"For me, it means I can do most of the security patches from a CD rather than connecting an unpatched OS to the net to download a mess of patches. The fewer patches I need to add is less time exposed. SP2 helps alot, but I've had machines owned before they could finish downloading the service packs and patches..."
Here's how I proceed (and it may be more of a hassle than having everything in the latest SP, but there will always be patches after the SP anyway):
- The installation is slipstreamed with the latest SP available (so I install XP with SP2 already in it) - For workstation machines I install the firewall (ZoneAlarm Free usually) and configure it to block all traffic, but microsoft.com - I download the updates, restart, unblock the Internet and done.
Of course there ARE things that could go through the firewall potentially, but I've never had issues so far.
BTW this "What? Marketing != Truth?" happy "I'll bend over ansd fuck me in the *ss" attitude of modern consumers has always left me surprised.
Here's the definition of marketing for those who forgot it:
MARKETING includes identifying unmet needs; producing products and services to meet those needs: and pricing, distributing, and promoting those products and services to produce a profit.
It doesn't say "MARKETING includes lies to make the product seem like something it's not".
.. why the heck is the periodic Service Pack shot so essential to you?
With the exception of SP2 for XP which was a larger kind of initiative, all service packs are just a combo of the latest patches in a single package.
If Microsoft was just going after the SP demanding frenzy they can always pack the WMF update with few other bugfixes, call it XP SP3 and be done with it.
With the advance of Internet, it's just a lot less essential to pack changes as "service packs" anymore. Did we have autoupdates over the Internet back when NT4 ruled? Well that might explain why it had 6 SP's where Windows 2000 had 4.
"The Merom and Conroe chips later this year will be complete redesigns and are expected to trump even the Yonah in performance and power usage. This Core Duo release is more of a stopgap. I great one that is worth it, but there is even better stuff coming down the line."
The "2x to 4x faster" and "twice as faster, twice as amazing" was targeted to Yonah aka Pentium M aka Core Duo chips, and that'd be enough to rest my case.
If not, browse around and find that Apple ad with the steam roller crashing PC laptops with the bold statement "The entire PC laptop world has been flattened as Apple introduces the most powerful laptop in the world - powered by PowerPC processor".
"Actually it is a very different chip. Why do some people think Apple making fun of the Pentium (remember the original? 60/66/75/90/100 MHz? THAT Pentium) 10 years ago for being inferior has ANY BEARING AT ALL on the quality of the latest revision of the Pentium-M."
Actually if you have to put things in perspective, I have most of the Apple ads in a CD around here and I can tell you that they've consistenly made fun of Pentium 1, 2, 3 and 4:)
Core Duo *IS* the new name for the iteration in the Pentium M line (which also replaces NetBurst aka P4). And the Pentium M line is extremely close and the successor to the Pentium 3 line.
In fact Pentium M and Pentium 3 have tons more in common than Pentium 3 and 4 ever had.
But for the sake of my nerved I really don't want to get into that any deeper.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe anyone will be hardpressed to find analog to Apple's arrogant marketing and ads when it comes to making fun of their competitors in most inappropriate of ways.
Their latest example is their Intel ad calling PC's "dull little boxes performing their dull little tasks".
If I was Apple I'd be ashamed that after long years making fun of the Pentiums, and how hot and slow they are, they are forced to switch to them, since they in fact ARE the better processors.
"A new startup aims to provide you with a piece of software that stores all of your sufing habits. Where you go, how long you stay, how many hours online you spend surfing, etc. Why?"
Here's few why:
- So it can gain user's trust, but is in fact glorified spyware - So police has an easy storage to inspect should RIAA/MPAA decide to sue you for visiting pirate torrent trackers, grokster.com or other such activity (hey, you're not anonymous! they, OMG, they got your IP!!) - So malware has an easy storage to collect user info for it and send it out, instead of collecting it itself.
"If Apple's going to be commodity CPU on the server front, then there's no incentive on the hardware front to pay for Apple."
While many people buy Apple because it's cute, nice, interesting or rare, this never drove the server sales anyway. Name one sane admin who bases his server choice based on whether its CPU is commodity or rare.
What matters is price/performance ratio, and Apple never shined there... Servers just ain't their thing.
Thing is that Disney's new CEO, Robert Iger, announced the ABC deal without bothering to tell their network affiliates about it.
What mostly worried them was the "for sale the day after air" policy, which the affiliates argued will ruin their prime time ratings, since who'll watch TV when they can go buy it the next day (ya sounds absurd, especially in the context of this slashdot article).
Check this article on Slashdot, talking about how Disney's new CEO "managed to piss most of Hollywood", regarding the iPod video sales:
"While he restored Disney's relationship with Steve Jobs by agreeing to offer downloadable TV shows, we noted that this caught all the ABC affiliates by surprise, and they freaked out at the thought people might just download the shows instead of watching them on TV (despite, of course, the cost advantage to watching them or recording them off the TV). Turns out it wasn't just the affiliates that Iger forgot to let in on the secret. Actors, writers and directors are all up in arms and are collectively demanding that they get a piece of every $1.99 for every TV show sold through iTunes. In other words, even if Apple is actually making any money at $2/show, it's unlikely to last very long."
"TV Week reports on NBC's claims that iTunes downloads are boosting ratings for their primetime shows."
This comes after weeks long scandals by the TV networks that the iPod videos would ruin their ratings.
Well this is great, because MPAA and RIAA will finally acknowledge the need for legal instant internet movie downloads, and stop claiming that piracy costs them in the billions ignoring the promotion value! Not.
"Since he is using a 4x5 camera, that works out to a scanner resolution of 2400dpi. That is the kind of resolution of high-end film scanners, not a cheap flatbed (whatever the marketing material says)."
I browser the shops few days ago looking for combo scanner/printer and I can confirm there's a load of 2400dpi scanners + printer for about a hundred of dollars or less.
"Actually, as a forth programmer, I can tell you 2 + is a stack underflow error, 2 * is also a stack underflow error, and then 2 is 2. So the answer is 2."
Good. But 2 = 6 so I guess both Excel and you are right:
Suppose:
a + b = c Multiply the equation by 4:
4a + 4b = 4c This can be written as:
6a - 2a + 6b - 2b = 6c - 2c Reorganising:
6a + 6b - 6c = 2a + 2b - 2c Constants before brackets:
6 * (a+b-c) = 2 * (a+b-c) Remove the same term left/right:
6 = 2
"'m honestly not trying to troll here, but wouldn't it be easier to rewrite IE from the ground up?"
Also not to troll but wanted to add that they actually did rewrite a browser from the ground up. And their new platform comprises the following core technologies (I might be missing some):
dot NET 2 Avalon Indigo
Some probably know that part of the reason IE6 got stuck in development for so long is that most of the IE team was transferred to work on the above vista technologies.
This is how Microsoft sees the Internet, rewritten from the ground up.. including rewritten standards and approach to design.
IE is mostly included to keep market share and compatibility with older products that use it. That said, IE7 seems to be steadily going in the right direction and I hope Microsoft somehow shakes off that "we gotta reinvent the wheel" pattern once Vista is out, and work on both improving their own technology (which is great, no doubt, except that it's mostly Windows-specific) and support for the existing web standards.
I hope my question is not too technical, but here goes:
One of the most important innovations in Vista regarding security is the revised user/privileges system, including the new "limited" mode IE (and potentially other web apps) will run in.
The basic goal is that even if IE has a flaw which allows malicious code to run from the browser, that it will not have the privileges to read/write/execute code, with the exception of writing in the IE temp files folder (the cache).
However to allow the IE plugins and IE itself to go on its business (such as download files to where the user wants), special 'broker' processes were introduced IE to talk to.
Apparently those processes have higher privileges. So if IE can command them to download code, doesn't it render the point about the privileges protection moot. If not why.
And another such concern. I suppose the limited IE mode applies only when the mshtml engine is launched from within the "official" IE shell.
However many apps use that shell, and since the malicious code retains the ability to write to the Temp Files, won't it be possible the reuse of "infected" cache via embeded IE to raise the privileges for execution and infect the system anyway.
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"For me, it means I can do most of the security patches from a CD rather than connecting an unpatched OS to the net to download a mess of patches. The fewer patches I need to add is less time exposed. SP2 helps alot, but I've had machines owned before they could finish downloading the service packs and patches..."
Here's how I proceed (and it may be more of a hassle than having everything in the latest SP, but there will always be patches after the SP anyway):
- The installation is slipstreamed with the latest SP available (so I install XP with SP2 already in it)
- For workstation machines I install the firewall (ZoneAlarm Free usually) and configure it to block all traffic, but microsoft.com
- I download the updates, restart, unblock the Internet and done.
Of course there ARE things that could go through the firewall potentially, but I've never had issues so far.
BTW this "What? Marketing != Truth?" happy "I'll bend over ansd fuck me in the *ss" attitude of modern consumers has always left me surprised.
Here's the definition of marketing for those who forgot it:
MARKETING includes identifying unmet needs; producing products and services to meet those needs: and pricing, distributing, and promoting those products and services to produce a profit.
It doesn't say "MARKETING includes lies to make the product seem like something it's not".
.. why the heck is the periodic Service Pack shot so essential to you?
With the exception of SP2 for XP which was a larger kind of initiative, all service packs are just a combo of the latest patches in a single package.
If Microsoft was just going after the SP demanding frenzy they can always pack the WMF update with few other bugfixes, call it XP SP3 and be done with it.
With the advance of Internet, it's just a lot less essential to pack changes as "service packs" anymore. Did we have autoupdates over the Internet back when NT4 ruled? Well that might explain why it had 6 SP's where Windows 2000 had 4.
"The Merom and Conroe chips later this year will be complete redesigns and are expected to trump even the Yonah in performance and power usage. This Core Duo release is more of a stopgap. I great one that is worth it, but there is even better stuff coming down the line."
The "2x to 4x faster" and "twice as faster, twice as amazing" was targeted to Yonah aka Pentium M aka Core Duo chips, and that'd be enough to rest my case.
If not, browse around and find that Apple ad with the steam roller crashing PC laptops with the bold statement "The entire PC laptop world has been flattened as Apple introduces the most powerful laptop in the world - powered by PowerPC processor".
It still makes me laugh, and still pisses me off.
"Actually it is a very different chip. Why do some people think Apple making fun of the Pentium (remember the original? 60/66/75/90/100 MHz? THAT Pentium) 10 years ago for being inferior has ANY BEARING AT ALL on the quality of the latest revision of the Pentium-M."
:)
Actually if you have to put things in perspective, I have most of the Apple ads in a CD around here and I can tell you that they've consistenly made fun of Pentium 1, 2, 3 and 4
Core Duo *IS* the new name for the iteration in the Pentium M line (which also replaces NetBurst aka P4). And the Pentium M line is extremely close and the successor to the Pentium 3 line.
In fact Pentium M and Pentium 3 have tons more in common than Pentium 3 and 4 ever had.
But for the sake of my nerved I really don't want to get into that any deeper.
"Apple didn't switch to the Pentium. They switched to the Core Duo, which is a very different chip."
Yea, in AppleWorld you slap it with a new name and it becomes A Very Different Chip.
But in reality this a dual-core Pentium M chip with some enhancements in branch prediction/power saving. Better but still a Pentium M.
"Not just Apple"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe anyone will be hardpressed to find analog to Apple's arrogant marketing and ads when it comes to making fun of their competitors in most inappropriate of ways.
Their latest example is their Intel ad calling PC's "dull little boxes performing their dull little tasks".
If I was Apple I'd be ashamed that after long years making fun of the Pentiums, and how hot and slow they are, they are forced to switch to them, since they in fact ARE the better processors.
"A new startup aims to provide you with a piece of software that stores all of your sufing habits. Where you go, how long you stay, how many hours online you spend surfing, etc. Why?"
Here's few why:
- So it can gain user's trust, but is in fact glorified spyware
- So police has an easy storage to inspect should RIAA/MPAA decide to sue you for visiting pirate torrent trackers, grokster.com or other such activity (hey, you're not anonymous! they, OMG, they got your IP!!)
- So malware has an easy storage to collect user info for it and send it out, instead of collecting it itself.
"If Apple's going to be commodity CPU on the server front, then there's no incentive on the hardware front to pay for Apple."
While many people buy Apple because it's cute, nice, interesting or rare, this never drove the server sales anyway.
Name one sane admin who bases his server choice based on whether its CPU is commodity or rare.
What matters is price/performance ratio, and Apple never shined there... Servers just ain't their thing.
"So when did this change?"
:(
One day people may wise up and realize that most of what Apple says, Apple doesn't deem necessary to be based on reality
Thing is that Disney's new CEO, Robert Iger, announced the ABC deal without bothering to tell their network affiliates about it.
_ F.shtml
What mostly worried them was the "for sale the day after air" policy, which the affiliates argued will ruin their prime time ratings, since who'll watch TV when they can go buy it the next day (ya sounds absurd, especially in the context of this slashdot article).
Check this article on Slashdot, talking about how Disney's new CEO "managed to piss most of Hollywood", regarding the iPod video sales:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20051014/1856227
"While he restored Disney's relationship with Steve Jobs by agreeing to offer downloadable TV shows, we noted that this caught all the ABC affiliates by surprise, and they freaked out at the thought people might just download the shows instead of watching them on TV (despite, of course, the cost advantage to watching them or recording them off the TV). Turns out it wasn't just the affiliates that Iger forgot to let in on the secret. Actors, writers and directors are all up in arms and are collectively demanding that they get a piece of every $1.99 for every TV show sold through iTunes. In other words, even if Apple is actually making any money at $2/show, it's unlikely to last very long."
"No, I don't find it any more itimidating then computer geeks referring to a "slave" hard drive. "
Why do you think SATA was invented? The slave disk were ready to go on a strike any moment now.
"ITunes is one way to bring fresh eyeballs to the network, he said, in particular the younger demo that uses video iPods."
Don't you find it especially intimidating TV execs when they refer to people as eyeballs?
"TV Week reports on NBC's claims that iTunes downloads are boosting ratings for their primetime shows."
This comes after weeks long scandals by the TV networks that the iPod videos would ruin their ratings.
Well this is great, because MPAA and RIAA will finally acknowledge the need for legal instant internet movie downloads, and stop claiming that piracy costs them in the billions ignoring the promotion value! Not.
"Since he is using a 4x5 camera, that works out to a scanner resolution of 2400dpi. That is the kind of resolution of high-end film scanners, not a cheap flatbed (whatever the marketing material says)."
I browser the shops few days ago looking for combo scanner/printer and I can confirm there's a load of 2400dpi scanners + printer for about a hundred of dollars or less.
"It's been 20 years, it'll happen Any Day Now, right?"
I'll just say this: there's already widely spread copy of Tiger running on PC's, and all PC virus/malware writers are currently checking it out.
You may be joking with my post, but not long from now the joke will be on you.
Someone tell HardOCP.com, so they can be the first to flame it (as always)
"yup. lots of crazy things happen when you divide by zero." :P You guys keep spoiling my fun, but prove that wrong then:
You have one haystack. If you add one more haystack to it, the result is again one haystack.
Therefore, 1 + 1 = 1
"14GB of MP3s? I'd bet that one in three Slashdotters has at least that much."
;)
When translated from DontSueMe to English this goes like: "14GB of MP3s? I have at least as much."
"Actually, as a forth programmer, I can tell you 2 + is a stack underflow error, 2 * is also a stack underflow error, and then 2 is 2. So the answer is 2."
Good. But 2 = 6 so I guess both Excel and you are right:
Suppose:
a + b = c
Multiply the equation by 4:
4a + 4b = 4c
This can be written as:
6a - 2a + 6b - 2b = 6c - 2c
Reorganising:
6a + 6b - 6c = 2a + 2b - 2c
Constants before brackets:
6 * (a+b-c) = 2 * (a+b-c)
Remove the same term left/right:
6 = 2
"This is a joke right?"
:)
Yea it's in fact an old Excel joke I thought everyone knew.
But instead I come back, find the post modded -1 Troll, and about a bunch of posts carefully explaining operator precedence to me.
So the joke's on me
Try this in a calculator: 2+2*2. Every dipshit knows that 2+2 = 4, and then 4 * 2 is 8.
Now type it in Excel and it gives you 6!
"'m honestly not trying to troll here, but wouldn't it be easier to rewrite IE from the ground up?"
Also not to troll but wanted to add that they actually did rewrite a browser from the ground up. And their new platform comprises the following core technologies (I might be missing some):
dot NET 2
Avalon
Indigo
Some probably know that part of the reason IE6 got stuck in development for so long is that most of the IE team was transferred to work on the above vista technologies.
This is how Microsoft sees the Internet, rewritten from the ground up.. including rewritten standards and approach to design.
IE is mostly included to keep market share and compatibility with older products that use it. That said, IE7 seems to be steadily going in the right direction and I hope Microsoft somehow shakes off that "we gotta reinvent the wheel" pattern once Vista is out, and work on both improving their own technology (which is great, no doubt, except that it's mostly Windows-specific) and support for the existing web standards.
I hope my question is not too technical, but here goes:
One of the most important innovations in Vista regarding security is the revised user/privileges system, including the new "limited" mode IE (and potentially other web apps) will run in.
The basic goal is that even if IE has a flaw which allows malicious code to run from the browser, that it will not have the privileges to read/write/execute code, with the exception of writing in the IE temp files folder (the cache).
However to allow the IE plugins and IE itself to go on its business (such as download files to where the user wants), special 'broker' processes were introduced IE to talk to.
Apparently those processes have higher privileges. So if IE can command them to download code, doesn't it render the point about the privileges protection moot. If not why.
And another such concern. I suppose the limited IE mode applies only when the mshtml engine is launched from within the "official" IE shell.
However many apps use that shell, and since the malicious code retains the ability to write to the Temp Files, won't it be possible the reuse of "infected" cache via embeded IE to raise the privileges for execution and infect the system anyway.
Thanks.
I picked it randomly but it's not XP, as it neither standard antialias nor ClearType (and XP has no other rendering system).