For me, it's either Real or mplayer. The latter almost *never* gags. Real, numerous times a day, pauses itself, half the time will not pick up, or it just stops.
Wish I could get mplayer to do *all* Windows media sites, so I could forget no-so-Real.
Given OOP, and overloading (which also makes debugging hell, if you weren't the one who wrote it), one wonders if the comparison isn't GOTO, but worse: COBOL's ALTER.*
I also note that the poster who mentioned both structured and OOP found a problem with OOP...but not with structured.
IMO, OO design is interesting...but OOP is nothing more than trying to enforce Ye Olde Good Coding Standards by compiler.
As usual, you can't *force* folks who write spaghetti/crappy code to write better code - they'll learn, or they won't (and hopefully, then, won't be promoted to management).
There's also the viewpoint that seems to be associated with OO that everything should be stateless...sort of like saying all data should be normalized. (Duhhhhh...)
The bottom line: my vote is for OOD, but structured code.
mark "and it's still functions, subroutines,
and parameter passing, not methods
and messaging...."
* My boss at the time I discovered that verb and I agreed that anyone using ALTER should be defenistrated, *then* fired.
Now, there's some parts of Texas I do love...but this ain't one of 'em. Consider that this is the state that so "terrified" of HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY IN BATHROOMS (horrors!) that they don't have doors on the stalls in the men's bathrooms on Interstate rest stops.
I disagree with one poster, who claimed that there are more murders in Detroit than Baghdad.
On the other hand, this *does* only map headlines. Two weeks ago, a completely idiotic media frenzy evoked by the US adminstration and the Republicans would have made Pinellas Pk, FL hotter than Iraq, Washington, D.C., or the Vatican. (Terry Schaivo).
You'd need to correlate this in time (has this been in the news in the last (curve) year (or whatever), and weight it with population (are there 15 people in 200 km, or 1.5m?)...and the interesting news would be in areas with little-to-no headlines right now, that have been headlines in the last six months, and have a good-sized population. That's where something is being ignored, in favor of Michael Jackson/the Pope/etc.
Let's see, can someone tell me the difference between our jobs being outsourced to India, or construction workers' jobs being outsourced to robots? According to the no-real-credibility self-proclaimed economists, the major thing fueling the "recovery" is housing.
So, if they loose their jobs, who the fsck is working in this country, other than nurses' aides, pizza deliverers, burger flippers, and CEOs?
The only thing wrong with Novell's purchase of WordPerfect was that
a) they were going up against M$ at the height
of their strength/momentum (can you
say "Netscape"?), and
b) their marketdroids couldn't market their
way out of a wet paper bag with the
help of the Terminator
WP was a *vastly* better prodocut than Turd for Windows, and if they'd get it back out for Linux AND SUPPORT IT, I'd dump OO.o in a heartbeat.
I could see it as a secure firewall/router, and I could see it as a "utility' Webserver - no content on it.
But add several of the 1G hard drives that fit into cameras in place of flash memory, and jacks for ethernet, CD, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, and you've got a computer in a belt buckle.
On the downside, if the FIB, er, FBI's after you, better check your jack.
Sir Richard Burton - NOT the actor, the one in the 1800s, who was there when they were digging up Troy, and Ur, and the other ancient, pre-Biblical cities of the Middle East, spoke something like 17 languages.
His dictum was to move to the country, and take a lover who spoke no English.
Obviously, it worked....
mark
So how are they testing their hypotheses?
on
How To Talk To Aliens
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· Score: 2, Insightful
Have they tried talking to dolphins, who we are pretty damn sure are intelligent?
Well, unlike 99% of y'all, I've worked on mainframes, and PCs, and workstations - that means IBM, and Unisys, and DOS, Windows, Win9x, NT, Linux, and various Unices.
I'll take any version of Unix (incl. Linux) over anything else. As I've said for nearly a dozen years, I've created reports in *nix that took me maybe 15 min. of thinking, and one very long command line, that in any other O/S, would have taken me anywhere from two days to two weeks.
mark, software developer, configuration/release manager, sysadmin, and looking for work
that women are as good programmers as guys, asks the software developer/Unix/Linux sysadmin/cfg. mgr, 24 yrs experience, with one of his daughters BS, CIS, Martha Washington College, 2004, now working for Boeing....
Maybe this release will fix the reason I went back to.91 (and I run Linux):
- random crashes, including one or two that
may have panicked my system, or crashed
KDE on my wife's
- the frequent loss of file associations
- not wanting to run.wmv in mplayer
(and NO BLOODY WAY to manually tell
it what I wanted something opened in)
Gee, the comments I skimmed were *awfully* thin....
Folks, it this happened 10 ly away, you not only would not be reading about this on any media, since it would *all* be toast, but by now most of us would be rotting corpses...assuming that even bacteria were still alive above, say, 30 meters undersea.
I have no *clue* what the administration's "Iran know how in six months" crap is, nor do I see any problem with terrorists building a bomb (though the latter might wind up with a nasty melter, rather than a BOOOM).
All they'd have to do is have someone look up what that kid wrote in the late seventies. He got a visit from the FBI, I think - his science project was "how to build a nuclear bomb", and they looked *really* dumb when he showed them that he'd only gotten stuff out of magazines and standard texts.
Hell, I have a 20 year old issue of, umm, Mother Jones? that has a cover story on how to do it. Of course, the hardest part is the centerfuging, when you have the liquid in a bucket, and have to spin around as fast as you can in the living room for half an hour.
AFAIK, partly from having looked at jobs with them (and finding every single job wants a security clearance), SAIC does almost *nothing* that's not intelligence- or military-related.
Thirty-five years ago, I worked at the Franklin Institute Research Labs in Philly. The Instritute (a science museum) had a library with things back to its founding in the 1820s.
The library was open to members (I'd been a member since I was about 12 - didn't cost much.)
The Labs got themselves a "library research" department. They would get subscriptions to scientific journals it needed for its contracts...then drop them when the contracts ended.
Then they got complete control of the library. They SOLD OFF a major chunk of those historical books and journals. Gone from the public view. Do I expect less from this merger?
According to the text of their statement, reported on the BBC, they listened to Bush's Coronation, er, Inaugural speech, and his State of the Union, and what adminitstration officials are saying to Congress, and concluded that Bush wants to overthrow the regime.
Why on *earth* would they be afraid that the US might bomb them, or even invade them? I just *can't* Iraq, er, imagine why they'd think this of the US.
So, who here is enlisting so that they can fight in a nuclear war agasist North Korea, which of course will result in a few casualties...like fallout all over the west coast of the US and Canada? Who here, that's in the US, is offering to pay more taxes for this?
The biggest difference between Windoze and *nix is that Gates made the *dreadful* design decision to move the GUI *into* the operating system for 95, as opposed to *nix, or, for that matter, even Windows 3.x, where they are on *top* of the o/s.
Had M$ put virtual memory and at *least* foreground/background multitasking into DOS 3.0, when it was clear it was needed, in '83, Windows would have worked a *hell* of a lot better....
Art is something that has both expressive and descriptive power. It is another language that most of us share, that attempts to convey what the artist is seeing or feeling.
Computer-generated 'art' is therefore not 'art', in that sense, unless you want to make sure that the software passes a Turing Test first, unless the auther of the software wants to try to make the claim that the software is espressing *their* vews.
Now, it *could* be argued that computer-generated art is an Art - that is, and "occult" Art, like scrying (looking in a crystal ball, pool of water, whatever), and using that to look within yourself.
Of course, in that case, it's *your* art, not the developer's or the software's.
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For me, it's either Real or mplayer. The latter almost *never* gags. Real, numerous times a day, pauses itself, half the time will not pick up, or it just stops.
Wish I could get mplayer to do *all* Windows media sites, so I could forget no-so-Real.
mark
Given OOP, and overloading (which also makes debugging hell, if you weren't the one who wrote it), one wonders if the comparison isn't GOTO, but worse: COBOL's ALTER.*
I also note that the poster who mentioned both structured and OOP found a problem with OOP...but not with structured.
IMO, OO design is interesting...but OOP is nothing more than trying to enforce Ye Olde Good Coding Standards by compiler.
As usual, you can't *force* folks who write spaghetti/crappy code to write better code - they'll learn, or they won't (and hopefully, then, won't be promoted to management).
There's also the viewpoint that seems to be associated with OO that everything should be stateless...sort of like saying all data should be normalized. (Duhhhhh...)
The bottom line: my vote is for OOD, but structured code.
mark "and it's still functions, subroutines,
and parameter passing, not methods
and messaging...."
* My boss at the time I discovered that verb and I agreed that anyone using ALTER should be defenistrated, *then* fired.
Now, there's some parts of Texas I do love...but this ain't one of 'em. Consider that this is the state that so "terrified" of HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY IN BATHROOMS (horrors!) that they don't have doors on the stalls in the men's bathrooms on Interstate rest stops.
No sh*t.
mark, naturalized Texan
I disagree with one poster, who claimed that there are more murders in Detroit than Baghdad.
On the other hand, this *does* only map headlines. Two weeks ago, a completely idiotic media frenzy evoked by the US adminstration and the Republicans would have made Pinellas Pk, FL hotter than Iraq, Washington, D.C., or the Vatican. (Terry Schaivo).
You'd need to correlate this in time (has this been in the news in the last (curve) year (or whatever), and weight it with population (are there 15 people in 200 km, or 1.5m?)...and the interesting news would be in areas with little-to-no headlines right now, that have been headlines in the last six months, and have a good-sized population. That's where something is being ignored, in favor of Michael Jackson/the Pope/etc.
mark
Let's see, can someone tell me the difference between our jobs being outsourced to India, or construction workers' jobs being outsourced to robots? According to the no-real-credibility self-proclaimed economists, the major thing fueling the "recovery" is housing.
So, if they loose their jobs, who the fsck is working in this country, other than nurses' aides, pizza deliverers, burger flippers, and CEOs?
mark
How will they target the suppression to attack *only* the cancer cells' genes' telomeres, and not the telemoeres on the normal cells?
mark
The only thing wrong with Novell's purchase of WordPerfect was that
a) they were going up against M$ at the height
of their strength/momentum (can you
say "Netscape"?), and
b) their marketdroids couldn't market their
way out of a wet paper bag with the
help of the Terminator
WP was a *vastly* better prodocut than Turd for Windows, and if they'd get it back out for Linux AND SUPPORT IT, I'd dump OO.o in a heartbeat.
mark "can yuo say 'dog'?"
I could see it as a secure firewall/router, and I could see it as a "utility' Webserver - no content on it.
But add several of the 1G hard drives that fit into cameras in place of flash memory, and jacks for ethernet, CD, keyboard, mouse, and monitor, and you've got a computer in a belt buckle.
On the downside, if the FIB, er, FBI's after you, better check your jack.
mark "even paranoids have real enemies"
Spock is on Vulcan, and McCoy is considerably older than, oh, dammit Jim, you're sort of an actor, not a singer...
mark
Sir Richard Burton - NOT the actor, the one in the 1800s, who was there when they were digging up Troy, and Ur, and the other ancient, pre-Biblical cities of the Middle East, spoke something like 17 languages.
His dictum was to move to the country, and take a lover who spoke no English.
Obviously, it worked....
mark
Have they tried talking to dolphins, who we are pretty damn sure are intelligent?
mark
The Dems, at least, aren't in lockstep. The Reptilians, however, overwhelmingly vote party line...and that's whatever DeLay says it is.
You voted for them, you're getting what you voted for. Enjoy.
mark
Well, unlike 99% of y'all, I've worked on mainframes, and PCs, and workstations - that means IBM, and Unisys, and DOS, Windows, Win9x, NT, Linux, and various Unices.
I'll take any version of Unix (incl. Linux) over anything else. As I've said for nearly a dozen years, I've created reports in *nix that took me maybe 15 min. of thinking, and one very long command line, that in any other O/S, would have taken me anywhere from two days to two weeks.
mark, software developer, configuration/release manager, sysadmin, and looking for work
that women are as good programmers as guys, asks the software developer/Unix/Linux sysadmin/cfg. mgr, 24 yrs experience, with one of his daughters BS, CIS, Martha Washington College, 2004, now working for Boeing....
mark
Maybe this release will fix the reason I went back to .91 (and I run Linux): .wmv in mplayer
- random crashes, including one or two that
may have panicked my system, or crashed
KDE on my wife's
- the frequent loss of file associations
- not wanting to run
(and NO BLOODY WAY to manually tell
it what I wanted something opened in)
mark
Gee, the comments I skimmed were *awfully* thin....
Folks, it this happened 10 ly away, you not only would not be reading about this on any media, since it would *all* be toast, but by now most of us would be rotting corpses...assuming that even bacteria were still alive above, say, 30 meters undersea.
mark "medium toast, please"
I have no *clue* what the administration's "Iran know how in six months" crap is, nor do I see any problem with terrorists building a bomb (though the latter might wind up with a nasty melter, rather than a BOOOM).
All they'd have to do is have someone look up what that kid wrote in the late seventies. He got a visit from the FBI, I think - his science project was "how to build a nuclear bomb", and they looked *really* dumb when he showed them that he'd only gotten stuff out of magazines and standard texts.
Hell, I have a 20 year old issue of, umm, Mother Jones? that has a cover story on how to do it. Of course, the hardest part is the centerfuging, when you have the liquid in a bucket, and have to spin around as fast as you can in the living room for half an hour.
mark "this is 'secret'?"
Usenet delcared dead, film at 11.*
mark
* First seen on usenet somewhere in the eighties....
AFAIK, partly from having looked at jobs with them (and finding every single job wants a security clearance), SAIC does almost *nothing* that's not intelligence- or military-related.
Don't y'all feel *so* secure?
ROTFLMAO!!!
mark
Freakin' MBAs and Everything is Business....
Thirty-five years ago, I worked at the Franklin Institute Research Labs in Philly. The Instritute (a science museum) had a library with things back to its founding in the 1820s.
The library was open to members (I'd been a member since I was about 12 - didn't cost much.)
The Labs got themselves a "library research" department. They would get subscriptions to scientific journals it needed for its contracts...then drop them when the contracts ended.
Then they got complete control of the library. They SOLD OFF a major chunk of those historical books and journals. Gone from the public view. Do I expect less from this merger?
mark
According to the text of their statement, reported on the BBC, they listened to Bush's Coronation, er, Inaugural speech, and his State of the Union, and what adminitstration officials are saying to Congress, and concluded that Bush wants to overthrow the regime.
Why on *earth* would they be afraid that the US might bomb them, or even invade them? I just *can't* Iraq, er, imagine why they'd think this of the US.
So, who here is enlisting so that they can fight in a nuclear war agasist North Korea, which of course will result in a few casualties...like fallout all over the west coast of the US and Canada? Who here, that's in the US, is offering to pay more taxes for this?
Right, just as I thought.
mark
Because it's afraid Bush will find oil on one of its planets and invade it, obviously.
Why does Windows suck? The simple answer?
The biggest difference between Windoze and *nix is that Gates made the *dreadful* design decision to move the GUI *into* the operating system for 95, as opposed to *nix, or, for that matter, even Windows 3.x, where they are on *top* of the o/s.
Had M$ put virtual memory and at *least* foreground/background multitasking into DOS 3.0, when it was clear it was needed, in '83, Windows would have worked a *hell* of a lot better....
mark
Art is something that has both expressive and descriptive power. It is another language that most of us share, that attempts to convey what the artist is seeing or feeling.
Computer-generated 'art' is therefore not 'art', in that sense, unless you want to make sure that the software passes a Turing Test first, unless the auther of the software wants to try to make the claim that the software is espressing *their* vews.
Now, it *could* be argued that computer-generated art is an Art - that is, and "occult" Art, like scrying (looking in a crystal ball, pool of water, whatever), and using that to look within yourself.
Of course, in that case, it's *your* art, not the developer's or the software's.
mark
I am told that the Sierra Club came out with a report that said gave it 10 years...five years ago.
And as for the idiots who think "it won't happen", consider the problem of the pool of water hyacynths (also known as 'the 29th day').
mark "I suppose y'all agree with Limburger
that there's no such thing as light
pollution, either"