While Descent is great game, I love espesially Descent2 and Descent3, multiplayer modes aren't that great and falls bit short. But in right kind of map and with right people it's _a lot_ of fun. I'd love to see Descent IV to popup by the way.:P
While I agree that Street Fighter is important but take a look when we last saw "a new" street fighter game on any gaming platform? (Do not include re-makes) well there haven't been one at least for seven years.
Instead, Mortal Kombat, the series probably more people people know these days is the game that popularized this genre and helped for example games like Street Fighter to sell.
I'd say Mortal Kombat is more important on this catagory that Street Fighter. To accurate I'am talking about Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat III
Risc prosessors are harder to program, they are expensive to manufacture and.. and.. and...
Althought there are lots of good point in RISC instruction set it's got also problems. There ain't perfect prosessor you are looking into. Everything I have seen has at least two bad points againt three good ones.
What makes this thread interesting is that while Vista will not be running on todays most modern computers well, it will give some idea of what lies ahead in future. I'v tested Vista RTM for three times the 30 days testing perioid, and they always end up the same. Computer Working rating is lower than 2. It should be more than 8. My computer is: Amd Athlon64 3500+ 2,2ghz, fx5700ultra and 1gb of dual channel 400mhz memory. I consider it to be avarage level modern computer, it's not the fastest but something that is normal consumer computer at home these days.
Vista is bitching slow in some tasks, it seems to be more unstable than XP in some ways and less compatible than XP in many ways. It also has highly annoying UI. But one good thing I can tell you about way's of vista: It's still the best windows release we might ever get. Why? Because it introduces us a lot of new things which can change some attitudes towards Windows.
Don't forget that while Developer kits for OS/2 cost a lot of money, Windows developer kits where given for free. So what happened because of this was that while Windows supported more newer hardware than OS/2 and was more multimedia oriented than Os/2 battle over consumers was lost.
There are lots of similar thoughts of OS/2 but we have to remember that it's still used in nuclear plants and banks because of it's "security" and "stability". (Note: I inserted borrowings because I cannot be sure. I am pretty sure of that OS/2 Warp4.5 has lots of unspoken security related problems.)
It's the time line between 1988 and 1990 which hold the fate of Os/2. It was so close that we would be running now a IBM OS/III: XP or IBM OS/IV: Vista instead of Microsoft Windows. I accuse IBM for bitching their fabulous system into trash can.
Let's start demanding Linux client for WOW. When there are enough us Blizzard has to make one for us. I am not tolerating that MAC OSX is having a client but similar system Linux is not. Porting WOW to Unix has already been made of. Who fuck needs support for that software as long as it works fine.
Maybe there is need to challenge Microsoft lawyers again in court. Vista prices are like extremely over priced generally. There is no point in Home Basic since it's missing important features like A.E.R.O. And somehow Ultimate doesn't offer anything special for the price point it ships. Expect huge discounts in future. When Ultimate comes with $200 price tag I think it will be acceptable. Home Premium for $100. And business for $150 or something.
But I don't like the idea that Microsoft will share their code with projects like Wine. Instead they should provide their own APIs for linux themselfs so that existing windows products (read: games) could be run on linux. Porting DirectX on linux isn't impossible task, but it's hard. Cedega is one example of that. Plus that API should be licensed in GPL or similar license. So that it won't be able to get hijacked.
Back at 2000 there wasn't Wii around. Wii is highly designed gaming platform with some spesial features like totally new approach to controller.
There is small things like these that will twist the market. Although Nintendo didn't make up in last round as a winner there is extremely good chance that it will do so now. Xbox360 is last console here to represent us more traditional alike gaming console. Wii and PS3 are more advanced boxes with exactly opposite approaches on gaming at home. While XBox seems to be something in between, I think it is going to be loser in end game.
Windows Vista will need Anti-Virus software eventually when it gets older. Maybe first year might pay off without one, but when security is broken flood will follow.
I don't agree with you on couple of points here. At first I want to tell that you are right about patching that game. It's possible to play it thought but with patches it's a lot easier and faster.
1. ok. Daikatana was over hyped but so what? I don't care what kind of it could have been. I consentrate more on the game itself. I value only the game's existing parts and way these where made. 2. not that I cannot agree with you but I cannot disagree either. AI althought it doesn't suck as much as you think with patches it it very playable game even when your own guys might struck on level or something like that. I experienced it only once. My buddies killed themselfs like two times on whole game. I don't think it's something of their fault. My fault leaving them with a lot of guys to fight against. 3. Tell me please how does the game play of Quake, Quake3 and Unreal differ from Daikatana? Quake2 doesn't even have good single-player story. Half-Life is whole another thing but it's close enought to Quake2 that it's allmost accidentally made game which design flaws and limits made it classic. Deus Ex, game which was perfect as it could be. Mix of RPG and FPS. It is still FPS on bottom of it. And I know exactly how have the normal run, shoot, kill genre changed. Only graphics engines and stories change. Advantages in game play have been forgotten with Quake which betrayed us. 4. Think about it that Daikatana was running Quake2, now how does the Quake2 look like to you? It looks like umh gray, brown, only a little of colours. Block-headed units? Damm. Daikanata has takes this into whole new level. It has graphics which don't compete against Quake3 but I could argue with you about the fact that it looks better than most of Unreal Tournament and Quake3 maps. Heck, NPCs in UT looke like they are on rails or something. I know lots of maps from Daikatana espesially from Greece which looks just amazing. Note that I say this because I compare Quake2 engine variations with Daikatana. Half-Life had outdated graphics when it came out. Daikatana looks better than Half-Life. Like I said, only the first episode is shit. I think that you have not played it entirely thought. 5. I agree with you in this. It has bugs even after patching. Some of those are game killer bugs. But if you don't mind them that much they won't buggy you either. 6. That's a joke right? Daikatana has somewhat good acting. It's not top of the guard. But it sure is better than on Half-Life or Quake3, sorry, Quake3 doesn't even have voice acting. 7. Daikatana multiplayer. Explain why there still are servers for this game out there?:D Althought nobody ever plays on them I still would like to see the fact that Daikatana has working multiplayer. I have made my friends play it on LAN once. They didn't like it but I think it was enjoyable with being faster than Quake3 and somewhat more agressive than Unreal Tournament.
Totally agree that it should have come earlier. But after that I read the problems and got the explanations from the ION Storm history I think that even thought they made big mistakes. They freaking started making the game on top of Quake engine and then changed it into Quake2 which cause ernomous heache to the unexperienced team working with 400page design document made by Romero. OMG! I think they couldn't have made it better. Only Episode 1. sucks. Rest of the stuff is made properly and finalized right. It's great BETA version of the Daikatana. With patches it's great RC1 of the game. I personally don't know a game which combines b class humour and big guns action as good as Daikanata. I hope that you don't compare Daikatana into Quake3,4 or Half-Life1,2 which are uliazing design and inventions made by Daikatana makers. Or where do you think Alyx came from? It's been so similary scripted that it's bit of odd. Also QUake3 map design. There are maps for Daikatana which are like maps for Quake3 but Quake3 also has maps which are like onces in Daikatana. That's also odd.
I don't argue here that Daikatana is best game ever. I argue that it needs more respect and sympathy. I think that everybody in game industry could learn something from Daikatana. Big Swords never die, even if they catch lots of negative press...
Oh I want to note since I found that some of the slashdotters have joked about daikatana. I am serious. It's great game, but it's first episode is total crap which is made in a big hurry and has desing mistakes. A lot of them. No wonder american gamers don't like the game. They don't have guts to play 1 episode entirely thought.
Also, Amiga is the greatest gaming platform ever greated. Not Son¥ playstation or Micro$oft Xbox is even near or will ever be with. Note that PS3 is like Amiga in everyway...
Doom, Quake3, Command and Conquer, Battle Isle II, Descent
Other honorable titles worth mentioning: Death Rally, Daikatana(only ep.2,3,4), Uplink, Metal Gear Solid 2, CnC: Red Alert, Crazy Cars and Duke Nukem 3D
Somehow this starts to remember how Unix wars started... Most stypid thing to do would probably to be splitting Firefox in to pieces. it would not only make firefox revolution progress slower but also might hurt market share.
We all know that Debian developer are sometimes donkeys with things but I think that developing once source base would benefit people more than Debian firefox which has been patched for a and b but not c, official firefox patched for c but not a and b vulnerabilities is just plain stypid. and worst is that this situation will evolve into that if nothing is done for it.
This article is just FUD but let's think it otherwise. If Firefox has 71 potential security vulnerabilities then how much do you think Internet Explorer has? I'd really love to see the real numbers for it. And I'd also like to know how these tests where performed to find a 'security holes'. I'd like to question all these tests since they are mostly bull. They can give glues where the software is or is not depending on who performs the tests. Microsoft will never open their source for somebody outsider to look at and analyze it.
Ps. I personally think IE still has 666 holes in it's sources and at least one of these holes is a hole which won't never be fixed since it was made by goverment.;)
Hmm, IBM has bought many (somewhat important) companies lately. I don't know what they are doing with the all the stuff they have bought lately but I think that it has something to do with their new strategy for server markets. Maybe some market analytic could sum in his/hers blog that what those companies produce, how IBM is going to use them, and what's more important, what's their main objective? What is IBM gaining from all these things? All I can think is that something BIG is going to happen in a year or two... Look at the things they have bought, there must be something which of connects all those companies. Does anyone of you slashdotters have any idea?
There are writing/reading blueray drives for pcs which are able to play blueray movies... If Sony's first one isn't one, then get funk out of elsewhere.
Does your Symbian playback DivX videos? No? Well does your symbian support DRM? Does it include drawing applications? Does it have internal safe checks? Does it have full featured http www-browser which doesn't cut anything out of the web-sites content? And oh yeah, can you theme your phone as much as you want like changing places where the menu buttons lie in phone screen or can you even directly sync it without need for installing managerment software of somesort?
With all these points, it's hard to see reasons why not to use Linux like QTopia in mobile phones. And this is just a small part of all the stuff it can feature. Nokia does development their own stuff and they ensure it works but Symbian is allways Windows binary based and it makes development harder for phones.
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While Descent is great game, I love espesially Descent2 and Descent3, multiplayer modes aren't that great and falls bit short. But in right kind of map and with right people it's _a lot_ of fun. I'd love to see Descent IV to popup by the way. :P
While I agree that Street Fighter is important but take a look when we last saw "a new" street fighter game on any gaming platform? (Do not include re-makes) well there haven't been one at least for seven years.
Instead, Mortal Kombat, the series probably more people people know these days is the game that popularized this genre and helped for example games like Street Fighter to sell.
I'd say Mortal Kombat is more important on this catagory that Street Fighter. To accurate I'am talking about Mortal Kombat II and Mortal Kombat III
Commmand and Conquer 64 for Nintendo 64 was first 3d strategy game ever made. ::nerd
DOOM DOOM WHERE THE HECK IS DOOM?!?
Without ID's DooM there wouldn't be Quake, Tribes, etc...
Risc prosessors are harder to program, they are expensive to manufacture and .. and .. and ...
Althought there are lots of good point in RISC instruction set it's got also problems. There ain't perfect prosessor you are looking into. Everything I have seen has at least two bad points againt three good ones.
What makes this thread interesting is that while Vista will not be running on todays most modern computers well, it will give some idea of what lies ahead in future. I'v tested Vista RTM for three times the 30 days testing perioid, and they always end up the same. Computer Working rating is lower than 2. It should be more than 8. My computer is: Amd Athlon64 3500+ 2,2ghz, fx5700ultra and 1gb of dual channel 400mhz memory. I consider it to be avarage level modern computer, it's not the fastest but something that is normal consumer computer at home these days.
Vista is bitching slow in some tasks, it seems to be more unstable than XP in some ways and less compatible than XP in many ways. It also has highly annoying UI. But one good thing I can tell you about way's of vista: It's still the best windows release we might ever get. Why? Because it introduces us a lot of new things which can change some attitudes towards Windows.
Don't forget that while Developer kits for OS/2 cost a lot of money, Windows developer kits where given for free. So what happened because of this was that while Windows supported more newer hardware than OS/2 and was more multimedia oriented than Os/2 battle over consumers was lost.
There are lots of similar thoughts of OS/2 but we have to remember that it's still used in nuclear plants and banks because of it's "security" and "stability". (Note: I inserted borrowings because I cannot be sure. I am pretty sure of that OS/2 Warp4.5 has lots of unspoken security related problems.)
It's the time line between 1988 and 1990 which hold the fate of Os/2. It was so close that we would be running now a IBM OS/III: XP or IBM OS/IV: Vista instead of Microsoft Windows. I accuse IBM for bitching their fabulous system into trash can.
Let's start demanding Linux client for WOW. When there are enough us Blizzard has to make one for us. I am not tolerating that MAC OSX is having a client but similar system Linux is not. Porting WOW to Unix has already been made of. Who fuck needs support for that software as long as it works fine.
When old ones broke or when I come up with urgent need of more filespace.
Maybe there is need to challenge Microsoft lawyers again in court. Vista prices are like extremely over priced generally. There is no point in Home Basic since it's missing important features like A.E.R.O. And somehow Ultimate doesn't offer anything special for the price point it ships. Expect huge discounts in future. When Ultimate comes with $200 price tag I think it will be acceptable. Home Premium for $100. And business for $150 or something.
But I don't like the idea that Microsoft will share their code with projects like Wine. Instead they should provide their own APIs for linux themselfs so that existing windows products (read: games) could be run on linux. Porting DirectX on linux isn't impossible task, but it's hard. Cedega is one example of that. Plus that API should be licensed in GPL or similar license. So that it won't be able to get hijacked.
Back at 2000 there wasn't Wii around. Wii is highly designed gaming platform with some spesial features like totally new approach to controller.
There is small things like these that will twist the market. Although Nintendo didn't make up in last round as a winner there is extremely good chance that it will do so now. Xbox360 is last console here to represent us more traditional alike gaming console. Wii and PS3 are more advanced boxes with exactly opposite approaches on gaming at home. While XBox seems to be something in between, I think it is going to be loser in end game.
Windows Vista will need Anti-Virus software eventually when it gets older. Maybe first year might pay off without one, but when security is broken flood will follow.
I'm having good vista out of my window...
I think his opinion will be very valid after every CD is copy protected. And at least I will not be buy those non-CD-standard compatible disks.
I don't agree with you on couple of points here.
:D Althought nobody ever plays on them I still would like to see the fact that Daikatana has working multiplayer. I have made my friends play it on LAN once. They didn't like it but I think it was enjoyable with being faster than Quake3 and somewhat more agressive than Unreal Tournament.
At first I want to tell that you are right about patching that game. It's possible to play it thought but with patches it's a lot easier and faster.
1. ok. Daikatana was over hyped but so what? I don't care what kind of it could have been. I consentrate more on the game itself. I value only the game's existing parts and way these where made.
2. not that I cannot agree with you but I cannot disagree either. AI althought it doesn't suck as much as you think with patches it it very playable game even when your own guys might struck on level or something like that. I experienced it only once. My buddies killed themselfs like two times on whole game. I don't think it's something of their fault. My fault leaving them with a lot of guys to fight against.
3. Tell me please how does the game play of Quake, Quake3 and Unreal differ from Daikatana? Quake2 doesn't even have good single-player story. Half-Life is whole another thing but it's close enought to Quake2 that it's allmost accidentally made game which design flaws and limits made it classic. Deus Ex, game which was perfect as it could be. Mix of RPG and FPS. It is still FPS on bottom of it. And I know exactly how have the normal run, shoot, kill genre changed. Only graphics engines and stories change. Advantages in game play have been forgotten with Quake which betrayed us.
4. Think about it that Daikatana was running Quake2, now how does the Quake2 look like to you? It looks like umh gray, brown, only a little of colours. Block-headed units? Damm. Daikanata has takes this into whole new level. It has graphics which don't compete against Quake3 but I could argue with you about the fact that it looks better than most of Unreal Tournament and Quake3 maps. Heck, NPCs in UT looke like they are on rails or something. I know lots of maps from Daikatana espesially from Greece which looks just amazing. Note that I say this because I compare Quake2 engine variations with Daikatana. Half-Life had outdated graphics when it came out. Daikatana looks better than Half-Life. Like I said, only the first episode is shit. I think that you have not played it entirely thought.
5. I agree with you in this. It has bugs even after patching. Some of those are game killer bugs. But if you don't mind them that much they won't buggy you either.
6. That's a joke right? Daikatana has somewhat good acting. It's not top of the guard. But it sure is better than on Half-Life or Quake3, sorry, Quake3 doesn't even have voice acting.
7. Daikatana multiplayer. Explain why there still are servers for this game out there?
Totally agree that it should have come earlier. But after that I read the problems and got the explanations from the ION Storm history I think that even thought they made big mistakes. They freaking started making the game on top of Quake engine and then changed it into Quake2 which cause ernomous heache to the unexperienced team working with 400page design document made by Romero. OMG! I think they couldn't have made it better. Only Episode 1. sucks. Rest of the stuff is made properly and finalized right. It's great BETA version of the Daikatana. With patches it's great RC1 of the game.
I personally don't know a game which combines b class humour and big guns action as good as Daikanata. I hope that you don't compare Daikatana into Quake3,4 or Half-Life1,2 which are uliazing design and inventions made by Daikatana makers. Or where do you think Alyx came from? It's been so similary scripted that it's bit of odd. Also QUake3 map design. There are maps for Daikatana which are like maps for Quake3 but Quake3 also has maps which are like onces in Daikatana. That's also odd.
I don't argue here that Daikatana is best game ever. I argue that it needs more respect and sympathy. I think that everybody in game industry could learn something from Daikatana. Big Swords never die, even if they catch lots of negative press...
Oh I want to note since I found that some of the slashdotters have joked about daikatana. I am serious. It's great game, but it's first episode is total crap which is made in a big hurry and has desing mistakes. A lot of them. No wonder american gamers don't like the game. They don't have guts to play 1 episode entirely thought.
Also, Amiga is the greatest gaming platform ever greated. Not Son¥ playstation or Micro$oft Xbox is even near or will ever be with. Note that PS3 is like Amiga in everyway...
Thank you for reading my opinion.
Doom, Quake3, Command and Conquer, Battle Isle II, Descent
Other honorable titles worth mentioning: Death Rally, Daikatana(only ep.2,3,4), Uplink, Metal Gear Solid 2, CnC: Red Alert, Crazy Cars and Duke Nukem 3D
wow, I must be very lucky with my oldest Harddrive still working. I bought it 1995 and it's about around 800megs of size.
Somehow this starts to remember how Unix wars started...
Most stypid thing to do would probably to be splitting Firefox in to pieces. it would not only make firefox revolution progress slower but also might hurt market share.
We all know that Debian developer are sometimes donkeys with things but I think that developing once source base would benefit people more than Debian firefox which has been patched for a and b but not c, official firefox patched for c but not a and b vulnerabilities is just plain stypid. and worst is that this situation will evolve into that if nothing is done for it.
This article is just FUD but let's think it otherwise. If Firefox has 71 potential security vulnerabilities then how much do you think Internet Explorer has? I'd really love to see the real numbers for it. And I'd also like to know how these tests where performed to find a 'security holes'. I'd like to question all these tests since they are mostly bull. They can give glues where the software is or is not depending on who performs the tests. Microsoft will never open their source for somebody outsider to look at and analyze it. ;)
Ps. I personally think IE still has 666 holes in it's sources and at least one of these holes is a hole which won't never be fixed since it was made by goverment.
It's funny post, slow [news] day huh?
I guess you didn't read the article.
It says:"Two guys left from 3DRealms" not:"DNF delayed, again". Suck it down!
DNF will come someday. We just have to hope for it. Althought Take2 will push it out by force and makes it financially 'catastprofoundly' game.
Hmm, IBM has bought many (somewhat important) companies lately. I don't know what they are doing with the all the stuff they have bought lately but I think that it has something to do with their new strategy for server markets.
Maybe some market analytic could sum in his/hers blog that what those companies produce, how IBM is going to use them, and what's more important, what's their main objective? What is IBM gaining from all these things?
All I can think is that something BIG is going to happen in a year or two... Look at the things they have bought, there must be something which of connects all those companies. Does anyone of you slashdotters have any idea?
There are writing/reading blueray drives for pcs which are able to play blueray movies... If Sony's first one isn't one, then get funk out of elsewhere.
Does your Symbian playback DivX videos? No? Well does your symbian support DRM? Does it include drawing applications? Does it have internal safe checks? Does it have full featured http www-browser which doesn't cut anything out of the web-sites content? And oh yeah, can you theme your phone as much as you want like changing places where the menu buttons lie in phone screen or can you even directly sync it without need for installing managerment software of somesort?
With all these points, it's hard to see reasons why not to use Linux like QTopia in mobile phones. And this is just a small part of all the stuff it can feature. Nokia does development their own stuff and they ensure it works but Symbian is allways Windows binary based and it makes development harder for phones.