Clusters are clusters, but not all clusters are equal.
You have high speed compute clusters like Beowulf.
Then there's the first type of High Availability clusters -- the hot standby/failover configuration, where services and storage on one system are reassigned and restarted by another if the first goes away. Most Unix and Linux implementations haven't got beyond this yet.
Then there's the more grown up version of High Availability clusters, where all the clustered systems have concurrent access to the same storage, cluster wide lock management, and can run multiple cooperating instances of the same application on all systems. Like Oracle Parallel Server. VMS pioneered this ; Tru64 Unix has it now, and Linux is working towards it with GFS (the Global FileSystem).
GFS has got to be one of the most exciting current Linux developments in my book. I've had a taste of this kind of clustering on Tru64 Unix, and believe me, once you've experienced it you don't want to go back.
Oh dear, if this is the way all CDs go then I'm screwed. When setting up my home Cinema system I got a DVD player with dual lasers so that I'd get good quality CD play. This is then hooked up to a Yamaha Radio+Amp and Boss Accustimas speaker system. Then I ditched my old Hi-Fi because I no longer need it.
The only place I listen to CD's is in the Car, on my PC in the Office and on my DVD player in the lounge. So I'm going to be relegated to only listening to new music in the car! Even this might be compromised. With car crime being what it is, I don't often want to leave expensive original CD's in the car, so sometimes burn a copy for car use only. I'm within my personal copy rights to do that aren't I?
So basicly I could be really screwed over by this:-(
I don't think you understand. The people this proposed legislation is aimed at, are not people who offer an alternative point of view, and then try to bring this to fruition via the ballet box. If that was all they did, there would be no problem.
What they do is incite hatred, human division and violence, setting man against man. Perhaps if I label them "domestic terrorists" you'll get the idea. Think of their 'freedom of speech' as freedom to spread propoganda. Yes, propoganda, because to them it IS a war!
> You know, this reads almost EXACTLY like a
> statement from a fundamentalist school board
> when they published a list of books that our
> school library couldn't carry.
I doubt very much that the fundamentalist school board you're talking about advocate race and religious hatred and the taking of human life.
The more these people are left unchecked to recuit more to their cause through lies and misinformation, the more dangerous the world becomes for the rest of us to live in.
I describe myself as a pacifist. I don't agree with war, prefering dialogue over killing any day. But what I've come to realise in the days following the Sept 11th, is that there are some people in this world who are not interested in dialogue or talking. They've made their minds up that they are good, and the rest are evil, and that is that. That was a bit of a shock to me as I'd always thought reasoned discussion could solve any problem. Now I know it doesn't I'm all for exploring other ways of protecting society.
> YOU are deciding what are good, proper ideas
It's not exactly a difficult thing to measure is it. If someone promotes religious or racial superiority over someone else, it's wrong, period. And we've seen first hand where that kind of thinking leads us ; down the road of Ethnic Cleansing (what a disgusting label that is) and human attrocity.
To all you proponents of - "free speech will fix everything because the truth will win out" - that are replying to this post in droves... consider my question.
Consider how many 10's of thousands of people there are round the world right now who look at Bin Laden as a hero! Heck, there are even some that think Sept 11th was a Zionist plot. I actually saw a guy in a Pakistani studio trying to argue this point on live TV !
Are these people being won over by free speech? Are they putting aside their hatred and downing their weapons because constructive dialogue with the USA is turning their hearts? No, they are not !! Why? because they WANT to hear the message of those that demonise the USA.
Freedom of speech is not some magic bullet that will fix all the problems of the world. And in cases where it obviously isn't working, like in some parts or Europe, legislation is required to stem some of the flow of poison directed at the minds of our children.
have you. He gave a very informative account of what goes on in some parts of Europe, in an attempt to try and help you to understand why hate speach should not be tollerated.
But for you, the right to speak out is more important than the right to fight the spread of Evil. Hasn't Sept 11th taught you anything?
In the past I've used WesterUnion (plus others) and to date I've never used PayPal. I had been considering using them next time, just to try them out, but after reading the above I think I'll give them a miss.
At least you will have the satisfaction of knowing that PayPal are likely to loose a good deal more than $60 worth of future business as a result of your artical and the ripple effect it will have.
Have you considered contacting a lawyer? What PayPal have just done to you sounds dangerously like a criminal act of fraud to me!
Hmm.. I'm not going to waste a moderator point jacking this back up again, but this is NOT a Troll. The man has a point! This IS an Apple article, and MacOS X is supposed to be a click and point friendly face to Unix where you don't have to be a command line jockey to get things done.
Also, the 'read the code and fix it yourself' argument is starting to wear very thin, as both Linux and MacOS X can quite easily be found in the hands of non-techies these days.
To whoever mod'd this down as a troll.. shame on you, for not being more open minded!
Why do you say it sucks? I found the information presented to be very intelligently broken up over multiple, small, fast loading pages with lightweight pictures that painted a very effective visual description of the product!
If anything I think the worry is arse-about-face. It's the technologically advanced countries that are going to perfect nano weapons first. So if we are scared, the people of Middle Eastern countries should be terrified. Imagine a nano virus 10 times more powerful than Anthrax, geneticly keyed to only kill those of Pashtoon blood, or in order to get Bin Laden, those of Yemeni blood! It would be like using a smart nuclear bomb that would only hurt your enemies.
Imagine what could happen if weapons like this or the technology to produce them, got into the hands of western white supremacy groups, or christian fundamentalists!
If DirectFB becomes a viable alternative to X, GTK/GNOME and QT/KDE will be ported pretty quick. Thereby abstracting the applications written for them from the display type they will run on. There's already a non-X version of QT, so it won't be that hard.
With the majority of future Linux apps being either server based (and not needing a GUI) or written for the above toolkits, portability will not be an issue.
Besides which, dismissing DirectFB without giving it a chance is very unfair. The right thing is for us to have a choice of both, and then to let the best technology win.
Some stiff competition might even be good for X, after all, it's not done KDE or GNOME any harm has it!
Does anyone out there actually use them? I have a friend who uses them religiously and he's quite well known for amazing people with the amount of subject detail he's able to repeat on request.
The arguments for and against X.vs. DirectFB (or similar) have been bouncing around for a long time now, and show no sign of abating.
So I welcome this move; because the only way we're really going to know which direction the Linux community wants to take, is to have both options available; with GTK/GNOME and QT/KDE toolkit ports on offer.
Only then, when people can vote with their screens, will we get an answer as to whether or not there is a place for DirectFB in Linux's future.
So lets see the code and try it out for ourselves!
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Right on! Giving away the goodies for free and making money off the services isn't working for anyone. Those open source development companies that are making money are the ones who are using split licensing to split their product into bits that you pay for and bits you don't.
theKompany is a good example of this. You get most of their basic products for free, but if you want the extra bells and whistles that you need to be really productive, then you pay for the extras. Kivo's templates are a good example of this.
Do you actually know how much it costs to buy hardware, software and licenses in commercial organizations these days? It's outrageous! $1500 as a one off cost per development seat is nothing!
you obviously don't work in commercial software development or you wouldn't have this opinion. and if you do, then go talk to your boss about costs and how much his budget is.. you'll get a shock.
I'm really starting to get hacked off by this argument. $1500 is NOT overpriced in a commercial software development setting. It's peanuts, pocket change, it's nothing!!
I just finished doing a job where the development group were paying more than that for a consultant from Oracle to do development work on site, per DAY !!
So GNOME doesn't work for you, and KDE falls over all the time too. Interesting that, especially as the majority of people don't seem to have your problems.
Perhaps your problems are machine specific.. i.e. you've shagged your installation and have an unstable mix of software.
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That's rubbish. The amount of money the Trolls charge for a commercial QT development license is so insignificant to a company like Sun that it wouldn't even cause the most junior manager to blink.
What it basicly boils down to is one or more decision making people were in the right place at the right time to choose GNOME because they were 'C' heads, not 'C++' heads. i.e. personal (and probably emotional) preference.
If Scott M actually sat down with two desktops side by side and ran them both for a couple of days, he'd realise he's been conned.
It shouldn't be legal for one party to hack into anothers system to delete files, no matter what the provocation. These people sound like the pigs from Orwell's Animal Farm.. one rule for them and another for everyone else. Do they think they are above the law?
That kind of thinking is both disgusting and dangerous!
Are these really important ?
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And is it the lack of features like this that are holding back the 1.0 release? Apart from the SOCKS stuff, surely none of these are essential for a first stable version!
I'm serious. Why are frilly extras like column ordering via drag and drop being worked on at this late stage. Shouldn't this thing be in feature freeze by now?
Had Microsoft chosen to keep the base OS fairly light, and instead bundled all the extras like Outlook, MediaPlayer, IE, themes, etc in the OS Plus pack, then they would have avoided all this mess and come out of it richer and stronger.
The value proposition for buying the plus pack would have been too compelling to ignore for the majority of people, and the combined revenue from both products would have generated much more cash.
Also, no one could have accused them of bundling with the operating system, so there probably wouldn't have been a law suit in the first place.
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Clusters are clusters, but not all clusters are equal.
You have high speed compute clusters like Beowulf.
Then there's the first type of High Availability clusters -- the hot standby/failover configuration, where services and storage on one system are reassigned and restarted by another if the first goes away. Most Unix and Linux implementations haven't got beyond this yet.
Then there's the more grown up version of High Availability clusters, where all the clustered systems have concurrent access to the same storage, cluster wide lock management, and can run multiple cooperating instances of the same application on all systems. Like Oracle Parallel Server. VMS pioneered this ; Tru64 Unix has it now, and Linux is working towards it with GFS (the Global FileSystem).
GFS has got to be one of the most exciting current Linux developments in my book. I've had a taste of this kind of clustering on Tru64 Unix, and believe me, once you've experienced it you don't want to go back.
Oh dear, if this is the way all CDs go then I'm screwed. When setting up my home Cinema system I got a DVD player with dual lasers so that I'd get good quality CD play. This is then hooked up to a Yamaha Radio+Amp and Boss Accustimas speaker system. Then I ditched my old Hi-Fi because I no longer need it.
The only place I listen to CD's is in the Car, on my PC in the Office and on my DVD player in the lounge. So I'm going to be relegated to only listening to new music in the car! Even this might be compromised. With car crime being what it is, I don't often want to leave expensive original CD's in the car, so sometimes burn a copy for car use only. I'm within my personal copy rights to do that aren't I?
So basicly I could be really screwed over by this
I don't think you understand. The people this proposed legislation is aimed at, are not people who offer an alternative point of view, and then try to bring this to fruition via the ballet box. If that was all they did, there would be no problem.
What they do is incite hatred, human division and violence, setting man against man. Perhaps if I label them "domestic terrorists" you'll get the idea. Think of their 'freedom of speech' as freedom to spread propoganda. Yes, propoganda, because to them it IS a war!
> You know, this reads almost EXACTLY like a
> statement from a fundamentalist school board
> when they published a list of books that our
> school library couldn't carry.
I doubt very much that the fundamentalist school board you're talking about advocate race and religious hatred and the taking of human life.
The more these people are left unchecked to recuit more to their cause through lies and misinformation, the more dangerous the world becomes for the rest of us to live in.
I describe myself as a pacifist. I don't agree with war, prefering dialogue over killing any day. But what I've come to realise in the days following the Sept 11th, is that there are some people in this world who are not interested in dialogue or talking. They've made their minds up that they are good, and the rest are evil, and that is that. That was a bit of a shock to me as I'd always thought reasoned discussion could solve any problem. Now I know it doesn't I'm all for exploring other ways of protecting society.
> YOU are deciding what are good, proper ideas
It's not exactly a difficult thing to measure is it. If someone promotes religious or racial superiority over someone else, it's wrong, period. And we've seen first hand where that kind of thinking leads us ; down the road of Ethnic Cleansing (what a disgusting label that is) and human attrocity.
To all you proponents of - "free speech will fix everything because the truth will win out" - that are replying to this post in droves
Consider how many 10's of thousands of people there are round the world right now who look at Bin Laden as a hero! Heck, there are even some that think Sept 11th was a Zionist plot. I actually saw a guy in a Pakistani studio trying to argue this point on live TV !
Are these people being won over by free speech? Are they putting aside their hatred and downing their weapons because constructive dialogue with the USA is turning their hearts? No, they are not !! Why? because they WANT to hear the message of those that demonise the USA.
Freedom of speech is not some magic bullet that will fix all the problems of the world. And in cases where it obviously isn't working, like in some parts or Europe, legislation is required to stem some of the flow of poison directed at the minds of our children.
I totally agree with at-b in his article.
have you. He gave a very informative account of what goes on in some parts of Europe, in an attempt to try and help you to understand why hate speach should not be tollerated.
But for you, the right to speak out is more important than the right to fight the spread of Evil. Hasn't Sept 11th taught you anything?
In the past I've used WesterUnion (plus others) and to date I've never used PayPal. I had been considering using them next time, just to try them out, but after reading the above I think I'll give them a miss.
At least you will have the satisfaction of knowing that PayPal are likely to loose a good deal more than $60 worth of future business as a result of your artical and the ripple effect it will have.
Have you considered contacting a lawyer? What PayPal have just done to you sounds dangerously like a criminal act of fraud to me!
Hmm
Also, the 'read the code and fix it yourself' argument is starting to wear very thin, as both Linux and MacOS X can quite easily be found in the hands of non-techies these days.
To whoever mod'd this down as a troll
Why do you say it sucks? I found the information presented to be very intelligently broken up over multiple, small, fast loading pages with lightweight pictures that painted a very effective visual description of the product!
Define sucks!
(see subject)
If anything I think the worry is arse-about-face. It's the technologically advanced countries that are going to perfect nano weapons first. So if we are scared, the people of Middle Eastern countries should be terrified. Imagine a nano virus 10 times more powerful than Anthrax, geneticly keyed to only kill those of Pashtoon blood, or in order to get Bin Laden, those of Yemeni blood! It would be like using a smart nuclear bomb that would only hurt your enemies.
Imagine what could happen if weapons like this or the technology to produce them, got into the hands of western white supremacy groups, or christian fundamentalists!
What a nightmare for the human race!
I'm sure IBM wouldn't mind hosting it as Linux is very much their strategy these days, and the cost is peanuts to them.
If DirectFB becomes a viable alternative to X, GTK/GNOME and QT/KDE will be ported pretty quick. Thereby abstracting the applications written for them from the display type they will run on. There's already a non-X version of QT, so it won't be that hard.
With the majority of future Linux apps being either server based (and not needing a GUI) or written for the above toolkits, portability will not be an issue.
Besides which, dismissing DirectFB without giving it a chance is very unfair. The right thing is for us to have a choice of both, and then to let the best technology win.
Some stiff competition might even be good for X, after all, it's not done KDE or GNOME any harm has it!
.. it took me about 5 seconds. msn.com (and only msn.com) see's me as:
UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)
Alias: Internet Explorer 5.01 on Windows 2000
.. but I'm actually running Konqueror in KDE 2.2.1 on Linux. What a waste of time MS
so you should be able to set an ID just for MSN without skewing the rest of the worlds perception of which flavour browsers really are out there.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned mind maps yet.
Does anyone out there actually use them? I have a friend who uses them religiously and he's quite well known for amazing people with the amount of subject detail he's able to repeat on request.
A phrase we used to use a lot in my old job.
The arguments for and against X
So I welcome this move; because the only way we're really going to know which direction the Linux community wants to take, is to have both options available; with GTK/GNOME and QT/KDE toolkit ports on offer.
Only then, when people can vote with their screens, will we get an answer as to whether or not there is a place for DirectFB in Linux's future.
So lets see the code and try it out for ourselves!
Right on! Giving away the goodies for free and making money off the services isn't working for anyone. Those open source development companies that are making money are the ones who are using split licensing to split their product into bits that you pay for and bits you don't.
theKompany is a good example of this. You get most of their basic products for free, but if you want the extra bells and whistles that you need to be really productive, then you pay for the extras. Kivo's templates are a good example of this.
Do you actually know how much it costs to buy hardware, software and licenses in commercial organizations these days? It's outrageous! $1500 as a one off cost per development seat is nothing!
you obviously don't work in commercial software development or you wouldn't have this opinion. and if you do, then go talk to your boss about costs and how much his budget is
I'm really starting to get hacked off by this argument. $1500 is NOT overpriced in a commercial software development setting. It's peanuts, pocket change, it's nothing!!
I just finished doing a job where the development group were paying more than that for a consultant from Oracle to do development work on site, per DAY !!
So GNOME doesn't work for you, and KDE falls over all the time too. Interesting that, especially as the majority of people don't seem to have your problems.
Perhaps your problems are machine specific
That's rubbish. The amount of money the Trolls charge for a commercial QT development license is so insignificant to a company like Sun that it wouldn't even cause the most junior manager to blink.
What it basicly boils down to is one or more decision making people were in the right place at the right time to choose GNOME because they were 'C' heads, not 'C++' heads. i.e. personal (and probably emotional) preference.
If Scott M actually sat down with two desktops side by side and ran them both for a couple of days, he'd realise he's been conned.
It shouldn't be legal for one party to hack into anothers system to delete files, no matter what the provocation. These people sound like the pigs from Orwell's Animal Farm
That kind of thinking is both disgusting and dangerous!
And is it the lack of features like this that are holding back the 1.0 release? Apart from the SOCKS stuff, surely none of these are essential for a first stable version!
I'm serious. Why are frilly extras like column ordering via drag and drop being worked on at this late stage. Shouldn't this thing be in feature freeze by now?
Had Microsoft chosen to keep the base OS fairly light, and instead bundled all the extras like Outlook, MediaPlayer, IE, themes, etc in the OS Plus pack, then they would have avoided all this mess and come out of it richer and stronger.
The value proposition for buying the plus pack would have been too compelling to ignore for the majority of people, and the combined revenue from both products would have generated much more cash.
Also, no one could have accused them of bundling with the operating system, so there probably wouldn't have been a law suit in the first place.
Hind sight is a wonderful thing