etc etc etc.
They also "sell" that information,based on their data are you currently looking at going on a holiday, those web sites can then bump up the prices slightly because they too know your income, etc.
And not once have you ever had a Facebook account.
If you think simply not having a Facebook account is all it takes then flying is just the art of aiming at the ground and missing.
So that ends up including Health, Education, Military, Law and Order, etc etc. Worse is that governments end up dictating software to the private entities, for example if all government documents had to be in Latex or Open Office formats, private businesses would move over to that software accommodate the governments needs. Why do you think Microsoft works so hard to keep governments using their software ?
According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), 2,220,300 adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons, and county jails in 2013 – about 0.91% of adults (1 in 110) in the U.S. resident population.[2] Additionally, 4,751,400 adults in 2013 (1 in 51) were on probation or on parole.[2] In total, 6,899,000 adults were under correctional supervision (probation, parole, jail, or prison) in 2013 – about 2.8% of adults (1 in 35) in the U.S. resident population
ROTFLMAO, this from a country that has about 1% of its adult population in prison. You have the highest prison population (per 100,000) in the world.
Worse, is those prisons are often work camps, you either work making stuff that makes the owners money or you go to solitary.
You have children sent to Juvi for disrupting class.
Never mind all the "back ops" sites where you can detain people without charge , with access to lawyers, etc etc indefinitely.
The USA is a saturated market for most things, the growth potential in the USA is low and the population of the USA is about 4% of the worlds population.
Asia is where the real growth is and Asia contains about 60% of the worlds population.
If Trump goes down the trade war route, he is going to find US companies get locked out of Asia as well as other parts of the world.
US companies if the wish to grow are going to have to abandon "USA culture", the rest of the world wants their culture and cultural values to be represented and presented to them.
If the government actually wanted to protect "people" they would be:
Tightening up on Medical procedures, Death by medical misadventure kills hundreds of thousands in the US each year.
Tightening up on motor vehicle safety and driver safety which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on pollution which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on sugar which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on Gun control which kills about 15,000 a year
etc etc etc then we get to
Provide better protection against lightening strikes which kills more US people than terrorism
Provide better protection against shark attacks which kills more US people than terrorism
Provide better protection against tipping vending machines which kills more US people than terrorism
The security theatre has zero to do with making US citizens safer, it is simply part of the system where by they over hype the problem, offer a solution and use that to actually remove peoples rights to freedom and privacy.
Scared people will listen and obey anyone who seems to offer a solution that will make them "safe" , even when that means giving up their rights.
People are stupid.
The "position" of POTUS is important and has respect around the world by other world leaders
The current holder of that position though has no respect from any of those world leaders.
The longer we laugh, the louder we laugh, the less respect there will be for the both the person and the position.
Where was the backdoor to encryption installed and used ?
We all know criminals can't possibly be caught without being able to browse through someones phone.
There were how many houses in the area ?, how many of their computers were hacked into, how many web cams were compromised ?
See, the true facts are missing, I call this BS.
Maybe 20-30 years ago cops could have done this, but they did not have access to modern technology or techniques...sloppy...just sloppy
This is what we get when decisions are made using fear and paranoia...... stupidity.
So, for the Australian MPs, please go and ask the Brits how the IRA was able to function as a terrorist group before the age of the internet and encryption.
Please also google "Numbers stations"
Now think real slow here (OK, you are Politicians this part should come naturally to you), if you have a back door, and it gets discovered (which it eventually will by good luck, mismanagement , bad actor, or shear stupidity), how is the end result any different than terrorists getting the Nuclear bomb codes ?
This is such a monumentally stupid idea that any government official who thinks it is a good idea should be take out the back and shot for treason.
Are you going to give the codes to every government ?
Explain to me if not why not. Are you going to tell me that Jewish lives are worth less than Australian lives ?
Now that you have announced that your future encryption is faulty, please explain why every other government and citizen will not use a different more secure encryption. Oh, "we will make a law".... yeah that works so bloody well for murder, rape, assault, theft, etc etc etc... FFS you can't even get drugs off the street or kiddie porn off the internet or stop priests from sodomising choir boys.
Or perhaps Australian politicians are so bloody racist that they believe only white people can do this stuff ?
So, all you are going to achieve is to put every citizens information at risk for no effing benefit.
And THAT is why you should be taken out and shot for treason, you have put at risk all of your citizens for zero benefit.
So a pirated music file is worth tens of thousands of dollars, but a persons confidential medical history is worth $1.43
wow.....just effing wow.
And here is the funny part, the $110 million is probably considered a tax deductible expense, so the victims are in effect paying themselves a portion of the compensation.
Seems this is true.
Being in power is not so you can punish the poor, its to ensure the rich don't get punished.
Yep.
I was told the only secure computer is one that is never turned on, never connected to a network, and sits in a safe where no one has access to it.
Anything else, is just slowing things down, not prevention.
If something can be exploited, it will eventually be exploited. All it will take is a lazy user who thinks the USB stick in his pocket will be OK to use "this once" and be wrong.
What if I go unconscious in my $80,000 car? Perhaps I have a heart attack, stroke, or simply had an unexplained fainting spell. So the car just beeps at me uselessly until it drives into something? Might as well use a traditional car, set it to cruise at 75 mph and take a nap because the end result will be the same.
Try it, let me know how you get on when you meet the first corner.
ZOMG....what happens if the same thing happens to you when you cross a street, you could get run over and be dead twice.
Slashdot Mirror
ROTFLMAO
That 35th world ranking for maths for the USA is now looking like nirvana.
US kids are going to end up with the IQ of an (intelligently designed) potato.
I now understand WHY Trump is going to bring back the manufacturing jobs, the average US school leaver will not be qualified to do anything else. All the jobs that will require smart people will be done in Asia, all the work that requires someone who knows which end of a shovel to hold will be in the USA. China and the USA are about to swap positions. And at the rate the US citizens are giving up their "freedom" because they are frightened of terrorists, that swap may come sooner than anyone realises.
LOL.....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
"leader of the free world"..... maybe last year, but not any more.
There was no such thing as computers in schools when I went through.
.22 shooting rabbits, fishing, i.e. exploring the physical world.
What we had was rugby, tennis, swimming, building huts in the bush, making dams in the stream, board games, out on horses with a
We had Mechano, hammer and nails, marbles, knuckle bones, books, lots and lots of books, chemistry set, making electromagnets from scrap wire, piano practice, "tanks" made from cotton reels, making models using mould and plaster of paris, tie dying t-shirts, cycling down the local hill using my mums best sheets to act as a parachute to stop us at the bottom (yea got the belt for that one).
We climbed the frames of houses and sheds under construction (my dad was a builder), pulled apart fireworks and made bigger ones to blow up holes in the creek bank.
We walked and cycled to friends houses to play.
I did not see a computer (TRS-80 model 1) until I started working. And it would be true of most of my generation, and yet they went on to create most of what we know now.
I watched the moon landing, and in my 50's got the USA and the Kennedy space centre to see a Saturn V.
Its NOT the computer that was important in our lives, it was the ability and encouragement to explore the world around us, to make us curious that was the important thing.
And today I service scientific instruments, doing electronics , electromechanics, etc.
All valid learning is useful (to a greater or less extent)
The point I am making is that appropriate learning which matches the development of the brain is the most productive and cost effective.
And Bach was writing music by that age too.
so what
The majority of kids are better off without CS at that age.
If they are going to teach a "language" at this level is should be French, German, Chinese, Spanish etc etc .
These are the years where natural language processing develops as well as fine motor skills. Its where the brain learns about distance, and the physics of the world, i.e. throwing a ball to hit a target, jumping over things, etc etc etc
From natural language comes social integration, developing the understanding of acceptable behaviour , team work, sharing, play, friends, etc etc.
When kids hit 10 or so they should have enough of a grasp of language, mathematics, 3d space, geometry, numbers, size , abstract ideas and hopefully the start of critical thinking of being able to analyse a situation and make some sense of it.
THIS is when CS should start, when their brains are able to actually deal with the concepts in a meaningful way.
ANYTHING a preschooler learns about computers will be irrelevant by the time they are adults, however the social skills and natural language skills they develop are there for life.
Peoples abilities develop in a certain order (for the majority) and if we want to optimise their learning experience and understanding we MUST work in with Nature.
This "teach CS at preschool" has nothing to do with learning, its all about money, those that make the curriculum and the resources will make a lot of money until the ideology looses out to reality. They know in advance the idea is stupid and will be a failure, but who cares the money is whats important.
Irrelevant, Facebook still builds a profile, still tracks you and still updates its information about you.
Hell I bet they even know what you look like, all it requires is someone you know who is on Facebook to upload photos with you in it.
From there they can start doing a process of elimination.
Because they look at the sites you visit they can tell your gender (50% reduction in the unknown just with that item)
Age, race, religion, political ideology, income, and where you live are also discernible with enough data. And its not just the data they get from Facebook , they will have scraped data from phone directories and other public facing databases, they would also have paid for other information from other sources such as store loyalty cards, frequent flyer lists, etc etc etc etc etc.
They also "sell" that information,based on their data are you currently looking at going on a holiday, those web sites can then bump up the prices slightly because they too know your income, etc.
And not once have you ever had a Facebook account.
If you think simply not having a Facebook account is all it takes then flying is just the art of aiming at the ground and missing.
Again, all other countries do the same.
So that ends up including Health, Education, Military, Law and Order, etc etc. Worse is that governments end up dictating software to the private entities, for example if all government documents had to be in Latex or Open Office formats, private businesses would move over to that software accommodate the governments needs. Why do you think Microsoft works so hard to keep governments using their software ?
So its not as simple as you make out.
The same argument then applied to every country who buys anything FROM the USA.
There is over US$2 Trillion in exports to be put at risk by other countries doing the same.
Does the USA really want to be locked out of 80% of the worlds economy and 94% of the worlds customers ?
Is that you Donald ????
Lets see....this could take days to work though all the facts and references you supplied..... oh wait, no you didn't.
And you posted as an Anonymous Coward, I guess no one can be surprised there either.
Of course NZ also beat the USA in the Americas Cup... Hell the "US Team" was basically Australians.
Just accept, a small country at the arse end of the world with only 4 Million people is able to do things extremely well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
According to the US Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), 2,220,300 adults were incarcerated in US federal and state prisons, and county jails in 2013 – about 0.91% of adults (1 in 110) in the U.S. resident population.[2] Additionally, 4,751,400 adults in 2013 (1 in 51) were on probation or on parole.[2] In total, 6,899,000 adults were under correctional supervision (probation, parole, jail, or prison) in 2013 – about 2.8% of adults (1 in 35) in the U.S. resident population
ROTFLMAO, this from a country that has about 1% of its adult population in prison. You have the highest prison population (per 100,000) in the world.
Worse, is those prisons are often work camps, you either work making stuff that makes the owners money or you go to solitary.
You have children sent to Juvi for disrupting class.
Never mind all the "back ops" sites where you can detain people without charge , with access to lawyers, etc etc indefinitely.
Clean up your own mess.
Well what they DON"T want is US culture and cultural values forced onto them.
And Trump is slowly making the USA and its culture a laughing stock around the world, that is when he's not just being repugnant.
The USA is a saturated market for most things, the growth potential in the USA is low and the population of the USA is about 4% of the worlds population.
Asia is where the real growth is and Asia contains about 60% of the worlds population.
If Trump goes down the trade war route, he is going to find US companies get locked out of Asia as well as other parts of the world.
US companies if the wish to grow are going to have to abandon "USA culture", the rest of the world wants their culture and cultural values to be represented and presented to them.
If the government actually wanted to protect "people" they would be:
.
Tightening up on Medical procedures, Death by medical misadventure kills hundreds of thousands in the US each year.
Tightening up on motor vehicle safety and driver safety which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on pollution which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on sugar which kills tens of thousands in the US each year
Tightening up on Gun control which kills about 15,000 a year
etc etc etc then we get to
Provide better protection against lightening strikes which kills more US people than terrorism
Provide better protection against shark attacks which kills more US people than terrorism
Provide better protection against tipping vending machines which kills more US people than terrorism
The security theatre has zero to do with making US citizens safer, it is simply part of the system where by they over hype the problem, offer a solution and use that to actually remove peoples rights to freedom and privacy
Scared people will listen and obey anyone who seems to offer a solution that will make them "safe" , even when that means giving up their rights.
People are stupid.
The "position" of POTUS is important and has respect around the world by other world leaders
The current holder of that position though has no respect from any of those world leaders.
The longer we laugh, the louder we laugh, the less respect there will be for the both the person and the position.
Well they need to get somethings in place well before the mid term elections to ensure the "donations" are made into the election fund.
Just imagine if this was on one of their submarines and someone opened a Window while they were submerged. Talk about a crash dive.
Mind you, this is from the same country that bought you flammable warships during the Falklands war.
This can't be true.
Where was the backdoor to encryption installed and used ?
We all know criminals can't possibly be caught without being able to browse through someones phone.
There were how many houses in the area ?, how many of their computers were hacked into, how many web cams were compromised ?
See, the true facts are missing, I call this BS.
Maybe 20-30 years ago cops could have done this, but they did not have access to modern technology or techniques...sloppy...just sloppy
Irrelevant, that is the part about being found guilty.
Once they have been found guilty is costs a damn sight more than $1.43 for a music file.
The justice system is no longer blind, its seriously skewed towards benefitting the rich.
This is what we get when decisions are made using fear and paranoia...... stupidity.
So, for the Australian MPs, please go and ask the Brits how the IRA was able to function as a terrorist group before the age of the internet and encryption. Please also google "Numbers stations"
Now think real slow here (OK, you are Politicians this part should come naturally to you), if you have a back door, and it gets discovered (which it eventually will by good luck, mismanagement , bad actor, or shear stupidity), how is the end result any different than terrorists getting the Nuclear bomb codes ?
This is such a monumentally stupid idea that any government official who thinks it is a good idea should be take out the back and shot for treason.
Are you going to give the codes to every government ?
Explain to me if not why not. Are you going to tell me that Jewish lives are worth less than Australian lives ?
Now that you have announced that your future encryption is faulty, please explain why every other government and citizen will not use a different more secure encryption. Oh, "we will make a law".... yeah that works so bloody well for murder, rape, assault, theft, etc etc etc... FFS you can't even get drugs off the street or kiddie porn off the internet or stop priests from sodomising choir boys.
Or perhaps Australian politicians are so bloody racist that they believe only white people can do this stuff ?
So, all you are going to achieve is to put every citizens information at risk for no effing benefit.
And THAT is why you should be taken out and shot for treason, you have put at risk all of your citizens for zero benefit.
So a pirated music file is worth tens of thousands of dollars, but a persons confidential medical history is worth $1.43
wow.....just effing wow.
And here is the funny part, the $110 million is probably considered a tax deductible expense, so the victims are in effect paying themselves a portion of the compensation.
Seems this is true.
Being in power is not so you can punish the poor, its to ensure the rich don't get punished.
Yep.
I was told the only secure computer is one that is never turned on, never connected to a network, and sits in a safe where no one has access to it.
Anything else, is just slowing things down, not prevention.
If something can be exploited, it will eventually be exploited. All it will take is a lazy user who thinks the USB stick in his pocket will be OK to use "this once" and be wrong.
What if I go unconscious in my $80,000 car? Perhaps I have a heart attack, stroke, or simply had an unexplained fainting spell. So the car just beeps at me uselessly until it drives into something? Might as well use a traditional car, set it to cruise at 75 mph and take a nap because the end result will be the same.
Try it, let me know how you get on when you meet the first corner. ZOMG....what happens if the same thing happens to you when you cross a street, you could get run over and be dead twice.
Even a "smart car" is still not smarter than a stupid person.
No matter how much Knight Rider you watch, AI is no where close to this.
Anyone who thinks they should be able to give up their responsibility to a "smart car" should give up their licence and walk.