I never said it was bad or useless...in fact, I said I thought it was a good idea, just not the browser for me.
Honestly, I don't see Flock as being a particularly good browser for Joe Sixpack. I'd have to spend more time playing with it than I care to invest to be sure of that, but from what I read it strikes me as being a niche browser that will primarily appeal to those people who read the specs, understand them, and think "I could use this!".
Seriously, though...I have been water intoxicated once before. I recognized it for what it was and quit drinking water. You know that dry feeling you get in the back of your throat sometimes when you're thirsty? You get that, and no matter how much water you drink, it never goes away. Couple that with mildly-impaired judgement and you get someone who keeps drinking water until their brain literally cannot function.
Sounds like a Firefox browser that integrates a half-dozen third-party plugins to me.
Yes, folks, *most* of the functions I've read about so far on their site exist in some form as FF plugins. I think what they're doing is nifty...except that I have no use for it. The overhyped buzzword Web 2.0 is all about social networking, and frankly I just don't do much of that online any more. I'm too busy networking away from the internet to care about flickr and myspace.
It happens when you consume enough water that your neurons can actually swell and distort, causing interrupted communication. A side effect of it is that you feel thirsty...which is what causes people to die of it.
Wine, Cygwin, and all the rest have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of TFA.
Samba is just an implementation of SMB for Linux. It's one example of what happens when BOTH SIDES play to existing standards. OSS taking credit for that is like Microsoft (or Apple) taking credit for the GUI elements we see today.
VNC is the same. It was developed by a company and adopted by OSS. Then people come along later and claim that OSS is responsible for the technologies.
I call those one-way adaptations that primarily either make Windows software work on Linux, or Windows connect to a Linux server. It's not true interoperability.
I doubt MS will make good on the lip service we're reading about, but I think OSS needs to take it seriously so that when MS blows it, OSS gets to take the high ground and say "we gave it our best, and they dropped the ball."
This has been painfully obvious to us non-fanboys for a long time. Neither camp has made any significant effort in making their systems truly interoperable, and blame goes both ways. Microsoft has a clear profit motive here (by making *nix and MS products work together better, it makes their systems viable in more environments), but the fact that they're reaching out should be incentive enough for the OSS community to respond in kind. This sort of cooperation is never a bad thing.
I'm only saying that there are unobtrusive ways to insert advertisements that can be perfectly relevant to the game environment. I was more responding to the handful of "no advertising" posts than to TFA.
No, you're not. Obviously, SA isn't podcasting. But the MP3 format has existed for...what? Nine years? I've been downloading "podcasts" by various people for maybe seven years.
Audio compression, streaming audio, and portable digital music players all existed long before the iPod. I'm getting tired of everything getting iThis or PodThat stuck to it as if Apple invented it all.
The iPod is like the Sony Walkman: it's not the first, it's just the first to make it big.
While I agree with you that this is FUD, it bears pointing out that most kids who get their hands on such things get them from their parents or another family member.
That said, I do sympathize with the parents who are begginb for bills like this because they can't get retailers to cooperate. They're trying to raise their kids without the rest of the world making it easy for those kids to get their hands on things they may not be mature enough to see.
There aren't a lot of places left in the 'States where you can see the sky without much ligh pollution. The only place I've found is in the western desert camping one night.
Best place in the world for stargazing: the middle of the Pacific.
I live in a town of just 7,000 people, and the light pollution is so bad that the majority of stars aren't visible (yes I know the vast majority of stars in the universe are never visible, but you all know what I mean). For about fifty miles in any given direction of most major metro areas, only a few stars can be seen. I've only seen the night sky as it used to look a handful of times. It's interesting now to watch people who have never seen in person just how many stars should be visible.
As far as I am concerned, anyone who says that Linux is "harder" to use really means that they can't take 5 minutes to read a man page or use google.
Linux is harder to learn, not to use. It relies on command line a good bit...which isn't a bad thing, but it does make the OS far less intuitive compared to the "use GUI or die" approach that MS has taken.
Man pages are sometimes convoluted, too technical for a Linux noob, or just downright poorly written. I've given up on a task more than once because the man page was intolerable and Google failed to yeild any useful results.
The advantage MS has over Linux in the server arena is that there seems to be a lot less to memorize. If I forget how to do something in Windows, I can click through tabs until I see the setting I'm looking for. If I want to take the "click it until I get it right" approach, I can resolve most problems by trial and error in a fraction of the time it would take me to look up a solution to a Linux problem and implement it. I guess in that sense, Linux is harder to use...if you don't know exactly what it is you want to do or where to find out how to do it.
Let's go with an example: Say someone wants to set up a basic Linux file server. All they want is a base installation with whatever they need to share files and administer those shares. They'll get around to learning the rest of the OS later, they have a practical purpose in mind for Linux and want to implement that now, not in a month after they learn the OS well enough to competently install and configure it. Can you find something that would help a person with that? I sure can't.
(troll) Silence. Your sensibilities offend the Slashdot drones. (/troll)
I'm a Windows admin. It's what I know, and the only OS I have significant experience with. At my last job, the server with the most uptime was a RHEL3 box that only got rebooted when the ERP database performed its semi-annual crash ritual. Compare that to the four W2k3 boxes that were down about five or six days a year on average for various OS maintenance issues (in Microsoft's defense, we were *doing* a lot more with the Win servers, the Linux server only had one function)
Linux is a hard OS to administer without training. It's not something you can just dive into, and a lot of admins get it shoved on them because upper management decides on a software package that requires it. The result? Downtime because the admin is unfamiliar with Linux and doesn't know where to find the answers. So in that sense, this report is spot-on.
I do question the validity of the data, though. It seems like they picked a sample set that would yeild the results they wanted. A better survey would be to review servers with similar functions, regardless of whether users have both installed. It's no secret that Windows admins have a harder time with Linux and I agree something needs to be done to help them (us) take the plunge with confidence...but this study isn't going to have any impact on anything and was just a waste of someone's money. If they're looking to throw cash away, they should be throwing it at me, not studies.
I guess someone's been playing with Garry's Mod...but do these people know that? The pic of two CTs hanging two terrorists is funny to me, but might alarm non-gamers and give the wrong impression of gamers and games.
They should start the article with "If 'LEEEEEEROY JENKINS' means anything to you, we've got the cure for what ails you."
Three episodes adds up to the price of a full game, and if they deliver the same amount ot content I don't see where there's a significant difference. Though I suppose a story that takes 20 hours to tell is a lot more interesting and engrossing to me than three stories that take 6-7 hours to tell. But episodic content allows them to finish, test, and deliver content faster, meaning that I have something new to play with more frequently rather than waiting 2+ years between releases from them.
I guess I'm gonna have to get Ep 1 after I reinstall Windows (blowing away a bad partition scheme after 4 years of tolerating my own stupidity, yay) to find out if it's worth the money.
...along with it came unskippable material, poorly designed menus, unexplainable disc read errors, terrible points for scene and title (I don't understand why TV show DVDs often refuse to organize each episode under a title and break the episode up into scenes).
There's a lot that's annoyed me about DVD, and I think you just touched on all of them.
There's nothing like a DVD that takes two minutes to start because you have to watch an unskippable preview, an FBI warning, and a useless thirty-second menu intro. EVERY TIME.
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I never said it was bad or useless...in fact, I said I thought it was a good idea, just not the browser for me.
Honestly, I don't see Flock as being a particularly good browser for Joe Sixpack. I'd have to spend more time playing with it than I care to invest to be sure of that, but from what I read it strikes me as being a niche browser that will primarily appeal to those people who read the specs, understand them, and think "I could use this!".
Did I really post that much this week? Wow.
And btw...6 posts a day, considering the typical brevity of my posts, takes all of fifteen minutes.
Oh my...you may be on to something!
Seriously, though...I have been water intoxicated once before. I recognized it for what it was and quit drinking water. You know that dry feeling you get in the back of your throat sometimes when you're thirsty? You get that, and no matter how much water you drink, it never goes away. Couple that with mildly-impaired judgement and you get someone who keeps drinking water until their brain literally cannot function.
Sounds like a Firefox browser that integrates a half-dozen third-party plugins to me.
Yes, folks, *most* of the functions I've read about so far on their site exist in some form as FF plugins. I think what they're doing is nifty...except that I have no use for it. The overhyped buzzword Web 2.0 is all about social networking, and frankly I just don't do much of that online any more. I'm too busy networking away from the internet to care about flickr and myspace.
Just to add to the two previous posts:
Ever heard of water intoxication?
It happens when you consume enough water that your neurons can actually swell and distort, causing interrupted communication. A side effect of it is that you feel thirsty...which is what causes people to die of it.
(at least, that's how I've heard it explained)
Seems to me the Texan got it right.
You obviously don't know the same private school graduates I do :)
Wine, Cygwin, and all the rest have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of TFA.
Samba is just an implementation of SMB for Linux. It's one example of what happens when BOTH SIDES play to existing standards. OSS taking credit for that is like Microsoft (or Apple) taking credit for the GUI elements we see today.
VNC is the same. It was developed by a company and adopted by OSS. Then people come along later and claim that OSS is responsible for the technologies.
I call those one-way adaptations that primarily either make Windows software work on Linux, or Windows connect to a Linux server. It's not true interoperability. I doubt MS will make good on the lip service we're reading about, but I think OSS needs to take it seriously so that when MS blows it, OSS gets to take the high ground and say "we gave it our best, and they dropped the ball."
This has been painfully obvious to us non-fanboys for a long time. Neither camp has made any significant effort in making their systems truly interoperable, and blame goes both ways. Microsoft has a clear profit motive here (by making *nix and MS products work together better, it makes their systems viable in more environments), but the fact that they're reaching out should be incentive enough for the OSS community to respond in kind. This sort of cooperation is never a bad thing.
I'm only saying that there are unobtrusive ways to insert advertisements that can be perfectly relevant to the game environment. I was more responding to the handful of "no advertising" posts than to TFA.
The infamous CounterSubway incident is a perfect example of what not to do.
Remember all those drink cans in Half-Life 2? Would you have cared if half of them were Coca-Cola?
Wouldn't it just add to the surreal atmosphere of a post-apocalyptic game if you were to see a dusty billboard advertising something common today?
Any that will execute JS, from the look of it.
FireFox + NoScript for the win.
...or any of the other MP3 players that existed prior to the iPod? Or any of the myriad programs that replay compressed audio, like WinAmp?
Why does the late-comer iPod get the credit?
No, you're not. Obviously, SA isn't podcasting. But the MP3 format has existed for...what? Nine years? I've been downloading "podcasts" by various people for maybe seven years.
Audio compression, streaming audio, and portable digital music players all existed long before the iPod. I'm getting tired of everything getting iThis or PodThat stuck to it as if Apple invented it all.
The iPod is like the Sony Walkman: it's not the first, it's just the first to make it big.
What irks me more is that all of a sudden "streaming audio" is "podcasting", as if the iPod had anything to do with its inception.
:D
Besides, let's face it...the majority of it is people talking about stuff they know nothing about.
Oh...no wonder you get modded down
(/obligatory poke at slashdot posters)
And what about when the console is the family's PC that the kids use for schoolwork on a daily basis?
The lines aren't as defined as you think.
While I agree with you that this is FUD, it bears pointing out that most kids who get their hands on such things get them from their parents or another family member.
That said, I do sympathize with the parents who are begginb for bills like this because they can't get retailers to cooperate. They're trying to raise their kids without the rest of the world making it easy for those kids to get their hands on things they may not be mature enough to see.
There aren't a lot of places left in the 'States where you can see the sky without much ligh pollution. The only place I've found is in the western desert camping one night.
Best place in the world for stargazing: the middle of the Pacific.
I live in a town of just 7,000 people, and the light pollution is so bad that the majority of stars aren't visible (yes I know the vast majority of stars in the universe are never visible, but you all know what I mean). For about fifty miles in any given direction of most major metro areas, only a few stars can be seen. I've only seen the night sky as it used to look a handful of times. It's interesting now to watch people who have never seen in person just how many stars should be visible.
As far as I am concerned, anyone who says that Linux is "harder" to use really means that they can't take 5 minutes to read a man page or use google.
Linux is harder to learn, not to use. It relies on command line a good bit...which isn't a bad thing, but it does make the OS far less intuitive compared to the "use GUI or die" approach that MS has taken.
Man pages are sometimes convoluted, too technical for a Linux noob, or just downright poorly written. I've given up on a task more than once because the man page was intolerable and Google failed to yeild any useful results.
The advantage MS has over Linux in the server arena is that there seems to be a lot less to memorize. If I forget how to do something in Windows, I can click through tabs until I see the setting I'm looking for. If I want to take the "click it until I get it right" approach, I can resolve most problems by trial and error in a fraction of the time it would take me to look up a solution to a Linux problem and implement it. I guess in that sense, Linux is harder to use...if you don't know exactly what it is you want to do or where to find out how to do it.
Let's go with an example: Say someone wants to set up a basic Linux file server. All they want is a base installation with whatever they need to share files and administer those shares. They'll get around to learning the rest of the OS later, they have a practical purpose in mind for Linux and want to implement that now, not in a month after they learn the OS well enough to competently install and configure it. Can you find something that would help a person with that? I sure can't.
(troll) Silence. Your sensibilities offend the Slashdot drones. (/troll)
I'm a Windows admin. It's what I know, and the only OS I have significant experience with. At my last job, the server with the most uptime was a RHEL3 box that only got rebooted when the ERP database performed its semi-annual crash ritual. Compare that to the four W2k3 boxes that were down about five or six days a year on average for various OS maintenance issues (in Microsoft's defense, we were *doing* a lot more with the Win servers, the Linux server only had one function)
Linux is a hard OS to administer without training. It's not something you can just dive into, and a lot of admins get it shoved on them because upper management decides on a software package that requires it. The result? Downtime because the admin is unfamiliar with Linux and doesn't know where to find the answers. So in that sense, this report is spot-on.
I do question the validity of the data, though. It seems like they picked a sample set that would yeild the results they wanted. A better survey would be to review servers with similar functions, regardless of whether users have both installed. It's no secret that Windows admins have a harder time with Linux and I agree something needs to be done to help them (us) take the plunge with confidence...but this study isn't going to have any impact on anything and was just a waste of someone's money. If they're looking to throw cash away, they should be throwing it at me, not studies.
I guess someone's been playing with Garry's Mod...but do these people know that? The pic of two CTs hanging two terrorists is funny to me, but might alarm non-gamers and give the wrong impression of gamers and games.
They should start the article with "If 'LEEEEEEROY JENKINS' means anything to you, we've got the cure for what ails you."
...whether I like episodic content or not.
Three episodes adds up to the price of a full game, and if they deliver the same amount ot content I don't see where there's a significant difference. Though I suppose a story that takes 20 hours to tell is a lot more interesting and engrossing to me than three stories that take 6-7 hours to tell. But episodic content allows them to finish, test, and deliver content faster, meaning that I have something new to play with more frequently rather than waiting 2+ years between releases from them.
I guess I'm gonna have to get Ep 1 after I reinstall Windows (blowing away a bad partition scheme after 4 years of tolerating my own stupidity, yay) to find out if it's worth the money.
...along with it came unskippable material, poorly designed menus, unexplainable disc read errors, terrible points for scene and title (I don't understand why TV show DVDs often refuse to organize each episode under a title and break the episode up into scenes).
There's a lot that's annoyed me about DVD, and I think you just touched on all of them.
There's nothing like a DVD that takes two minutes to start because you have to watch an unskippable preview, an FBI warning, and a useless thirty-second menu intro. EVERY TIME.