The first computer I ever saw was a TRS-80 M1 that had cassette tape only, I played backgammon on it.
My first computer I owned was a Dick Smith System-80 (TRS-80 M1 clone) that I then upgraded to 48K of RAM, still with cassette only. 20 minutes to load "asylum"
Got a genuine TRS-80 M3 after that, the joys of 1200 baud cassettes....lol.
My first computer with Floppies was an Amstrad PCW8256. I also owned a Kaypro 4. Ahh the joys of CPM 2.2 and CPM 3
I now own about 400 old computers ranging from Casio calculator style through to a PDP11-23.
"Have you ever noticed how we judge a persons intelligence based on how closely their opinions coincide with yours."
That pretty much covers it.
If someone writes something that reinforces someones opinions, no matter how wrong it is in reality, it will always be judged as well written, well sourced and fair.
So don't get grumpy when H1B workers take over your job.
If you are going to reduce Tesla workers to just another expense the employer is allowed to minimise, then IT workers are the same and if they can source them from other countries or shift the jobs to other countries why shouldn't they able to do that.....oh wait I see what you did, that only applies to OTHER people.
Maybe Apple is going to get into the t-shirt business so Trump can fill the shops in his golf courses and hotels with stuff made in the USA instead of China.
The shirts will come in
Trump hands, small, regular , big, bigly, biglier, and bigliest
In the USA, the NSA will install it for you, and they will "update" your encryption so there is another master key...... just in case you loose yours.
Yes, I am being sarcastic, but 20 years ago who would have believed that this is close to being the truth.
The fraction supplied will however be carefully culled to put the best light on the FCC plan.
All that time "selecting" that few leaves no time to supply everything.
So we are definitely going to need the Gun Emoji , perhaps a missile and nuke Emoji too.
Perhaps a gravestone Emoji with "Byte the Dust" would be appropriate too.
Terrorism is the excuse, not the reason
The reason is so those in power can snoop on the population and control the population.
A quick read about "numbers stations" shows how information can be broadcast but the recipients can not be traced.
A conversation with the Brits about how the IRA were able to operate for decades without computers and encryption would also be enlightening.
And of course people have something to hide, a high flying lawyer who like to dress in women clothes at night, a gay footballer who is not "out", a politician who visits prostitutes, a bored housewife on Tinder, a family whose children may have different fathers, an abused wife who has a secret bank account, there are thousands of legitimate reasons for privacy and security.
If any of these people became an activist, the dirt the government gathers will allow them control.
I am happy to carry around limited cash, i.e. maybe a hundred dollars , and thats typically when I am travelling. However in the UK,EU and US we found larger denominations were checked for forgeries, often by a supervisor, that it became the slowest way to pay for anything, or if you stuck to smaller notes they were simply bulky.
At home I use plastic, "tap-n-go" its quick, its reliable, it also means I don't have to carry coins which are even more bulky and heavy than notes.
Its less "security" than "convenience" for using cards.
So long as the rich can buy food thats OK, poor people have nothing to loose anyway, thats why they are poor.
So long as it is only poor people who become extinct thats OK, again thats ok because who wants to be poor.
Most humans will get bored relatively quickly. Sure SOME will spend their time playing computer games or watching porn but most others will want to do something that has meaning. Some may even commit suicide because of that boredom.
Look at all the people who volunteer, the people who still work in retirement (when they dont have to).
A UBI will mean one parent will be able to afford to stay home with the kids, help with school trips, etc which will be good for the kids.
A UBI means humanity can get back to its roots of community, helping one another. I see the UBI strengthening community bonds, reducing crime.
And history is full of people who "don't care" and who were removed from their position of privilege by the poor using force.
we celebrate disruptive technologies , e.g. MP3 player vs tape/CD. Well we are about to enter a disruptive economic period whey the old economics and wealth and privilege values are about to get removed too. The people making old tech fought against their replacement, but they still lost.
People in poverty:
1. have more illnesses which cost more money
2. have more need of social service, which costs more money
3. are more likely to be involved in the justice system (crimes, etc) which costs more money
4. keeping people in prison cost 5-6 times the cost of any benefit each year.
5. People in poverty are more likely to have children who will also be in poverty
And I am just suggesting that at different ages the kids would benefit MORE by learning/doing other things that match their physical and intellectual development rather than doing CS.
Will they learn CS at age 3, yes, but that age is where real language skills develop, children 3-8 will find it easier to learn a 2nd/3rd language at that age than any other, and having a 2nd language is shown to have life long benefits.
Yes there are always exceptions, but that does not mean your rules should apply to everyone.
With large groups of people the best you can apply is generalisations, the specific only apply to an individual.
Young children are effectively programmed to imitate their parents, to seek praise from their parents, learned behaviour is a vital survival tactic. So if you have a strong interest in IT and CS then its natural for your child to also take an interest.
But look at the people who have made a huge difference in IT and CS, people like Jobs, Wozniak, Tim Berners-Lee , Kunth, Linus Torvalds, etc etc etc, none of them would have had access to any IT/CS when they were young.
The most important thing for children is to work with how they are developing, expose them to as wide a variety of ideas and points of view appropriate to their age. The broader that experience is the better they will be able to deal with new concepts. Get children to read, it improves language skills, vocabulary , knowledge of facts and ideas, the broader range of reading a child does the better, and by that I mean fiction, sci-fi, fantasy, westerns, thriller, mystery,and non-fiction, technology, art, poetry, science, history, music.
Beethoven publish his first compositions before age 12
Mozart's first composition was age 5
There are others who have produced in other fields, painting, mathematics, physics, languages, yes CS too, however these are all exceptions, not the rule.
But teaching CS to preschoolers is a waste of time, they should be learning social skills, course and fine motor skills, etc etc etc
And I stick with my age 10, for the majority of kids that is when they should have the skills, knowledge and thinking skills to get the most benefit from CS.
So, the age I was talking about is close to being the same as yours. you said 9, I said 10, neither age is preschool
Before that the kids are far better of learning the things their developing minds should be learning, and its not CS.
The first computer I used was a TRS-80 Model 1 , and that was after I had left school, and the people who initially developed home computers, the internet, cellphones and all the wonderful tech we have today would all be older than me.
Steve Wozniak is 66
Steve Jobs would have been 62
Linus Torvalds is 47
Donald Knuth is 79
Tim Berners-Lee is 62
Slashdot Mirror
The first computer I ever saw was a TRS-80 M1 that had cassette tape only, I played backgammon on it.
My first computer I owned was a Dick Smith System-80 (TRS-80 M1 clone) that I then upgraded to 48K of RAM, still with cassette only. 20 minutes to load "asylum"
Got a genuine TRS-80 M3 after that, the joys of 1200 baud cassettes....lol.
My first computer with Floppies was an Amstrad PCW8256. I also owned a Kaypro 4. Ahh the joys of CPM 2.2 and CPM 3
I now own about 400 old computers ranging from Casio calculator style through to a PDP11-23.
"Have you ever noticed how we judge a persons intelligence based on how closely their opinions coincide with yours."
That pretty much covers it.
If someone writes something that reinforces someones opinions, no matter how wrong it is in reality, it will always be judged as well written, well sourced and fair.
So don't get grumpy when H1B workers take over your job. If you are going to reduce Tesla workers to just another expense the employer is allowed to minimise, then IT workers are the same and if they can source them from other countries or shift the jobs to other countries why shouldn't they able to do that.....oh wait I see what you did, that only applies to OTHER people.
How can a US Jury indict someone ?
Surely even in the US indict mean "arrest and charge", so I am not sure how a jury can be involved.
In a trial, yeah sure have a jury, but before a trial ???
Correct.
Maybe Apple is going to get into the t-shirt business so Trump can fill the shops in his golf courses and hotels with stuff made in the USA instead of China.
The shirts will come in
Trump hands, small, regular , big, bigly, biglier, and bigliest
Correlation does not imply causation.
In the USA, the NSA will install it for you, and they will "update" your encryption so there is another master key...... just in case you loose yours. Yes, I am being sarcastic, but 20 years ago who would have believed that this is close to being the truth.
The fraction supplied will however be carefully culled to put the best light on the FCC plan. All that time "selecting" that few leaves no time to supply everything.
So we are definitely going to need the Gun Emoji , perhaps a missile and nuke Emoji too.
Perhaps a gravestone Emoji with "Byte the Dust" would be appropriate too.
Terrorism is the excuse, not the reason
The reason is so those in power can snoop on the population and control the population.
A quick read about "numbers stations" shows how information can be broadcast but the recipients can not be traced.
A conversation with the Brits about how the IRA were able to operate for decades without computers and encryption would also be enlightening.
And of course people have something to hide, a high flying lawyer who like to dress in women clothes at night, a gay footballer who is not "out", a politician who visits prostitutes, a bored housewife on Tinder, a family whose children may have different fathers, an abused wife who has a secret bank account, there are thousands of legitimate reasons for privacy and security.
If any of these people became an activist, the dirt the government gathers will allow them control.
Hey old Media , meet the disruption.
I am happy to carry around limited cash, i.e. maybe a hundred dollars , and thats typically when I am travelling. However in the UK,EU and US we found larger denominations were checked for forgeries, often by a supervisor, that it became the slowest way to pay for anything, or if you stuck to smaller notes they were simply bulky.
At home I use plastic, "tap-n-go" its quick, its reliable, it also means I don't have to carry coins which are even more bulky and heavy than notes.
Its less "security" than "convenience" for using cards.
The golden rule states "he who has the gold writes the rules"
Yep Facebook and Messenger will get permanently deleted from my phone the first spam they send.
So long as the rich can buy food thats OK, poor people have nothing to loose anyway, thats why they are poor.
So long as it is only poor people who become extinct thats OK, again thats ok because who wants to be poor.
So, no problems, lets drill some more oil
Its a product that no one actually needs, its not going to make any real material improvement into people lives.
Sure some gamers will love it, but they are not the other 99% of the population.
Its right up there with 3D TV, Curved Screens, and other hyped up technology that failed because no one actually wanted it.
People in power have got some mates who are only just billionaires so what they really need is large sums of tax payers money thrown their way.
Most humans are NOT lazy.
Most humans will get bored relatively quickly. Sure SOME will spend their time playing computer games or watching porn but most others will want to do something that has meaning. Some may even commit suicide because of that boredom.
Look at all the people who volunteer, the people who still work in retirement (when they dont have to).
A UBI will mean one parent will be able to afford to stay home with the kids, help with school trips, etc which will be good for the kids.
A UBI means humanity can get back to its roots of community, helping one another. I see the UBI strengthening community bonds, reducing crime.
> Don't care.
The don't argue against UBI on economic grounds.
And history is full of people who "don't care" and who were removed from their position of privilege by the poor using force.
we celebrate disruptive technologies , e.g. MP3 player vs tape/CD. Well we are about to enter a disruptive economic period whey the old economics and wealth and privilege values are about to get removed too. The people making old tech fought against their replacement, but they still lost.
Likewise the accountants job is going to be replaced, and the lawyers job.
People in poverty:
1. have more illnesses which cost more money
2. have more need of social service, which costs more money
3. are more likely to be involved in the justice system (crimes, etc) which costs more money
4. keeping people in prison cost 5-6 times the cost of any benefit each year.
5. People in poverty are more likely to have children who will also be in poverty
The economics just don't stack up.
And I am just suggesting that at different ages the kids would benefit MORE by learning/doing other things that match their physical and intellectual development rather than doing CS.
Will they learn CS at age 3, yes, but that age is where real language skills develop, children 3-8 will find it easier to learn a 2nd/3rd language at that age than any other, and having a 2nd language is shown to have life long benefits.
Yes there are always exceptions, but that does not mean your rules should apply to everyone.
With large groups of people the best you can apply is generalisations, the specific only apply to an individual.
Young children are effectively programmed to imitate their parents, to seek praise from their parents, learned behaviour is a vital survival tactic. So if you have a strong interest in IT and CS then its natural for your child to also take an interest.
But look at the people who have made a huge difference in IT and CS, people like Jobs, Wozniak, Tim Berners-Lee , Kunth, Linus Torvalds, etc etc etc, none of them would have had access to any IT/CS when they were young.
The most important thing for children is to work with how they are developing, expose them to as wide a variety of ideas and points of view appropriate to their age. The broader that experience is the better they will be able to deal with new concepts. Get children to read, it improves language skills, vocabulary , knowledge of facts and ideas, the broader range of reading a child does the better, and by that I mean fiction, sci-fi, fantasy, westerns, thriller, mystery,and non-fiction, technology, art, poetry, science, history, music.
Beethoven publish his first compositions before age 12
Mozart's first composition was age 5
There are others who have produced in other fields, painting, mathematics, physics, languages, yes CS too, however these are all exceptions, not the rule.
But teaching CS to preschoolers is a waste of time, they should be learning social skills, course and fine motor skills, etc etc etc
And I stick with my age 10, for the majority of kids that is when they should have the skills, knowledge and thinking skills to get the most benefit from CS.
So, the age I was talking about is close to being the same as yours. you said 9, I said 10, neither age is preschool
Before that the kids are far better of learning the things their developing minds should be learning, and its not CS.
The first computer I used was a TRS-80 Model 1 , and that was after I had left school, and the people who initially developed home computers, the internet, cellphones and all the wonderful tech we have today would all be older than me.
Steve Wozniak is 66
Steve Jobs would have been 62
Linus Torvalds is 47
Donald Knuth is 79
Tim Berners-Lee is 62