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Ham Radio Still Growing In the iStuff Age

vhfer writes "From NPR comes this story about old-school communications in the age of Twitter: 'Only a few years ago, blogs listed ham radio alongside 35 mm film and VHS tape as technologies slated to disappear. They were wrong. Nearly 700,000 Americans have ham radio licenses — up 60 percent from 1981, a generation ago. And the number is growing.' The article goes on to say that while there's plenty of 60-plus year old hams, there's also a growing contingent of teens. I just met a 14-year-old, licensed in 2009. Getting rid of the Morse Code requirement sure helped in that regard. So does the fact that the test questions (and the answers) are freely available, legally, on the Internet. Study, take the test, hang the license certificate on the wall. Your geek cred gets an immediate boost. And who knows? Maybe the next time there's a Haiti-earthquake-sized disaster, you'll be one of the thousands of ham volunteers who provided the only communications in/out of Haiti for weeks following the quake, not to mention all of the tactical comms the country had for nearly a month."

368 comments

  1. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..de KB0HAW

    1. Re:FP by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      KB0HAW de KJ6BSO k

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    2. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Thank you for that input, Mr. Jones.

      Incidentally, Anonymous Coward and a ham call sign do not mix well.

    3. Re:FP by jmanforever · · Score: 1

      Yep, I should have logged in. Not very anonymous. Oh well.

      73 - Bart

    4. Re:FP by jmanforever · · Score: 1

      KJ6BSO.. Hey Carl, You're 5-9 in Nebraska.

      KB0HAW

    5. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Up 5 Lid, Up 5!

    6. Re:FP by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      KJ6BSO.. Hey Carl, You're 5-9 in Nebraska.

      KB0HAW

      Okay, Bart thanks for the QSO--I'll send you a QSL card!

      73

      KB0HAW de KJ6BSO sk

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    7. Re:FP by blair1q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Isn't it ironic that Ham Radio is meant to be a communications system for amateurs?

    8. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great Article on NPR.
      But no way will I ID with my call on slashdot!
      I'll use that someplace respectable

    9. Re:FP by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 4, Informative

      Isn't it ironic that Ham Radio is meant to be a communications system for amateurs?

      Not really, no. Your Ham Radio license is granted with the understanding that you will not conduct business on it. You cannot, for example, get on 2 meters and say "anybody wanna buy my telescope? $50!"

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    10. Re:FP by lothrids · · Score: 1

      73's... KI4RGN

    11. Re:FP by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      de KD1S

    12. Re:FP by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Facebook replaced it for that.

      --
      An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
    13. Re:FP by PhilipPeake · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually ... you can, and many do. There are frequent swap/sell nets, where people do offer their telescopes (etc) for sale.

      What you can't do is to use it to conduct a business, say telling your workers out in the field what to do, or running a business selling telescopes.

      K7UF

    14. Re:FP by pearl298 · · Score: 2, Funny

      "Isn't it ironic that Ham Radio is meant to be a communications system for amateurs?"

      Read that as FOSS for radio communication!

      de AA4MW/VK0DKW

    15. Re:FP by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Did the rules change since the late 80's?

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      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    16. Re:FP by kd5zex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, me either...

    17. Re:FP by kd5zex · · Score: 1

      There you are, I wanted that slashdot nick.

    18. Re:FP by bobwilkins · · Score: 1

      Oh, Well ... de k1ooo -two dits and a lotta dahs

      --
      Bob is at home in the Northeast Kingdom.
    19. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's no geek cred if there's no Morse.

    20. Re:FP by PhilipPeake · · Score: 2, Informative

      Several times. The FCC cleared up what it meant by business use -- its means what it says, plain and simple.

      That makes it ok for things like ordering pizza over a phone patch, or offering odd items for sale or swap on a net.

    21. Re:FP by kilodelta · · Score: 1

      Oh well. I've had it for ten years now.

    22. Re:FP by p51d007 · · Score: 1

      I hated to see them drop Morse code, but for the hobby to survive, they pretty much had to get rid of it. Had mine for a little over 20 years now. 73's... KB0GNK

    23. Re:FP by crossconnects · · Score: 1

      KB0HAW de KB3MKD /0
      I am in Iowa right now and we had tornado warnings. I get better, more up to date information from the local repeater from ham radio than from the TV

      --
      no big sig
    24. Re:FP by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

      Okie doke.

      My bad, I shoulda stipulated that I haven't been licensed for like 20 years.

      --

      "I like to lick butts!" by MobileTatsu-NJG (#32700246) (Score:5, Informative)

    25. Re:FP by Mister+Mudge · · Score: 1

      N2VD is QRV

      (ex KD2HN, ex WA2BSZ, ex WN2KBR)

      --
      Mudge

      In theory, theory and practice are the same.
      In practice, they're not.

    26. Re:FP by adairw · · Score: 1

      Agree about the code, but the rest of the world is dumbing down and America thinks we should follow.

    27. Re:FP by k2dbk · · Score: 1

      Isn't it ironic that Ham Radio is meant to be a communications system for amateurs?

      Amateur has a number of meanings. The relevant one is:
      a person who engages in a study, sport, or other activity for pleasure rather than for financial benefit or professional reasons. Compare professional.

      In other words, with some extremely limited and very specific exceptions, hams cannot be compensated for their work.

    28. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The real purpose of Ham Radio is to keep boring people away from our life. Given the posts before yours, it seems to work really well.

    29. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First po... Hey, I'm using moonbounce you insensitive clod!

    30. Re:FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, you CAN get on 2 meters and say "anybody wanna buy my telescope? $50!". I have sold many items by joining in on on air "swap nets" as well as casual conversations. Your correct that you can NOT use HAM radio to conduct business, however this is not the kind of business they are referring too.

    31. Re:FP by jsfetzik · · Score: 1

      N9KUB here, but I haven't used it much since the early 90's.

  2. Unique ID by CompressedAir · · Score: 2, Funny

    ... and if nothing else, you'll get a great unique ID to use online!

    Man, I wish I had a link to that Dilbert where he is worried about going into management ruining his geek cred with his girlfriend.

    "What if I got a Ham Radio license to compensate?"

    1. Re:Unique ID by vhfer · · Score: 1

      Sure it's unique. But the FCC database is public information, and I don't always want my street address associated with an email ID or etc. Not where it can be so freely mined. And some ISP's still insist we add characters to our federally issued, guaranteed unique callsigns. I don't use ISP and mail providers like that (stupid) anymore.

    2. Re:Unique ID by pushing-robot · · Score: 1

      Well, you could try the first image result for "Dilbert ham radio"...

      And while we're on a roll...

      --
      How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
    3. Re:Unique ID by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can I have your tin foil account?

    4. Re:Unique ID by CompressedAir · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it helps to let it expire and then move.

      Heh.

    5. Re:Unique ID by maxume · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can even link the source:

      http://dilbert.com/fast/1995-01-19/

      --
      Nerd rage is the funniest rage.
    6. Re:Unique ID by hardaker · · Score: 1

      PO Boxes take care of that for you.

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      The next site to slashdot will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and start slashdotting it early!
    7. Re:Unique ID by blair1q · · Score: 1

      Eh. A random ID any 12-year-old with a cheat sheet can get.

      I'd rather have a vanity tail number.

    8. Re:Unique ID by BSAtHome · · Score: 1

      My callsign is B O F H.

      B O F H calling L U S E R wishing acquaintance with L A R T; over.

      Hello?

    9. Re:Unique ID by goosman · · Score: 1

      Use a PO Box like I do. It doesn't guarantee total anonymity, but it does offer some privacy. DE K8MZO 73

    10. Re:Unique ID by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      Your license is supposed to be your station's physical address, not your mailing address.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    11. Re:Unique ID by msauve · · Score: 1
      That must be a lot of paperwork for mobiles.

      BTW, you're wrong.

      Each licensee shall furnish the Commission with an address to be used by the Commission in serving documents or directing correspondence to that licensee.

      - 47CFR1.5(a)

      --
      "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
    12. Re:Unique ID by hardaker · · Score: 1

      Your license is supposed to be your station's physical address, not your mailing address.

      Nope. Your address is supposed to be registered so the FCC can contact you.

      97.23 Each license grant must show the grantee's correct name and mailing address. The mailing address must be in an area where the amateur service is regulated by the FCC and where the grantee can receive mail delivery by the United States Postal Service. Revocation of the station license or suspension of the operator license may result when correspondence from the FCC is returned as undeliverable because the grantee failed to provide the correct mailing address.

      And in fact if you look through the entire part 97, the almost exclusive use of the word "address" follows the word "mailing".

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      The next site to slashdot will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and start slashdotting it early!
    13. Re:Unique ID by isdnip · · Score: 1

      You're really out of date.

      It used to be true that the station license specified a location, and if you operated anywhere else, you were "/3" in code or "portable 3" or whatever district you were in. To get around it, you could pull "secondary" licenses, with separate call signs, at each address. I had a couple of those. But that went away by the early 1980s, or late 1970s. (I've been licensed a lot longer than that.) Now you get one call sign and can use it anywhere in the country, and take it with you when you move across district boundaries. So call districts really only apply to how they assign you a new call sign, based on mailing address.

  3. As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What is the draw and use of this stuff? Not in a snarky sense, just that I'm half-way curious and ready to be pulled in.

    1. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by lemur3 · · Score: 2, Informative

      It is like the old version of IRC.... you can talk to strangers from all over.

    2. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Locke2005 · · Score: 4, Funny

      And, unlike chatroulette, very few of them are masturbating.

      --
      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    3. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Strange+Ranger · · Score: 1

      One decent use is internet over ham Radio. Most especially if you're at sea.

      --

      Operator, give me the number for 911!
    4. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, in addition to the simple chatting thing and the gee-whiz hobbyist angle, it can be an extremely valuable resource in emergency response scenarios. Many areas have volunteer emergency networks comprised of ham radio operators that could relay information and coordinate response efforts if the official response groups are overwhelmed or disorganized.

    5. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by acrobg · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There's the well-known disaster communications argument. That is, when the phone lines and cell towers go out, you will still have a means of communication. Also, various ham emergency groups are used to pass information about disasters, assist hospitals, provide communication, etc. Ham radio is a way to talk with people around the world from all walks of life without the need for any infrastructure. For me, I often talk on ham radio while in the car driving to/from work on one of the local repeaters (the "magic mountain repeater" for those of you in the LA area). To me, it's a bit more engaging than listening to whatever idle morning show is on the radio. And people often give live traffic reports when commuting, etc. Honestly, it's a hobby that I find fun as something to do. If you're interested in radio in general, it's one of the few hobbies where experimenting in the RF spectrum is encouraged. HAMs found out that HF waves (shortwave) bounce off the atmosphere as opposed to being absorbed or allowed to pass through, for example. Also, you get to have a cool ID code to use online and offline (the state of CA charges a 1-time fee to make it a vanity plate, as opposed to the annual upkeep of most other vanity plates). --KI6WPV

    6. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by zentec · · Score: 5, Informative

      The draw depends upon the person. Many hams are drawn to the hobby by building their own equipment and/or antennas. There's a lot of math and theory that goes into building transmitters and creating good antenna designs. Not to mention, the pride of breaking through a pile of amateurs wanting to talk to someone in a foreign country and mentioning that you are using only 100 watts into your antenna that is a "homebrew 7 element beam at 50 feet".

      Some modes in amateur radio require above average skills that the test doesn't cover; things like moonbounce, long distance microwave or satellites (hams have their own low-earth orbit satellites).

      There's also the computer aspect of it. Hams have developed their own digital modes that use very low power and require DSP techniques to use, as well as software defined radios.

      The hobby has a lot of interesting facets other than just talking to your friends on the radio. These are what keeps it going in an age when it's easier to just fire up Yahoo IM or use a cell phone.

    7. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by bcrowell · · Score: 3, Interesting

      What is the draw and use of this stuff? Not in a snarky sense, just that I'm half-way curious and ready to be pulled in.

      Back when I got my ham license, in 1980, the internet didn't exist, and long-distance phone calls were extremely expensive. My parents were divorced, and ham radio was a great way to keep in touch with my father. It was also really exciting back then to be able to talk to people in places like Japan or Mexico; without the internet, there was basically no other way to do that except by getting a pen pal or something.

      Those motivations have evaporated in the last 30 years, and that's one of the reasons I'm no longer active as a ham.

      The main justification I hear quoted these days for the continuing existence of ham radio is emergency communications. That's a great justification for continuing to dedicate that spectrum to hams, rather than auctioning it off to corporations. However, I don't find it enough of a justification to continue operating as a ham myself.

      If you have strong electronics skills, then ham radio offers a unique opportunity to tinker and play around on the radio spectrum. You can build your own antenna, bounce radio signals off the moon. Back in the 80's, a lot of people were experimenting with sending digital signals over the airwaves -- something that you couldn't accomplish at that time using the internet, because the internet didn't exist. There are no other radio bands where it's legal to do this kind of thing. E.g., one of the reasons that the technical details on wifi equipment is generally unavailable to the public is that the manufacturers are afraid that if they make the specs public, people will figure out ways to use the equipment to do illegal things.

    8. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by kherge · · Score: 1

      World domination.

    9. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by eln · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...that you know of.

    10. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      There are a few uses, but one that has had me seriously looking to start operating a Ham radio is that you can often use the equipment to track the broadcasts of various satellites which orbit overhead. I know some members of cubesat projects use them for confirmation of spacecraft survival after launch. There are a dozen other uses, but I always found the idea of linking actual satellite data to be extraordinarily exciting.

    11. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      What is the draw and use of this stuff? Not in a snarky sense, just that I'm half-way curious and ready to be pulled in.

      How about sending a message from my shack here in southern California to a guy located in the Azores without wires or fiber optics connection using a radio connected to a 12V car battery and less power than it takes to light up a typical light bulb? If that ain't geeky-cool, I don't know what is.

      If you enjoy electronic gadgets and building things with your own two hands*, ham radio is a great hobby.

      KJ6BSO. Look for me on 20 meters PSK31.

      * No offense intended to amputees

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    12. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Dan+Ost · · Score: 1

      I'm about ready to take the test. My motivation is to have a way of communicating with family when cell phones and land lines are overwhelmed (or down completely). A ham radio with tall antenna is the only real way to communicate with someone 15 miles away when phone and cell phone is out. If repeaters are available, a hand held unit might work. Both require a HAM radio license.

      --

      *sigh* back to work...
    13. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by viridari · · Score: 4, Informative

      An amateur radio license is a license to make use of large swaths of radio spectrum set aside just for hams. There are many things that you can do within that spectrum, including experimentation of new ways of using spectrum that others haven't tried yet.

      Most obviously, you can talk to people using your voice and a microphone.

      Or you can talk to them with a number of digital modes, with morse code being one of the most widely known examples, but other computer-based digital modes also enjoying much popularity.

      You can study theory on RF propagation on different parts of the radio spectrum using beacons.

      You can transmit a TV signal from a model rocket.

      You can install an APRS beacon in your car and use it like a LoJack if your car is ever stolen.

      You can fly a radio controlled airplane really really far because your transmitter can legally greatly exceed the range of the stuff most non-licensed people get to play with.

      You can fly a weather balloon and transmit photographs and telemetry back to you.

      You can work on improving Search And Rescue communications capabilities.

      You can provide direct vital assistance in the aftermath of a natural disaster by coordinating radio communication between government agencies and NGO's in ways that none of them have the internal capabilities to handle.

      You can play some really cool uber geeky games like "fox hunting" where you put your radio direction finding skills to the test. If you like geocaching, you'll get a real kick out of this.

      You can send data over vast distances wirelessly using more powerful transmitters than the unlicensed public on spectrum that is reserved for your use as a licensed amateur radio operator.

      This can just keep going. You can push the envelope, developing new technologies, or you can master antiquated skills on vintage equipment. Or you can just jabberjaw on the drive to work with other hams. Whatever floats your boat.

    14. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by bsandersen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      One lament heard repeatedly is, "Why doesn't America BUILD anything anymore?" Americans used to be known for Yankee ingenuity, innovation, and know-how. There seems precious little of that anymore except, perhaps, in software and aircraft. We still write code and build airplanes. It is difficult to thing of much else. The love of building things is best acquired young, I believe. I have it. I learning how things work. I also like to build things. Ham radio is an outlet for me on all these fronts. In an era where so many electronic components are, by necessity, nearly microscopic or monolithic, fully-formed, and impenetrable, you can still build radios from discrete parts, understand each of their functions, and have the joy of using something you made. I cringed when I first heard that freshly graduated EEs may have never picked up a soldering iron! How can one gain that intuition about the physical world without experiencing it?! Ham radio in the 21st century isn't a replacement for the internet, cell phones, video games, or anything else. It is a really fun way to learn about electronics, wave propagation, digital signal processing, and a bunch of other stuff in a hands-on, practical, inexpensive way. Perhaps if fewer were embarrassed about their desire to learn and do things (you won't be one of the COOL kids if you do!) we would have more engineers, more things designed and maybe even built here, and a brighter future.

    15. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      In addition to comments made by some other posters, Ham radio is not just a high powered walkie-talkie. There's actually a lot of brand new tech involved as well. I'm part of the Ham club at Penn State University - got licensed last year as part of a freshman seminar class. And we're currently in the process of installing a D-STAR repeater. What this will do is:

      1) Allow us to talk to people on other D-STAR repeaters through the internet - i.e., we have small handheld radios, but can send a message to our campus repeater, which will relay it to a repeater in Texas...or Germany...or Japan...or anywhere that one exists.
      2) Provide internet access anywhere on campus through the radios. Not great internet access - probably about dial-up speed - but still, internet access
      3) Allow transmitting video through the radios
      4) And really anything that you can imagine could be done with such a system...the amount of software is increasing every day

      So, there's lots of new tech, digital tech like PSK, D-STAR, Echolink, etc. But most of the hardware is still packaged with schematics. There's a lot of DIY involved if you like that (building antennas, building radios even) - or you can just buy everything. And you can communicate around the world for free, you can communicate in disaster situations, you can assist (or at least train for) many smaller emergency type situations (foxhunts and such), you can talk to the space shuttle or do a moon bounce....there's a _lot_ you can do with Ham radio.

    16. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      Doesn't it become Spam Radio the moment you start routing Internet packets over it?

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    17. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by vlm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Its like a really cool science experiment, maybe the worlds coolest EE lab ever, and co-incidentally you end up talking to people with the same interest. Imagine if magically doing geology rock collecting meant you'd inherently meet other people into geology (rather than just by accident or whatever). The average IQ of ham radio must be like 130, you don't meet boring people (mostly).

      Also has a pretty libertarian bent. Here are some slivers of bandwidth of various levels of usefulness. Do whatever the heck you want, with very few limitations. Most of the limitations amount to not replicating the job of another radio service, like, say, public broadcasting. Some obvious safety type limitations. Some obvious "play nice with others" requirements. Other than that, have fun.

      And then there are competitive contesters. Just how far can you talk to folks? And how many? Why? Same reason as climbing Mt Everest, just because you can.

      Building stuff is quite a kick. I don't mean bolting together premade assemblies like "building" a computer, but I mean designing and soldering stuff together and then talking to people using it. Don't have to, but its fun.

      There's the restoration crowd, that takes old/obsolete equipment, tune it up, use it. Like the car restoration folks. Interesting way to learn about history. And learning about history means you learn about the present.

      The emergency service guys are a little odd. 50 years ago the hams had better equipment than the cops. Now a days, other way around. No point anymore. Lots of pompous, lots of small group politics. But its a pretty libertarian hobby, folks just stay out of each others way, mostly anyway.

      Finally there's doing crazy stuff. I don't care if its obsolete, if you think AM NTSC TV transmitters are cool, you can use them if you want. Want to do something technologically odd for the sake of doing it? Fine.

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    18. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>What is the draw and use of this stuff?

      The challenge of communicating through noise and static, especially if you are a DXer (try to get signals from 1000+ miles away). HAM radio can also be used for some limited data communication, so in theory you could attach your PC to your transmitter, and put a receiver in your car, and communicate with your home (like for example, listening to dialup quality radio, or accessing text services like usenet). I don't know how popular packet-switching is today, but it used to be common in the era of the BBS (1980s).

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    19. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by camperdave · · Score: 1

      Well, at a guess: Communications with people from all over the world. Independence from the telcos (no charge for air time). Pretty high access bar -> far fewer jerks to deal with. And Ham ->Packet radio -> planetwide "wifi".

      --
      When our name is on the back of your car, we're behind you all the way!
    20. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's really simple, you get to go and totally be a geek with other geeks. Speak the lingo and play with the toys... and even build your own.

      Aside from that there is the public service aspect where, quite literally, HAM Radio is the communications backbone of last resort world wide. For a few hundred bucks, you can have a rig that will put in instant contact with any point on the earth, and when the regular lines of communications go away--it's still there.

      You can even send e-mail via the internet and not even have an internet connection!

      N7GH
      ARES: a commitment for you and your neighbor.

    21. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by vlm · · Score: 1

      40 years ago there was a somewhat well known magazine series involving building radio gear into food cans. Much like the altoids tin craze about a decade ago.

      Most famously a crystal controlled transmitter built into a tuna can. Looks a heck of a lot like this:

      http://www.amqrp.org/kits/tt2/index.html

      There was a VFO for that transmitter (or perhaps another) with a nice VFO in, you guessed it, a spam can, with a slider arm out the top to control frequency. Or some other "vaguely rectangular meat product in a can".

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    22. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>There's the well-known disaster communications argument.

      I'd rather invest $5 a month in POTS. The telephone never seems to die, perhaps because it's so simple (a twisted pair wire). I honestly can't remember ever losing telephone service.

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    23. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      That's a controversial topic these days. Following the rules, you're not allowed to encrypt any communications on the amateur bands. No SSL, no VPN. If you route third party traffic over your link, the station operator is responsible for everything that gets sent. And the subject of unattended automatic stations is a whole 'nother can of worms.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    24. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      Anyone can listen. You only need a license if you want to transmit.

      Of course, by the time you've got the downlink antenna, tracking system, receive downconverters and the rest of the kit, you'll probably just give up and get the license. Any "I'm not a nerd" cred you were trying to maintain is out the window once you're aiming antennae at birds that you tracked with that orbit calculator program...

    25. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by roman_mir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I am not sure that anything, short of your penis falling off, is a reason not to masturbate.

    26. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by omnichad · · Score: 1

      You're not thinking of a big enough disaster.

    27. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by hduff · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I always liked modifying radios to do things they were never intended to do, like put a CB radio on 10M FM. Or use a 1500' end-fed longwire antenna on 40M to check into ECARS using 10W PEP and having net control accuse me of using illegal power. And helping a friend set up and use a 5kW surplus government transmitter on MARS. Or help another friend assemble a complete set (DC to daylight) of NSA/CIA/FBI multi-mode receivers that weren't supposed to exist (the FBI bought them back from us). Almost got to use an AM broadcast antenna during its off-air time for 160M. Convert old Motorola State Police radios to 6M FM. Send slow-scan TV and RTTY all over the world. Talk to interesting people. Just fun stuff.
      73,
      KB4OQ

      --
      "I believe in Karma. That means I can do bad things to people all day long and I assume they deserve it." : Dogbert
    28. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by cyberzephyr · · Score: 1

      It also saves a lot of lives in emergencies.

      Katrina and Haiti were bad examples of HAM not being welcome

      but lots of countries (us included) have

      benefitted from HAM.

      I have a license as well. :-)

      --
      I'm here for the experience, not the Hyperbole.
    29. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      What is the draw and use of this stuff? Not in a snarky sense, just that I'm half-way curious and ready to be pulled in.

      Unfortunately, one of the more recent draws to amateur radio comes from hospitals and government organizations, where the administrators are learning that they can equip their people with ham radios for use during emergencies for A LOT LESS MONEY than it takes to build a commercial system with enough capability to handle large emergencies.

      The FCC recently modified the rules so that government agencies can request a waiver of the rules regarding use of amateur radio on behalf of employers during drills and exercises, so that those agencies could train their employees how to use amateur radio in a real emergency that way. They still need individual licenses, but now they can be 'on the clock' while using their ham radio for their employer.

      The FCC is now seeking to modify the rules so that they don't even have to ask for a waiver -- employees will be able to use amateur radio for "emergency drills" and be paid to do it.

      Prior to this, amateur radio was strictly that. There were two significant loopholes in the rules. One was for school teachers so they could use amateur radio in their classrooms. The other was for "operators of stations transmitting code practice or other bulletins on a regular basis at least X hours per week...", which was an exception written specifically for the ARRL so they could hire someone to send their code practice tapes.

      A multi-county radio system that will survive a major disaster like an earthquake (or be repaired quickly and easily following one) could cost millions, if commercial radio equipment and sufficient resources are used. If you go the amateur radio route, you can get the same package for significantly less. A hundred dollars a hand-held radio, $300 per base, and repeaters for free (because you'll use the ones that hams already have put up.)

      The State of Oregon just paid $250,000 for a state-wide communications system using ham radio, linking almost every county's EOC back to Salem. The FCC rule changes means that the counties can staff those stations with county employees, even during exercises.

      The Samaritan Hospital group is in the middle of an exercise testing their ability to link their multi-county group of hospitals to the county health departments and emergency operations centers.

      Someone else posted that ham radio had access to a large amount of bandwidth that is used solely by hams. Even ignoring the fact that most of the amateur radio bands are dual or more assigned, and many where hams have secondary status, this involvement of local and state governments in ham radio means we are in danger of losing that spectrum altogether, once paid employees of those organizations start using them for routine ops.

    30. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Script+Cat · · Score: 1

      The originator station is responsible.

    31. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by oracleofbargth · · Score: 1

      Zombie plan, man. Zombie plan.

    32. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Carpal tunnel syndrome?

      --
      I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
    33. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you cannot access the internet over ham radio, not legally. The internet is a commercial infrastructure, and commercial use of Amateur Radio frequencies is illegal.

    34. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      2.4ghz is an amateur band. Lots of people turn off encryption and run high-power 802.11 links.

      I'm pretty sure that D-STAR allows you to plug ethernet into your 23cm radio, and it just works. (Icom ID-1)

      APRS is a pretty cool re-use of old-school 1200bps packet.

      Ham stuff evolved a bit, too - just like the rest of the electronics world.

    35. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      I am not sure that anything, short of your penis falling off, is a reason not to masturbate.

      - also I wonder if there is any reason in the world not to use this as a sig?

    36. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      True. I've been told that in 1972 Hurricane Agnes knocked-out the phone for a whole day. So from then to now is what? 1 outage in 15,000 days? Oh horror. Of course TV and radio still worked flawlessly, so even without phone service people were not completely cut off from the world. :-)

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    37. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by roman_mir · · Score: 1

      prosthetic hand?

    38. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by dtmos · · Score: 1

      You need to live longer, or perhaps just somewhere else. Hurricane Wilma took out the phone system, cellular and all, in nearly all of South Florida -- 3 million people -- for days on end. The wonderful thing about amateur radio is that I could contact my family (living outside the disaster area) and report that we had survived without serious injury, almost immediately after the storm. It just took my radio, a little generator I (and most Floridians) keep for just such emergencies, and a long wire I threw over some trees.

    39. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by brainboyz · · Score: 1

      As hinted to by omnichad, tell me how that works when a natural disaster levels your provider's datacenter, or drops your POTS lines.

    40. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      As the article says - creating your own experience is really a key. I've done it since I was 15, and in the more active clubs - you have members who are always thinking of new things to build. One year we built a huge balloon (the kind used to float radiosonde devices) with a camera, 2 beacons (so we could locate the balloon), and a repeater - talked all over Oregon state with it all afternoon long.

      There really is no limit to what you can do based on your interests in amateur radio.Want to play with satellites? Work skip all day long? Play with computers over the air (with a variety of digital protocols - including 802.11, wimax, and dstar), play with your own tv station, learn morse code, play with faxes (including weather fax from space).

      There are even huge world wide games you can play called contests - with somewhat tangible prizes (usually a mention in QST - the trade magazine in the US, or a certificate) - py2el on youtube is one of the more hardcore of these contesters definitely worth checking out his channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/py2el

    41. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      Also, you get to have a cool ID code to use online and offline ...

      Other than the vanity plate thing, where the states have limited ham plates to hams, I can use any "cool ID code" I want online, even "KI6WPV". About the only one I can't get online is KI6WPV@arrl.net, but I can be KI6WPV@comcast.net, @yahoo, @gmail (unless you've already used those, and I doubt you've picked them all up.) Hmm, maybe I should go sign up for that handle here on /.?

      What's odd is that hams sometimes register their .com domain using their callsign. It's an odd conflation of purely non-commercial activity using a purely commercial domain name. But there's nothing stopping me from getting KI6WPV.com, unless it's already taken -- and it doesn't appear to be.

      In other words, I don't need to spend the money or take the time passing a test in order to have a "cool ID code" online.

    42. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      That youtube video will take forever, and don't get me started on bittorrent.

      --
      An SQL query goes to a bar, walks up to a table and asks, "Mind if I join you?"
    43. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      High Power Model Rockets take advantage of having a HAM license in order to transmit data from very high altitudes for GPS or other electronics use.

    44. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 1

      I work with very large scientific balloons. On the occasions, that I help school kids perform science using small weather balloon, I use my ham radio...

      You never know where amateur radio will take you....

      --
      These comments are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of my employer or colleagues...
    45. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by GlassHeart · · Score: 1

      Has this ever happened in appropriate scale? For it to work, they would need their own independent source of power, and more importantly the emergency personnel need to know they exist. Battery-powered satellite phones seem to have several significant advantages over your idea.

    46. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by vk2sky · · Score: 1

      The telephone never seems to die, perhaps because it's so simple (a twisted pair wire). I honestly can't remember ever losing telephone service.

      You're obviously not from Nebraska

    47. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      Just unable to give the most important part of communication (feedback).

      --
      Michael J. Ryan - tracker1.info
    48. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by spinkham · · Score: 1

      Yes, for pretty much every disaster or even most large parades or races.
      Google "ARES RACES" for plenty more information.

      --
      Blessed are the pessimists, for they have made backups.
    49. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless you hear them coming....

    50. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by speedlaw · · Score: 1

      If you have a satellite to hit, and if that satellite has an active downlink station, and if that downlink station has access to the phone system, and if that phone system is still connected to the person you are trying to reach. I think we will all be very surprised the day someone, somewhere, knocks out a comm or TV satellite.....

    51. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by morgauxo · · Score: 1

      For me it's a DIY thing. It feels good to use something you built yourself. For some people it's about emergency preparedness or community service. It's also a nice way to chat, if your friends are into it, or if you make friends that are then talking on the local repeater can be a great way to kill time during a commute. Sure, you can call a friend with a cellphone, maybe you can use twice the minutes and 2-way calling to talk to two but how about 5 or 10 at a time? There's also competitions some people enjoy and all sorts of other stuff. Not necessarily every aspect of it is for everyone but there is an aspect for just about anyone.

    52. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many EMO organizations actively encourage members to become hams. Here is one http://www.emergencyradio.ca/training.html

    53. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people like the idea of seeing how little power you can use to make a contact. This is abbreviated as QRP, or less than 5 watts output. I have a 40 meter transceiver inside an Altoids tin, that with a good antenna can reach amazing distances, and I don't have to sign up for an International Calling Plan. This particular radio works on CW, or Morse Code only, which can be pretty universal for people who don't speak the same language.

    54. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Amateur Radio satellites act as simple repeaters. Signal up to bird - signal amplified - then signal transmitted down. No ground station needed for the link. They are in low earth orbit and and don't have relay capability between satellites so it's not as refined as a system as GlobalStar or Iridium.

      But they're free, some of them are built entirely by amateurs and they work with pretty minimal rig.

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    55. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by crossconnects · · Score: 1

      One comment about the police equipment. It depends on infrastructure, and radio towers working. When they go down, police and other emergency responders still have to turn to hams. See the White house report on Katrina, appendix B, What Went Right. Ham radio is prominent.

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      no big sig
    56. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Bent+Mind · · Score: 1

      You can play some really cool uber geeky games like "fox hunting" where you put your radio direction finding skills to the test.

      Reminds me of "Cat and Mouse". Played it as a teen with CB. The idea was to find a spot to hide and then transmit what you could see around you. Then everyone else had to find you. Great fun!

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    57. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by dangitman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      You say this:

      The average IQ of ham radio must be like 130

      But then you completely contradict yourself with this:

      Also has a pretty libertarian bent.

      So, who actually dominates, intelligent people, or libertarians?

      --
      ... and then they built the supercollider.
    58. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by EQ · · Score: 1

      You say this:

      The average IQ of ham radio must be like 130

      But then you completely contradict yourself with this:

      Also has a pretty libertarian bent.

      So, who actually dominates, intelligent people, or libertarians?

      Sorry, that's a logical fallacy: False dichotomy - very poor argumentation technique on your part. To put it in words simple enough for you to understand: The categories are demonstrably not mutually exclusive. In my experience, the overlap is quite large between higher IQ and Libertarianism. If you want the lower IQ types in the political realm, go to extreme liberals or extreme conservatives, who are surprisingly similar in terms of their unintelligent negative effects on liberty.

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    59. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Sorry, that's a logical fallacy: False dichotomy - very poor argumentation technique on your part. To put it in words simple enough for you to understand: The categories are demonstrably not mutually exclusive. In my experience, the overlap is quite large between higher IQ and Libertarianism.

      It's true that libertarians can be smart in specific fields, but their broader intelligence tends to be limited. Thus, you get a high concentration of people like engineers. They overestimate their own intelligence, because they are knowledgeable about their own field. But put them outside of that field, and they are generally clueless.

      This makes sense, because libertarianism stems from a deep naivety about how the world works and society operates. It's a simplistic belief system, and it just goes over their heads that society isn't like a bunch of gears or transistors.

      --
      ... and then they built the supercollider.
    60. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by cyclomedia · · Score: 1

      It's like the internet. It's slower but unfiltered.

      --
      If you don't risk failure you don't risk success.
    61. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Siridar · · Score: 1

      ...down the antenna?

    62. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 1

      It's true that libertarians can be smart in specific fields, but their broader intelligence tends to be limited. Thus, you get a high concentration of people like engineers. They overestimate their own intelligence, because they are knowledgeable about their own field. But put them outside of that field, and they are generally clueless.

      Judging, among others, from the folks right here on /., it's not so much a matter of intelligence as it is of empathy.

      Stupid people are easy to deal with and categorize. People that can look at a starving kid and shrug while saying "what do I care, not like it's anybody I know" are the ones that make us question their/our sanity.

      --

      People replying to my sig annoy me. That's why I change it all the time.
    63. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Enleth · · Score: 1

      NSA/CIA/FBI multi-mode receivers that weren't supposed to exist (the FBI bought them back from us)

      Where did you get those and how many vans full of men in black suits showed up before your door to present the buyout offer?

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      This is Slashdot. Common sense is futile. You will be modded down.
    64. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by InterStellaArtois · · Score: 1

      Feel free to contact me to discuss options. -- New owner of KI6WPV.com

    65. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by vlm · · Score: 1

      So, who actually dominates, intelligent people, or libertarians?

      The answer is pretty simple. The playing field / ground rules / FCC regulations are vaguely libertarian-ish as I discussed. However, the politics of the folks on that playing field vary all over the map.

      Very similar to how the "US Fascist System" sets the rules, such as govt reps owned by corporations, privatize the profits while socializing the losses, all policy decisions oriented toward the destruction of the middle class, etc. But inside the US system, individuals have a pretty broad spectrum of political views.

      I was not trying to imply that everyone in ham radio is a Rand-ite. The spectrum on the air vaguely matches the spectrum on the ground. American hams mostly have politics like most Americans. The Cuban hams mostly match up with Cuban politics. The Japanese, well, you get the idea.

      So, libertarian types will resonate (bad pun) with the existing FCC rules and be quite happy. The fascist, authoritarian types will generally try to change the rules to remove freedoms, add licensing requirements, generally "mess with people". Its an inherently more libertarian playing field, than a homeowners association, a school board, or a local police and fire commission.

      So that's what I'm getting at. If you desperately want to use government power to force your neighbors to decorate their homes to fit your personal tastes, or like to forcibly control what the local teachers are allowed to say about various topics, or basically just like to be a bully, you'll probably not like the politics of the laws and regulations for ham radio. Oh you can still have plenty of fun, and its very interesting, but you won't like the "climate".

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    66. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by vlm · · Score: 1

      See the White house report on Katrina, appendix B, What Went Right. Ham radio is prominent.

      And then there's Haiti where it was pretty much irrelevant, other than a van load of hams trying to help was attacked and someone was killed so they said F-it and went home.

      There's also two totally separate segments of ham radio emcomm. There's the very public "volunteer IT dept for govt departments" which is widely discussed and consists of memorandum of understandings, orange safety vests, ID cards, paramilitary organization, procedures, insiders vs outsiders political intrigue, endless certification, "who gets to be the boss" and holds no interest whatsoever for me. Despite the stated goals, most of the actual activity is oriented around providing free IT service to public events, races and carnivals and such, as opposed to actual emcomm events. Nothing wrong with volunteering, but its not real emcomm.

      Then there's "helping yourself and the public" which is an entirely separate way of doing things, which I am interested in, but is not widely discussed. We the unprepared, are called upon to do so much, with so little ...

      Based on a quarter century of observation, segment #1 takes most of the credit for the hard work of segment #2, yet segment #1 generally ostracizes/ignores/looks down on segment #2 whenever possible.

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    67. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by Cloud+K · · Score: 1

      I'm not a Ham (my parents are, it's always been somewhere on my "to-do" list) but from what I've watched of it, it's the fun of enabling communication yourself by understanding the very basics and experimenting, building your own rig etc. As opposed to just plugging in RJ45 or dialling a number and taking it for granted. That's what's luring me to it anyway, and the more I hear about it being alive and well in the modern world the further it shifts up the to-do list.

      Some ask why bother when you have the internet and cell phones. The answer perhaps lies in metaphores: why build up LFS (Linux From Scratch) when you can install Ubuntu? Why climb mountains when you can get up there by helicopter? I dare even say, why build a PC when you can buy a ready-built Mac? (I do both actually). Why paint a scene when you can take a photo? Why make music when you can download some off the internet and play that? Etc.

    68. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by EQ · · Score: 1

      Ah another logic error on your part: False analogy - due to a faulty premise. You mis-define libertarianism, then argue from your mis-definition - which is also a bit of a Straw Man error. Not to mention a false generalization of libertarian characteristics from loaded terms in your (overly general and false) characterization of engineers -- which is yet another logical fallacy on your part ("spotlight fallacy" or a simple composition fallacy). As a counter-example, there are a fairly large number of "non technical" people who are libertarians, including doctors (MD) and other highly educated people.

      FYI, so you get the definition correct: Libertarianism is a term adopted by a broad spectrum of political philosophies which advocate the maximization of individual liberty and the minimization or even abolition of the state.

      Libertarianism stems from a deep desire for personal liberty - not a deep naivety. Libertarianism is based on the premise that people are best left to decide and work things out themselves, individually. That's hardly "gears or transistors" you ascribe to libertarians (indirectly from engineers, and completely off from the subject of "high IQ").

      And that is where you get into your most fundamental error: you ascribe the opposite belief (arguably, that of collectivists: people are cogs in a machine that can eventually be perfected) to the Libertarians. With such a demonstrably false premise, you cannot claim a truth in your conclusion.

      So once again, you are wrong -- in multiple ways. And I note that you continue to argue in a fallacious fashion, not recognizing your errors but compounding bad argument on bad argument, error upon error, mixing in fallacy after fallacy and wrapping it up in judgmental language. It is quite the package, a shining monument to a struggling mind.

      You may want to take a basic course in rhetoric to hone your ability to put together a coherent argument. But don't let that stop you; with your sort it never does seem to do so anyway. It is slightly amusing so see you thrash so hard to hide whatever basic animus you have toward engineers and libertarians that is behind all this.

      I am a bit curious though: according to your reasoning, narrow fields of study and work narrow the intellect? In your system, it would seem that puts me and my Philosophy Degree, indicating far broader knowledge (knowledge about knowledge in fact, e.g. my study of epistemology) at "the top of the heap". I do find that pretty amusing. Tell me, what color is the sky in your world?

      I'm abandoning this thread- your sort usually will post again and again until you get the "last word". Its the old adage about arguing on the internet... Well here you go, it is all yours. Goodbye.

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    69. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by DaemonDazz · · Score: 1

      That is actually a fairly good list with a nice cross section of things you can do, but, as you said, the list keeps going and going and going...

      -VK5HZ

    70. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by knirps · · Score: 1

      The best characterization of ham radio I've heard as the total experience is "Ham radio is the only hobby in which you can be an inventor, a collector, an emergency worker, an athlete, an engineer, a radio show host, a scaler of heights, a teacher and mentor, an astronomer, and a geophysicist. All at the same time. It remains the most powerful and flexible means of communication available to the private citizen in the world." Not bad. I've enjoyed playing the game for over 30 years.

    71. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by tsm1mt · · Score: 1

      There's the technical aspect, the social aspect, and the sport aspect.

      Technical if you like to build stuff. Interested in wi-fi? Study up for your ham test and start reading up on what it takes to build a good antenna, and suddenly you have a MUCH better understanding of how to go about building a "cantenna", get better TV reception, or why an external cell phone antenna on the roof of your car works better than inside.

      Social - want to chat with someone, perhaps a random someone, down the street, across the state, across the country, or on another continent? You never know who you might run into. In this aspect, it's sort of like an Internet chat room. I stopped visiting IRC when the unwashed masses started invading in the 1990s, but with licensing and identification requirements (and $11,000/day fines for violation) ham operators tend to be more civilized. I've chatted with newly licensed teens on Thanksgiving break to a 9 year old Extra to NASA engineers to farmers to doctors to... you name it. South African, Australian, Russian, Bulgarian, Mexican, Cuban.. and so on.

      Sporting - as others have mentioned, they have "contests" where the goal is to contact as many people, or states, or countries, or continents as you can in a given time period - and this drives back to the Technical aspect, since to improve your station usually requires better equipment - and almost always that translates into better antennas.

      You can get involved pretty inexpensively if you find an ARRL affiliated club nearby. Many hams have previous generation equipment they don't want/need any more - many would loan it to a new ham (or outright donate), others would sell inexpensively, and then there's the regular hamfests (swapmeet), too.

      73 KE7VUX

    72. Re:As someone totally ignorant in this stuff by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Thanks for proving my point.

      Your awkward essay shows exactly what is wrong with libertarians. You can't even see your nose for your face, while making a hilarious number of critical grammar and spelling errors.

      --
      ... and then they built the supercollider.
  4. recent usage by COMON$ · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here in Nebraska just last week we had a need for Ham radios when our telephones went dead. No problem for cell phone users until they tried to dial 911. Out came the Ham radio operators using the contingency plans for y2K parked at major intersections where people could get a hold of them and contact authorities. There are just some technologies that are just too useful to get rid of.

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    1. Re:recent usage by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      I wasn't involved in it myself, but I believe the Cornell Amateur Radio Club (and/or one of the other local ham organizations) received a commendation from the local emergency services when a nasty ice storm in the mid-90s took out the cellular system's infrastructure for a few days. Local hams filled in the hole left when the cell network collapsed under all the ice.

      (This is hearsay by the way, and based on a story I heard years ago, so I could be wrong.)

      N2YPH

      Also, the summary makes a comment about removing the morse code requirement - for VHF and above, it's been gone since at least the early to mid 1990s. I've had a Technician class license since middle school. Morse for HF was removed MUCH more recently, but equipment-wise it's a lot easier to get started on VHF, especially nowadays, handheld radios have dropped a LOT in price. You can now get decent Chinese imports (such as Puxing PX-777) for less than $90.

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    2. Re:recent usage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In Atlanta I am part of an emergency radio group which works with the local hospitals, police and fire departments during times of need. Ham Radio operators during the storm in New Orleans and the earth quake in Haiti. If it was not for ham radio operators there would have been no communication.

  5. Ham Radio by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1, Redundant

    Ham radio ftw!

    I'm considering getting my ham operators license, though first I would like to purchase the equipment.

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    "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death." Proverbs 16:25 (NKJV)
    1. Re:Ham Radio by Coren22 · · Score: 1

      I believe by law that would be the other way around... buying the radio requires the license. Though I understand having the Ham license allows you to get a previously locked radio unlocked.

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      APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
    2. Re:Ham Radio by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      oh. I stand corrected. Onward toward licensing!

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      "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death." Proverbs 16:25 (NKJV)
    3. Re:Ham Radio by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      Nope. You don't need the license to purchase the equipment - you just need one to transmit on it. If you want to just buy one and listen you're free to do that.

    4. Re:Ham Radio by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      That would be wrong. You don't need a license to own a radio, only to transmit on amateur radio frequencies. If you want to listen, there's no problem with that whatsoever. The only thing you need a license for is to transmit.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    5. Re:Ham Radio by JungleBoy · · Score: 1

      You could just get a ham receiver/scanner without a license. Set a 'listening station' up for yourself. I was down at a mall Radio Shack the other day and tucked in the back were a couple hand held ham/marine/aviation FM VHF 2m scanners. They were fairly cheap. This would give you some idea of what Hams do.

      Though, I do believe it's legal to own a ham transmitter without a license, I think it's just illegal to transmit until your have a license.

      --
      "You never know when some crazed rodent with cold feet might be running loose in your pants."
      -Calvin
    6. Re:Ham Radio by MichaelJE2 · · Score: 1

      KD0KYW here, I'm 19 and my license came yesterday (yeay! I'm one of those teenagers with a license) You can get a radio and station without a license, however, keep your finger off that transmit button.

    7. Re:Ham Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, It is legal to purchase the equipment with no license... Just illegal to transmit..

    8. Re:Ham Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No. There is no requirement to have the license to buy the radio (at least in the U.S.). You can listen all you want. You just need to the license to transmit.

      Generally speaking, a ham license does not allow you to unlock a radio. However, a ham license does allow you to build your own homebrew transmitter and operate without FCC type acceptance within the ham bands.

  6. Don't forget about CB radios by Pojut · · Score: 1

    There is still a rather active market for CB radios as well. I went to eBay to put my Uniden PC78LTW up for sale, and I couldn't believe how many CB radios there were available on there. I know truckers still use them, but I was certainly not expecting the industry to still have THAT many buyers out there...not anymore, but when I first put that auction up, there were thirty two active auctions for that one model alone!

    1. Re:Don't forget about CB radios by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Many truck drivers also have Technician class licenses and use VHF-UHF Amateur radio.

    2. Re:Don't forget about CB radios by Pojut · · Score: 1

      UHF

      "Don't you know the Dewey decimal system?!?!" -Conan the Librarian

    3. Re:Don't forget about CB radios by Dan+Ost · · Score: 1

      CB radio is a cheap way to have "fleet" communications without requiring specific licenses. The power is limited since it's unlicensed, but it's far cheaper than most other options available to commercial operations (who can't, by definition, use HAM radio bands).

      I believe there are even repeaters available for CBs that can be secured by access code if you need more than the 3 mile range typically available to mobile CB units.

      --

      *sigh* back to work...
    4. Re:Don't forget about CB radios by speedlaw · · Score: 2, Informative

      there are no legal CB repeaters. Most folks who want more from CB get an amp and some go for frequencies outside the CB range. Here in NY, below channel 1 is illegal trucker chats, and spanish. Above 40, there are folks using Sideband transmission and shooting skip. It's all really toy compared to even basic ham equipment. Don't get me started on the crappy signals they send out, either.....

    5. Re:Don't forget about CB radios by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      Don't get me started on the crappy signals they send out, either.....

      Or all the QRM they cause on 10 meters. I'm both a ham and a truck driver and have been known to give my fellow drivers some serious shit if I find out they're "freebanding" or using linears on their CB transceivers.

      73 de KJ6BSO

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
  7. I just go into Ham by digital_bacon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I thought at 23 I'd be the youngest guy in my local radio club.. Turned out that the youngest was a 17 year old Girl.

    1. Re:I just go into Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      I thought at 23 I'd be the youngest guy in my local radio club.. Turned out that the youngest was a 17 year old Girl.

      We've got a 10 year old girl in our local club!

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    2. Re:I just go into Ham by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      So did she say yes when you asked her out?

    3. Re:I just go into Ham by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      pics?

    4. Re:I just go into Ham by Elros · · Score: 1

      I passed my test at age 11. That day I met a 9 year old who had the Amateur Extra license.

      KC0DAD

    5. Re:I just go into Ham by jjhall · · Score: 1

      There are lots of younger hams out there. I myself got my license back when I was 11 or 12 years old, and my 7 year old daughter just got her license shortly before Christmas last year. To my knowledge she is the youngest in our state, however I do know there are younger kids out there. I remember reading an article not too long ago about a 6 year old passing the test in Canada, which I've heard is much more difficult than the tests here in the US.

      As far as I am concerned, anything we can do to encourage the younger generation to explore any hobbies in the scientific world the better.

      73 de KB7QOA

      Jeremy

    6. Re:I just go into Ham by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Turned out that the youngest was a 17 year old Girl.

      Why is she capitalized?

      --
      ... and then they built the supercollider.
    7. Re:I just go into Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      As far as I am concerned, anything we can do to encourage the younger generation to explore any hobbies in the scientific world the better.

      I agree with you completely. Not only would it be a good thing for ham radio, which right now is largely comprised of old graybeards like me, it would be good for the country in general. We're falling behind much of the rest of the world in science education. If getting a young person interested in ham radio spurs a career in the sciences, that's a win-win situation.

      According to the ARRL, there was a significant increase in the number of new amateur radio licenses issued in 2009. That's very encouraging.

      73 de KJ6BSO

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    8. Re:I just go into Ham by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Score!!

  8. I heard an NPR interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    during the haiti earthquake via a satellite phone and the guy's voice sounded like one of the prawnies in District 9. My father-in-law's ham voice is at least recognizable, even with the static, because it's analog.

  9. CB Radio and HAM coming back. by lemur3 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Friends of mine in Finland and the region talk about a resurgence in CB usage as of late. Apparently it is becoming a big thing to have a ham license as well....

    If only the same interest came back to America! A little over 15 years ago my CB was constantly amusing, filled with plenty of discussions. Now I rarely get anything, even after hours of listening/scanning.

    1. Re:CB Radio and HAM coming back. by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      I've got friends who are migrating from CB to 2m because of the poor range that CB provides out in the sticks. The availability of higher power 2m transmitters is really convenient.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    2. Re:CB Radio and HAM coming back. by seekertom · · Score: 1

      hey lemur! i'm in USA and i've got a cb set too... wait a sec while i turn it on.... ok... now, look out the window... 'can ya hear me now????' thanks fer lis'nin' seekertom

  10. Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emcom by kj4gxu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not sure you're actually correct that thousands of hams provided the only communications out of Haiti after the earthquake and all fo the tactical coms. While there were a few messages coming out of Haiti over amateur radio there wasn't much. Cell phones were brought back up pretty quickly and a friend of mine who was in Haiti doing relief work after the quake (Specifically as a comms officer for a relief org) said that he had very little use for HF as satellite connections were brought up pretty quickly. He did say there was some use of VHF to establish local communications between relief orgs and various med stations etc but that other communications came up quickly enough that amateur radio didn't play as big of a role as many would like us to believe. If you want a great technical hobby where there's a lot to learn and an opportunity to make friends all over the world become a ham. You might get an opportunity to help out in a disaster, but if your main goal is to help out in emergencies, get trained in CPR, Search and Rescue and other such, but don't count on being a ham to put you in the "Most needed" category. There is a place for amateur radio in disaster relief, but it's as a backup, not a primary communications method. The fact is the pros can do a better job than we can.

  11. Prepared for the real disaster by rbrander · · Score: 1

    Never mind Haiti, kids these days are getting out to more movies that older people, and they know they have to be prepared for the coming Zombie Apocalypse.

    1. Re:Prepared for the real disaster by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 1

      Crikey, everyone knows that Haiti is the source of Zombie evolution. THe earthquake is the start of the Voodoo Zombie Apocalypse!

  12. For one thing... by Bananatree3 · · Score: 5, Informative
    With Ham Radio, it is possible to:

    Talk with people around the world by bouncing signals off the moon

    On "HF" or shortwave radio, you can talk to people around the world with 100watts of RF power. 100w is probably 1/3 or less of the power used to run your desktop computer.

    It's probably one of the geekiest of the geek hobbies. You can play with electronics and build and repair radios. You can interface radios with computers and send and receive messages over radio. You can play with RF and antenna theory, flexing those math muscles to enhance your signal.

    You get to talk without infrastructure

    Cool people from around the world to talk with, and you never know who you're going to talk to next. Kind of like fishing

    1. Re:For one thing... by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I, and the grandparent for sure, would probably jump on something like this if we had any clue where to start.

      Am I going to find this kind of stuff down at a Hobby shop? I've never looked.

    2. Re:For one thing... by rockNme2349 · · Score: 1

      Cool people from around the world to talk with, and you never know who you're going to talk to next. Kind of like fishing

      Yet they all just seem to be guys masturbating...

      --
      Sewage Treatment Facilities - "Our duty is clear."
    3. Re:For one thing... by Sperbels · · Score: 1

      Am I going to find this kind of stuff down at a Hobby shop? I've never looked.

      Probably not. You can google "ham radio equipment" or something like that. Ebay has lots of equipment too. Check out the American Radio Relay League (ARRL) website too (http://www.arrl.org/) for info too.

    4. Re:For one thing... by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Here in the United States, the big umbrulla organization is the Amateur Radio Relay League (ARRL). You can visit their website at ARRL.org. Most areas have their own local or regional organizations, too. And there are swapmeets, and get-togethers and what-not.

      And the really cool thing these days is... there's so much surplus electronic everything floating around that you don't need to go to a hobby shop at all. If you're a hard-core tech ham, you fabricate your rig yourself out of parts on hand. Just visit your local library to get books to read up on it. The 'ARRL Handbook' comes out each year and many libraries keep a copy on the shelf. It's a phone-book sized manual of tech.

    5. Re:For one thing... by DarkKnightRadick · · Score: 1

      It's a phone-book sized manual of tech.

      *drool*

      --
      "There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death." Proverbs 16:25 (NKJV)
    6. Re:For one thing... by commodore64_love · · Score: 0

      I experimented with HAM in the 80s, but quickly lost interest.

      Computer-based communication via BBSes offered so much more, like SID or 8 bit near-cd-quality music. Plus I discovered what women look like via 4000-color downloadable pics on my Amiga. ;-) And of course now we have the internet with instant access to virtually everything, including movies or TV shows. I don't want to discourage you, but remember that HAM is just analog sound. It doesn't really offer much more than that.

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    7. Re:For one thing... by need4mospd · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      HAM radio, the original Chatroulette.

    8. Re:For one thing... by hardaker · · Score: 1

      You need to start by getting a license and afterwards equipment. You're welcome to read my short (ie, not overwhelming) web page on the subject: http://www.ws6z.com/becomeaham.html

      --
      The next site to slashdot will be ready soon, but subscribers can beat the rush and start slashdotting it early!
    9. Re:For one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      visit http://www.arrl.org/, they have some introductory books available there.

      even better do a search on "Clubs" and find one or more close to you and
      attend some meetings. hams are always happy to recruit new people into the hobby.

      if you want to dig deeper check out: http://www.eham.net/ and http://www.qrz.com/ - visit the forums on both sites for all kinds of info.

    10. Re:For one thing... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      I don't want to discourage you, but remember that HAM is just analog sound. It doesn't really offer much more than that.
      ... except for the various digital modes, fast- and slow-scan TV, digital modes that let you communicate around the world with less than one watt of transmit power, and all manner of other fun things. No, not much at all.

    11. Re:For one thing... by commodore64_love · · Score: 0

      >>>digital modes that let you communicate around the world with less than one watt of transmit power

      And which make a 56k dialup modem look fast.

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    12. Re:For one thing... by k2dbk · · Score: 1

      You won't find ham gear or information in your local hobby shop (or at the anachronistically-named Radio Shack, which doesn't sell much in the way of 2-way gear other than cell phones.) However, you can find a lot of information about ham radio at We Do That Radio or the The American Radio Relay League as well as a Google search, Wikipedia, etc.

    13. Re:For one thing... by k2dbk · · Score: 1

      On "HF" or shortwave radio, you can talk to people around the world with 100watts of RF power. 100w is probably 1/3 or less of the power used to run your desktop computer.

      Needless to say, 100w is also about the same power as a 100 watt lightbulb, to make an even simpler comparison.

      Although more challenging, you can also communicate around the world with far less power (what us hams refer to as "QRP", meaning low power). Many people enjoy the challenge required to "work the world" with 5 watts or less, sometimes much less. While you can do this with a GSM cellphone with 2 watts of transmit power, it requires an awful lot of infrastructure to make it work, and the aggregate power required by all that infrastructure is substantially higher.

    14. Re:For one thing... by xquercus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't want to discourage you, but remember that HAM is just analog sound.

      Just analog sound? Hardly... In addition to the vast array of commercial spec digital modes at the Radio Amateur's disposal, we use a few home grown modes: PSK31, WSJT, and WSPR. Radio Amateurs are an incredibly innovate bunch and lead the way in narrow band long distance communications -- North America to Europe for example -- emitting far less power than a typical cell phone. Remember too, Morse is generally transmitted via CW (Continuous Wave). That's ON/OFF keying. That's digital.

    15. Re:For one thing... by smhsmh · · Score: 1

      It's been about 40 years since my General Class license last expired, but 100W rf emission does not compare to the many times that power which would be necessary to power the equipment necessary to send that effective power into the ether. I assume nowadays that semiconductors would reduce the overhead, but (for instance) back then it was necessary to heat the tube cathodes bright red before they would emit significant quantities of electrons...

    16. Re:For one thing... by Eil · · Score: 1

      Talk with people around the world by bouncing signals off the moon

      Or even off-world. There was (still is?) an astronaut on the ISS who would regularly engage earthbound hams. If getting to speak one-on-one to an astronaut while they're in space isn't a story for your grandchildren, I don't know what is.

    17. Re:For one thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can talk to people around the work on HF using under 1 watt.. its call QRP...

    18. Re:For one thing... by Derleth · · Score: 1

      You get to talk without infrastructure

      But with a large amount of more-or-less direct Federal government oversight. To quote the artist, the FCC won’t let you be: As long as you are using the “public airwaves”, you are subject to laws that would not pass Constitutional muster in nearly any other space. You can’t even encrypt your communications to prevent ‘sensitive ears’ from hearing them.

      Anyway, that’s what prevented me from pursuing a Ham license about fifteen years or so ago. I doubt very much has changed since.

      --
      How can you use my intestines as a gift? -Actual Hong Kong subtitle.
    19. Re:For one thing... by dnahelicase · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Not to mention that HAMs are a primary target group to be trained as weather spotters. Most people can't call in a tornado and be taken seriously unless they have pictures to feed to the local news. In crazy weather a ham can call in over VHF to make a credible severe weather report.

      Not to mention the liberating feeling you have knowing that you can control your own means of communication. I can talk to my father using a cheap radio and a string of wire when he is 90 miles away and there is no company trying to control it, charge me, or move me into some contract. With some cheap solar panels and a few car batteries we can talk even if the grid is down.

      When we had some windstorms a few years ago the cell towers were either damaged or overloaded and it took almost 3 days for reliable cell communication and over a week for power to be restored in my suburban neighborhood!

      Hams are also allowed to carry police scanners in their cars when nobody else can, RACES and ARES members can drive on the roads when others aren't allowed, and can play a vital role in rescue efforts in areas that cell phones and business class radios just can't cut it.

    20. Re:For one thing... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      And which make a 56k dialup modem look fast.

      Speed isn't the point. In any case, without amateur radio you wouldn't even have 56k modems. You'd still be stuck with 1200/75.

    21. Re:For one thing... by commodore64_love · · Score: 2, Informative

      >>>without amateur radio you wouldn't even have 56k modems. You'd still be stuck with 1200/75.

      Not even close to being true. First off Bell Telephone already had 1200/1200 modems as early as the 1960s. Second the demand for faster speeds for BBSes is what drove modem manufacturers to push for faster and faster connections (from 2400 to 56,000 between 1982 to 1995). Amateur radio had little to do with it.

      --
      "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
    22. Re:For one thing... by Gordonjcp · · Score: 1

      The higher speed analogue modems used codecs derived from G3RUH's gaussian-filter codec.

    23. Re:For one thing... by WhiskeySix · · Score: 1

      Well said. I have a very stealthy antenna in my backyard, and with 100w I am consistently talking to other hams across the country...oh and I dont have to pay AT&T to do it! When all else fails, Amateur Radio!


      Rich

      --
      Smile like you mean it.
    24. Re:For one thing... by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      "Hams are also allowed to carry police scanners in their cars when nobody else can..."

      Never heard of a law against carrying a police scanner in a car...is this a state or federal law?

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
  13. With the way Comcast and friends are going... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    AX.25 is looking better and better... At least until Sandvine builds AX.25 support into their next product generation...

    1. Re:With the way Comcast and friends are going... by ajlitt · · Score: 1

      Some days my 1200 baud TNC over VHF outdoes my AT&T 3G.

  14. Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by puto · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I remember when I got my license when I was about 14-15 and was damn proud to get it. I had learned morse code in the Boy Scouts so that test was fairly easy. I remember going to "Ham Fests" where you could buy any sort of electronic gizmo, whether for your ham radio, a box of floppies, home grown software, etc. I even bought a fairly powerful FM transmitter. Taking the morse code out of it takes away the learning and the challenge, and also the feeling of accomplishment.

    --
    The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
    1. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Shame on who decided to remove the Morse code test

    2. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by thephydes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not sure that I agree with all you say about code - probably because I was too lazy to learn it myself. However it is still the single most effective non-computer-driven mode that can punch through heavy RF noise and be heard thousands of km away. Here in oz, we have found that now that morse is not a requirement, there has been a surge of interest in it....... odd isn't it?

    3. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a shame they took away the Unix system admin requirement to use the Internet as well, it's been all downhill since then.

    4. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by vlm · · Score: 1

      Morse was useful when it was the only, or one of about two, communications modes.

      When it was just morse or AM voice, it made sense to test morse, since all radio ops, including maritime distress, used morse. Since no one other than hams uses morse anymore, theres no interoperability, and its no longer the main mode of ham radio.

      You want learning, challenge, accomplishment, build an AM NTSC TV transmitter and properly tune it, build a semi-cutting edge microwave transverter, use some exotic sound card digital mode to communicate at -20 dB SNR, try ALE, enter some contests, I've done all that.

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    5. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Hizonner · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that learning Morse is meaningful "learning" or a useful "challenge". It's just an artificial barrier, like being willing to grind in an MMORPG... and it gives you just about as much generally useful skill. CW isn't even the best way to get through with a weak signal on a noisy channel any more. It's a relic.

      If you want a challenge, why not make people demonstrate some real knowledge of electronics (not just soldering together kits), antennas, propagation, coding theory, or whatever? There's important and generally useful knowledge involved in radio, but Morse code isn't it. I've never had a ham license, but the sample tests I've seen have been very light on actual radio engineering. The lower classes have essentially none, and the higher classes have less than they might have. And they're all multiple choice. Let's license people who really understand how their equipment works, can create new designs, can solve real problems. That's a more meaningful barrier... and a lot more fulfilling thing to learn than decoding beeps.

    6. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by viridari · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I resent that the FCC (I'm an American) required people to learn CW to operate a radio. Now that it's no longer a requirement, I'm interested. People often resent being told what to do, even if it's for their own good.

    7. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by PowerVegetable · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Certainly people are still free to learn Morse. I would support an additional certification along the lines of "I'm also Morse code proficient."

      But requiring people to learn Morse in order to get into ham radio just provides an unnecessary barrier-to-entry. The quickest way to kill newcomer interest in any hobby is to make it clear that the insiders don't care about or even resent newcomers. If a kid gets the impression that ham is just a bunch of old-timers reliving their glory days and bitching about how they just let anyone in here these days, they'll move right on by.

      And that'd be a shame. Ham, is just about the only infrastructure-less communications tech we have. And whether it's earthquakes or dictators, you can't always rely on infrastructure.

    8. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by pongo000 · · Score: 1

      I resent that the FCC (I'm an American) required people to learn CW to operate a radio. Now that it's no longer a requirement, I'm interested. People often resent being told what to do, even if it's for their own good.

      The code requirement was an ITU requirement, and the FCC gradually eliminated CW testing requirements over a couple of years. So your resentment should probably be focused, at least on part, towards the ITU.

    9. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      I resent that the FCC (I'm an American) required people to learn CW to operate a radio.

      The CW requirement for HF radio operation was an INTERNATIONAL treaty requirement through the ITU. That's why Technician class licensees without code credit could operate on all bands above 30 MHz for many years, and those that had code credit could operate with Novice privileges below 30MHz.

      It took a few years, but after the treaty was changed, the CW requirement went away.

    10. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 1

      I never complained about the code requirement, but it ended up being a large enough speed-bump (probably more resulting from anxiety surrounding the testing process than actually learning it) that I didn't get around to getting a license until the "codeless technician" license came out.

      After passing that test (on like the first day that code was no longer a requirement), I went back the next week and took the 5 WPM code test successfully :P

      I remained a "Tech Plus" licensee until the 13 and 20 WPM requirements were removed from the higher license classes. I then upgraded to Extra with my old "plus" license getting me out of having to take the (then still required) 5 WPM test again.

      Chances are I'd still be procrastinating if they hadn't reduced/removed the code requirement.

      I really think there's value though in making the requirements non-trivial, or at least making one work harder for the higher class licenses. Having a feeling of accomplishment gives the license a lot more value than if you can just spend a weekend memorizing the questions and answers.

      G.

    11. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 3, Funny

      After the international requirements for Morse were removed, I wondered why I couldn't test in some other mode? I'd rather have tested in PSK31. Much more efficient than Morse...

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    12. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      Knowing morse code was an international treaty requirement for most operation below 30Mhz.

      The FCC removed the restriction back in the 1990's for at least one class of license which (mostly) only allowed operation above 50Mhz.

      When the international treaty was changed, the FCC was pretty quick (only 3 years) to remove the morse code requirement.

      You're allowed to be pissed of, just be pissed off at the ITU, not the FCC.

    13. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by bcrowell · · Score: 1

      Taking the morse code out of it takes away the learning and the challenge, and also the feeling of accomplishment.

      I got my amateur extra class ham license in the 1980's, back when there was still a CW (Morse code) requirement. Can't remember what the required speed was ... maybe 20 wpm?

      Although having to learn it wasn't any big barrier for me, IMO it was a good decision to drop the requirement. Note the /. summary: "Nearly 700,000 Americans have ham radio licenses -- up 60 percent from 1981, a generation ago." This is pretty misleading. (1) The elimination of the CW requirement has lowered the barrier to entry. If the CW requirement was still in place, I'm sure the number of people licensed would be much lower. (2) The population of the U.S. has grown in the last 29 years. (3) The average age of hams is waaaay higher than it used to be. Some people have retained their licenses and kept operating. Others (like me) have retained their licenses but are no longer on the air.

      As far as the argument that it "takes away the learning and the challenge, and also the feeling of accomplishment" -- this is a completely bogus justification. They could require new hams to learn all kinds of obsolete communication technologies, including quill pens and carrier pigeons. I'm sure people could get a great feeling of accomplishment from the learning and the challenge associated with being able to write beautiful gothic lettering on parchment. But why should the FCC be dictating that they learn that *particular* skill?

      There's the argument that the testing kept bad operators off the air, because you had to make some effort in order to learn to pass the tests. This is reasonable to some extent, but it doesn't follow that one of the requirements has to be Morse code.

      And the argument that Morse code is the most bandwidth-efficient and power-efficient method of radio communication is also bogus. With current technology, the most efficient method would actually be to send a CW signal using some other method of digital modulation, with a computer chip doing the encoding and another computer chip doing the decoding. Morse code encoded by hand and decoded by ear is no longer the *best* technology by any criterion; it's simply the *oldest* technology for radio communication. It's cool with me if people want to keep on operating CW. It's also cool with me if people participate in Civil War battle reenactments.

      Unfortunately, ham radio is a dying hobby. Within 20 years, we'll probably see a drastic drop in the number of licensees as the baby boomers start to die. Then the government will probably auction off the spectrum to the highest bidder, and we'll lose a valuable method of emergency communication. It will be a pity.

    14. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure they'd let you, but the VE tests make you wipe all the programming out of any electronics you carry in with you. Hope you memorized the program and can retype it quickly.

    15. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by smchris · · Score: 1

      A "You kids get off my lawn" moment. Morse dyslexic. Never did respond naturally. Hear dit-dah, I was likely to write "n" (dah-dit). So 13 wpm was one of the hardest tests I ever took. And then you had to get up in front of the group and send with a hand key.

      I must admit I have some of that, "I had to do it, you should too" traumatic reaction.

    16. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      Morse Code vs. Not - I too learned it at a young age (when I was in college) and passed the exam to get the license, but I honestly don't feel it should be a requirement.

      You know what I've seen happen a lot lately? People learning how to do code on their own. Personally I think it was a good idea - get them hooked into the hobby, show them modes they may like - they'll pick up and keep the ones they like (and believe it or not - you don't have to force people to do morse code!) and run with it.

      I've honestly seen more people pick up code as a hobby than I ever have in the past.

    17. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by mirix · · Score: 1

      watt for watt, CW still has the highest noise immunity, and therefore longest range, so it still has it's use.

      I'd rather have someone hear "... --- ..." than not hear me over phone or RTTY.

      Although I suppose it's somewhat akin to testing a programmer's assembly skills these days.

      --
      Sent from my PDP-11
    18. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by crossconnects · · Score: 1

      It was an international requirement first throughout the spectrum, then only on HF, and finally dropped altogether. The FCC requirements mirrored the international requirements, although they lagged by several years.

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      no big sig
    19. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      It's not better than PSK31. Phase shift keying is much easier to pull out of the soup than CW.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    20. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And certainly not better than WSPR. From that site: "The program can decode signals with S/N as low as -28 dB in a 2500 Hz bandwidth." In layman's terms, the program can successfully recover the transmitted data even if the signal is 1/630th as strong as the noise! No human ear can come close to that.

      Article on WSPR.

    21. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Allright then, transmit this sentence in PSK!"
      *clears throat* "BEEEEE-WEEEEOOOOOOEEEEOOOOEEEOEEEOOOOO...."

    22. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      I absolutely agree. I hear inverted bits and reversed letters the same. For instance, I confuse W (.--) with D (-..) and G (--.). 5 WPM was _hard_ for me.

      Oddly, sending was never an issue - I could wail away at 20 wpm sending, but not hear a single character receiving.

      --
      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    23. Re:Morse Code Should be a Recquirement Still by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Generating rapid, short, whistles to convey text. Is it that Twitter thing I heard about?

  15. There's a few... by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Talking with people from across the globe.
    2. Various sorts of technical challenges involved making a radio contact with somebody very far away. Sometimes natural challenges (distance, propagation), sometimes self-imposed (deliberate use of a low-power transmitter, bouncing radio signals off the moon or meteor trails).
    3. If you're into DIY electronics, ham radio is heaven. You can build, design and/or use your own equipment. Lately, this extends also to software, too--if you're interested in DSP, software radios can be pretty neat; if you're interested in networking technology, likewise packet radio can be fun.
    4. It's occasionally useful when regular communications channels go down.
    1. Re:There's a few... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Talking with people from across the globe.
      Various sorts of technical challenges involved making a radio contact with somebody very far away.

      Off the globe too. The ISS and many, many shuttle missions carry amateur gear. What's geekier than talking to astronauts live? And doing so from your basement/backyard? Extra geeky and share that enthusiasm with a local school.

      (It's not hard - the ISS isn't that far away...)

    2. Re:There's a few... by Abstrackt · · Score: 1

      Talking with people from across the globe. Various sorts of technical challenges involved making a radio contact with somebody very far away.

      Off the globe too. The ISS and many, many shuttle missions carry amateur gear. What's geekier than talking to astronauts live? And doing so from your basement/backyard? Extra geeky and share that enthusiasm with a local school.

      (It's not hard - the ISS isn't that far away...)

      The difficulties with contacting the ISS are timing and whether they actually feel like chatting though. On the other hand, even non-hams are impressed when I pull out an ISS QSL card.

      --
      They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but it's not one half so bad as a lot of ignorance. - Terry Pratchett
  16. it's impossible for the 'net to goo DOWn......? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so, why would anybody need any other possible means of communication? or broadcast tv? or neighbors?

    you call this weather?

    never a better time to reconnect with your spirit @creators.oxygen.eternity.infinity.cosmos.stillhere/alive/manual

  17. Radio Knights by abbynormal+brain · · Score: 1

    I know several Ham operators and most of them are First Responders of one sort or another, helping out here - helping out there. One went to assist after Katrina. I love the mentality too - when something wrong - they are looking to run towards the problem (and address it) rather than follow the crowd running away from it. Sure - you can call it a "nerdy" hobby but so is D&D. The difference is that a Ham is more useful than *20-sided dice in times of communication failures. So - if you know a Ham - tell them you appreciate what they represent ... event Radio Knights need the thanks while they sit and wait to help.

    * D&D Warning: I don't know if they really use 20-sided dice and before you think of responding and correcting me - think about it - think about how stupid that move would be. If you still can't see it - go for it.

    --
    L'esperienza de questa dolce vita (The experience of this sweet life) - Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
    1. Re:Radio Knights by oracleofbargth · · Score: 1

      * D&D Warning: I don't know if they really use 20-sided dice and before you think of responding and correcting me - think about it - think about how stupid that move would be. If you still can't see it - go for it.

      Yes, we do use 20-sided dice, in addition to many other sizes of polyhedral dice. Though you are correct, the Ham radio is much more useful. You could, for instance, use it to play a long distance D&D game....

    2. Re:Radio Knights by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      Must you choose either/or? I didn't realize D&D was incompatible with ham radio. Hmm, maybe I should start a D&D over the radio group...

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
    3. Re:Radio Knights by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Dungeons and Drakes anyone?

    4. Re:Radio Knights by kd5zex · · Score: 1

      .... .. .... ..

      Meh, had to add some text for the filter.

  18. Back in after 20 year break by Paul+Rose · · Score: 5, Informative

    Why ham radio?
    I'm back into Ham Radio after a 20 year lapse.
    I got my license back when you had to travel to an FCC office for the test and pass a 5, 13, or 20 word per minute listening test for morse-code.
    It is a great nerd hobby, especially if you get into the do-it-yourself aspect, digital modes, or especially software defined radio.
    I can buy a SoftRock kit (google it) for less than $15 that does the initial downconversion and lets me use my soundcard+computer to visualize a large chunk of a single band, decode CW (morse), various digital modes and SSB voice.
    WSPR mode allows you to put your computer to work sending and decoding ultra low power (milliwatts) + ultra low bandwidth (seconds per bit) to communicate around the world on battery power.
    Ham Radio definitely took a hit from the internet and cellphones providing cheap and easy worldwide communications. Removing the morse code proficiency requirement and volunteer examimations has helped bring it back somewhat (I never minded the morse part, but it was a stumbling block for some who where in all other respects a perfect fit for the hobby).
    If I was just interested in communicationI probably would not have come back to the hobby, but the nerd part is just too fun.
    I'm currently using a cheap Direct Digital Synthesis chip (google DDS) interfaced with an Atmel microcontroller (google Arduino) as the basis of a do-it-yourself low power transceiver for digital modes.
    Nerd heaven...
    73 - Paul - K0EET

  19. In these times of Internet by Colourspace · · Score: 1

    castration, DRM, the british (hi there!) DEB, net neutrality, smartphone bandwidth redux.... Is HAM radio the new internet?

    1. Re:In these times of Internet by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      Ham radio is MUCH more restrictive than the internet, make no mistake. It's pretty much a libertarian's nightmare. In order to access the airwaves legally, you must register with a federal agency (regardless of what country you are in, some are far more restrictive than others). You have an active group of users that WILL hunt you down and turn you in if you not in compliance with the letter of the regulation. It's a self-regulating service, and those who take part take that VERY seriously.

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      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
  20. HAM used to be -- by dwiget001 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    -- what geeks of old were into, as far as building radio equipment, upgrading it, etc. before computers came to the fore.

    It's popularity, IMHO, can be explained by it being sort of unique in today's computer age. Additionally, long time radio talk show host, Art Bell, is and has been a long time avid fan and operator. Many of the people that listened to his show "Coast to Coast AM" (he is mostly retired now) were and are HAMs as well. His show lives on with others hosting, George Noory (most of the time) plus Ian Punnett and George Knapp. Art occasionally still hosts a Sunday show, when there is a fifth Sunday in a month. And, from recent listenting, Art is still active as a HAM.

    The show, I believe, is the most popular late night radio show of all time, currently with over 500 U.S. affiliates.

    1. Re:HAM used to be -- by crossconnects · · Score: 1

      Other famous people in Ham radio past and present include Joe Walsh of the Eagles, presidential candidate Barry Goldwater, CBS anchorman Walter Cronkite, and most astronauts. Feel free to add to this list.

      --
      no big sig
    2. Re:HAM used to be -- by Mike+Buddha · · Score: 1

      In all honesty, Art Bell is the reason I got my ticket. I was a shortwave listener and I used to listen to his show at night. Hearing him go on about his ESSB experiments piqued my interest.

      --
      by Mike Buddha -- Someday the mountain might get him, but the law never will.
  21. SDR is the future of the hobby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    What helped me personally to get back into this hobby after a long break is the proliferation of SDR (Software Defined Radio). You can buy a $60 kit, assemble a decent RF front-end and attach it to your laptop (and a good antenna, which is the hard part). Or buy a nice SDR receiver from RFSystems or FlexRadio for around $500. Free (both closed and open source) software is available.
    Google for Softrock40 of SDR-IQ or WebSDR for a start.
    Now you can monitor shortwave communications with capabilities that just a few years ago were only available to professionals in three-letter agencies. I know this is not ham radio (strictly speaking), but isn't this geek's heaven?

  22. Moonbounce by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Informative
    For those of you interested in Moonbounce, google "eme moonbounce". EME is Ham Radio slang for bouncing signals of the moon, and it comes from Earth-Moon-Earth. These signals are in the VHF or UHF frequency sections. Most notably, it is in the 144Mhz (2m) or 432Mhz Mhz.

    Sometimes you also get fun stuff like what's coming up in a week. The Arecibo radio astronomy antenna (huge white dish) is bouncing signals off the moon and listening for ham radio operators in a week or two

    Granted, it takes a fairly big antenna and lots of power to bounce signals off the moon. However, there are computer programs that allow for slow text transmission (think really slow modem) via moonbounce, reducing the antenna and power requirements.

    1. Re:Moonbounce by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

      Granted, it takes a fairly big antenna and lots of power to bounce signals off the moon. However, there are computer programs [nitehawk.com] that allow for slow text transmission (think really slow modem) via moonbounce, reducing the antenna and power requirements.

      He's not kidding either - less than 30 baud...

    2. Re:Moonbounce by Q-Hack! · · Score: 1

      Rule 34 in slow scan TV.

      KC5AOT

      --
      Some days I get the sinking feeling Orwell was an optimist.
    3. Re:Moonbounce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wondered if you can do EME with a 12foot dish and a wifi unit? Might be interesting to know if some type of anycast one packet message system could be setup.

    4. Re:Moonbounce by wwphx · · Score: 1

      There is a story that I'd love to see confirmation of. A communications satellite was launched and the transmitter glitched and started transmitting constantly, so it never heard the signal on the receive side to reset the transmitter. This would drain the battery and kill the bird. They contacted a ham in Texas who had an EME installation that was second to none -- he could transmit kilowatts of power through some very sophisticated antennas. They calculated when the satellite would be over his house, he blasted out the shutdown command at a far stronger level than the transmitter of the satellite was, it tore through the signal to the receiver, and the satellite reset and went back to normal operation. It was saved through working with an amateur radio operator.

      My wife does EME with a laser, but she has the advantage of precision tracking through shooting the laser through a 3.5 meter telescope.

      --
      When you sympathize with stupidity, you start thinking like an idiot.
  23. Meh by Itninja · · Score: 1

    Once the Morse code requirement was dumped, the sex appeal of being a HAM operator greatly diminished IMO. Kind of like the new rules for Scrabble. Anymore it seems like 'introducing to a new generation' = 'dumbing it down'

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    I judt got a nre Kinesis keybiartf so please excusr ant egregiou typos.
    1. Re:Meh by Xoltri · · Score: 1

      Not sure about Morse code having any sex appeal. Ever try picking up chicks by tapping morse code pickup lines on the bar? It doesn't work.

      --
      -Xoltri
    2. Re:Meh by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 1

      Do you know what? As far as I'm concerned, if you want to avoid "dumbing down" the hobby, make everyone take the equivalent of the old Advanced license knowledge test. Morse code had absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. In fact, if you don't have grandfathering and make everyone who has an old license re-take the Advanced test, we could get rid of a lot of the stupid old farts who prattle on about lack of Morse "dumbing down" the license, too.

      --
      That is all.
    3. Re:Meh by jmcharry · · Score: 1

      I thought that for a long while also, but they have made the tests stronger than they used to be. When I took the novice, nearly 50 years ago, I was a kid in junior high. I took the technician as well as a lark and passed it. I choked down the 13 wpm for general, and breezed through the written again. It turned me off on cw for many years. After I got over punishment licensing I read the license manual and passed the advanced to kill time while accompanying my wife to a convention. A bit over a year ago I decided to do amateur extra just for the fun of it. I actually had to study a bit, and I am now a retired EE.

      CW is obsolete. Like sailing, or celestial navigation, it can be fun, but it should no longer be a litmus test for a true radio geek.

    4. Re:Meh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Once the Morse code requirement was dumped, the sex appeal of being a HAM operator greatly diminished IMO.

      Well, hopefully for you, Morse code is not banished. You are welcome to use it. I guess it might become a matter of prestige, sort of like driving a car with manual gearbox shift stick and clutch pedal.

  24. typo by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

    144Mhz (2m) or 432Mhz (70cm).

  25. Coolness factor by bezking · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Let's not forget about how darn cool a ham transceiver on your belt will make you look... Anybody who would rather carry an iPhone instead of one of these obviously does not care about being cool.

  26. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Still, when the shit hits the fan, it IS important to have a backup.

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  27. non-traditional communcations medium by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    Sure its monitored just like all the other stuff, but its a way to communicate around the traditional government-controlled channels.

    personally, I wouldn't go out and get a big fancy certificate, why not just tell the government 'please track me?'

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    I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
    1. Re:non-traditional communcations medium by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      As a self-policed service, the people who did get the big fancy certificate will likely track down your whereabouts and report you to the gubbermint.

      At which point you're hosed. The "Warning Letters" section is always fun. Excerpt: " Operation of radio transmitting equipment without a valid FCC authorization is a violation of Section 301 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, and may subject the responsible parties to substantial monetary forfeitures, in rem arrest action against the offending radio equipment, and criminal sanctions including imprisonment. Because unlicensed operation creates a danger of interference to important radio communications services and may subject the operator to severe penalties, this warning emphasizes the importance of complying strictly with these legal requirements. UNAUTHORIZED OPERATION OF THIS RADIO STATION MUST CEASE IMMEDIATELY. "

    2. Re:non-traditional communcations medium by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      I love reading the enforcement actions section of the FCC Web site. Sure, most of it is boring--power companies causing RFI, CBers with linears causing interference on 10 meters, repeater issues--but sometimes there's some really juicy stuff.

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
  28. hot tubes... by mirix · · Score: 1

    Nothing like a rig full of tubes cookin' away. Not to mention the stuff will still work post apocalypse.

    Man I need to get an old mechanical TTY while I'm at it.

    --
    Sent from my PDP-11
  29. Not to mention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    [...] you'll be one of the thousands of ham volunteers who provided the only communications in/out of Haiti for weeks following the quake, not to mention all of the tactical comms the country had for nearly a month.

    You forgot to mention the exciting possibility of getting shot at while you attempt to do it!

  30. The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Both got people into communication more, in more places, and with folks who they didn't know. People became more interested in new (or old!) technologies that they could fiddle around with.

    Ham radio? No carrier contract? No monthly flat rate? Can choose whatever equipment you want, not whatever cell phone model that your carrier shoves in your face?

    Where's the catch?

    I'll bet that the Telcom Titans really feel like Ham has stuck a weed up their asses. "Curses, those damn meddling kids! Communicating through the airwaves, without us being able to charge them for it!"

    --
    Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
    1. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      Where's the catch?

      There's plenty. No privacy in your conversation. Talking about anything really serious (politics, religion, business) is forbidden, as FCC regulations require that one's communications be limited to informal matters and technical reports and be non-profit in nature. Amateur radio will not seem like an intriguing substitution for a mobile phone to the vast majority of people.

      I enjoyed amateur radio before the wide availability of the Internet, but looking back, it's a real shame that so much of the international communications that amateur radio brought me consisting only of us listing our equipment instead of engaging in any real intercultural exchange.

    2. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by vlm · · Score: 1

      Where's the catch?

      No business related communications, except for very very few exceptions?

      --
      "Science flies us to the moon. Religion flies us into buildings." - Victor Stenger
    3. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      The "catch" is that you can't transmit with a pecuniary interest.

      So if you're doing business, don't do it on the radio. Radio is for talking with friends.

      (Which is why FRS/GMRS - which isn't so restricted - is very popular at hamfests. "Will you take $25 on that old (item)?" "Uhh, be there in a minute." - I've heard that a few dozen times.)

    4. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The catch is that a ham can only talk to other hams using amateur radio. There are exceptions for 3rd party communications, but no matter what a licensed control operator must be on both ends, even if they're simply holding the microphone for their unlicensed 3rd party. Now that the code requirement is gone, give you friend $15 and haul their ass to the next test session because the tests are VERY easy. If you generally take tests well, the only information you'll need to pass the Tech exam is Ohm's Law. It's so easy to deduce the answers from the questions it's not even funny..

    5. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where's the catch?

      can't talk about 'illegal ' things. can't swear. can't use crypto.

    6. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      alking about anything really serious (politics, religion, business) is forbidden

      That's incorrect. You can talk about any issue you want including politics, religion or business. What you can't do is use the amateur radio frequencies for business purposes. You can't even use them to call your boss and tell him you'll be late for work.

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    7. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by CRCulver · · Score: 1

      When I was pursuing licenses in the mid-1990s, ARRL manuals repeatedly stated that those topics were to be avoided. FCC Part 97 strongly suggests that communications not delve into any issues considered controversial.

    8. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      ARRL manuals repeatedly stated that those topics were to be avoided. FCC Part 97 strongly suggests that communications not delve into any issues considered controversial.

      Perhaps, but there's a big difference between "suggests" or "avoid" and "forbidden," as you stated in your original post.

      In any case, people talk about politics, religion and business on the ham bands all the time. No one cares. If you don't like what they're saying, you can always spin the VFO knob.

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    9. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      The reason such topics are discouraged are clearly spelled out in 47 CFR 97.117 from 2004 (emphasis mine):

      Sec. 97.117 International communications.

              Transmissions to a different country, where permitted, shall be made
      in plain language and shall be limited to messages of a technical nature
      relating to tests, and, to remarks of a personal character for which, by
      reason of their unimportance, recourse to the public telecommunications
      service is not justified
      .

      This US rule is a nod to the economics of communication and keeping Amateur Radio alive in other countries. Many foreign countries control their PT&T (Post, Telephone and Telegraph) and would otherwise forbid Amateur Radio if it cut into their revenue stream. The 2009 version is slightly different:

      Sec. 97.117 International communications.

              Transmissions to a different country, where permitted, shall be
      limited to communications incidental to the purposes of the amateur
      service and to remarks of a personal character.

      [71 FR 25982, May 3, 2006]

      --
      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    10. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      You're mixing up Sec. 97.117 with Sec. 97.115 which deals with international third-party communications. That's where the competition with PT&T comes in.

      As far as hams talking politics, it happens all the time. True, it's rare in international QSOs but I think that has more to do with the ephemeral nature of DX which precludes long rag chew sessions (not to mention that there's generally a pile up waiting for a chance of making a contact) than any prohibition. I've been reading the FCC Amateur Radio Enforcement Actions Web page for a long time and have yet to see any mention of them chastising a ham for talking politics.

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    11. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      I agree than 97.115 is a superset of why there are limitations on what we can do wrt other countries (and who can do it), but what other reason can you think of for the existence of 97.117? I don't think ragchewing is the issue - as long as you're off the calling freqs, what's the point of 599 QRZ all the time?

      97.117 used to state very clearly that the message had to be so trivial that "...recourse to the public
      telecommunications service is not justified.
      " That spells it out pretty clearly in my mind - if you have more than "Hello, station is ..." to say, pick up the phone.

      Since the FCC doesn't care about US telco profits, then the logical reason this rule exists is for the telcos in the other countries.

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      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    12. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      97.117 used to state very clearly that the message had to be so trivial that "...recourse to the public telecommunications service is not justified."

      That pretty much describes most ham radio communications! I'm still not convinced that it precludes talking politics or religion but Part 97 is often unclear on things.

      Since the FCC doesn't care about US telco profits, then the logical reason this rule exists is for the telcos in the other countries.

      I agree with you completely there. Unless there's a third-party agreement in place between the two countries, only trivial conversations are allowed when third parties are involved. However, I don't believe that those same restrictions apply to the licensed amateur radio operators themselves.

      --
      This ain't rocket surgery.
    13. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      As I recall back when I was studying, the feeling was that we should refrain from sensitive topics like religion and politics with foreign Hams so that they don't feel uncomfortable or get into hot water with their government.

      Can you imagine the trouble a Cuban ham (for instance) would get into if we got him started talking politics and someone reported him? Ouch! I wouldn't want that on my conscience. I'd rather talk about old cars and warm weather.

      There are plenty of other not-so-tolerant regimes out there that would likely punish their hams for wrongspeak.

      Nice chatting, btw. 73 de k4det

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      Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
    14. Re:The Internet and Cell Phones probably help Ham by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      As I recall, when I took my test there was one question about what shouldn't be said on-air. The possible answers included politics and religion but the correct answer was obscene language. However, in the ARRL Operations Handbook does indeed suggest that politics and religion be avoided in international QSOs for exactly the reasons you mentioned. It makes sense to me--even if all my own DX QSOs were far too short to discuss anything but call sign, QTH, a signal report and possibly the local weather conditions.

      Coincidentally, I made a contact with a ham in Cuba just the other day. No politics were mentioned!

      Always pleasant to have a good, rational discussion with here on Slashdot without anyone resorting to ad hominem attacks. Adults should be able to disagree without it getting personal.

      73, K4DET de KJ6BSO. (I operate PSK31 on 20 meters frequently)

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      This ain't rocket surgery.
  31. Ham Radio + GPS = Fun! by Falc0n · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My 4x4 group (hot4x4.ca) uses VHF almost exclusively due to its reach above and beyond CB. Cell phones usually don't work where we travel either. Depending on the terrain, we can reach over 75kms from each other on just the 2m band w/o a repeater. This only requires a technician (basic) license as well.
    Add in the APRS + Garmin GPS, and your rig turns into a mobile GPS transmitter. We then can track each other, which makes it really easy to find each other. APRS also allows us to send text messages via a p2p network of Ham Radios. Example: we had guys in Reno who we needed to contact because we broke a part on the Rubicon. Couldn't reach them via radio, but with APRS, our txt msgs could be relayed.
    None of this requires anything but the first class license. Its an awesome hobby and there is a lot you can do with it, in addition to Geek cred and ecomm or search/rescue.

    1. Re:Ham Radio + GPS = Fun! by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

      Just curious, what Garmin GPS are you using for APRS, and what equipment was used for that Rubicon message?

      Scott
      N1VG

  32. What also seems entirely forgotten... by carlhaagen · · Score: 1

    ...by the author of the article is that LF/MF/HF radio is used on boats. There isn't a yacht, small or large, on the planet, not equipped with at least a VHF radio - and LF/HF as well for those going far out on the sea. That's right, radio communication is the primary means on the seas.

    1. Re:What also seems entirely forgotten... by Camshaft_90 · · Score: 0

      Walter Cronkite was a ham. He did a lot of sailing with ham radio. Watch his dvd sometime. "When all else fails ham radio to the rescue" Try this link. It is on a slow dsl so you need some time. http://wb9qpm.org/radio/amateur_radio_today.mpg The protocol is mostly point-to-multipoint. It is the nature of the beast. One person transmits from a car, plane, boat, or whatever....Many ears. Also Packet radio. The original text messaging system. The list of things a ham can do that are ubber geeky are very nearly endless. Have you talked directly to the ISS this week. Neato hobby. Jim,

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      JH
  33. Blogs can be wrong??? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

    > ...blogs listed ham radio alongside 35 mm film and VHS tape as technologies
    > slated to disappear.

    But blogs have never been wrong about anything else!

    > Getting rid of the Morse Code requirement... ...was a mistake.

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    Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
  34. Sources by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1
    You won't find ham radio at your Radio Shack. You won't find it at your local hobby shop.

    The Amateur Radio Relay League is a great spot to start. They are the largest Ham Radio organization in the country.

    Another good site with basic info is the How Stuff Works page

    These links will give you a good spot to start. Best of luck!

  35. Re:Morse Code once saved my life by ei4anb · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was asleep (off watch) at night on a small sailing yacht crossing the North Sea. The guy on watch woke me and asked what it means when a ship flashes a light three times. After asking him a few sleepy questions I figured out that the ship was flashing dot-dot-dash with a signaling lamp, the Morse letter "U" which, at sea, means "you are proceeding into danger". After going on deck and confirming that, I helped him tack the yacht and avoid passing between the ship and the oil drilling platform that it was towing. Morse is still used on HF and with Aldis lamps as a backup when more modern modes fail.

  36. Not Quite 60% by TooMad · · Score: 2, Informative

    In 1981 the population in the US was 229,465,714. In 2009 it was 305,529,237. With 437,500 Ham Operators in 1981 that meant 0.191% of the population were licensed operators. In 2009 700,000 meant 0.229% of the population were licensed. It would be more accurate to say that the gain is closer to 20% than 60%. But in the iStuff age for something that been around 100+ years a gain of 20% isn't bad at all.

  37. You need a different mind-set now by Gavin+Scott · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Up until the 80s, ham radio was about doing something that there was no other way to do. Talk to people around the world "for free", without depending on any one else (like the phone company) to make it possible. It really was a magical thing.

    But then the internet came along and ham radio started to die because the internet completely replaced a major part of what made ham radio cool. And so for the last 20 years or so ham radio has been in a sort of limbo and decline due to the rise of computers and the internet.

    But now we're entering a new era, one where "well, duh, of course I could just twitter to people around the world, but communicating via radio is actually more fun". It's now interesting because it's sort of an antique rather than in spite of it.

    There's a progression where things go from "valuable" to "junk" to "collectible". The trick is to avoid throwing them away during the "junk" phase, because eventually they get old enough that they become interesting again.

    G.

    1. Re:You need a different mind-set now by N7DR · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's particularly interesting to me about this is that many people predicted the death of CW (i.e., the use of Morse code) when the requirement to learn it was taken away from the license exams in most countries... and yet in the long-distance amateur radio contests we are finding that the use of Morse Code is quite clearly and consistently rising.

      There are technical reasons why CW is superior to voice transmissions for long-distance communications, but I think a lot of us thought that the relative difficulty of learning the code would naturally lead to people not ever putting in the effort and thereby being in a position to discover its technical superiority for at least some kinds of communications. It seems that we were wrong, for which I am heartily grateful since I find CW simply a more pleasurable mode and was wondering if I would have anyone left to talk to in my dotage.

    2. Re:You need a different mind-set now by mirix · · Score: 1

      and yet in the long-distance amateur radio contests we are finding that the use of Morse Code is quite clearly and consistently rising.

      It's always been that way though. Nothing can or ever will be able to touch CW for noise tolerance, and hence range. FSK and stuff come close, and push more data, but nothing can beat CW. AM phone isn't even in the same league.

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    3. Re:You need a different mind-set now by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      What it probably comes down to is the learning curve.

      If there's a morse code requirement, people will forego getting a (costly) radio until they lean it. Then they never learn it. If they can take their tests and get on the radio right away, there's more incentive: the curve isn't as steep.

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    4. Re:You need a different mind-set now by MattskEE · · Score: 1

      Keep in mind that there are a number of amateurs working on state of the art radio systems, like this guy who does 47GHz radio: http://mightyohm.com/blog/category/amateur-radio/

      There certainly is an "old-fashioned" side to amateur radio, but there are many amateurs out there on the forefront of digital and millimeter wave technology.

    5. Re:You need a different mind-set now by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

      Not true. The old human ear has been surpassed by digital coding methods for a long time. It's now trivial for a DSP algorithm to decode signals 28 dB _below_ the noise floor. Signals you can't even hear it can decode. Look up WSPR for some amazing results.
       

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    6. Re:You need a different mind-set now by mirix · · Score: 1

      Learn something new every day I guess. I'll have to look into that.

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  38. ARRL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't believe I mis-typed that - ARRL is American Radio Relay League!

  39. Computers aren't interesting anymore. by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There are a lot of tech hobbies that disappeared when personal computers arrived on the scene. That's a problem that's been around for some 20 years now.

    But we're now at the point where computers are so ubiquitous, so commoditized, so commonplace ... that for many people they have become downright boring.

    So it's no surprise that there could be a resurgence of interest in other tech hobbies. Ham radio, building simple electronic devices from discrete components, etc.

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    1. Re:Computers aren't interesting anymore. by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      What? There is plenty in computing that's interesting now. PLENTY. (And no, most of the hardware surrounding it can't natively run x86 binaries. )

      ARM and MIPS systems are not only available for sub-$100 right now in single quantities, but they're available with enough computing power to handle some high-level languages - like perl or python, but many others apply. They're small enough to stick anywhere and (sometimes) run for weeks on a (relatively) small battery. The skies are the limits - or, more appropriately, below the limits, as it would take relatively little to put some of these suckers into space.

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    2. Re:Computers aren't interesting anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You've got to be kidding me. Most. Idiotic. Statement. Ever.

    3. Re:Computers aren't interesting anymore. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the most idiotic person ever. You're so stupid, you probably voted for Obama.

  40. Ham Radio and 911 in Lincoln, NE by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ham radio operators recently stepped in to assist in Lincoln, NE after a failure of Windstream's 911 service.

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    1. Re:Ham Radio and 911 in Lincoln, NE by glavenoid · · Score: 1

      It's a shame that your post is so far down here and probably won't get the recognition it deserves. Even in our modern, "always connected" world, shit can and does still happen. Even to POTS which is regarded as one of the most reliable of our modern communication infrastructures.

      As a Lincolnite, and as someone who has needed 911 services a few times in the past couple of years, I found the 911 outage last week to be terrifying! Once the hams scrambled to their locations, I genuinely felt much more secure, and I'd like to express my thanks to them. It was this particular occurrence that made me really want to get my license.

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  41. Handy study apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm studying right now for my Technician license. I plan on taking the exam next week. There's a great little app on the android market that has helped a lot called "Ham Radio Study". I'm interested in packet radio and D-STAR. I thought it was interesting that if your view a webpage over ham radio via a D-STAR gateway, it can't have third party ads, since that's a commercial activity. The user needs to be careful what they pull from the internet across d-star. I wonder if this could end up spawning an 'amature internet'. Yeah, it's way slower than your 20Mbps FiOS, but it has no monthly fees, no overage charges, no 2 year contracts, and comercial advertising is illegal. Sounds good to me!

    1. Re:Handy study apps by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No monthly fees with D-STAR, but it has a hefty up-front cost. Maybe I should look into pskmail instead...

  42. Don't fall for the ham scam! by sourcerror · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't fall for the ham scam!

    BEWARE .... radio is *not* made of Ham, but rather made of plastic.

    This review is from: Galaxy DX2517 10 Meter Base Ham Radio

    I had wanted to get a radio made of ham for an anniversary present, but unfortunately I didn't read the product description properly. This also isn't actually 10 meters big, I was hoping for an approx. 30 foot in circumference radio made of ham. It's much smaller than that and fits on a small desk.

    1. Re:Don't fall for the ham scam! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your humor skills need a lot of work.

    2. Re:Don't fall for the ham scam! by sourcerror · · Score: 1

      Have you realized that it's an actual review on Amazon? (Not written by me.)

  43. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by pongo000 · · Score: 3, Informative

    You might get an opportunity to help out in a disaster, but if your main goal is to help out in emergencies, get trained in CPR, Search and Rescue and other such, but don't count on being a ham to put you in the "Most needed" category.

    Here's another thing to think about: In the U.S., RACES is the de facto organization within the amateur radio community for providing disaster relief and emergency services. In addition, Federal law prohibits RACES stations (or those stations performing RACES duties) from contacting non-RACES stations (97.407). Most government agencies require extensive background checks, including disclosure of your SSN and other personally-identifiable information, to participate in RACES, and your appointment is at the whim of the RACES coordinator. So in effect, you're asked to give up quite a bit of personal information if you want to contribute your efforts to disaster relief. (In fact, in most areas of the country, to participate in WX nets you must have a RACES appointment.)

  44. Ive been wanting to get into HAM by DeadRat4life · · Score: 1

    but i cant really put a big antenna on my apartment building.

    1. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by ckblackm · · Score: 2, Informative

      This book from the ARRL has information on low profile antennas, including ones for apartments. http://www.arrl.org/catalog/order.php3?ocat=Antennas%2C+Transmission+Lines+and+Propagation&owords=&item=9744

    2. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by egcagrac0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Start on 2m & 70cm. A handheld with a little whip can be a lot of fun.

    3. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by MichaelJE2 · · Score: 2, Informative

      but i cant really put a big antenna on my apartment building.

      KD0KYW here, you don't need a big antenna to break into HAM. I only have a handheld 2 meter radio with a 1/4 wave antenna on it. With that radio I can hit repeaters 20+ miles away and have conversations with people way farther away than that. :) If you're in the basement you might not have as much luck, if you're high up you'll do well. My advice: Get a license and see where that takes you. (Oh yeah, I'm 19 btw, so we're not all old)

    4. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by DeadRat4life · · Score: 1

      How much do good handhelds run?
      im 19 too, glad to know there are some youngins out there!

    5. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by DeadRat4life · · Score: 1

      thanks!

    6. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by MichaelJE2 · · Score: 1

      Well, I got my Chinese Wouxun for $80 and bought a $20 antenna for it
      de KD0KYW 43

    7. Re:Ive been wanting to get into HAM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A handheld with a little whip can be a lot of fun.

      Wait, are we still talking about radios?

  45. Re:Morse Code once saved my life by Derling+Whirvish · · Score: 1

    Judging by that story learning Morse code should be a requirement to purchase boat not to operate a radio.

  46. That was no girl. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That was some effeminate dork. Oh wait, that's redundant.

  47. Oh friggin' great... by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just what we need - a bunch of slashbots on HF. FP over PSK, Goatse on 14.235... Dogs and Cats, living together, mass hysteria!

    de N0YKG.

    1. Re:Oh friggin' great... by log0n · · Score: 1

      What could be better??

      Oh, and RIP W3NRT

  48. Ham is not dead and its not on Life Support. by Zarf_is_with_you · · Score: 2, Interesting


    I am rather New to the Ham thing, I thought about it 20 years ago and never did anything about it.

    Last year I took the plunge found a local club that was running a course and took it.

    In the past year I have encountered a new group of friends now granted most of the club has hit the retirement age, but still new people are being added to the ranks.

    It isn't all just boring RF communications, and me being somewhat young compared to the demographic of our club, have shaken things up a bit.

    Modernizing some services, in the past 12 months I have added EchoLink and I.R.L.P. (Internet Radio Linking Protocols) to the clubs repeaters, now these guys can talk to the world just with simple VHF and UHF radios there is a Echolink software which is available even on a Iphone now that can link your Iphone via IP to another EchoLink Station/repeater and you can use it as a Two way radio.

    Many members do not have the facility to put up large HF antenna's to communicate around the world anymore. However now they can simply key up the mike dial some DTMF tones and our repeater is linked another one or conferenced with many around the world.

    Its really helped to get a lot of members active again who can no longer run HF radio's or living in apartments. Talk to the world on a simple hand held radio. And those members that can't run Radio's where they reside can use ECHOlink on a PC to connect them to the clubs repeater.

    I don't believe the Internet has ever put a dent in HAM, HAM has been dieing out for a lot of reasons, technology changes times change think about it, HAM came from the do it your self era. Some of you may remember say the first computers from the late 70's (TRS-80 and all), you had a have a good idea how to fix it and put it together.

    Now a day...well not so much if its broken they buy a new one. I would say most of modern communication systems found a birth place in Ham radio, cellular, mobile broad band for example.

    My concern these days is that kind Innovation is dead.

    HAM old days. two guys wanted to send a data message to each other, they had to figure out how to make it happen in Radio.

    Modern Day those two same guys would send a text message, saying "Wazup!" neither one of the cares why or how it works only that it does, and they care when it doesn't work but don't know why it doesn't work.

    I have rambled on enough!

    73's
    Craig VA3DTF
    Contact Via
    Repeater VE3WOM 147.150+ 103.5
    IRLP 2255 Echolink VA3DTF-L #490033

  49. Licensed when I was 14, now 31. by DefenseEngineer · · Score: 1

    ... N3QEH

  50. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which may just have something to do with the fact that you might be privy to personal identifying information of other people, have access to knowledge of abandoned areas, areas where there is no law enforcement presence (and, by virtue of your presence, no ability for them to be easily contacted), health information on individuals...

    Speaking as someone who works in EMS (Emergency Medical Services), I say "Yes. And ... ?"

  51. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by KingOfTheMoon · · Score: 1

    Still, when the 10-200 hits the fan, it IS important to have a backup.

    FTFY

  52. It's the Baby Boomers by losttoy · · Score: 1

    I am a 32 year old Ham Operator (from India), live in the SF Bay Area (large urban area with a big geek population) and I am a member of some of the biggest radio clubs around here - PAARA, SFARC, FARC. I call BS on this idea that ham radio is still growing. Yes, it might be growing but amongst the retirees not young people. Every visit to any of the club meetings, field events or local nets shows only old retirees. I will be more specific - old white men. With so much ethnic diversity in the SF Bay Area one would expect to see asians, hispanics, blacks etc. None!! Go to the local HRO and it's all old people including the sales staff. This hobby is headed for death. Why? Because not many young people are joining it and the old members aren't very welcoming of the new/younger ones. It feels more like an exclusive club. Ask some old guy a question and you get the look did-you-not-know-this-from-birth or i-cant-believe-you-are-asking-such-a-stupid-question.

    1. Re:It's the Baby Boomers by speedlaw · · Score: 1

      There's a percentage of A-holes in any hobby. These guys think Ham died when the morse requirements were dropped. Fact is they are unhappy with IC's and any part they can't scrounge from a dead TV. Speaking of which, dead TV's are no longer useful for radio parts. Ignore them. They don't run the hobby, even though they think they do. I believe the internet equivalent would be "troll" and "grammar nazi". If you have time to waste, go to any ham website and type in CB radio. They are still ranting like it is 1976, never mind that no one uses CB anymore except truckers.

    2. Re:It's the Baby Boomers by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      You need to move down here to San Diego. Yes, the ham demographic trends old here too but my local club has members as young as ten years old and various racial/ethnic groups including blacks, Latinos and Asians. Women, too. That aforementioned ten-year-old is a girl who got her technician license just last week. And they all welcomed me as a new member and made me feel a part of the community as well.

      73 de KJ6BSO

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  53. Stealth Antennas by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

    I live in a townhouse/condo so obviously I can't put an antenna outside, but my attic is just big enough for a 2/6/23cm vertical and a 20m dipole. I haven't been on the air in a great long time though...

  54. Where can I get more info? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm interested in learning more. Mostly for the geek-cred, but also because it seems like a good way to entertain myself during my daily commute. Can anyone point me in the right direction to get started and find local testing? ( I'm located in NE AR if it helps.)

    1. Re:Where can I get more info? by egcagrac0 · · Score: 1

      http://www.arrl.org/ click on Licensing, then Getting Started in Amateur Radio.

  55. Commercial Traffic on the Ham Bands is Just Fine by xquercus · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, you cannot access the internet over ham radio, not legally. The internet is a commercial infrastructure, and commercial use of Amateur Radio frequencies is illegal.

    While it is widely believed that no commercial traffic is allowed on the amateur bands, this is incorrect. In 1993 the FCC issued a report significantly broadening what is allowed in terms of commercial traffic. These changes are reflected in the current regs. Please see Part 97.113. Commercial traffic which benefits either the operator or his employer are prohibited. Requesting a web page which contains advertisements is just fine. Ordering a pizza online is just fine too (although using SSL is not). You can even email some friends about that old rig you are selling for $50 due to an exemption in Part 97.113(a)(3). Sending instructions to your stock broker or notifying a business client you'll be late, on the other hand, clearly are not OK.

  56. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Skuld-Chan · · Score: 1

    From what I've read actually a good chunk of messages via amateur radio were passed by hams via Cuba over vhf/uhf, but alas - that wasn't reported anywhere but various ham radio blogs.

  57. Tech by Dr.Diesel · · Score: 1

    WA9SDJ

  58. I experimented with Ham in the 1960's but... by pearl298 · · Score: 1

    Yes know I tried it in 1961, but couldn't afford the equipment - so I built my own.

    Somehow I kept coming back until I moved onto a sailboat to sail around the world in 1994 and I am still going.

    Every year there seems to be something new that I haven't tried ...

    de AA4MW, former WB4YKO, former VE3BYO and about 20 others!

  59. American Amateur Radio Equipment Companies by dtmos · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The resurgence of American amateur radio equipment companies is one of the great untold stories recently. I mean, one still has Japanese industry stalwarts Icom and Kenwood, who led the Japanese domination of the industry in the 1970s, but even Yaesu was bought by Motorola a few years back. The real news, though, is the new, innovative startups, doing state-of-the-art, truly wonderful designs, with simultaneous high performance, high quality, and reasonable prices. Companies like Elecraft and software-defined radio pioneer FlexRadio Systems come to mind, producing products unmatched by any of the mainstream companies.

    It's a refreshing change.

  60. In Arizona 2/3 of the stae is beyond cell phones! by pearl298 · · Score: 1

    but ALL of the state can use 2M!

    I regularly help stranded motorists who have a problem but whose cell phone doesn't work ...

    It is not just the Haiti/Alaska Earthquakes that need "emergency" communications!

    In much of the world Ham Pactor (Winlink) is the ONLY way to communicate. Try 2 days to get a phone line to the USA, or 9600 baud "Internet" shared with 4 other users! (Bali, Indonesia)

  61. NEW HAM! by pearl298 · · Score: 1

    Congratulations and don't forget to have fun!

    Hope to see you on the air sometime soon!
    de AA4MW

    1. Re:NEW HAM! by MichaelJE2 · · Score: 1

      Thanks! I've already had some fun with my little HT on 2 meters. Saving up for an HF and studying for General.
      73 KD0KYW

    2. Re:NEW HAM! by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 1

      Thanks! I've already had some fun with my little HT on 2 meters. Saving up for an HF and studying for General.

      Congratulations, and welcome. You're in for a good time.

      Saving up for an HF and studying for General.

      HF is way cool, and the General test is easy. Go for it! I'm working on my Extra and learning code. I've always been fascinated by CW.

      73 KD0KYW de KJ6BSO

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  62. And then there's QRP by rickb928 · · Score: 4, Informative

    For instance:

    Building a rig that fits into an Altoids tin. talking around the world on 5 watts power, for for a real challenge, just one watt.

    This pretty much requires Morse Code, but if you can key out enough to tell people you just picked this up and are learning code on the fly, you will get postcards from all over the world from people who also communicated with you using barely enough power to give you a mild tingle. Morse Code is essential because you can make out chirps and tones from the static, where voice would just be a waste of time. The way the FCC is letting things go, I would not be surprised if they let you use a keyboard and forget paddling entirely.

    Hey, simple codes were good enough for Pioneer, Mariner, etc. That's geek cred - talking around the world with less power than you would need to read the postcard with...

    I got my First Class for a job fixing CB radios, and got hooked a little bit back when code was required. I hated code. Helped a college FM station stay on the air for a little while. Being able to solder well got me into several circles, and I was building Heathkit rigs for people for a little while, cause they liked the perfect joints and wire ties I learned in the Air Force, when whire ties were waxed cord. I still think they are pretty, and I did a cabling job with about 200 drops once all in flat nylon lace, just to show the guys how nice exposed cabling could look. But that was then. Now there are so many great kits out there, Amazing. I really ought to get back into it. Oh yeah, I let my ticket lapse when I got sidetracked by soccer and girls. Feh.

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    1. Re:And then there's QRP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Morse is an interesting field and QRP can be a lot of fun, but morse is a total chore if you're not interested. Many were drawn to radio due to computer tech such as RTTY and computer morse, why should you be forced to learn morse if you never intend to manually key?

    2. Re:And then there's QRP by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      For one thing, Morse gets through when voice fails, even slow speed data. Morse is still useful.

      But QRP pretty much demands Morse. So if you want to play the ultimate game in ham radio, you'll at least be able to send code.

      Me? I would cheat and make a keyboard. I can't even want to paddle, and my hand was never very good, always loping and stuttering. A Navy guy told me once I made him puke. I cannot imagine sitting down and listening to groups again just to get to 20wpm and go take Section 3 again. If I never diagnose another Colpitts oscillator in my life, I will die happy. Thankfully digital technology solved a multitude of problems.

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    3. Re:And then there's QRP by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

      For one thing, Morse gets through when voice fails, even slow speed data. Morse is still useful. But QRP pretty much demands Morse.

      I've been out of this for a number of years now, but my understanding is that PSK31 gives Morse a run for its money, and is therefore popular for QRP.

  63. SHTF demographic? by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many of the new ham users are of the survivalist variety. Ham radio is viewed by many proponents of preparedness as the end-all, be-all in cellular communication: when the lights go out, and the infrastructure by which all of our modern toys communicate, ham will be the ultimate communication tool: you can tunnel any number of communication protocols over it, it's versatile (long and short range) and has the spectrum to allow for a fairly large (compared to CB and FRS) number of users at any one time.

    I suspect that a large part of the adoption is due to concerns over centralized government and its apparent increasing encroachment upon our freedoms. These weren't such dire concerns 30 years ago, and there wasn't the glaring example of it being done successfully (China) as there is now. Ten years ago, it was thought "there's no way the government could sensor the Internet"; well, things are starting to change...

    The "last time" we had a strong surge in survivalist mentality was during the late 1970s when CBs were the hot new thing (within people's price range) - so that's what they got. But CBs are horribly limited compared to ham.

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    1. Re:SHTF demographic? by speedlaw · · Score: 1

      Most hams are "prepared" but not nutjob survivalists. I have a 12v source for my ham rigs. When the power goes out due to a storm, I have radio and communication. The internet (and cell network) is tissue paper. It requires a massive infrastructure to work, electric power, etc. If you get any sort of real stress on the system, such as a war taking out a few satellites, or just plain old severe weather, or maybe, oh, an earthquake, you see how a wire, radio and 12 volts are very important. Prior to the internet, ham was the only way to talk far away without a very expensive toll call. While that unique selling point has gone with the advent of listservs, forums and blogs, it does not mean that the usefulness of ham is gone. I just had a great impromptu chat with a guy in Northern Ireland.

    2. Re:SHTF demographic? by tsm1mt · · Score: 1

      What's the current prognosis on whether or not the ionosphere would be scorched out of the sky by a nuclear war?

      I was reading somewhere that at least at one time the prevailing thought was that a nuclear exchange would wind up burning the ionosphere such that "skip" on the HF bands would be destroyed (or maybe 160 would open up more?) and we'd be stuck with ground wave propagation.

  64. N6SVT back in the day by mrflash818 · · Score: 1

    But I let it expire when I started to use Slashdot instead :)

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  65. Just renewed my license a few months ago... by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

    Now I am in the market for a new radio. Tri-band VHF, maybe.

    Anyone have recommendations for a base, mobile, and/or handheld?

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    1. Re:Just renewed my license a few months ago... by wowbagger · · Score: 1

      By Tri-Band, do you mean 2m/70cm/1.2GHz, or 6/2/70, or ???

      For an all-band HF/144/440 rig, I've been pleased with my Icom 7000, but that's a US$2K radio.

      The Yaesu VX-7 is a nice multiband HT, and that's what I'd get if I had to replace my current HT.

    2. Re:Just renewed my license a few months ago... by Fnord666 · · Score: 1

      The Yaesu VX-7 is a nice multiband HT, and that's what I'd get if I had to replace my current HT.

      I'll second that. I've owned several Yaesu HTs and they have all performed very well for me.

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    3. Re:Just renewed my license a few months ago... by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      Probably 6/2/70.

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    4. Re:Just renewed my license a few months ago... by Kymermosst · · Score: 1

      I'm liking that VX-7 from the specs. Think that's what I want for an HT.

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  66. A great vector for interesting folks by speedlaw · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ham radio has gotten me into running Rallies. Turns out that International Rally New York needs hams to help stage the event. Fellow Rallyists will understand that Car 0 is a great ride, and ham radio got me there. Talk to a lot of folks who have interesting jobs and lives in the morning on 2 meters (VHF like your local PD and Fire). Without even trying hard, have worked most of Europe and much of South America. This with a modest 100 watt HF radio and a wire in the back yard. No huge amps, no tower, no beam. Makes Wifi real easy....just really, really short waves. Saw someone in Brooklyn today, who had a home made Yagi antenna. Was impressed till I figured out he was just using it to steal bandwidth from a nearby building. Unlike the digital world, ham radio does not have DRM, a DMCA, or any of the other crap that interferes with a hobbyist/hacker. OK, some of the individual hams are funny in a pathetic sort of way, but that's no different than a lot of the guys still stuck in mom's basement. Ham radio gives me the ability to run a scanner in my car, have full communications on VHF with a huge network of repeaters, and an understanding of RF that translates into any other aspect of TV, radio, wifi, etc. I'm sure you all have a dual band, spread spectrum, frequency hopping full duplex radio...er, cell phone.

  67. I don't buy any of this by maxrate · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Im relatively young, and I've had a license for about 10 years now. I've noticed a decline of activity certainly on the repeaters and APRS traffic. Many of the HAM/Amateur resources have declined on the net as well. I understand that HAM is not all about 2m repeaters/FM voice - but that is the basic internet eqv of a "ping". For instance, ATV (amateur TV) should be SO easy to get into, but I have never experienced a downlink from anyone ever broadcasting a signal, and it's ridiculously simply for anyone to receive an ATV broadcast using an old TV set. I mean, sending a TV signal thru the air, how cool would that be? Yes, there are a lot of experimental potential of the bands, but few are doing anything with it.

    I am not trying to be a snarky person - but this is my observation. I'm certain there are the odd folks spread across doing a few cool things, but not enough of them to really notice.

    Other problem is there are a lot of 'uncool' old farts on the air. I don't mean anyone who happens to be well seasoned or older, I mean folks who are downright nasty and don't encourage the young to experiment. They have this elitest attitute which keeps people uninterested in participating - or when people are 'rag chewing' it's always incredibly boring. Nothing of interest, if you start you own conversation you inevitably get someone on the air breaking in, giving you a hard time about whatever they can think of.

    I love the idea of HAM radio, and I really hope the FCC doesn't get any ideas to release airspace for commercial interest, but we need more innovation and more lax attitudes about protocol to keep things social and to keep things growing.

    There are just so many useful, fun and interesting things that can be done with the spectrum, and the amateur community has had years to work on things, but nothing materializes. Reminds me of open source projects that get abondoned. Very sad. Internet definately was a major blow to HAM radio. I remember witnessing (didn't have the license then) accessing HAM BBS's over the airwaves at 9600 baud - was so cool. I eventually got the license and there was only one reachable HAM BBS and it was about 80 kms away - then it went off the air forever.

    By the way, I just purchased an ICOM IC-7000 - awesome radio, just wish a TNC was built into it!

    1. Re:I don't buy any of this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get off of my lawn! (There's so much RF you'd be injured after a few minutes.)

    2. Re:I don't buy any of this by WhiskeySix · · Score: 1

      Maxrate -

      I have a Yaesu 857D, and wanted to get into digital modes, I found a great little Kantronics KPC3 at a ham swap for $90, I was home setting up my own radio based BBS and Mailbox within an hour, and able to start sending and receiving PSK31 same day - very cool stuff, and for a minimal investment for the TNC.

      Shop your local ham swap, or check ebay - http://bit.ly/a6I15p


      Rich

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    3. Re:I don't buy any of this by maxrate · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that info - I will check it out

  68. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Derleth · · Score: 1

    When the shit hits the fan, how are you going to power your radio? How are you going to fuel that generator? And if the infrastructure to do those things exists, how long is it going to be before cell coverage is re-established?

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  69. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In the U.S., RACES is the de facto organization within the amateur radio community for providing disaster relief and emergency services.

    ARES [Amateur Radio Emergency Service] is another, and in many areas the two have a unified command structure for ease of organization. i.e., you register as an ARES station, and you are also registered as a RACES station. For example, this is the case in my home state of North Carolina.

    In addition, Federal law prohibits RACES stations (or those stations performing RACES duties) from contacting non-RACES stations (97.407).

    During periods when RACES has been activated (i.e. during an emergency). Stations participating in RACES may not contact stations not participating in RACES. This is because during a declared emergency when the airwaves become restricted, the only stations that may operate are those participating in RACES or ARES activities in coordination with their local emergency organizations. This should not be interpreted to mean that during non-emergency periods, stations that are registered in ARES/RACES may only communicate with other stations registered in ARES/RACES. That's simply not the case. Except during a declared emergency, any licensed amateur operator may communicate with any other licensed amateur operator within their respective authorized bands and modes. However, if an amateur operator wants to operate during such times that RACES is in effect, they must register as an ARES/RACES station. In North Carolina, all amateur operators are encouraged to register in ARES/RACES.

    Most government agencies require extensive background checks, including disclosure of your SSN and other personally-identifiable information, to participate in RACES, and your appointment is at the whim of the RACES coordinator. So in effect, you're asked to give up quite a bit of personal information if you want to contribute your efforts to disaster relief. (In fact, in most areas of the country, to participate in WX nets you must have a RACES appointment.)

    I don't know what area you're in, but that is not the case across the board. The NC ARES registration form asks for name and contact info, call sign, class, operating bands and modes, EMCOM classes taken, and whether or not your station can operate without commercial power. No SSN or background check required. And as I said before, registration in ARES is registration in RACES, in North Carolina. As a licensed operator, you've already given personally-identifiable information to the FCC to obtain your license. The ARES registration form doesn't ask for much beyond that.

    In recent years, the Department of Homeland Security has instituted a requirement for all amateur operators participating in ARES/RACES, to have completed some EMCOM courses - namely, IS-100, IS-200, and IS-700. These are all available for free online, but registering for them does require the submission of your SSN, as that is how the DHA keeps their records. However, the SSN is not shared with your local EC or ARES/RACES chain of command.

  70. Misleading statistics? by Rorschach1 · · Score: 1

    I don't have the figures for the US, but check out this graph of the number of licensed hams in Japan from 1953 to 2006:

    http://www.k0nr.com/blog/uploaded_images/Japan-radio-license-chart-710990.jpg

    So yes, maybe up a bit from the early 1980s, but down by more than half from 1995. I suspect you'd see the same trend elsewhere.

    I don't mean to be discouraging about the hobby - in fact, I make a living in large part from designing and producing ham related equipment. And really, I think it's possible that the hobby as a whole is getting more technical and more experimentation-oriented again. Short-range VHF/UHF voice communications and long-range HF voice and Morse code were the main reasons many people got into the hobby in the past, and now ubiquitous cell phones, email, and cheap long distance calling have eliminated most of the draw for the sort of ham who might be pejoratively described as an 'appliance operator'. Those who bother to get licensed these days are more likely to be geeks and DIYers.

    If you use the FCC spectrum auctions of recent years as a yardstick, then the spectrum hams have available to them for free is worth billions of dollars. If you have any interest at all in hardware hacking or emergency preparedness, it's well worth the trouble to get your ham license.

  71. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    RACES is for governmental communications performed by amateur volunteers. ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Services) and SKYWARN in most areas have nothing to do with RACES. And, I am a Deputy RACES officer here in the Pittsburgh, PA area and never had to submit to any extensive background checks or disclosure of any of my personal information. It's up to the served agency who appoints their RACES officers... and if they require what an individual beleives is too much, you simply say no thanks and volunteer for another service like amateur radio comms for the Salvation Army, Red Cross, your local municipality, the National Weather Service or the National Traffic System where volunteers practice in the art of receiving, relaying and delivering health and welfare messages.

    -Dave, KB3FXI

    You might get an opportunity to help out in a disaster, but if your main goal is to help out in emergencies, get trained in CPR, Search and Rescue and other such, but don't count on being a ham to put you in the "Most needed" category.

    Here's another thing to think about: In the U.S., RACES is the de facto organization within the amateur radio community for providing disaster relief and emergency services. In addition, Federal law prohibits RACES stations (or those stations performing RACES duties) from contacting non-RACES stations (97.407). Most government agencies require extensive background checks, including disclosure of your SSN and other personally-identifiable information, to participate in RACES, and your appointment is at the whim of the RACES coordinator. So in effect, you're asked to give up quite a bit of personal information if you want to contribute your efforts to disaster relief. (In fact, in most areas of the country, to participate in WX nets you must have a RACES appointment.)

  72. Ham in Haiti. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did use Ham in Haiti for a couple of years. It was *ABSOLUTELY* necessary for security. The political violence is pretty much over, but when things were hot, you'd hear it go down on the Ham first. It was used to alert UN to firefights that popped up, and to everyone else to avoid the area. I'm not sure if it was used after the earthquake or not. I didn't ask when I was down there recently. But, it wasn't the only means of communication. Cell phones worked for most of the day of the quake, before they had to shutdown their data center due to overheating.

  73. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by pongo000 · · Score: 1

    That may be the case in PA, but here in TX, background checks are extensive, and to participate in SKYWARN you must be a RACES station. So RACES standards differ from region to region. That's an interesting factoid.

  74. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by pongo000 · · Score: 1

    This should not be interpreted to mean that during non-emergency periods, stations that are registered in ARES/RACES may only communicate with other stations registered in ARES/RACES. That's simply not the case. Except during a declared emergency, any licensed amateur operator may communicate with any other licensed amateur operator within their respective authorized bands and modes. However, if an amateur operator wants to operate during such times that RACES is in effect, they must register as an ARES/RACES station. In North Carolina, all amateur operators are encouraged to register in ARES/RACES.

    Interesting...the interpretation in the area of the country I live in is that any RACES operation (SKYWARN, practice nets, etc.) fall under the "non-comm" rule. In fact, the local RACES coordinators seem to do what they can to discourage those who are interested in joining by instituting some rather onerous requirements, including submission of your SSN to the RACES organization.

    All good info, but given the entrenched "good 'ol boy" network where I live, I doubt that the RACES folks would be interested in having the errors of their way pointed out to them.

  75. Will someone please think of the digital modes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Amateur radio + computers for the win! We can learn more about the hobby than ever before, when the webs are working, and replace them with soundcard digital modes when they're not. The best fun is field day. Setting up an emergency powered station in the park, or in the back country. A portable station can save your life, and cheaper than a sat radio too. Great fun on a fishing trip, when the fish, or the weather won't co-operate.

    The absolute mecca of geekdom, IMHO is the Dayton Hamfest, this (and every) spring. More radio, and computer equipment than you can possibly imagine. Judging by what I hear on the bands, CW is alive and well, and becoming an art form for those who wish to use it. Even the computer software is learning to copy CW well, and it sends too. That great sounding OM might be a microprocessor.

    One of the most crippling failures for the wire-line phone and data systems here in Canada is a cable cut in a suburban area. No landlines to 911, or back out to the responders, hospitals, police & civic authorities. A couple dozen ham operators can form a net around the area in a few minutes, and hold it together until the fiber is spliced. Usually no big emergencies, but the powers that be sure like to stay in touch.

    Happy to be a ham. Glad to help where I can. Ready to serve my community. 73

  76. de kc2kth by slasher999 · · Score: 1

    Licensed a few years ago, upgraded to general last year, 40 years old.

  77. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by k2dbk · · Score: 1

    In fact, in most areas of the country, to participate in WX nets you must have a RACES appointment.)

    Define "most". It may be true in some areas but I have a hard time believing it's most. While in many areas you are encouraged to have taken (free) NWS training to become a Skywarn spotter, you aren't required to do so. As an example, the New York City metro area most certainly doesn't require RACES certification to participate in any of the nets, and as a former Skywarn Deputy Coordinator, I can tell you that such a thing was never even discussed.

    That said, it is unfortunate that there are some people who seem to have a "control complex" and are more interested in being in control of others than they are of providing service to others.

  78. Picked up mine after the Seattle quake by Helen+O'Boyle · · Score: 1

    As a no-code tech, I'm feeling a bit inadequate here, but be that as it may. My radio is with me when I'm at home and whenever I'm out doing something where it's more likely than usual that I'll be out of cell contact (think bike rides in the countryside), just in case. I started declaring I wanted a license back in the 1980's. For a long time, I held out because I wanted one of the "real" licenses that required Morse Code, and I was simply having a hard time learning it due to lack of time to obsessively devote to it until I'd "gotten it". I finally got my no-code tech 20 years later. What helped push me over the edge: I was in Seattle when we hard our earthquake. Cell phones were down for hours, and (back then) the laptop I was using to access the Internet only lasted an hour and a half without power. No one else was home when it happened. I decided that an extra bit of communication redundancy *NOW* was better than no license at all until I qualified for one of the higher classes.

    1. Re:Picked up mine after the Seattle quake by sjdude · · Score: 1

      I live in northern California and we frequently have a loss of cellular service after even a moderate quake. I decided that ham radio was the only way to really be sure you could communicate in the event of a real disaster and got my ticket for that reason. I only have a 5w HT but if we have to evacuate if we ever get The Big One, I will be able to communicate even if cell towers are gone. Not predicting (or wanting this, of course), but for the effort and cost (moderate/low), I think it was well worth the investment.

  79. no morse code????? by nobodie · · Score: 1

    I got my novice in 1964, when i was 9 years old, for about three months I was the youngest ham in the world, or so I was told by the hoary oldsters that helped me through. I worked on my general, but frankly i wasn't enough of a geek to figure out radio theory when i was ten, call me lame if you will. BUT, i still know the code and could, theoretically CQ on a key (one of the old up and downers, not one of the sexy "new" --1964 new that is-- sideshooters. I did build my own receiver and transmitter and strung a 10 meter antenna between a tree and the house. You don't even know what old school is nowadays kiddies.

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  80. Radiosport by isdnip · · Score: 1

    HR is really popular in Russia, where it is called Radiosport. It has a lot of geek-friendly sporting activities. For instance, DXing is trying to talk to as many countries (loosely defined!) as possible. Contests take place many weekends, to try to make as many contacts according to some set of rules (to a given place, to as many lat/long squares, to as many countries, on a certain band, etc.). Some people do fox hunts (hide a transmitter and try to find it with a portable radio and direction antenna).

    And yes, there's the ability to just chat with fellow geeks, anywhere, without depending on somebody else's network.

  81. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by bkeahl · · Score: 1

    I am in complete agreement with you on this sir. CPR, First Aid, and training with CERT, CAP, Red Cross, Salvation Army and others will be of great help in an emergency.

    CERT (Community Emergency Response Teams) is a volunteer system usually run by local fire departments to train civilians in basic emergency response. I found this training very interesting and it is designed for almost anyone to understand and complete - often over a few Saturdays. Best of all, it's sanctioned by the local Emergency Management Agencies and lets you become familiar with the local first responders.

    CAP (Civil Air Patrol) has long been a great group to work with. The training is more involved and formal because of the military association, but the organization does a lot to build character in young people and assists citizens in being better prepared for emergencies.

    Of course, Red Cross and Salvation Army are so well known, what more is there to say? They too offer great support services during disasters.

    And Amateur Radio plays a part in every one of these organizations (but only a part and experience in it is not even remotely a requirement to be involved in any of these).

    After September 11th there has been a push on for agencies to be able to "interop", communicate with each other using compatible radios. One of the biggest reasons for amateur radio in the past 20 years has been that local police couldn't communicate with the fire department or the state law enforcement people. Everyone was on their own frequencies and/or squelch systems. Amateur Radio operators were often the glue that allowed information to move from one level to the other since our gear was designed to communicate with as many people as possible. That's all changing now, as there is a big push for inter-agency communications.

    Amateur Radio will ultimately be a third or fourth option for emergency management - but will always be useful to those groups I mentioned previously.

    73 - KI4LZG

  82. Great for todays connected world by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have had my license for 15 years but I have used it more at work in the last year and a half. We started a project using WiFi and WiMax that I have contributed greatly to. It is amazing how much the principles I learned from the books and tapes I studied for the tests apply to what we are doing at work from antenna design, antenna radiation patterns and choosing cables to identifying sources of interference and signal loss.

  83. on the down side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I tested and passed general. Got the callsign and found out this really wasn't for me. Don't hate me. The homers and other hams were great. The equipment is still expensive. How many netbooks could I buy for the price of a $1000 flex - and that's without an antenna? and kits are very restricted. If you get a kit that normal people can assemble, it's usually on one band and cw mode. Other kits require surface mount soldering. This is not for a noob. But when you get on the air, there's the pay-off. It's like listening to a random facebook pages or twitter feeds. Mostly, all I heard was old guys talking about their medical problems, the weather, or younger hams bragging about their rig and how powerful or how much they spent. In fact, it really seems to be the originator of social networking. I'm anti-social. In fact, I'm only posting this as a warning to other anti-social geeks. I was really let down. Sold the ham stuff. On the bright side, I made a profit on my ham stuff. If you like ham, more power to you and 73's.

  84. kb0nnd before /. by dolo724 · · Score: 1

    and still hamming it up

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  85. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Wovel · · Score: 1

    You apparently have not spend a lot of time around Ham operators who have put a lot more thought into those questions than you can imagine. Believe it or not, it is possible to power electronic devices without electricity from the grid!

  86. Re:What is the draw and use of this stuff? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you're interested enough to ask, you may find a passion in Ham radio if you investigate beyond a cursory look.

    It's different reasons for everyone to be attracted, Amateur (Ham) Radio has so many interesting facets it's difficult to choose sometimes.

    I live in a remote area, and mainly use the 2 meter vhf band for emergency communications, and participate in a county wide, weekly, emergency preparedness net via a linked repeater system (a kind of amplifier high on a mountain top to extend the radios range, each with emergency back-up power).

    I also participate in a weekly simplex emergency preparedness net, which means we communicate person to person (radio to radio) without going through a repeater, in case that system goes down too.

    Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my small town doing so, but I can talk to a few other Hams on ridges 15 or more miles away who can relay messages over the coast range to the Office of Emergency Services inland.

    And I can tell you that during an extreme emergency like a severe storm or earthquake, when all the power is out for days at a time, it's quite likely I'll be the only communication link to the outside world for the first 2 or 3 days, with my portable 2 meter vhf station (50 watt 2 meter vhf transceiver, robust copper pipe J-pole antenna, 30 foot collapsible Fiberglas mast, 12 volt deep cycle battery, 4 solar panels.).

    During an emergency where the power has gone down, my station can run for over 40 hours, at full power without the solar panels.

    I'm seeing if I can hook up with Big Brothers/Big Sisters to start a Ham group to get some young blood into helping during an emergency.

    73 (singular usage, means: "best wishes")

  87. Other Paths to Walk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In our county we have emergency nets on a linked repeater system, and via simplex relays.

    None of us are RACES and have no need for background checks etc., and we participate and interact with the County Sheriff and Office of Emergency Services without any issues during drills and actual emergencies.

    We roll our own here.

  88. RSS feeds got me into it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got interested because a couple of years ago I read a page about a steampunk morsecode clicker that got fed RSS feeds. Then I wanted to learn morse code. I practiced over IRC and TCP connections, but there's not a lot of users, so I got started with a reduced licence (10Watt) QRP CW. With this I can reach all of Europe, and sometimes other continents (only 10Wat!!).
    The biggest problem ATM is intereference from neightbourhood ethernet-over-wire that plugs into peoples homes electrical grid.

  89. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    Google "Field Day"...

    Hams have turned "operating off the grid" into a nationwide contest, that serves multiple purposes:
    1) Fun
    2) A contest
    3) Practicing offgrid operation and rapid deployment of antennas/gear

    Ham emergency response organizations have standardized power connections to a greater degree than industry (Anderson PowerPoles rock!)

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  90. Worcester Area Exam on Thursday by maroonhat · · Score: 1

    Anyone in the Worcester area who wants to get licensed can come by WPI's Slasibury Hall, Room 407, 1800 hours, Thursday, April 8th, for our next exam!
    The fee is only $15, bring two forms of ID

    73
    KC2VCB

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  91. Re:Morse Code once saved my life by Muad'Dave · · Score: 1

    FYI, here's a nifty site with the semaphore and Morse signals the parent mentions. Here's the Dry, Boring Federal PDF.

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  92. Intelligent people have special forms of dumbness by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 1

    So, who actually dominates, intelligent people, or libertarians?

    The thing you're missing is that intelligent people are all too often vulnerable to forms of stupidity that average people aren't, and libertarianism is one--it's a One Grand Theory That Explains Everything in a Nutshell(TM), and nerds tend to be suckers for that sort of stuff.

  93. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by kj4gxu · · Score: 1

    I'm curious, is this a requirement that the local NWS office has put in place or is it that the local RACES organization runs the net most people participate in and they won't let you play in their sandbox unless you're RACES? Nationally there is no requirement to be a member of RACES or even a HAM radio operator to act as a storm spotter. If it's just that the RACES folks won't let you play in their sandbox run your own Skywarn nets and make arrangements to relay info back to the NWS on your own. Around here our local ARES EC runs most of the Skywarn nets but any are welcome to check in if they have information to report although we do encourage the NWS Storm Spotter training it's not a requirement.

  94. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's RACES, and then there's ARES. RACES I understand hardly ever gets activated and can only work with the government, for the government. However, there's ARES (Amateur Radio Emergency Service) that seems to be much more active. I can't speak for the rest of the country, but in the Midwest, ARES seems to be the predominately active service providing emergency communications, even to the government.

    73's, KD0INN

  95. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by tsm1mt · · Score: 1

    Well, a crystal radio doesn't require any more power than the radio waves being received themselves to work, so my crystal radio will work "forever" (sadly, it's only AM so no SSB capabilities) Otherwise, when the AA batteries fail there's always solar, or a dynamo. I have a SW receiver that (again, AM only) runs 30 minutes after cranking it 60 times. As to the transmitter.. if you're into the QRP thing, there's always the age old potato battery that might get you enough juice, if some other means of charging isn't available (solar being ideal).

  96. Re:Become a ham because it's fun, not just for emc by pongo000 · · Score: 1

    This is good to know. I suspect it's a local RACES requirement, and they make you believe that you have to be part of their organization to run with SKYWARN. Your response has spurred me on to do some additional research. All I really want to do is participate in SKYWARN (lots of nasty weather here in the spring), but I don't have much of a desire to get caught up in RACES.

  97. Ham Radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    you might want to think about being able to communicate when King Obama shuts down american access to the internet, which he is now empowered to do, on his own initiative. He can shut down ALL American servers as a part of handling anything HE determines is a threat to American "national security," which of course would include his continued reign as "His Majesty the President Obama."

  98. On line Casinos by lsatenstein · · Score: 1

    Is Poker included, or just horse racing, keno, and sports betting? What about state lottery tickets? Are they to be included too. Have we to go to the corner store to buy a lottery ticket?

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