IT was, that's what the article I linked elsewhere said their plan was.
I didn't know anything about the Aviation Week plan. As much as I hate the pork barrel system, I was glad to see Musk suggest building parts of it in the External Tank facility. Because the plan will only be accepted if it keeps jobs in certain districts.
SpaceX plan costs $1 Billion just to develop the Merlin 2 engines and "qualify" them on Falcon 9 rockets in 3 years. I assume by qualify they mean flight tested, I don't know if a Heavy Lift vehicle needs to be man-rated. Of course the Falcon 9 will have to be man rated to carry a Dragon capsule with crew onboard, so if qualify means man rated so much the better.
You have $9 Billion left to build the Rocket, and finish the Dragon capsule crew module version which is already funded.
As someone else pointed out the article mentions sprayed concrete. The only air purifying element used in concrete is Titanium Dioxide. The real question is are there any other methods of getting Titanium Dioxide to have a decent surface area without using concrete as a carrier? Like tiny beads, threads?
Maybe these will become fashionable in China.
And from our last discussion on Titanium Dioxide said its in Toothpaste, almost every kind of paint, when will we have an Air Cleaning housepaint?
Maybe not tractors per se, but bulldozer/backhoe experience might be a requirement for grading build sites. Experience with various attachments to the power take off might also be a plus.
How much is going to be constructed above ground, and how much is going to be in caves or lava tubes is still up in the air.
Now folks with experience building hydroponic gardens and grow lamp setups, CO2 enriched atmospheres. They might have a better chance on Mars, but where would you find them?
Oddly enough if there were certain research concerns about the colony itself, you could be janitor on the colony and still provide valuable medical research data, drive your solar powered SUV out to Spirit or Discovery and dig them out of a ditch.
Someone capable of reading gauges and taking direction would be useful in some automated research or environmental disciplines. Think lights out management server racks that still need someone to kick them manually when the remote reboot doesn't work.
Can you shovel snow? A lot of early colony work will be gathering CO2 and Water Ice from the surface and bringing them back to the colony. A lot of that could possibly be done with specialized gear, but machines break down.
Can you squeegee Solar panels? There is a lot of room in colonies for non-experts, you don't want the Doctor, Mission Psychologiest, Brain Surgeon, Air Scrubber tech spending their time on menial tasks do you?
In fact this puts paid to the not everyone gets to be an astronaut issue, colonies need everyone even burger flippers. Sure lots of the mission specialists will be cross trained multi-disciplinary experts, but there need to be worker bees as well.
Games would have to run their own local servers, SMS texting would be better off than most services due to the size of the messages, ditto tweeting.
Youtube should be fine, 20+ minute buffer for the video to start, but once something is on the local buffering proxy server, it should load up pretty quickly.
The real question is how much bandwidth would be available to civillians writing home, scientific data back to research universities.
How difficult would it be to have DirecTV point a feed at the Red Planet for some things Broadcast would still beat interactive.
Wouldn't work, clean driving mom or dad loans their car to their kid with 6 months on their license and bang fender bender.
Like computers you should assume everyone is compromised/an idiot, talking on their cell, hasn't checked their tire pressure in years and has no brakes.
Of course you're supposed to allow space between cars to allow for uncertainty, time to slow down, but people don't do that anymore.
To the point of the article we just bought a 2011 Equinox in October.
My Wife's new crossover has a bluetooth integrated handsfree telephone setup is safer than talking on my Droid while driving, and in DC one is legal and the other isn't. I really like the backup assist camera, sometimes I want one in the front for parking in tight spaces. I still use my Droid for turn by turn instead of the On-Star, ditto Droid over the On-Star calling plan. The Flex Fuel is useless to us due to a lack of nearby stations, but the All Wheel Drive is nice when it snows. The car has a USB charger and auxiliary port for iPods, it's supposed to let you control the iPod from the steering wheeel if you plug it in via USB instead of the Headphone jack. It has heated seats (nice so far this winter) and extra power outlets, cupholders, moonroof, roof rack, tow package, CD, XM, it can tell me what my tire pressure is in each wheel but not inflate/deflate them. Compass direction the car is heading, outside temperature (sometimes important). On-Star emails me a monthly diagnostic, and there is also an App for that.
The 4 Cylinder version had an Eco button to get it past the 32 MPG suggested highway it was capable of. The 4 cylinder we tried took a little too long from foot on the pedal to acceleration, this was vnoticeable in the 4 blocks around the dealership 40 mph testdrive. We got the 6 cylinder, but there was is Eco button available.
Horsepower it seems is like money once you have enough/a sufficiant amount of it, then other things become important.
To traditionalists, the new climate control is set like a thermostat and tries to regulate the car to a temperature, this sucks I want hot and cold and I'll regulate it to what I want. The automatic gearbox has a manual setting with buttons on the stick to go up/down a gear, its hard to figure out the power band and use this thing, I can drive a stick, but I just leave this thing in drive.
No, the F-35 is a DOG that's why the finished product will be "vastly superior" besides you can say anything you want about a prototype until you have to ship one.
You need to consider the power of the engines compared to the weight of the fully loaded airframe, compare how much wing area you have again compared to weight, there is a lot of physics folks can guess at based on the photos.
They you have to consider things like the controls, John Boyd started the whole idea of comparative analysis with fighter planes based off of our Saber jets killing Mig-15s 10 to 1 despite the common wisdom being the Mig was the vastly superior aircraft. The Mig could turn tighter but the Mig had manual cable controls that the pilot had to overcome with brute strength, like a car with no power steering. The Saber had Hydraulic controls which made it easier to fly. The Mig had a manual gunsight preset for a fixed range engagement anything outside that range the pilot had to adjust for. The Saber had a radar gun sight which adjusted for him.
If you're really interested look for Dogfights or Showdown Air Combat on the History/Military channels sometime.
Anyways the Russian fighter that came out a few months back is not even as good as a rigged demo yet, this Chinese one will be just as bad for a while.
There is one thing sort of constant about overestimating enemy aircraft capabilities, one: you don't want to be wrong just because they traditionally build crap, but two: there is no budget for new 4th and 5th gen fighters if the enemies threat isn't credible so some folks with a vested interest might pad their estimates.
Wait until this thing flies at one of the big European airshows and it'll at least be half baked.
Except for threat modelling done by the RAND corporation nothing shows the F-35 to be effective in Combat.
Wargames conducted with friendlies show F-15s, F-16s, F-18s living longer than the F-35s after the Opposing Force has 'Flaming Datum' the F-35's stealth characteristics don't mean diddly.
Flaming Datum is when one of the Opposing Forces blows up from a Sidewinder hit. At that point they know you are there, and the very small radar cross section is still enough to let them know where you are and they shoot at you, if you can't evade, you die.
Lemme guess you need the chart to watch the movie?
That's all I ever heard about Primer was some people couldn't follow the movie without a chart. So when I found it on Netflix I tried to watch it, was completely bored by the first 20 minutes or so, but kept waiting for it to get complicated.
By the time they were in the aircraft hangar I kept thinking it could have been a Twilight Zone episode and what a decent job they did for what was obviously no budget and 1 special effect in the beginning.
A million fangirls who only ever would have been million fangirls-1 that were still dissappointed if Tennant had chosen 1 of them.
Of course the conventional wisdom would seem to say Clone Tennant and the fangirls can all be happy, unfortunately they DID clone Tennant, and now he's run off with the clone.
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is at the end of its life cycle." Nikolai Pryanishnikov then returned his home under a nearby bridge.
You do the scenes in shorter takes and ensure everyone is standing at their marks at the beggining and ending of every scene, you can touch up the transition frames with CGI.
The major peers trade traffic with each other and the billing of that traffic usually ends up a wash.
Google crawls the intarwebz using bandwidth, then presents search results to people also using bandwidth. I expect they have a pretty heavy bill for the pipes they use now.
If Google doesn't want to pay for more exclusive access speeds or priority of service why would their bill go any higher than it is right now?
Google spent a lot of cash on having distributed datacenters so people get fast results without priority of service agreements, so why would they bother paying for such things now?
I understand if Bing started paying for Priority service Google might seem slower, but really most of Google's speed comes from their computers, indexing technology and distributed datacenters, not backroom service agreements.
Should I assume UK Culture minister Ed Vaizey was picking on Google because it's aname everybody knows.
Drop Greenhouses, Solar Farms, Wind Turbines, Housing, Water/Waste Processing Plant, Workshop, Air Scrubbers, and little Wall-e Robots to assemble/maintain them. Send multiple modules of each.
Wait to see which modules crash, and which ones survive landing. Drag them all to a pre-determined site. Assemble the Power Stations, once the robots can safely recharge themselves, assemble everything else.
Have the robots scour the surface for Dry Ice and Water Ice, relocate both to the greenhouses and begin seeding plants.
Wait six months to see what breaks down, ensure the power plants, air and water facilities are functioning properly. Then send some humans with spare parts and any revised designs based on what broke in the first 6 months.
And of course do all of this in New Mexico and Antartica first.
Maybe the Wall-e robots can be trained to build the habitats autonomously X-Prize style so they don't require 45 minute delays when doing their barn raisings.
All modules and habitats, machines etc, reduced to the fewest number of parts and materials possible with a high parts commonality between them. The settlers won't be able to fabricate much when they get there, but they shouldn't be equipped with much gear they can't repair themselves.
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IT was, that's what the article I linked elsewhere said their plan was.
I didn't know anything about the Aviation Week plan. As much as I hate the pork barrel system, I was glad to see Musk suggest building parts of it in the External Tank facility. Because the plan will only be accepted if it keeps jobs in certain districts.
SpaceX plan costs $1 Billion just to develop the Merlin 2 engines and "qualify" them on Falcon 9 rockets in 3 years. I assume by qualify they mean flight tested, I don't know if a Heavy Lift vehicle needs to be man-rated. Of course the Falcon 9 will have to be man rated to carry a Dragon capsule with crew onboard, so if qualify means man rated so much the better.
You have $9 Billion left to build the Rocket, and finish the Dragon capsule crew module version which is already funded.
According to Elon's testimony before congress SpaceX already has plans for a heavy lift vehicle should NASA ask for such a vehicle.
Ooh I was just going from memory of the Wiki article, I hadn't read this
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=space&id=news/asd/2010/08/05/07.xml
Presuemable its $1 Billion to develop the Merlin 2 engines...
I guess all they have to do is bid it at what Constellation is budgeted for...
Oddly enough for something like this there aren't any goofy ones.
There are some retro car inspired ones, but nothing too wierd.
As someone else pointed out the article mentions sprayed concrete. The only air purifying element used in concrete is Titanium Dioxide. The real question is are there any other methods of getting Titanium Dioxide to have a decent surface area without using concrete as a carrier? Like tiny beads, threads?
Maybe these will become fashionable in China.
And from our last discussion on Titanium Dioxide said its in Toothpaste, almost every kind of paint, when will we have an Air Cleaning housepaint?
You have missed the point of a game, recreation necessarily distracts us from practical matters.
Unless the colony is well staffed with Psychs and loaded with Anti-depressants, you're going to need recreational outlets.
Maybe not tractors per se, but bulldozer/backhoe experience might be a requirement for grading build sites. Experience with various attachments to the power take off might also be a plus.
How much is going to be constructed above ground, and how much is going to be in caves or lava tubes is still up in the air.
Now folks with experience building hydroponic gardens and grow lamp setups, CO2 enriched atmospheres. They might have a better chance on Mars, but where would you find them?
Oddly enough if there were certain research concerns about the colony itself, you could be janitor on the colony and still provide valuable medical research data, drive your solar powered SUV out to Spirit or Discovery and dig them out of a ditch.
Someone capable of reading gauges and taking direction would be useful in some automated research or environmental disciplines. Think lights out management server racks that still need someone to kick them manually when the remote reboot doesn't work.
Can you shovel snow? A lot of early colony work will be gathering CO2 and Water Ice from the surface and bringing them back to the colony. A lot of that could possibly be done with specialized gear, but machines break down.
Can you squeegee Solar panels? There is a lot of room in colonies for non-experts, you don't want the Doctor, Mission Psychologiest, Brain Surgeon, Air Scrubber tech spending their time on menial tasks do you?
In fact this puts paid to the not everyone gets to be an astronaut issue, colonies need everyone even burger flippers. Sure lots of the mission specialists will be cross trained multi-disciplinary experts, but there need to be worker bees as well.
Games would have to run their own local servers, SMS texting would be better off than most services due to the size of the messages, ditto tweeting.
Youtube should be fine, 20+ minute buffer for the video to start, but once something is on the local buffering proxy server, it should load up pretty quickly.
The real question is how much bandwidth would be available to civillians writing home, scientific data back to research universities.
How difficult would it be to have DirecTV point a feed at the Red Planet for some things Broadcast would still beat interactive.
Wouldn't work, clean driving mom or dad loans their car to their kid with 6 months on their license and bang fender bender.
Like computers you should assume everyone is compromised/an idiot, talking on their cell, hasn't checked their tire pressure in years and has no brakes.
Of course you're supposed to allow space between cars to allow for uncertainty, time to slow down, but people don't do that anymore.
To the point of the article we just bought a 2011 Equinox in October.
My Wife's new crossover has a bluetooth integrated handsfree telephone setup is safer than talking on my Droid while driving, and in DC one is legal and the other isn't. I really like the backup assist camera, sometimes I want one in the front for parking in tight spaces. I still use my Droid for turn by turn instead of the On-Star, ditto Droid over the On-Star calling plan. The Flex Fuel is useless to us due to a lack of nearby stations, but the All Wheel Drive is nice when it snows. The car has a USB charger and auxiliary port for iPods, it's supposed to let you control the iPod from the steering wheeel if you plug it in via USB instead of the Headphone jack. It has heated seats (nice so far this winter) and extra power outlets, cupholders, moonroof, roof rack, tow package, CD, XM, it can tell me what my tire pressure is in each wheel but not inflate/deflate them. Compass direction the car is heading, outside temperature (sometimes important). On-Star emails me a monthly diagnostic, and there is also an App for that.
The 4 Cylinder version had an Eco button to get it past the 32 MPG suggested highway it was capable of. The 4 cylinder we tried took a little too long from foot on the pedal to acceleration, this was vnoticeable in the 4 blocks around the dealership 40 mph testdrive. We got the 6 cylinder, but there was is Eco button available.
Horsepower it seems is like money once you have enough/a sufficiant amount of it, then other things become important.
To traditionalists, the new climate control is set like a thermostat and tries to regulate the car to a temperature, this sucks I want hot and cold and I'll regulate it to what I want. The automatic gearbox has a manual setting with buttons on the stick to go up/down a gear, its hard to figure out the power band and use this thing, I can drive a stick, but I just leave this thing in drive.
The Japanes already want the F-22 badly... we've offered them the F-35 they really don't want ti.
Japanese F-22s would be a licensing deal, like their F-15s and slightly larger F-16 clones, Japanese F-22s would be built by Mitsubishi.
No, the F-35 is a DOG that's why the finished product will be "vastly superior" besides you can say anything you want about a prototype until you have to ship one.
You need to consider the power of the engines compared to the weight of the fully loaded airframe, compare how much wing area you have again compared to weight, there is a lot of physics folks can guess at based on the photos.
They you have to consider things like the controls, John Boyd started the whole idea of comparative analysis with fighter planes based off of our Saber jets killing Mig-15s 10 to 1 despite the common wisdom being the Mig was the vastly superior aircraft. The Mig could turn tighter but the Mig had manual cable controls that the pilot had to overcome with brute strength, like a car with no power steering. The Saber had Hydraulic controls which made it easier to fly. The Mig had a manual gunsight preset for a fixed range engagement anything outside that range the pilot had to adjust for. The Saber had a radar gun sight which adjusted for him.
If you're really interested look for Dogfights or Showdown Air Combat on the History/Military channels sometime.
Anyways the Russian fighter that came out a few months back is not even as good as a rigged demo yet, this Chinese one will be just as bad for a while.
There is one thing sort of constant about overestimating enemy aircraft capabilities, one: you don't want to be wrong just because they traditionally build crap, but two: there is no budget for new 4th and 5th gen fighters if the enemies threat isn't credible so some folks with a vested interest might pad their estimates.
Wait until this thing flies at one of the big European airshows and it'll at least be half baked.
Except for threat modelling done by the RAND corporation nothing shows the F-35 to be effective in Combat.
Wargames conducted with friendlies show F-15s, F-16s, F-18s living longer than the F-35s after the Opposing Force has 'Flaming Datum' the F-35's stealth characteristics don't mean diddly.
Flaming Datum is when one of the Opposing Forces blows up from a Sidewinder hit. At that point they know you are there, and the very small radar cross section is still enough to let them know where you are and they shoot at you, if you can't evade, you die.
Lemme guess you need the chart to watch the movie?
That's all I ever heard about Primer was some people couldn't follow the movie without a chart. So when I found it on Netflix I tried to watch it, was completely bored by the first 20 minutes or so, but kept waiting for it to get complicated.
By the time they were in the aircraft hangar I kept thinking it could have been a Twilight Zone episode and what a decent job they did for what was obviously no budget and 1 special effect in the beginning.
I actually really liked it by the end.
A million fangirls who only ever would have been million fangirls-1 that were still dissappointed if Tennant had chosen 1 of them.
Of course the conventional wisdom would seem to say Clone Tennant and the fangirls can all be happy, unfortunately they DID clone Tennant, and now he's run off with the clone.
From 1007 to the 1600s the RAV4 EV was a Palanquin carried by 4 Eta (unclean worker caste).
Eta Vehicle
Equine Vehicle 1600s
(Luminiferous) Ether Vehicle 1800s
Electric Vehicle 1900s
"We must bear in mind that Linux is not a Russian OS and, moreover, is at the end of its life cycle." Nikolai Pryanishnikov then returned his home under a nearby bridge.
Because our brains are pattern matching engines and we need to see patterns in order to recognize and or emulate them.
The fitting in part is a necessary part of growing up and we don't have a better way to do it yet.
Why has nobody mentioned Michio Kaku yet? I know he's too old, but he's the only one on TV right now with the old Carl Sagan vibe.
Also Phil Platt for Bad Universe if there were more episodes.
You do the scenes in shorter takes and ensure everyone is standing at their marks at the beggining and ending of every scene, you can touch up the transition frames with CGI.
Google pays for internet right now right?
The major peers trade traffic with each other and the billing of that traffic usually ends up a wash.
Google crawls the intarwebz using bandwidth, then presents search results to people also using bandwidth. I expect they have a pretty heavy bill for the pipes they use now.
If Google doesn't want to pay for more exclusive access speeds or priority of service why would their bill go any higher than it is right now?
Google spent a lot of cash on having distributed datacenters so people get fast results without priority of service agreements, so why would they bother paying for such things now?
I understand if Bing started paying for Priority service Google might seem slower, but really most of Google's speed comes from their computers, indexing technology and distributed datacenters, not backroom service agreements.
Should I assume UK Culture minister Ed Vaizey was picking on Google because it's aname everybody knows.
Your servers need a blanket.
Oh, you thought I meant THAT Linus...
Drop Greenhouses, Solar Farms, Wind Turbines, Housing, Water/Waste Processing Plant, Workshop, Air Scrubbers, and little Wall-e Robots to assemble/maintain them. Send multiple modules of each.
Wait to see which modules crash, and which ones survive landing. Drag them all to a pre-determined site. Assemble the Power Stations, once the robots can safely recharge themselves, assemble everything else.
Have the robots scour the surface for Dry Ice and Water Ice, relocate both to the greenhouses and begin seeding plants.
Wait six months to see what breaks down, ensure the power plants, air and water facilities are functioning properly. Then send some humans with spare parts and any revised designs based on what broke in the first 6 months.
And of course do all of this in New Mexico and Antartica first.
Maybe the Wall-e robots can be trained to build the habitats autonomously X-Prize style so they don't require 45 minute delays when doing their barn raisings.
All modules and habitats, machines etc, reduced to the fewest number of parts and materials possible with a high parts commonality between them. The settlers won't be able to fabricate much when they get there, but they shouldn't be equipped with much gear they can't repair themselves.
Navy already has the Boom Gun, you need a man portable POWER supply.
"Inside a prosthetic shell of metal and hydraulics, Raytheon test engineer Rex Jameson is putting an XOS-2 exoskeleton through its paces."
How many of his kids is J. Jonah going to send after Spidey?