I just saw the report of this study... and then saw this:
Excerpt: There is good and bad news for climate scientists. The good news: Most Americans (79 percent) say that science and scientists are invaluable.
The bad news: On controversial topics such as climate change, a significant number of Americans do not use science to inform their views. Instead, they use political orientation and ideology, which are reflected in their level of education, to decide whether humans are driving planetary warming.
This comes from a public opinion poll released yesterday by Pew Research Center and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). The poll captured a significant split between what scientists and the general public believe on climate change.
In 2014, the vast majority (87 percent) of scientists said that human activity is driving global warming, and yet only half the American public ascribed to that view. And 77 percent of scientists said climate change is a very serious problem. In comparison, only 33 percent of the general public said it was a very serious problem in a 2013 poll. --- end excerpt ---
Let's see, this is where we spend big bucks raising *crops*, on *cropland*, to turn into fuel, as opposed to the original proposals to use biomass - that's waste, that's *weeds* (that need *zero* bucks on fertilizers and watering and pesticides to raise....
Jealous, you poor stupid fool? Of what? Of, say, the Koch's, who have just announced almost a billion USD to do their best to *buy* not only who runs on the GOP side, but the elections? Who, along with friends like Murdoch (Faux News), have brainwashed you to hate democracy, and believe that it's not worth voting, that they're al the same (right, W and Gore were the same; so is Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Mitch McConnel.)
Oh, and sucker? Together, my wife and I are probably in the top 5% (which is a lot less income then you think it is).
mark, who'd like his kids and his friends to have good paying jobs, and not wind up jobless
This is insightful? I suppose, if you're a libertarian.
Reality check: in the US, Congress almost *never*, sitting around in the room, decides, "hey, let's make a new regulation, we ain't doin' anything else anyway, and we need to look like we're working." This seems to be what the poster I'm replying to thinks.
Let's see: St. Ronnie and the Republicans push through banking and s&l "reform", and cut the budget for the regulators. Several years later, the S&L disaster, of which, according to the papers at the time, 30% was internal, white collar crime. Deregulate telecoms*, and several years later, the tech bubble bursts, wiping out many retirement investments, and causing a recession.
Bush & co cut regulation of banking and stocks; and we get the current Lesser Depression.
Anyone else notice a pattern here? Sort of like less regulation and regulators, and the majority of us get screwed, and loose money, while the top 1% keep going up?
And I *do* have something against "people being rich". How 'bout we just have a 100% tax on all wealth above $1G? Or maybe above $500M? What', a hundred million dollars isn't enough incentive, people will just fraudulently get themselves on welfare, and sit back and drink light beer and watch tv? Don't bother talking about job creators, either: they've been getting richer and richer... WHERE ARE THE JOBS? (Other than the ones in Pakistan, and China, and India, and....).
*And as for "coercion", is that like, oh, in the mid-nineties, when I worked for Ameritech, and we were ORDERED by our division president to write our Congresscritter and Senators to tell them to support deregulation, *and* he wanted copies of our letters (nice job you got dere, be a shame if somet'in' were to happen' to it)?
That's really the question. Are you using the GPU for heavy-duty computing, or graphics, or...?
We've got money around here (we're a civilian-sector US gov't agency) using NVidia Tesla cards - in several servers, *two* of 'em - for heavy lifting with things like R. We do use the installable proprietary drives, and they work.
I haven't heard of anyone using it in, oh, 20 years or so.
And yes, in '89-'90, I used it (along with C) at work.
Why would you *want* to use it? I mean, for one thing, it was invented as a teaching language, and didn't even have i/o (really!) - that was bolted on afterwards. For another, didn't it become java (I mean, can you say writeln, boys and grrls?)?
NeoFascists is what they are (except for the "Tea Party", who are racist neoConfederate traitors).
And did you think all fascists in the world disappeared with a *poof* (or by hanging) at the end of WWII?
Let's check with someone who speaks with more authority on fascism than any of you here, Mussolini, first fascist dictator, who liked to quote that "fascism is more properly called corporatism, since it's the merger of state and corporate power."
Quick example: Dick Cheney, for the first five years of his two terms as VP, was receiving millions in his golden parachute from Halliburton, who was awarded billions in no-bid contracts for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now we *know* that the GOP Whip is a KKK sympathizer, if not an outright member. Or, as they used to say about the other side, a "fellow traveller".
mark "you're entitled to your opinions, you are *not* entitled to your own facts"
Bull, as they say, shit. I got my AA in data processing in '85. In fact, I'd taken about all the programming courses by '80, and got my first job as a programmer in '80.
And I'll put down $5 that my code's better, more readable, more maintinable, and more easily enhanced than anything you've ever written, in any of the languages I've used.
"I would be forced to rely on C (which is incredibly complex for a junior developer)"
Really? That's how he thinks? Can we move him to teaching HR, where he'd fit right in with the other utter incompetents?
The first two course I took in programming, lo, these many decades ago, was a pseudo-assembly language with 13 instructions (including add and subtract), and then next was BAL (IBM mainframe assembler).
C, "complex"? I taught myself from K&R. I *really* don't want to contemplate working with this idiot's code, or his students' code.
Planted trees. Bought house close to work. Use public transit 9 days out of 10.
Unfortunately, it's not going to make up for you and your friends using any excess power you can for the fuck of it. It's like you're the jerks who toss their empty drink and food containers out of the car window in our street, for us to clean up.
You're not listening to Linux, you're not listening to the folks who forked Debian, you're not listening to all the sysadmins who work for a living in organizations, and have enough trouble getting the users to accept updates.
In addition to which, you replace it with something that requires more typing, and does not give any feedback. service nfs restart stopping nfsd starting nfsd etc.
systemctl restart nfs
And the entire concept of *BINARY* logfiles, when you're trying to fix a broken system is insanely stupid, as are xml configuration files when X won't run, or isn't installed (like on a server). And telling me that oh, it boots up *so* much faster means something *only* if I'm on a laptop. Anything else, hell, an fsck takes *far* longer.
It's a pain in the neck, and you won't make *any* accommodation to the 99% of us that have been doing it the way we have all along. Arrogance and solipsism, that's you, Poettering.
Come *on*, you expect HR departments to *find*, much less hire qualified women? Most hiring managers have a hard enough time finding *any* qualified candidates, since about 80% or more of HR departments are completely staffed by people who have NO IDEA of what the company actually does, NO IDEA of what they're hiring for, and DON'T CARE TO LEARN.
Come on - for anyone working for any medium to large size, do *you* think HR knows their ass from a hole in the ground? When I was last looking, around '09, Grumman wanted you to upload your resume (Word format only, please), and not even a cover letter, and they said that they found "qualified candidates" by DOING DATABASE SEARCHES. So, you with the six years of Oracle, you're not qualified to work on MySql, or Sybase. And oh, you haven't done this, and don't have that certification, never mind how many years you've been doing it, you're not qualified.
Come the Revolution, we're going to lead HR departments into the parking lot, throw asphalt on them, and PAVE THEM INTO THE ROADWAY, and *then*, and only then, will they have any social or corporate utility....
mark
PS: and for those of you who think women aren't good enough, I'd suggest that one of my daughters who's a programmer and tester for a major aerospace firm is a *hell* of a lot better than you are at her job.
And within a year or two, IBM announces that they're shipping more mainframes that year than they've ever sold before.
Datapoint: around 2001 or so, some crazy at IBM, using VM (IBM tech first developed in the seventies), maxed out a good-sized mainframe... running 48,000 *seperarate* instances of Linux, and it ran happy as a clam with "only" 32,000.
How many VMs you got on your server?
*I* have a nice toolbox in my head, with hammers and wrenches and screwdrivers, on how to program on everything from MS DOS to mainframes to Linux. I also know how to admin all but the mainframe, but know something of that. What, Ah say, what do you have to compare, Boy? One ballpeen hammer that only works in Windows?
mark, who prefers to use the right tool for the job
It'd be nice to see a lot of the people who would really *like* to go be able to go... again. "Again", because the GOP has been hacking at the Pell grants for decades. When I worked for a major city community college in the early eighties as a programmer, one of my jobs was the tape exchange with the feds, part of the grant process. Therefore, I knew from direct data that better than 80% of the students were there on Pell grants.
These days, from what I read, it's a fraction of that.
We keep hearing how education is the key to a better job... but the folks who don't have it can't afford it, because all they can get are part-time jobs flipping burgers and working in big box stores (while the owners of them, the Waltons, etc, are seeing increased billions of dollars for the few of them). More people with better jobs means a bigger economy... but the GOP and the billionaires paying them are running on two rules: 1, if you're not a billionaire, you're not working hard enough, and c) he who dies with the most money wins.
I consider them unAmerican, at least. And btw, when I was looking for my current house, I told my agent that if there was an HOA, I wouldn't even look at it.
Had a friend whose carriage lamp on the front of her house, which was really *cheap* aluminum, died, she had it replaced with a better one... and the HOA demanded she replace that with another cheap one. And then there was the time that someone from the HOA got her given a ticket for dogshit in her back yard (the one with the 5'+ high fence around it, and it was a bit after a snowstorm, and it was all melting. (The judge tore up the complaint).
No, they all are run by tin-plated petty dictators, with delusions of godhood. Unfuck 'em (no fucks for any of 'em).
Like I believe the FBI, that the hackers "got sloppy". They did that good a job, *then* got sloppy? There's no chance, of course, that whoever actually did it *delberately* put those false trails in, no, no....
Not. I'm probably old enough to be your grandfather, or at least your father, and I never heard that from my folks.
The "just work" crap is true, along with the "sealed for our lawyers' protection" attitude in the US. As an example, a few years back I picked up a cheap multimeter. Several years later, it wouldn't turn on one day. I flipped it over to find the hatch for the battery... and found "No user serviceable parts inside" embossed on the yellow plastic case, along with "DANGER: electric shock!". I pulled out a small Phillips head, opened the stupid thing up, swapped out the 9V battery, and closed it up, thereby voiding any warranty, I assume, as well as nearly getting myself electrocuted (NOT).
*Maybe* half of slashdotters would do that... but would your friends? Or would they go buy another? For that matter, how many of you do any work on your car, even just change the oil? (And yes, I've done it on the street.) Change the filters? Or do you take it to the dealer for crap like that, and massively overpay?
We went to see Interstallar in IMAX a month+ ago. $60 for the three of us, and that was *just* the tickets. All of that goes for the theatre and the producers - they still pay the staff on receipts from the popcorn. Tell me why it cost as much as some live concerts.... and then, think about the 50% of the population's weekly income.
Can't *imagine* why they wouldn't want to go tot he movies.... rather, than, say, paying their rent or putting food on the table.
Old Dilbert cartoon: http:/// dilbert.com/strips/comic/1991-06-17/ It's way cheaper than cubes, and OFFICES? The mushrooms want OFFICES?
In 1987, I was working at the Scummy Mortgage Co in Austin, TX (real name available upon request). I shared a wedge-shaped room with four others, no cube, just deskdeskdesk (other side) deskdeskdesk. Two of the folks were the sr. programmer and the systems analyst, and they were on the phones about 50% of the time. At one point, I was listening to some training tapes on a portable tape player; after a couple of days, having gotten through the tapes, I brought in some music. A day or two later, my boss walked by, and asked me if I'd finished the training. I told him I had, and that I'd brought music, to increase my productivity. He told me to take off the headphones and increase my productivity.
This is after the old VP of DP reitred. Before he did, he'd walk into the room occasionally, and stare at us. I asked another programmer, and she told me he used to do that when they'd had keypunchers, to make sure they were working, and seemed to expect us to be the same.
When I first started college, lo, these many years ago, at an orientation, one of the first things they told us was to find somewhere QUIET to do homework and studying.
It's cheap bullshit, all of it. And the managers, who mostly don't have a freakin' clue what we do, or even how to do their own jobs, want to stare at you to make sure you're working.
But us computer folks don't need a union to stop this sh*t, we'll put up with anything. As mushrooms, all they need to do is feed us bullshit, and keep us in the dark....
But with all the OOP being done, who cares about that anymore? Too big, too slow? Throw more storage and CPUs at it, and offload some of it to the user's machines, never mind that they've never tested their bloated crap on the generation or two old systems that most people use....
In the nineties, when I changed jobs, and didn't have a company paying for my subscriptions, I had to chose between Dr. Dobb's and the IEEE Comnpute - that was easy, I dropped Compute.
Slashdot Mirror
And you'll find exactly this thing, purchasable off-the-shelf, no 3-D printing needed....
mark
I just saw the report of this study... and then saw this:
Excerpt:
There is good and bad news for climate scientists. The good news: Most
Americans (79 percent) say that science and scientists are invaluable.
The bad news: On controversial topics such as climate change, a
significant number of Americans do not use science to inform their views.
Instead, they use political orientation and ideology, which are reflected
in their level of education, to decide whether humans are driving
planetary warming.
This comes from a public opinion poll released yesterday by Pew Research
Center and the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).
The poll captured a significant split between what scientists and the
general public believe on climate change.
In 2014, the vast majority (87 percent) of scientists said that human
activity is driving global warming, and yet only half the American public
ascribed to that view. And 77 percent of scientists said climate change is
a very serious problem. In comparison, only 33 percent of the general
public said it was a very serious problem in a 2013 poll.
--- end excerpt ---
http: // www.scientificamerican.com/article/big-gap-between-what-scientists-say-and-americans-think-about-climate-change/
mark "confused"
Let's see, this is where we spend big bucks raising *crops*, on *cropland*, to turn into fuel, as opposed to the original proposals to use biomass - that's waste, that's *weeds* (that need *zero* bucks on fertilizers and watering and pesticides to raise....
mark
Jealous, you poor stupid fool? Of what? Of, say, the Koch's, who have just announced almost a billion USD to do their best to *buy* not only who runs on the GOP side, but the elections? Who, along with friends like Murdoch (Faux News), have brainwashed you to hate democracy, and believe that it's not worth voting, that they're al the same (right, W and Gore were the same; so is Sen. Bernie Sanders and Sen. Mitch McConnel.)
Oh, and sucker? Together, my wife and I are probably in the top 5% (which is a lot less income then you think it is).
mark, who'd like his kids and his friends to have good paying jobs, and not wind up jobless
http : //www.theatlantic.com/ politics/archive/2014/04/the-irony-of-cliven-bundys-unconstitutional-stand/360587/
This is insightful? I suppose, if you're a libertarian.
Reality check: in the US, Congress almost *never*, sitting around in the room, decides, "hey, let's make a new regulation, we ain't doin' anything else anyway, and we need to look like we're working." This seems to be what the poster I'm replying to thinks.
Let's see: St. Ronnie and the Republicans push through banking and s&l "reform", and cut the budget for the regulators. Several years later, the S&L disaster, of which, according to the papers at the time, 30% was internal, white collar crime.
Deregulate telecoms*, and several years later, the tech bubble bursts, wiping out many retirement investments, and causing a recession.
Bush & co cut regulation of banking and stocks; and we get the current Lesser Depression.
Anyone else notice a pattern here? Sort of like less regulation and regulators, and the majority of us get screwed, and loose money, while the top 1% keep going up?
And I *do* have something against "people being rich". How 'bout we just have a 100% tax on all wealth above $1G? Or maybe above $500M? What', a hundred million dollars isn't enough incentive, people will just fraudulently get themselves on welfare, and sit back and drink light beer and watch tv? Don't bother talking about job creators, either: they've been getting richer and richer... WHERE ARE THE JOBS? (Other than the ones in Pakistan, and China, and India, and ....).
*And as for "coercion", is that like, oh, in the mid-nineties, when I worked for Ameritech, and we were ORDERED by our division president to write our Congresscritter and Senators to tell them to support deregulation, *and* he wanted copies of our letters (nice job you got dere, be a shame if somet'in' were to happen' to it)?
mark
That's really the question. Are you using the GPU for heavy-duty computing, or graphics, or...?
We've got money around here (we're a civilian-sector US gov't agency) using NVidia Tesla cards - in several servers, *two* of 'em - for heavy lifting with things like R. We do use the installable proprietary drives, and they work.
mark
I haven't heard of anyone using it in, oh, 20 years or so.
And yes, in '89-'90, I used it (along with C) at work.
Why would you *want* to use it? I mean, for one thing, it was invented as a teaching language, and didn't even have i/o (really!) - that was bolted on afterwards. For another, didn't it become java (I mean, can you say writeln, boys and grrls?)?
mark
Daily Caller - extremist right wing source
Forbes: the magazine of the ultra-wealthy
Got *anything* that isn't right wing extremist... oh, I know, all the media lies... except that on the extreme right.
mark
NeoFascists is what they are (except for the "Tea Party", who are racist neoConfederate traitors).
And did you think all fascists in the world disappeared with a *poof* (or by hanging) at the end of WWII?
Let's check with someone who speaks with more authority on fascism than any of you here, Mussolini, first fascist dictator, who liked to quote that "fascism is more properly called corporatism, since it's the merger of state and corporate power."
Quick example: Dick Cheney, for the first five years of his two terms as VP, was receiving millions in his golden parachute from Halliburton, who was awarded billions in no-bid contracts for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Now we *know* that the GOP Whip is a KKK sympathizer, if not an outright member. Or, as they used to say about the other side, a "fellow traveller".
mark "you're entitled to your opinions, you are *not* entitled to your own facts"
Bull, as they say, shit. I got my AA in data processing in '85. In fact, I'd taken about all the programming courses by '80, and got my first job as a programmer in '80.
And I'll put down $5 that my code's better, more readable, more maintinable, and more easily enhanced than anything you've ever written, in any of the languages I've used.
mark
"I would be forced to rely on C (which is incredibly complex for a junior developer)"
Really? That's how he thinks? Can we move him to teaching HR, where he'd fit right in with the other utter incompetents?
The first two course I took in programming, lo, these many decades ago, was a pseudo-assembly language with 13 instructions (including add and subtract), and then next was BAL (IBM mainframe assembler).
C, "complex"? I taught myself from K&R. I *really* don't want to contemplate working with this idiot's code, or his students' code.
mark
Dear asshole,
Planted trees. Bought house close to work. Use public transit 9 days out of 10.
Unfortunately, it's not going to make up for you and your friends using any excess power you can for the fuck of it. It's like you're the jerks who toss their empty drink and food containers out of the car window in our street, for us to clean up.
mark
Bullshit.
You're not listening to Linux, you're not listening to the folks who forked Debian, you're not listening to all the sysadmins who work for a living in organizations, and have enough trouble getting the users to accept updates.
In addition to which, you replace it with something that requires more typing, and does not give any feedback.
service nfs restart
stopping nfsd
starting nfsd
etc.
systemctl restart nfs
And the entire concept of *BINARY* logfiles, when you're trying to fix a broken system is insanely stupid, as are xml configuration files when X won't run, or isn't installed (like on a server). And telling me that oh, it boots up *so* much faster means something *only* if I'm on a laptop. Anything else, hell, an fsck takes *far* longer.
It's a pain in the neck, and you won't make *any* accommodation to the 99% of us that have been doing it the way we have all along. Arrogance and solipsism, that's you, Poettering.
mark
Come *on*, you expect HR departments to *find*, much less hire qualified women? Most hiring managers have a hard enough time finding *any* qualified candidates, since about 80% or more of HR departments are completely staffed by people who have NO IDEA of what the company actually does, NO IDEA of what they're hiring for, and DON'T CARE TO LEARN.
Come on - for anyone working for any medium to large size, do *you* think HR knows their ass from a hole in the ground? When I was last looking, around '09, Grumman wanted you to upload your resume (Word format only, please), and not even a cover letter, and they said that they found "qualified candidates" by DOING DATABASE SEARCHES. So, you with the six years of Oracle, you're not qualified to work on MySql, or Sybase. And oh, you haven't done this, and don't have that certification, never mind how many years you've been doing it, you're not qualified.
Come the Revolution, we're going to lead HR departments into the parking lot, throw asphalt on them, and PAVE THEM INTO THE ROADWAY, and *then*, and only then, will they have any social or corporate utility....
mark
PS: and for those of you who think women aren't good enough, I'd suggest that one of my daughters who's a programmer and tester for a major aerospace firm is a *hell* of a lot better than you are at her job.
"Mainframe declared dead, film at 11".
And within a year or two, IBM announces that they're shipping more mainframes that year than they've ever sold before.
Datapoint: around 2001 or so, some crazy at IBM, using VM (IBM tech first developed in the seventies), maxed out a good-sized mainframe... running 48,000 *seperarate* instances of Linux, and it ran happy as a clam with "only" 32,000.
How many VMs you got on your server?
*I* have a nice toolbox in my head, with hammers and wrenches and screwdrivers, on how to program on everything from MS DOS to mainframes to Linux. I also know how to admin all but the mainframe, but know something of that. What, Ah say, what do you have to compare, Boy? One ballpeen hammer that only works in Windows?
mark, who prefers to use the right tool for the job
It'd be nice to see a lot of the people who would really *like* to go be able to go... again. "Again", because the GOP has been hacking at the Pell grants for decades. When I worked for a major city community college in the early eighties as a programmer, one of my jobs was the tape exchange with the feds, part of the grant process. Therefore, I knew from direct data that better than 80% of the students were there on Pell grants.
These days, from what I read, it's a fraction of that.
We keep hearing how education is the key to a better job... but the folks who don't have it can't afford it, because all they can get are part-time jobs flipping burgers and working in big box stores (while the owners of them, the Waltons, etc, are seeing increased billions of dollars for the few of them). More people with better jobs means a bigger economy... but the GOP and the billionaires paying them are running on two rules: 1, if you're not a billionaire, you're not working hard enough, and c) he who dies with the most money wins.
mark
I consider them unAmerican, at least. And btw, when I was looking for my current house, I told my agent that if there was an HOA, I wouldn't even look at it.
Had a friend whose carriage lamp on the front of her house, which was really *cheap* aluminum, died, she had it replaced with a better one... and the HOA demanded she replace that with another cheap one. And then there was the time that someone from the HOA got her given a ticket for dogshit in her back yard (the one with the 5'+ high fence around it, and it was a bit after a snowstorm, and it was all melting. (The judge tore up the complaint).
No, they all are run by tin-plated petty dictators, with delusions of godhood. Unfuck 'em (no fucks for any of 'em).
mark
Like I believe the FBI, that the hackers "got sloppy". They did that good a job, *then* got sloppy? There's no chance, of course, that whoever actually did it *delberately* put those false trails in, no, no....
mark
How 'bout a civilization that disassembles a solar system and rebuilds it into a Dyson sphere? Doesn't that count?
mark "I won't say 'bigger than Galactus, I won't...."
Three points!
mark
Not. I'm probably old enough to be your grandfather, or at least your father, and I never heard that from my folks.
The "just work" crap is true, along with the "sealed for our lawyers' protection" attitude in the US. As an example, a few years back I picked up a cheap multimeter. Several years later, it wouldn't turn on one day. I flipped it over to find the hatch for the battery... and found "No user serviceable parts inside" embossed on the yellow plastic case, along with "DANGER: electric shock!". I pulled out a small Phillips head, opened the stupid thing up, swapped out the 9V battery, and closed it up, thereby voiding any warranty, I assume, as well as nearly getting myself electrocuted (NOT).
*Maybe* half of slashdotters would do that... but would your friends? Or would they go buy another? For that matter, how many of you do any work on your car, even just change the oil? (And yes, I've done it on the street.) Change the filters? Or do you take it to the dealer for crap like that, and massively overpay?
mark
We went to see Interstallar in IMAX a month+ ago. $60 for the three of us, and that was *just* the tickets. All of that goes for the theatre and the producers - they still pay the staff on receipts from the popcorn. Tell me why it cost as much as some live concerts.... and then, think about the 50% of the population's weekly income.
Can't *imagine* why they wouldn't want to go tot he movies.... rather, than, say, paying their rent or putting food on the table.
mark
Old Dilbert cartoon: http:/// dilbert.com/strips/comic/1991-06-17/
It's way cheaper than cubes, and OFFICES? The mushrooms want OFFICES?
In 1987, I was working at the Scummy Mortgage Co in Austin, TX (real name available upon request). I shared a wedge-shaped room with four others, no cube, just deskdeskdesk (other side) deskdeskdesk. Two of the folks were the sr. programmer and the systems analyst, and they were on the phones about 50% of the time. At one point, I was listening to some training tapes on a portable tape player; after a couple of days, having gotten through the tapes, I brought in some music. A day or two later, my boss walked by, and asked me if I'd finished the training. I told him I had, and that I'd brought music, to increase my productivity. He told me to take off the headphones and increase my productivity.
This is after the old VP of DP reitred. Before he did, he'd walk into the room occasionally, and stare at us. I asked another programmer, and she told me he used to do that when they'd had keypunchers, to make sure they were working, and seemed to expect us to be the same.
When I first started college, lo, these many years ago, at an orientation, one of the first things they told us was to find somewhere QUIET to do homework and studying.
It's cheap bullshit, all of it. And the managers, who mostly don't have a freakin' clue what we do, or even how to do their own jobs, want to stare at you to make sure you're working.
But us computer folks don't need a union to stop this sh*t, we'll put up with anything. As mushrooms, all they need to do is feed us bullshit, and keep us in the dark....
mark
...without overbyte.
But with all the OOP being done, who cares about that anymore? Too big, too slow? Throw more storage and CPUs at it, and offload some of it to the user's machines, never mind that they've never tested their bloated crap on the generation or two old systems that most people use....
In the nineties, when I changed jobs, and didn't have a company paying for my subscriptions, I had to chose between Dr. Dobb's and the IEEE Comnpute - that was easy, I dropped Compute.
It's a real shame.
mark