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IBM to Buy ISS for $1.3 Billion

gerald626 writes "IBM announced today that they have formed an agreement to purchase ISS for 1.3 billion dollars." From the article: " The all-cash transaction of about $28 per share is meant to bolster IBM's ability to deliver security services to corporations, the company said. ISS builds network protection products and services, including intrusion detection and monitoring tools. IBM said it intends to use ISS's expertise and software to provide more robust security-related services to its corporate customers."

219 comments

  1. Why would IBM... by Billosaur · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...want a space station? To spy on Redmond?

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    1. Re:Why would IBM... by markwalling · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      RTFA. 11 comments and none about Internet Security Systems

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    2. Re:Why would IBM... by ackthpt · · Score: 1, Funny

      ...want a space station? To spy on Redmond?

      I laughed. I cried. I read TFA.

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    3. Re:Why would IBM... by CrimsonScythe · · Score: 1

      No, silly, they want it for outsourcing. People in space work much cheaper than humans, plus they don't have anything but work to spend their spare time on. The only downside is that their English is really broken, though.

      BTW, apparently Erich von Däniken is their HR rep here on earth.

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    4. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Those first 11 replies use a feature of human communication called "sarcasm". These comments are meant as a (friendly and jokingly) attack on the poster, because there is no explanation of what ISS stands for.

      Test what you have learned now: try to detemine the level of sarcasm in this post!

    5. Re:Why would IBM... by DMoylan · · Score: 0, Redundant

      we could bundle all our ms cds, manuals and other crap into a big pile and drop it from orbit on redmond.

      it's the only way to be sure! :-)

    6. Re:Why would IBM... by b4stard · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It's not a space station, it's too big to be a space station.

    7. Re:Why would IBM... by Lectrik · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...want a space station? To spy on Redmond?
      at least I wasn't the only one thinking that
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    8. Re:Why would IBM... by szembek · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      That's because the submitter was an idiot and didn't use the phrase "Internet Security Systems" in the summary or title.

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    9. Re:Why would IBM... by obtuse · · Score: 1

      AT&T are the ones who need the ISS.

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    10. Re:Why would IBM... by supremebob · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Nah, they're just trying to open up their talent pool for future outsourcing venues! I should probably start learning Vulcan now...

    11. Re:Why would IBM... by alx5000 · · Score: 1

      ... like a million whooses filling the room...

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    12. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps the commercialization of space is finally happening! ;-)

    13. Re:Why would IBM... by infolib · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, they want the cleaning company. (2005 revenue $8e9)

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    14. Re:Why would IBM... by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      No, what they need is the moon!

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    15. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a moon! That's a corporate logo!

    16. Re:Why would IBM... by another_fanboy · · Score: 1

      Abducting and probing humans has destroyed the alien economy. They are now forced to work long hours in sweatshops and tech-support centers. One day, they shall rise to management and take over the Earth!

    17. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, yet another Slashdot post which assumes you automatically know what they talking about.

    18. Re:Why would IBM... by antek9 · · Score: 3, Funny

      RTFA, as in: Rolling on The Floor in Agony?

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    19. Re:Why would IBM... by CarnivorousCoder · · Score: 1

      We should eliminate acronyms altogether. They get in the way of comprehension.

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    20. Re:Why would IBM... by Metzli · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I disagree completely. It is a jumbled mouthful to discuss how Voice Over Internet Protocal Session Initiation Protocol traffic has Network Address Translation traversal issues because the Internet Protocol address is embedded into the Transfer Control Protocol / Internet Protocol packet. That's much harded to understand than discussing how VoIP SIP traffic has NAT traversal issues because the IP address is embedded into the TCP/IP packet.

      It does require knowledge of the acronyms, but the jumbled mass of words that would need to be used to decribe the situation are (IMHO) much worse.

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    21. Re:Why would IBM... by Lectrik · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Wait, how was I insightful?
      can I get a -1 Confused now?

      someone mod me down
      Aye dares ye!

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    22. Re:Why would IBM... by CarnivorousCoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then perhaps a good heuristic is "the broader your audience, the fewer acronyms you should use".

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    23. Re:Why would IBM... by slapout · · Score: 1

      Well, we know for those commericals that they already have space suits. And moving down one letter each in "HAL" gives "IBM". H->I A->B L->M

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    24. Re:Why would IBM... by Metzli · · Score: 1

      I agree completely with that statement.

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    25. Re:Why would IBM... by Edward+Teach · · Score: 1

      Ok, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who made that Space Station leap! Who the hell is ISS?

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    26. Re:Why would IBM... by ajs318 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Or at least provide a definition when first introducing an acronym. Besides the traditional method (i.e. brackets), in HTML, you can do something along the lines of IIS - which renders distinctively from general text, and shows a tooltip on hover.

      What rather took the edge off discovering that, for me, was that I'd already come up with a rather convoluted bit of DHTML to do exactly the same effect.

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    27. Re:Why would IBM... by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2, Funny

      To complicate matters, I get ISS and IIS confused; I have to think which acronym is the station, and which one is the shitty web server.

      So, basically, I thought, "What...? How would IBM Purchasing Microsoft's web server improve security for anyone?! Unless they're going to burry it deep."

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    28. Re:Why would IBM... by nurb432 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nah, they will paint it blue and white .. Billboard in space.

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    29. Re:Why would IBM... by Richy_T · · Score: 3, Funny

      Too long. I suggest you abbreviate to TBYATFAYSU

      Rich

    30. Re:Why would IBM... by Unknown_monkey · · Score: 1

      Sorry no mod points today. But hey, I had the same response, since I saw it late and there was a NASA logo on the story below for Orion, I thought IBM was investing in private space exploration, probably as a pre-cursor to HAL-9000 on Vista.

    31. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nigger please, that's a hilarious comment. You mods are on methamphetamine.

    32. Re:Why would IBM... by poulbailey · · Score: 1

      I was thinking of another ISS.

    33. Re:Why would IBM... by EMR · · Score: 1

      At $1.3billion they could sell it for spare parts and make a ton of money.

    34. Re:Why would IBM... by ATMosby · · Score: 1

      What does God, err, IBM need with a space station?

    35. Re:Why would IBM... by CarnivorousCoder · · Score: 1

      You must subscribe to the converse: TNYATMAYSU.

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    36. Re:Why would IBM... by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1
      Easy:
      1. Buy Space Station.
      2. Rename to "death star".
      3. Mount "laser".
      4. ?
      5. Profit!![1]


      [1] One! Million! Dollars!
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    37. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's sad when a place is so nerdy that nobody even questions the use of scientific notation in a financial figure :-P

    38. Re:Why would IBM... by OricAtmos48K · · Score: 1

      To challenge Bill Gates, the Borg ... Hold on a second ... I see Gates the Borg every time I read an article about Microsoft on Slashdot !

    39. Re:Why would IBM... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF do you mean? IDK, but AFAIK, acronyms simplify things FTW!

    40. Re:Why would IBM... by tillerman35 · · Score: 1

      Join AFA-AFA! Americans For An Acronym-Free America!

    41. Re:Why would IBM... by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      I laughed. I cried. I read TFA
      Blasphemy!
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  2. Star Trek & IBM by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Funny
    IBM announced today that they have formed an agreement to purchase ISS for 1.3 billion dollars.


    IBM: This ISS, could it carry my wisdom beyond the Internet?

    Sybok: It could. Yes.

    IBM: Then I shall make use of this... ISS.

    Sybok: It will be your chariot!

    (Kirk politely raises his hand.)

    Kirk: Excuse me.

    IBM: It will carry my power to every corner of creation...

    Kirk: Excuse me! I'd just like to ask a question!

    (McCoy looks at Kirk like he just farted in church.)

    Kirk: Excuse me, but What does IBM need with a space station?
    1. Re:Star Trek & IBM by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 0

      Not to single you out, but did anyone RTFA?

      IBM bought Internet Security Systems out of Atlanta, GA. They're a sizeable IDS solution provider and probably one of the biggest companies in the network security biz. A friend of mine works for them. I guess he'll be sporting a new big blue shirt ... :)

    2. Re:Star Trek & IBM by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      McCoy: Psst! Jim! He's talking about Internet Security Systems!

      (Kirk looks sheepish)

      Kirk: Doh!

      (IBM rolls its eyes)

      (Yes, of course I knew what TFA was talking about. The headline, however, was just too good to pass up! :P)

    3. Re:Star Trek & IBM by rts008 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Awckk!
      I just spewed coffee all over my monitor, you insensetive clod!

      LOL! Very good post- funny, and gets back ontopic, yet is directly replying to offtopic posts. Well done, since I don't have mod points to give you now.

      I also thought of the space station reading the summary, but then RTFA- no, no space station was harmed (or even used) in creating this article.

      The article might have been more interesting if it was about IBM buying the space station- especially if they included Russia's response!

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    4. Re:Star Trek & IBM by uradu · · Score: 1

      > The headline, however, was just too good to pass up!

      Especially following a NASA article.

    5. Re:Star Trek & IBM by monoqlith · · Score: 2, Funny
      Kirk: Excuse me, but What does IBM need with a space station?


      No, no. You have it all wrong. The question Kirk asked was:

      Kirk: Excuse me.....but what.... does....IBMneed....with...aspacestation?
    6. Re:Star Trek & IBM by Steepe · · Score: 1
      clue -- This is a clue.



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      You -- This is you. FAR from a clue lost in your own bile somewhere.

      Youseetimmy, this is whats called a joke. ISS, International space station, why would IBM want an international space station.. etc etc etc.

      Damn dude, you need to get laid or something.

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    7. Re:Star Trek & IBM by alexdw · · Score: 1

      I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this...

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  3. Has anyone else read as by 16384 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    IBM buys the International Space Station? (followed by a brief period of shock :-) )

  4. Yeah, I saw space station too by pierced2x · · Score: 0

    They bought the moon? Wait, that's no moon...

    1. Re:Yeah, I saw space station too by kitsunewarlock · · Score: 1

      No. That's owned by a man in california who has already declared himself emporer of the moon. Personally though I think we should elect the moon's emporer-for-life based soley on moon-worm riding abilities.

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    2. Re:Yeah, I saw space station too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      utterly OT, but the man is obviously a fool. As are the people who try to 'sell' bits of the moon. Their advertising contains something to the effect of "US. Congress granted us the sole right to sell bits of the moon". Now, sadly, there's an international treaty preventing countries from claiming extraterrestrial bodies, so, how, pray tell, did US. Congress magically acquire the authority to grant sole selling (and hence claim) to the moon? Exactly.

    3. Re:Yeah, I saw space station too by kirun · · Score: 1

      Yes, but those treaties do not prevent individuals claiming the moon. So this guy claimed it. I just checked the Lunar Embassy website, and it mentions a bunch of accolades he's got from the National Republican Congressional Committee, but that is not his reasoning why he owns it.

      I still think it's not the greatest purchase in the world, it's not like you can nip over there for a weekend to enjoy your patch.

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    4. Re:Yeah, I saw space station too by l33t_f33t · · Score: 1

      UN Unclaimed land thingie, somebody owns all of the known universe, bar the sun, and the moon. Once the guy who owned the sun tried to charge the guy who owned the moon the lighting bills, but he told him to cut him off. Sad, but true.

  5. Nice headline by 192939495969798999 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe in this case it would be wise to spell out the acronym, so we don't all have a tizzy that they're buying *THE* ISS, the one orbiting the Earth.

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    1. Re:Nice headline by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it made me all excited. If IBM bought the ISS, then we could stop blowing time and money on it, and spend that on something useful.

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    2. Re:Nice headline by Intron · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes. NASA gets $1.3B up front, but wait til they start getting the IBM service bills. Travel time alone ...

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    3. Re:Nice headline by SnowZero · · Score: 5, Funny

      Maybe in this case it would be wise to spell out the acronym,

      International Business Machines

      There, does that help?

    4. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I, for one, was mislead by the story nested under this main story, with headline reading "NASA Names New Spaceship 'Orion'." Maybe that was part of the contract for the space station.

    5. Re:Nice headline by Hoi+Polloi · · Score: 0, Troll

      Well IBM probably has the money to buy the ISS since it sure isn't spending any on making UDB DB2 a better product.

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    6. Re:Nice headline by konigstein · · Score: 1

      IBM = Irritable Bald Monkeys.

      at least, that's what we called ourselves while I worked there... yes, the tupee was part of my retirement plan.

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    7. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      this is a bit pedantic, especially since you were making a joke (and a decently good one), but ibm services groups are generally not allowed to bill travel time. if it takes you 10 hours to fly to and from the client, that's 10 hours down the tube. clients do not get charged for it.

    8. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All this time I thought it was International Broken Machines.

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    9. Re:Nice headline by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hmm.. back when I used to work there it was usually "I've Been Moved", refering to the yearly seemingly random redistribution of people throughout the company that was policy at the time.

    10. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      ....soon to be "Interstellar Business Machines"!

    11. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And once they have upgraded the ISS computers to OS/2 Warp it will be Intergalactic Business Machines

    12. Re:Nice headline by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      IBM = Irritable Bald Monkeys.

      No, I'm pretty sure Steve Ballmer works for Microsoft, not IBM...

      [P.S.] Agree with other response, I'd always heard IBM stood for "I've been moved" as well.

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    13. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you get this tidbit of information from? Your ass?

    14. Re:Nice headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      "Maybe in this case it would be wise to spell out the acronym,"

      International Business Machines

      There, does that help?

      HAL is going to buy the International Space Station?
    15. Re:Nice headline by batquux · · Score: 1

      I Blame Microsoft

  6. You guys are so goofy! by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Funny

    Geez, everyone's telling the same lame "ISS" = "International Space Station" joke.

    It's just a typo! Haven't you figured that out yet? IBM simply bought IIS from Microsoft. I wonder if they'll make IIS run on Linux?

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    1. Re:You guys are so goofy! by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Geez, everyone's telling the same lame "ISS" = "International Space Station" joke.

      Shows that Slashdot is going to the dogs, Goofy, Pluto or other. Yeah, Ha Ha Ha, big yuks all around. It's probably a bit like hell, being told the same dumb joke over and over and over.

      So the reality is, with Microsoft getting into the security biz, so is IBM. Looks like security companies are the new Hot Property.

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    2. Re:You guys are so goofy! by refriedchicken · · Score: 1

      Better yet, I wonder if they will make IIS run on the ISS?!?!?

    3. Re:You guys are so goofy! by patrixmyth · · Score: 1

      Getting IIS to START running on Linux would be nothing compared to being able to STOP it from running in Windows!

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    4. Re:You guys are so goofy! by Lectrik · · Score: 1
      Shows that Slashdot is going to the dogs, Goofy, Pluto or other.


      I'm sorry, but Pluto no longer qualifies as a dog and has been downgraded to some random body orbiting the sun...
      and since pluton is already taken we will call this class of bodies... plutettes.
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    5. Re:You guys are so goofy! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's probably a bit like hell, being told the same dumb joke over and over and over.

      You're an idiot, look at the timestamp. The same joke was told by several people at the same time. After getting past "Move along, nothing to see here"; you see all the first posters asking the same legitimate question. None of them were able to see the other first post attempts.

    6. Re:You guys are so goofy! by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      So the reality is, with Microsoft getting into the security biz, so is IBM. Looks like security companies are the new Hot Property
      Thanks for that! Makes a change from all those content free jokes, in being content free and humourless.
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  7. The real reason behind the purchase... by Nrbelex · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Can anyone honestly think of a better tax-haven than space? I mean really, what's the rate up there these days?

  8. IBM = Irritable Bowel Movement!?!? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, investing in Internet Security Systems seems like a good deal.

  9. Let Me Be... by faqmaster · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    Let me be one of the first thousand to say, "Why would IBM buy the International Space Station?"

    In Soviet Russia, Space Station buys you!

    All your space station are belong to IBM!

    (Whatever happened to Natalie Portman? I hardly ever see her around here any more.)

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    1. Re:Let Me Be... by MarkGriz · · Score: 1, Informative

      (Whatever happened to Natalie Portman? I hardly ever see her around here any more.)

      She opened up her own restaurant

      Doesn't anybody pay attention around here?

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    2. Re:Let Me Be... by Phreakiture · · Score: 1, Redundant

      In Soviet Russia, Space Station buys you!

      It is but a mir space station....

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    3. Re:Let Me Be... by Comboman · · Score: 1
      In Soviet Russia, Space Station buys you!

      All your space station are belong to IBM!

      You missed some, let me help you:

      I for one welcome our new Space-Station-owning overlords.

      Does ISS run Linux?

      Imagine a Beowolf cluster of space stations.

      1. Sell Thinkpad to Lenovo

      2. Buy International Space Station.

      3. ????

      4. Profit!!

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    4. Re:Let Me Be... by Panaflex · · Score: 1

      That was the *best* post I've seen in years on slashdot! Thanks for the link!

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    5. Re:Let Me Be... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Soviet Russia, Space Station buys you!

      All your space station are belong to IBM!

      (Whatever happened to Natalie Portman? I hardly ever see her around here any more.)

      They are the FIRST company to buy a Space Station! Imagine if they bought a Beawolf cluster of these!

  10. Re:I can see it now. by Snarfangel · · Score: 5, Funny

    There are going to be millions of mod point used on -1 Redundant.

    That's only because there isn't a -1 Obvious.

    Now, back to my job at NASA.

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  11. Internet Security Systems by GieltjE · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is internet security systems: http://iss.net/ I hope blackice remains as a pc firewall, I think it is one of the best

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    1. Re:Internet Security Systems by NaDrew · · Score: 1
      I hope blackice remains as a pc firewall, I think it is one of the best
      BlackICE has sucked since ISS closed the California (Mountain View) office and laid off the entire Desktop team. Before that, sure, it was the best desktop firewall available. Of course it was made completely irrelevant by XP SP2's built-in and auto-activated firewall.
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    2. Re:Internet Security Systems by GieltjE · · Score: 1

      There is absolutly nothing worse than the build in sp2 firewall....

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    3. Re:Internet Security Systems by LokiSteve · · Score: 1

      Nothing is worse then it. Which is what all copies of Windows shipped with prior to SP2.

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    4. Re:Internet Security Systems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BlackIce is a good firewall? You've got to fucking be shitting me. When did they start letting such ignorant noobs post without supervision?

  12. Internet Security Systems! (The Article) by vaderhelmet · · Score: 2, Informative

    IBM made a resounding move into security on Wednesday, acquiring Internet Security Systems for $1.3 billion.

    The all-cash transaction of about $28 per share is meant to bolster IBM's ability to deliver security services to corporations, the company said.

    ISS builds network protection products and services, including intrusion detection and monitoring tools.

    IBM said it intends to use ISS's expertise and software to provide more robust security-related services to its corporate customers.

    "This acquisition will help IBM to provide companies with access to trained experts and leading-edge processes and technology to evaluate and protect against threats and enforce security policies," said Val Rahmani, general manager of infrastructure management services at IBM Global Services.

    The ISS acquisition, expected to close in fourth quarter of this year, adds to a rapid-fire succession of big purchases at IBM. In August alone, IBM has announced plans to buy Webify Solutions, MRO Software and FileNet. The tab, if all the deals go through, will exceed $3.6 billion.

    Looking to boost revenue from software and services, most of the company's acquisitions--which total more than 40 since 2003--have been software firms.

    IBM is seeking to grow profits by creating a comprehensive product portfolio and deliver a combination of software and consulting services, according to company executives.

    With ISS, Big Blue intends to deliver the company's products through consulting engagements and hosted services.

    "By delivering an integrated security platform that is adaptable and extensible to address new threats and business requirements without incremental complexity and cost, ISS has delivered the foundation for delivering security as a service," said Tom Noonan, president and CEO of ISS.

    IBM already offers some managed security services and includes security software in its Tivoli product line.

  13. Re:Why would IBM... simple by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

    IBM's decision to buy the ISS was a fantastic decision. They can now freely ignore the Sarbanes Oxlley laws as well as Monopoly and other laws in every country as the IBM headquarters will not be located in outer space making them immune to earth laws.

    Great move on the executives part!

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  14. In other news by Nrbelex · · Score: 1

    In other news... the Fisher Space Pen Company's stock is skyrocketing...

    1. Re:In other news by l33t_f33t · · Score: 1

      Unfortuantley the russian pencil companies' profits just plumeted

  15. You mean it's not the REAL space station? by scottennis · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bad, wicked, naughty Zoot. She's been setting alight to our beacon, which, I just remembered, is space station shaped.

    It's not the first time this has happened.

    1. Re:You mean it's not the REAL space station? by spun · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Wicked wicked Zoot ... she is a bad person and she must pay the penalty. And here in Castle IBM, we have but one punishment... you must tie her down on a bed ... and spank her. Come!

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  16. Was I the only one who DIDN'T Think Space Station? by PrescriptionWarning · · Score: 1

    I mean come on, use your head. You may need to smack it a few times for a nice brain reboot.

    As long as this buyout doesn't mean 15 more login screens with separate passwords to do anything internal, I'm down with it.

  17. Re:IBM buys ISS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ISS=Internet Security Systems

    From the site since i know none of you want to click on the link: ISS builds network protection products and services, including intrusion detection and monitoring tools.

  18. That's no Battle Station... by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's a company!

    Internet Security Systems. www.iss.net

    They do security. That is how IBM will derive security benefits from the purchase. At least that would be the going theory.

    ISS has also apparently made a huge impression on Slashdot readers. *smirk*

    Although buying a space station and fitting it with an Annihiliation Beam which they can use to hold the world for ransom to the tune of one... million... dollars, would seem to have some shareholder value as well, I didn't know that the shares in the Space Station were only 28$ a share. Or that shares even existed for the space station. It must be those wacky Russians trying to make another few million off space.

    1. Re:That's no Battle Station... by Brett+Johnson · · Score: 1

      We all know how well the Sharks with frickin' laser beams on their head project went at IBM's Boca Raton FL facility back in the 90's. Oh, the humanity! [Or would that be "Oh, the Carcharhinidae!"...]

  19. Pfffft! by irregular_hero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a horrible move on IBM's part.

    ISS is having its clock cleaned in the market, pulled apart by high-performance enterprise IPS vendors (Tipping Point, Juniper, Cisco, and the like) on one side, and having their thunder stolen by platform security vendors (Sygate, Check Point, Netscreen, and, yes, even Cisco) on the other -- not to mention the "built-in" stuff that Microsoft has released and the more advanced platform security controls that the company is prepping for release.

    Not too long ago, ISS made the fateful decision to knife most of its IDS/IPS product lines in the back by discontinuing support for "General Purpose" servers and third party appliances, effectively forcing all of its enterprise customers to buy an "owned" ISS appliance (the Proventia series). Companies with large deployments of ISS RealSecure on now End of Lifed platforms suddenly found themselves offered a year of update support and another capital outlay to "upgrade" to Proventia appliances. Not many followed the company down that path, but the ones that did get "first cut" appliances found that they, well, sucked. The company then recentered on a more "appliance"-looking hardware platform, but, by then, the damage was done.

    Then ISS took a market-leading desktop security product, BlackICE, and folded it into their IDS/IPS management product. The integration damn near killed a lot of existing BlackICE customers, not to mention the fact that succeeding software releases were, in many cases, incompatible with previous releases. Those customers who bravely rolled out a BlackICE installation found themselves in the unenviable position of having to do the rollout all over again.

    Then there's ISS's reputation for "leading-edge" security research. Enter the firing of Michael Lynn related to the Cisco BlackHat presentation... They look like idiots out of the whole ordeal, more interested in protecting their corporate butts from the Cisco PR engine than the disclosure of even SANTITIZED security information.

    IBM? Good luck with your new toy. It was broken before you bought it.

    1. Re:Pfffft! by ilaci · · Score: 5, Informative

      irregular_hero, you are of course entitled to your opinions. Hopefully I can provide a little more information about some of the points you are confused on.

      > Not too long ago, ISS made the fateful decision to knife most of its IDS/IPS product lines in the back by discontinuing support for "General Purpose" servers and third party appliances, effectively forcing all of its enterprise customers to buy an "owned" ISS appliance (the Proventia series).

      I'm guessing by "General Purpose" servers you are referring to the Network Sensor and Server Sensor products which could run on hardware you bought. The first Proventia appliance launched was the Proventia A, which was the Network Sensor software pre-installed on a rackmount, sold as a unit. In truth the Proventia A was not very different from the Network Sensor software because it was almost running the same software. The appliance came about because many customers did not wish to buy their own hardware -- they wished to have the appliance. On the other hand, many customers did still wish to buy their own hardware. Thus, Network Sensors, Server Sensors, and Proventia As are in fact all still fully supported. The exception is the slow phase-out of the least popular Nokia and Solaris platforms.

      For more information on the Product Life Cycle of the above mentioned products, please see the Product Documentation for the product you're interested in:
      Server Sensor -- http://www.iss.net/support/documentation/docs.php? product=15&family=7
      Network Sensor -- http://www.iss.net/support/documentation/docs.php? product=12&family=6
      Proventia A -- http://www.iss.net/support/documentation/docs.php? product=35&family=12
      Or for a full listing of products you can see the documentation for, please see: http://www.iss.net/support/documentation/index.php

      There may have been some confusion on this point due to the wild popularity of the Proventia G and Proventia M products which is a completely different product and relies on completely different software. The older Network Sensor, Server Sensor, and Proventia A products are in fact still available, supported, and sold.

      > Companies with large deployments of ISS RealSecure on now End of Lifed platforms suddenly found themselves offered a year of update support and another capital outlay to "upgrade" to Proventia appliances. Not many followed the company down that path, but the ones that did get "first cut" appliances found that they, well, sucked. The company then recentered on a more "appliance"-looking hardware platform, but, by then, the damage was done.

      I believe you may have to be more specific to help resolve your confusion here. Perhaps you were on one of the least-popular platforms of Nokia or Solaris which has been slowly phased out to improve support for more popular products? Based on your mention of appliances, I can only guess you had a Network Sensor (since there is no such thing as a Server Sensor appliance)? The first appliances that came out were the Proventia As, which ran pretty much the same exact software as the Network Sensor software. So your frustration was perhaps due to the hardware? As I mentioned above, the Network Sensor software on many platforms including Linux is still fully supported.

      > Then ISS took a market-leading desktop security product, BlackICE, and folded it into their IDS/IPS management product. The integration damn near killed a lot of existing BlackICE customers, not to mention the fact that succeeding software releases were, in many cases, incompatible with previous

    2. Re:Pfffft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
      Well, just to balance things out a bit, as a former employee perhaps I can clear up a few misconceptions you have...

      ...ISS is having its clock cleaned in the market, pulled apart by high-performance enterprise IPS vendors (Tipping Point, Juniper, Cisco, and the like) ...

      Pulled apart? Yes, those are all ISS competitors, but I wouldn't exactly say that Cisco IDS technology is leading edge or that Juniper is cleaning house these days. TippingPoint/3com? $400 million for an ASIC-accelerated pattern matching engine is not bad if you're one of the TP founders I suppose.

      ...not to mention the "built-in" stuff that Microsoft has released and the more advanced platform security controls that the company is prepping for release.

      Oh yeah, the XP firewall... wow, that was really a direct shot in the heart to ISS. Considering the huge number of enterprises currently running Vista, I can see how you might conclude there is no longer a market for 3rd-party desktop security agents.

      ...Not too long ago, ISS made the fateful decision to knife most of its IDS/IPS product lines in the back by discontinuing support for "General Purpose" servers and third party appliances, effectively forcing all of its enterprise customers to buy an "owned" ISS appliance (the Proventia series).

      Hmmm... I think you have selective memory and possibly maintain a very naive notion about how a company works. Here's an EOL announcement for RealSecure for Nokia:
      http://documents.iss.net/literature/RealSecure/EOC _RSNS7_Nokia_Announce.pdf
      Yes, that's right, an EOL date in 2007. Considering ISS has been shipping Proventia appliances for well over 3 years now, I'm not sure how you'd justify calling this a "knifing" of product lines. And guess what? RealSecure Network Sensor 7.0 for Windows and Linux have not been EOLed! Wow, so much for that argument.

      Furthermore, I see the move to purpose-built appliances as one of the best moves the company ever made. Have you ever deployed a software IDS across an Enterprise? Did you ever use RealSecure prior to 7.0 or actually see RealSecure for Nokia in action? Uhuh, the Proventia appliances were a real step back compared to those Celeron behemoths. I could spend time explaining the performance advantages that Proventia brought to the table, or the fact that tech support calls per appliance sold took a drastic nosedive, or that a *majority* of customers have moved to Proventia, but you're clearly either a competitor or otherwise motivated by some negative interaction you had with the company, so I'll let it slide.

      ...Then there's ISS's reputation for "leading-edge" security research. Enter the firing of Michael Lynn related to the Cisco BlackHat presentation...

      Mike Lynn resigned. To this day he doesn't have much bad to say about ISS the company, but does hold a handful of employees responsible for the situation that ensued.

      ...They look like idiots out of the whole ordeal, more interested in protecting their corporate butts from the Cisco PR engine than the disclosure of even SANTITIZED security information.

      ISS released dozens of security advisories on Cisco gear over the years... I could list a bunch of them, but you're just as capable of searching Google (or the X-Force database) as am I.

      I trust IBM did it's homework a lot more thoroughly that you before performing this acquisition. And it's a good thing, since your version of homework is false accusations, half-truths and conjecture.

    3. Re:Pfffft! by Metzli · · Score: 1, Informative

      As a (hopefully) soon-to-be-former ISS customer I can't speak for Server Sensor, Proventia A, etc., but I do know about Site Protector, the Proventia G and the Proventia Desktop. The G isn't bad, as it's just a somewhat stripped-down Red Hat 8. It's pretty rock-solid and stable.

      Site Protector is (IMHO) a bloated piece of crap. I don't like security software that will only run on Windows (only recently supporting W2k3 SP1), requires SQL Server, and can't be accessed in any useful manner from a non-Windows machine. There is a browser-based component, but it doesn't have full functionality and has even more reduced functionality if the browser isn't IE.

      The Proventia Desktop is one of the biggest disappointments for me. They took BlackICE, which was a decent product, and thoroughly screwed it up. I ran the test deployment for our shop, using only IT folks for the run-through, and ended up canning the entire project. It was slow, it was buggy, and the Virus Prevention would slow the box to an absolute crawl if the user tried to do anything with Java.

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    4. Re:Pfffft! by ronanbear · · Score: 1
      This is a horrible move on IBM's part. ISS is having its clock cleaned in the market

      That just makes ISS cheaper to acquire for IBM. IBM don't have to be especially interested in some of those issues such as forcing customers to buy ISS hardware as they can bundle it instead with IBM solutions. This just makes IBM more vertically integrated. There's a few more things that they are in control of.

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    5. Re:Pfffft! by irregular_hero · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, glad to see ISS's PR department knows about Slashdot. And, hey! You're right, I was affected by the product line "simplification"! Glad to meet you, now sit down and listen.

      Knifing the Nokia relationship left lots of enterprise customers in the dust, not because it was done, but it was done while 1) the product was still being actively pushed by both companies, and 2) without an assessment of what impact it would have on the customer base. Let's face it, the Nokia stuff was axed because ISS wanted to enter the appliance space, without regard to existing deployments. I still remember the arrogant tact of ISS's sales staff when they approached us with the news AND a quote for replacing all of our deployments with Proventia -- it was 20% higher than our TCO on Nokia! That was, and still is, a bad BUSINESS move, and left a lot of customers with a bad taste in their mouths about ISS. That aside...

      I find your assertion about the Proventia G and M being "wildly popular" a bit dubious for a product that has only had about a year and a half in the market (and, yes, I'm counting that from the launch of the G400 and G2000 -- as an enterprise customer, they're the only ones we every considered). I talk with a lot of ISS customers. The big ones -- the truly big ones -- consider themselves saddled with their Proventia investment. They see other vendors coming in providing multi-gigabit solutions that operate at wire speeds on all packet sizes... They see IPS functionality being rolled into core switch fabrics, some of them on general purpose blades... They begin to wonder why they're invested in edge IPS when their firewalls are starting to gain the same feature functionality... And they get angry when a Core update munges their SiteProtector AGAIN... Leave the assessment of "wildly popular" to the point in time when these users report themselves as being totally satisfied with the investment they've made, not because our installed base is X^2 instead of X.

      I know you've still got a "general purpose" network sensor out there. We used to run a few of those, until we had little nagging issues with XPUs where the proposed solution was "get to Proventia" because "that's where the development is being done now". And although your Network Sensor has an "inline mode," I know for a fact that your sales force actively steers people away from using it as an IPS. Having a product available is not the same as being able to provide undeniably good support for it -- just ask CA about that one.

      As for the BlackICE (nee Desktop Protector, nee Proventia Desktop) installation, hey; what can I say? I wish we could all adopt a product at a point along its lifespan where everything is as we want it. But that didn't happen for us -- and for other customers (mostly bleeding-edge adopters). To speak to the "integration" with SiteProtector, I'd say the selling point there is relatively limited compared to what it was proposed to be when sold to us. But what do I know? I'm just a guy that has to redeploy a bunch of crap that will be replaced by GPO-managed Windows firewall rules and next-gen platform health checking that Microsoft will eventually give us for free. For the second time.

      Thanks for the response, though.

    6. Re:Pfffft! by irregular_hero · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I love responding to ISS people! I really do!

      I didn't say that the companies I mentioned were on the bleeding edge, just that they're making serious inroads against ISS. Hell, all Cisco has to do is sneeze together an IPS solution and lots of companies would buy it based solely on the label and the fact that it fits into their Catalyst (and I would argue that they did exactly that with their current product lines). Last time I checked, wasn't Cisco now selling more IDS/IPS gear than anyone else in terms of revenue? Oh, yeah, this IS an economy of scale, isn't it?

      Oh yeah, the XP firewall... wow, that was really a direct shot in the heart to ISS. Considering the huge number of enterprises currently running Vista, I can see how you might conclude there is no longer a market for 3rd-party desktop security agents.

      I have no love for the stuff Microsoft gives us. I despise the build-in strategy they like to force on the marketplace. But it's FREE. It's bundled with the damn product we have to run anyway. It's totally FREE. And we sure as hell will go Vista when it comes because most of our backend systems will require it and our user systems will likely rely on Vista-integrated features. And then there's that FREE thing again. Good luck on that one, most companies like to get handouts because it makes you look good on the balance sheet -- and if it doesn't work, then you can blame Microsoft, which everyone does anyway, AND which never has any effect because there's really no other way you can go if you saddled yourself to that horse.

      I could spend time explaining the performance advantages that Proventia brought to the table, or the fact that tech support calls per appliance sold took a drastic nosedive, or that a *majority* of customers have moved to Proventia, but you're clearly either a competitor or otherwise motivated by some negative interaction you had with the company, so I'll let it slide.

      How in the hell did you figure out that I've had negative interaction with ISS? Good call! You're right that I have -- and that has indeed colored my view of the company, of which I have some pretty strong opinions. And those opinions of the company are based on the people, not the product -- I'm aware that the Proventias continue to improve. But that's hardly my fault, I've only been dealing with ISS as a customer since 1994 or so. Definitely not long enough to develop any empirical data to support my assertions that they're not customer-friendly. I take all of it back.

      I am, after all, naive about how "a company" works -- it's definitely not about making customers happy AND making money. It's only about making money, isn't it? And as long as we're making money, the customers will stay with us! That's the ticket!

      Mike Lynn resigned. To this day he doesn't have much bad to say about ISS the company, but does hold a handful of employees responsible for the situation that ensued.

      Uh huh. Glad to see he's got class. He still left a company because of a disagreement that ISS exacerbated by refusing to defend him. I say "fired". And "bamboozled". And "removed". And "backhanded". And "sirloin". Whatever. He's got class where ISS refused to have any.

      I trust IBM did it's homework a lot more thoroughly that you before performing this acquisition. And it's a good thing, since your version of homework is false accusations, half-truths and conjecture.

      Yeah, I guess being a customer of a company gives you no insight to be able to judge how poorly a company performs for its customers. And now that you mention it, as I hadn't to this point actually engaged in false accusations, half-truths, and conjecture, I might as well.

      False accusation: I find ISS's management to be not at all a big bunch of baboons with excessively large penchants for flinging shit in their customers' faces.

      Half-truths: I find ISS's management to be a big bunch of baboons with excessively large penchants for flinging shit in their customers' faces.

      Conjecture: IBM is likely to find itself up to its armpits in customers with shitty faces.

      Ciao!

    7. Re:Pfffft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sourcefire (Snort) is really what is kicking ISS's ass.

    8. Re:Pfffft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, he left all active management of the company years ago. Invent some new insults, OK? I believe after this deal is, well, a done deal, he'll be out of the loop entirely, having sold all of his stock. Maybe he'll be getting a token IBM position, I haven't heard... in any case, nothing mentioned above has anything to do with Chris Klaus. If you want to diss the products (and services!) ISS delivers, go ahead. But try to be informed, you fucking moron.

      This is like the endless array of people complaining about Internet Scanner, a product ISS doesn't even really market anymore! It's been replaced for any customer that matters (enterprise, not shrink-wrapped one-off sales):

      http://www.iss.net/products/Proventia_Network_Ente rprise_Scanner/product_main_page.html

    9. Re:Pfffft! by icemask · · Score: 1
      when i heard the news, my first two thoughts were:

      1) damn, there goes another good security company (the EMC/RSA thing made me sit out on the back porch and quietly watch the sunset)

      2) good move by IBM. at least over here, this will give IBM some cred in the threat management and MSS areas.

      This acquisition is another shark starting to circle Symantec. The combination of Microsoft and NSP's offering clean pipe options for broadband users means that the consumer AV market is going to drop away over the next 3-4 years. If the big yellow box doesn't diversify really well and really fast, they're going to turn into another Sun.

    10. Re:Pfffft! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      ISS is having its clock cleaned in the market, pulled apart by...

      What do you want to bet there's a patent the company held that they were after?

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    11. Re:Pfffft! by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1
      Remember, IBM is the company that gives us Tivoli....

      70% hype, 1% function, 29% dark matter. Why is this different? It's shrink-wrap around a buzzword around a marketing gap.

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    12. Re:Pfffft! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Clocks cleaned" and "pulled apart" is ridiculous. Please give solid evidence to back up your accusations. Oh, you can't cause it's not true. And by the way "my company bought Tipping Point over ISS" and "I know a 'bunch' of other companies that have done the same" is in no way, shape or form backing up your numbers. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with BS, right? Kudos.

      Your comments about Mike Lynn would be very true if Mike Lynn were X-force. However, X-force is a TEAM of people. Lynn was a small part of that. Yes, he was very bright, but he was not the only bright person on that team. There are many more equally talented people on that team. Mike Lynn was given a choice and the consequences of his actions were clearly explained to him WELL BEFORE he exposed the CISCO vuln. The descision was, in the end, MIKE's, and NOT ISSs. So, your information here is incorrect as well. Your throwing all of your X-force eggs into the Mike Lynn basket shows that you really know nothing about that of which you speak. You read an article or two on the net and think you know everything. Typical. Uninformed, incorrect, misleading, and typical.

      The IDS/IPS *management* product would be Site Protector, and BlackIce was not folded into that product. BlackIce has had it's own problems, admittedly. A lot of this stems from (in my opinion) that many at ISS saw it as a small product with small margins, and it got largely ignored, and control was not really taken over that product. That too is changing, though you wouldn't know it because ISS can't seem to market crap. Hopefully IBM wil change this. I think Black ICE's strength for ISS lies not in profit margins, but in brand name recognition. Hopefully IBM will see that.

      I hate to break it to you, a lot of the "competition" that you mentioned is competition in name only. For example, CISCO's IPS product really can't touch ISSs in terms of accuracy and PROTECTION. I love it when people say "Oh CISCO is better cause they also have a firewall, and it's on a 1 million gigabit switch!!!!" This shows a real lack of understanding of IPS and/or firewall performance. If an IPS product (or firewall, or whatever) can only handle 200Mb worth of sustained traffic before it starts choking and droping packets, then throwing it on a 10Gb switch vs a 1Gb switch, is purely marketing B.S. Furthermore if you switch from 1Gb to 10Gb because you actually do need that extra bandwidth, and you are relying on the traffic, a firewall that operates much slower and then starts dropping packets is only going to make the situation WORSE, not better. Congrats, you just wasted a sh*tload of money upgrading from 1Gb to 10Gb. MANY of ISS competitors do take this approach. Why? Because many of the customers are not only not savvy enough to realize this margin of diminishing returns, and all they hear is "we do 10Gb" even when the protection really doesn't. An often practice workaround to this problem, is to simply speed up the firewall or IPS engine by checking for less vulnerabilities. Gartner Group, NSS, and many other INDEPENDANT companies have reviewed and compared the products. Search google and read the studies and will will get a bit closer to where the truth lies. You will see that ISS kills the competition in completeness of vulnerability signatures. What good is a REALLY fast IPS product, if it only protects against half of the vulnerabilities out there? All it takes is an intrepid hacker to figure out what ABC Brand IPS doesn't catch, and a single attack can essentially render 10s of thousands of dollars of software/hardware useless. Because of this, I would rather have more complete protection than rushed speed. ISS wil release 10Gb products, or whatever the next evolution will be when they are ready, and at least TRY to do it right rather than do it first.

      As far as all of the coments from several about ISS "forcing" customers to go to appliances, etc. you can still buy the software. See the previous poster's links to the EOL

    13. Re:Pfffft! by Arapahoe+Moe · · Score: 1

      Wow. I ..... can't ..... even ..... respond ..... intellectually ..... to how ridiculous your comments are. Stop the madness, Susan Potter. The reality is that, the technology that ISS brings to the table is far so far superior in many ways to their competitors. It also sucks major ass in alot of ways. But DUDE, fucken take a XANAX or something. Life is too short to be so ANGRY about nothing really. Save it for when your daughter gets pregnant from some biker dude. ;) Thanks. MOE

  20. Re:Sweet Deal!! by Undertaker43017 · · Score: 1

    Seems a little high for an incomplete structure with limited, inconsistant transportation to and from...

  21. I didn't know. . . by kimvette · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I didn't know the International Space Station was for sale? ;)

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    1. Re:I didn't know. . . by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      Well, the Stargate's getting shut down, so I don't think anything with respect to the government and space is safe.

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  22. Why 1.3 billion is no money at all... by spinja · · Score: 2, Informative

    Look at the stock price for ISSX, compare that to the purchase price of about $28/share. There is a total "premium" of 7% above the market value of the ISS stock. The only entity making money on this deal is the brokerage firm that handled the transaction.

  23. Serious Comment by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Insightful

    At the risk of disrupting the fun, I'd like to interject a serious comment. ISS resells some real security technologies that IBM has been missing from their offerings for a long time. In the network security space, they resell some important technology that has traditionally been in the "Cisco camp" and thus mostly implemented by enterprise customers that don't do a lot of business with IBM. This could really change the landscape of enterprise security... in a few years when IBM manages to get ISS integrated into their sales channels.

    1. Re:Serious Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the network security space, nobody can hear you scream!

      Pshaw, a space reference inside a Serious Comment not related to the ISS in any way... Hah.

  24. Worth that much? by zolaris · · Score: 1

    I have to say I am shocked that ISS was worth 1.3 billion. I mean I am very familiar with it's vulnerability assessment toolkits but... 1,300 million. Just seems like a lot but I guess it is all for a name and a reputation (funny, my firm stopped recomending ISS all together but that was a while ago and I've heard they cleaned up their act).

    Also for this article can we add a filtering setting: "read at no reference to space stations"?

  25. Now it's your turn... by Talennor · · Score: 2, Funny

    This is funny, because as someone who has worked for ISS (Internet Security Systems) and frequently reads Slashdot, I've found several articles confusing when people write about /the/ ISS (Space Station) and I think, "Wait, what the hell are we doing?" So I welcome you all to my world of ambiguousness, which won't exist much longer now that it's been bought...

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  26. Re:Yes i'm redundant by wqurg · · Score: 1

    Internet Security Systems

  27. Back in the day... by OriginalArlen · · Score: 5, Funny

    when I first started working in infosec (5, 6 years ago) I spent a lot of time downloading and playing with the free trials for various vuln scanners - ISS, Retina, LANGuard and so on. I mentioned this to someone with more security experience who replied "ISS? It's Still Shit, right?"

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  28. This may seem a bit off topic... by jarg0n · · Score: 0
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    1. Re:This may seem a bit off topic... by pembo13 · · Score: 1

      Demographic targetting

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    2. Re:This may seem a bit off topic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Why is this ad at the top of slashdot???

      Must be a problem with adblocker. You may need to reinstall it.
  29. The thing that's really funny: by AltGrendel · · Score: 1

    ISS is a network products company. They really could carry IBMs word across the Internet.

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  30. 16+ "space" matches by Cybert4 · · Score: 0

    Ah, slashdot groupthink. You like space. You're intelligent. I get it. Now try to read replies before you become yet another nerd piping in with your obvious comment.

    1. Re:16+ "space" matches by glsunder · · Score: 1

      and not a single one about IBM death stars.

  31. ... and they're crooks to boot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've seen ISS involved in more crooked deals and sales than any other IT company apart from EMC.

    Unfortunately, this sale is going to benefit more than a few people who sacrificed the security and protection of entire US government agencies for the sake of a quick buck.

    Fuck you ISS. May you rot and burn in hell.

  32. Re:Why would IBM... simple by owlnation · · Score: 1
    IBM's decision to buy the ISS was a fantastic decision. They can now freely ignore the Sarbanes Oxlley laws as well as Monopoly and other laws in every country as the IBM headquarters will not be located in outer space making them immune to earth laws.
    cut and fade up on...

    INT. REDMOND OFFICE. DAY.

    SECRETARY: Mr Ballmer! Mr Ballmer! Please stop! You are ruining the paintwork on the ceiling with that chair...
  33. 100% agree with you by brennz · · Score: 2, Informative

    First of all, ISS's vulnerability scanner has turned to such a piece of dog doo, I wouldn't touch it with a poop scooper. In 2005, it was installing an vulnerable MSDE onto windows boxes, and just patching the MSDE was enough to break compatibility (This vulnerability has been out for 3 months at the time). On the product side though, ISS's scanners have been thoroughly stomped by Tenable's Nessus and Eeye's Retina.

    As far as ISS goes on the IDS/IPS side, their products went from leader to lackluster. Snort, Tipping point, and Intrushield - need I say more?

    Then on the vulnerability database side, you have the X-Force DB being demolished by the innovative Open Source Vulnerability Database led by real security gurus like Jericho, not to mention the other DBs like Secunia, NVD, etc.

    ISS = vaguely reminds me of CA, corporate types taking good products and not keeping them updated, not innovating, and just trying to suck the blood from corporate customers.

    1. Re:100% agree with you by PygmySurfer · · Score: 1

      You think it's bad on Windows? You should try it on HP-UX. Random kernel panics abound.

      For awhile, ISS was using us as beta testers. They'd give us a patch to install on a customer's box to "fix" the issue. Apparently they didn't bother testing these patches, and the kernel panics continued.

      Fortunately, we were able to convince most of our customers to tell ISS to go fuck themselves.

  34. Re:Sweet Deal!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like the IBM I work for.

  35. As an ISS employee by cmhoranb · · Score: 1

    I for one welcome our new IBM overlords.

    1. Re:As an ISS employee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well i hope they weed out the fools that I had the misfortune of trying to get help from. And yes, I'm a paying customer, not some chancer asking for free consultancy or 'trial software'.

    2. Re:As an ISS employee by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      As an ISS employee I for one welcome our new IBM overlords
      Dude, it's supposed to be a joke, not an entusiastic arse-lick.
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  36. Re:troQolkore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Umm...

    What are you getting at?

  37. Re:Yes i'm redundant by BillGod · · Score: 2, Informative

    Internet Security Systems They make scanner software. I used it a few years back. It was pretty cool but retina was better. My $.02

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  38. e-Business Consultants on a Space Station ! by Arthur+B. · · Score: 1

    ... with snakes hopefully

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    1. Re:e-Business Consultants on a Space Station ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That gives me an idea for a movie...

    2. Re:e-Business Consultants on a Space Station ! by east+coast · · Score: 1

      I thought e-Business Consultants were snakes?

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  39. Easy To Misread by psbrogna · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Right, so NOT the International Space Station then ... that would have been weird.

  40. The real question is ... by kinglink · · Score: 1, Funny

    when is IBM putting a giant friking laser on the Space station?

  41. parent has information. wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amazing how many space stations I had to read to find was iss.net was.

  42. To quote Rosanne Rosannadanna.... by StressGuy · · Score: 1

    ....BITCH!...

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  43. Re:ISS? by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

    Anyone else read that and wonder what IBM would want with the International Space Station?

    Nope. You're the only one who made that misteak.

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  44. IBM Corporate Government by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

    Which gives me the perfect place to point out that $1.3 billion for a relatively small merger means that companies now control sums of money that used to be governmental in nature; and thus, since money is power, have become de facto governments.

    This is just to show the libertarians out there that free market does not neccessarily mean LESS government, only different government, for money is the ultimate power structure.

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  45. A Missing Link by siriuskase · · Score: 1
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  46. old school by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still remember when ISS was the actual product name of a little security tool that was just an open source project, back somwhere in the 94-96 era, and the author hung out on EFNet irc channel #hack. My how times have changed, I'm glad he's done well for himself.

  47. Low price by chord.wav · · Score: 1

    Isn't 1.3 billion dollars a bit low for the International Space Station? Wait..umm..nevermind.

  48. Obligatory by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

    We should eliminate acronyms altogether. They get in the way of comprehension.

    "Since the VP is such a VIP, maybe we should keep the PC on the QT. Otherwise he could go MIA, and we'd all end up on KP."

    Sounds perfectly nonobfuscationalized to me.

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    1. Re:Obligatory by Punboy · · Score: 1

      Sounds perfectly nonobfuscationalized to me.

      The phrase may be nonobfuscated, however your new-fangled word isn't ;-)

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    2. Re:Obligatory by geobeck · · Score: 2, Funny

      The phrase may be nonobfuscated, however your new-fangled word isn't ;-)

      Yeah, but the real word didn't seem... well, cromulent enough.

      I guess I could have gone for nonantidisobfuscationalizapated.

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  49. Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats! by alienmole · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You may have hit on something here -- if all the world's megacorps decided they needed jurisdiction-free headquarters in space, the problem of humanity being stuck on planet Earth would be solved! Before this decade is out, we could have a space-based population consisting of hundreds of thousands of CxOs, lawyers, accountants, and their support staff.

    Perhaps we've been looking in all the wrong places for the Right Stuff? The future of space is... cubicles!

  50. Re:ISS? by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

    Heh. Honestly, when I hit 'reply', there wasn't a single comment on the page...

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  51. Re:Was I the only one who DIDN'T Think Space Stati by gerald626 · · Score: 1

    No, just you and me apparently, when I wrote the damn thing! Doh!

  52. Fight Club by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

    Wow, so close.


    Narrator (Jack): When deep space exploration ramps up, it will be the corporations that name everything: the IBM stellar-sphere, the Microsoft galley, the planet Starbucks.


    w00t!

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  53. I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What does IBM want with a space station??

  54. IBM's shopping list. by AnXa · · Score: 1

    Hmm, IBM has bought many (somewhat important) companies lately. I don't know what they are doing with the all the stuff they have bought lately but I think that it has something to do with their new strategy for server markets.
    Maybe some market analytic could sum in his/hers blog that what those companies produce, how IBM is going to use them, and what's more important, what's their main objective? What is IBM gaining from all these things?
    All I can think is that something BIG is going to happen in a year or two... Look at the things they have bought, there must be something which of connects all those companies. Does anyone of you slashdotters have any idea?

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  55. I for one by Salsaman · · Score: 1

    ...welcome our new space station based super-computer overlord !

  56. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by arthurpaliden · · Score: 4, Funny

    It the start of the "B" Ark. Every one know where their towel is.

  57. Re:Why would IBM... simple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why not use international waters instead?

  58. This proves my theory... by Blackhood · · Score: 1

    ...that acronyms will one day cause the world to be blown to smitherines. What ISS means to you may not be the same thing it means to Joe from down the street. I think the title should be clarified. At least put something in the text that shows it is not the International Space Station that was (will be) purchased.

    On another thought. I wonder what the International Space Station would sell for? Much more than 1.3B, I bet.

    1. Re:This proves my theory... by jd · · Score: 1

      Well, the International Space Station is currently incapable of performing science, is due to be retired before it is due to be complete, and the length of time it has been in space is roughly the same as the expected mean time between significant meteorite strikes on an object of that size in that orbit. Oh, and bits are being held on with duct tape. A scrap metal merchant might offer $10 for it.

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  59. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by gi-tux · · Score: 1
    we could have a space-based population consisting of hundreds of thousands of CxOs, lawyers, accountants, and their support staff.
    And the world would be a better place to live :-) We might actually get some work done down here without all those bean counters and legal eagles keeping us busy accomplishing nothing.

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  60. Rods from God by rlp · · Score: 1

    Bye bye Redmond. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rods_from_god - but substitute 'Mainframe' for 'tungsten telephone pole'.

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  61. Re:Yes i'm redundant by smaerd · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    OMG Ponies? I didn't see that. Got a link? I did a search for "OMG Ponies" and got nothing... then I tried "Ponies" still no dice.... any help?

  62. Re:Yes i'm redundant by smaerd · · Score: 1

    Crap! Nevermind. I found it... hint: search with google and not just slashdot's built-in search.

    for others confused like me:

    OMG Ponies and Pic goodness

  63. That's not Internet Security Systems.... by Orlando · · Score: 1, Redundant

    ...that's a space station!

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  64. Re:Why would IBM... simple by infinite9 · · Score: 1

    Great move on the executives part!

    Yeah, great! Now if we could just send the rest of the world's corporate executives in to outer space, we'd all live happily ever after.

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  65. International Space Station by Sir_Lewk · · Score: 1

    Wow, for a second I thought it was April 1!

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  66. Re:Star Trek & IBM -- What are you talking abo by Ster · · Score: 4, Funny

    That sounds like it might have been between ST: IV and ST: VI, but we all know that there was no movie in between ST: IV and ST: VI .

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    It didn't happen, okay!

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  67. Now its their turn... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I used to work for a small australian startup called vCIS, which did virus detection via virtualization. ISS bought the company and in less than a year sacked everyone and closed it down.

    I wonder if now it is ISS's turn at the hands of IBM?

    1. Re:Now its their turn... by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      ISS bought the company and in less than a year sacked everyone and closed it down
      Well, they must have lost a lot of money on that deal then!

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  68. Re:Star Trek & IBM -- What are you talking abo by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

    Um... ST: V?

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  69. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by kubrick · · Score: 1

    But who's going to keep our telephones clean?

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  70. IBM finally Moving Into Space? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I originally thought this was in reference to IBM purchasing the International Space Station (ISS) and solving NASA's funding problem.

  71. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by Memnos · · Score: 1

    And, IIRC, a firm is selling speculative plots of land on Mars. OK, so a Corporation won't put any physical headquarters there anytime soon. But with a million lawyers typing queries on a million keyboards for citations and vague authority into LEXIS, they might be able to piggyback a trivial payload on a Mars lander mission denoting the corporate charter and physical articles of incorporation, and register a putative "agent" to handle such, and then, they might say "If we choose, these are the (nonexistent) rules and laws we must live by. Of course we are going to be good corporate citizens of Earth, but we reserve the right..." Nah-nah-ne-nah-nah, we were there first. Checkmate.

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  72. IBM to Buy ISS for $1.3 Billion by wiz-kid2006 · · Score: 1

    Say good bye to ISS, same thing happen to LC5

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  73. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by Grab · · Score: 1

    Great! Get the SOBs out of our hair for once.

  74. Re:Finally! A commercial reason for space habitats by muzzmac · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow! Now that would make for a popular nuclear missile target I'll bet.

  75. IBM - ISM - ISS - ?SS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    IBM seems to be working up to something. During the 80's and early 90's they used the alter-ego ISM to circumvent certain sanctions, allowing them to trade in South Africa. Now they buy ISS. No doubt they're planning to replace the letter I next. I challenge everyone to think of the first TLA ending in SS

  76. Re:Star Trek & IBM -- What are you talking abo by isorox · · Score: 1


    Um... ST: V?


    Star Trek: Voyager?

    There are 9 trek files
    1) Forgivable as it was made in the 70's
    2) Awesome
    3) Passable
    4) Wonderful

    6) Awesome
    7) Passable
    8) Great
    9) Passable
    10) Pretty darn shit

    They didn't make a number 5 for some reason.

  77. Re:Why would IBM... simple by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    because then you can't threaten your competitors with a death ray.... DUH!

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