Yeah, you probably wouldn't (neither would I). But I bet someone in the data-chain would be. If not you, then the site host. If not them, then probably your ISP. If not them, then probably the other persons' ISP. The whole idea of 'information wants to be free' applies to more than government secrets.
That's laughably wrong. First of all, it's not "so much data". Even if it were trillions of IP a day that would easily fit of any run-of-the-mill SATA hard drive. We are talking 4 octets per visit here, not tomes of Emerson.
Secondly, there are no laws preventing a server or service owner from keeping records of other people using their equipment. Now, giving that info up to authorities without a warrant might be bad, but keeping the info sure is not.
If a website doesn't record IPs of posters, it probably doesn't exist. Now, a web server might not keep logs, but all website access IP's are logged somewhere. Either on the server, the router, or the ISP. Unless, of course, someone controls all the layers and specifically writes a utility to completely purge them. But I doubt it. At the very least, IP logs are used for basic diagnostics.
Indeed. It's even more irritating when you see it in action. I used to work a half-block away from the County seat building in a decent sized city on WA State. Every year we would see a lot of County employees milling around our building after they would normally have gone home. Once I asked one of them about it and he said they had to 'meet their annual overtime budget' or they would lose it the next year. So they just 'made' overtime once a year. Tax dollars at work.
"The NSA says the tool, called the USBDetect 3.0 Computer Network Defense Tool"
So if this is 3.0 can I assume they have had the tool for some time. Why are bothering to tell anyone at this point?
Yes, yes. This is all very fine. Until there is a massive security breach (like this recent one) and the CEO is looking for a place to drop the blame-hammer. Password aging may have had nothing to do with the breach, but who cares? The IS dept didn't have one? It's their fault then....
Anyone I've had in my car for the past several years, especially anyone who has an interest in being 'entertained' in a car, already had their own mobile internet and/or networkable device. Why would anyone want to splice an already-slow 3G connection between several people and/or devices?
I've had kids (several actually) longer that many here have been of legal drinking age. And if I do say so myself, I am pretty damn good at it. It's the "parents" who 'put up with bullshit day after day' that are the true non-parents, insomuch as they are more like pro bono babysitters waiting for some else to sack up and offer the children consistent, reasonable, and appropriate discipline and structure.
Here's a tip: If you think parenting is a thankless and joyless chore, you're not doing it right.
The universe? Really? Maybe the known universe. Or, maybe if we redefine 'universe' to mean Earth. But, I bet there's some sentient algae out there with a better clock.
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Wha? Despite what the tax laws indicate, corporations are not people. Unlike people, all corporations get to name themselves at 'birth'. So, a corporations name is indicative of how they want to be perceived. When they change their name it indicates (usually) a major change in how the corporation works or, at least, how it want people to think it works.
whorehouse...his first lay...giving head to the bouncer
Wow, you sound like a very mature and seasoned parent. I bet you are a real hoot on career day.
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I mean, it's really official. As in the company Woz built was called 'Apple Computer, Inc.' and in 2007 the company by that name officially ceased to exist and became 'Apple, Inc.'. Woz had nothing to do with any company called 'Apple, Inc.'.
Once the Morse code requirement was dumped, the sex appeal of being a HAM operator greatly diminished IMO. Kind of like the new rules for Scrabble. Anymore it seems like 'introducing to a new generation' = 'dumbing it down'
if you want to make more money, you need to ALWAYS be thinking on what skills you could acquire to achieve that goal.
Well, that, and working for one of the few companies that can afford large pay increases. Ones level of skill really has very little to do with ones salary. I had a job working as a one-man IT dept making something like 30K/year. I wanted more money. My boss said 'you're not worth it', so I quit. Seven month later, after a string of weirdos and losers who would work for that salary, I was offered my job back for nearly double. Three years later I was at 66K/year. But I quit again for another job offering more. Now I am at about 80K/year. New skills needed to 'climb' in this way? Zero.
It was all timing, luck, and playing against the 'unkempt, slovenly IT' type in job interviews.
At least according to this report. Can't really say I disagree. Of the friends and family who do have jobs now, I think mine is the best. Maybe not in term of money, but certainly in a money-to-suckiness kind of way.
Political Dissident: Hey, I sent out my anti-government newsletter to 1000 people. But only a few got it. What gives? Government: I guess it was mis-tagged as junk mail. Our bad. Sorry it's already been deleted. No, we don't back up junk mail.
But all it takes are a couple knobs playing some FPS during company time, and getting caught by the CEO. Then, in typical EMT style, there's an overreaction and everyone gets hit with the personal use ban-hammer. Kind of like dress codes. They are usually pretty relaxed until that one weirdo in the office (and every office has one) wears Daisy Dukes to work and POW! It's business attire only for a couple of years....
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Yeah, you probably wouldn't (neither would I). But I bet someone in the data-chain would be. If not you, then the site host. If not them, then probably your ISP. If not them, then probably the other persons' ISP. The whole idea of 'information wants to be free' applies to more than government secrets.
That's laughably wrong. First of all, it's not "so much data". Even if it were trillions of IP a day that would easily fit of any run-of-the-mill SATA hard drive. We are talking 4 octets per visit here, not tomes of Emerson.
Secondly, there are no laws preventing a server or service owner from keeping records of other people using their equipment. Now, giving that info up to authorities without a warrant might be bad, but keeping the info sure is not.
Because if most people think something is true (or in this case, think something is going to happen a certain way), then it simply must be so.
If a website doesn't record IPs of posters, it probably doesn't exist. Now, a web server might not keep logs, but all website access IP's are logged somewhere. Either on the server, the router, or the ISP. Unless, of course, someone controls all the layers and specifically writes a utility to completely purge them. But I doubt it. At the very least, IP logs are used for basic diagnostics.
Indeed. It's even more irritating when you see it in action. I used to work a half-block away from the County seat building in a decent sized city on WA State. Every year we would see a lot of County employees milling around our building after they would normally have gone home. Once I asked one of them about it and he said they had to 'meet their annual overtime budget' or they would lose it the next year. So they just 'made' overtime once a year. Tax dollars at work.
No kidding. I seem to remember using some open-source utility that did exactly this like 5 years ago.
"The NSA says the tool, called the USBDetect 3.0 Computer Network Defense Tool"
So if this is 3.0 can I assume they have had the tool for some time. Why are bothering to tell anyone at this point?
Yes, yes. This is all very fine. Until there is a massive security breach (like this recent one) and the CEO is looking for a place to drop the blame-hammer. Password aging may have had nothing to do with the breach, but who cares? The IS dept didn't have one? It's their fault then....
Who was running this experiment, Dr. Mengele?
Anyone I've had in my car for the past several years, especially anyone who has an interest in being 'entertained' in a car, already had their own mobile internet and/or networkable device. Why would anyone want to splice an already-slow 3G connection between several people and/or devices?
I've had kids (several actually) longer that many here have been of legal drinking age. And if I do say so myself, I am pretty damn good at it. It's the "parents" who 'put up with bullshit day after day' that are the true non-parents, insomuch as they are more like pro bono babysitters waiting for some else to sack up and offer the children consistent, reasonable, and appropriate discipline and structure.
Here's a tip: If you think parenting is a thankless and joyless chore, you're not doing it right.
whoosh!
The universe? Really? Maybe the known universe. Or, maybe if we redefine 'universe' to mean Earth. But, I bet there's some sentient algae out there with a better clock.
Wha? Despite what the tax laws indicate, corporations are not people. Unlike people, all corporations get to name themselves at 'birth'. So, a corporations name is indicative of how they want to be perceived. When they change their name it indicates (usually) a major change in how the corporation works or, at least, how it want people to think it works.
Wow, you sound like a very mature and seasoned parent. I bet you are a real hoot on career day.
I mean, it's really official. As in the company Woz built was called 'Apple Computer, Inc.' and in 2007 the company by that name officially ceased to exist and became 'Apple, Inc.'. Woz had nothing to do with any company called 'Apple, Inc.'.
Once the Morse code requirement was dumped, the sex appeal of being a HAM operator greatly diminished IMO. Kind of like the new rules for Scrabble. Anymore it seems like 'introducing to a new generation' = 'dumbing it down'
I wonder how long before lolspeak will be accepted. I know my daughter would love to put 'kthxbai' as a real word.
Well, that, and working for one of the few companies that can afford large pay increases. Ones level of skill really has very little to do with ones salary. I had a job working as a one-man IT dept making something like 30K/year. I wanted more money. My boss said 'you're not worth it', so I quit. Seven month later, after a string of weirdos and losers who would work for that salary, I was offered my job back for nearly double. Three years later I was at 66K/year. But I quit again for another job offering more. Now I am at about 80K/year. New skills needed to 'climb' in this way? Zero.
It was all timing, luck, and playing against the 'unkempt, slovenly IT' type in job interviews.
At least according to this report. Can't really say I disagree. Of the friends and family who do have jobs now, I think mine is the best. Maybe not in term of money, but certainly in a money-to-suckiness kind of way.
Political Dissident: Hey, I sent out my anti-government newsletter to 1000 people. But only a few got it. What gives?
Government: I guess it was mis-tagged as junk mail. Our bad. Sorry it's already been deleted. No, we don't back up junk mail.
3. Letters from Grandparents
4. Checks
5. Legally binding documents (i.e titles, deeds, contracts)
But all it takes are a couple knobs playing some FPS during company time, and getting caught by the CEO. Then, in typical EMT style, there's an overreaction and everyone gets hit with the personal use ban-hammer. Kind of like dress codes. They are usually pretty relaxed until that one weirdo in the office (and every office has one) wears Daisy Dukes to work and POW! It's business attire only for a couple of years....
Perhaps....but perhaps not. The Tremulous site has the same story. Maybe they are in on the joke together?
Of that I have not doubt. And their performance will be based on one motto: "No Indigents Need Apply"