"The US is a huge net exporter of copyrighted materials."
The US is a huge exporter of misinformation, violent and negative media, and disrespect of others human rights. What laws do they now test against the Bill of Rights, not even their own domestic laws.
Yes, there have been "wrappers" to make some proprietary windows drivers work with Linux for years now. At this point everything cannot be open source, and neither is everything going to be proprietary, so at present there has to be some sort of software meeting point work around. (I know the open source fanatics will not agree with this.)
Eventually most common software will become a commodity, like say memory chips, and will be marketed as Software as a Service, instead of on a licensing model.
I generally agree with all of this, because I have the exact same issues, as an EX Windows user. Everything does just not load and work, because of this need to keep a clean line between OSS and propriety software.
So as a solution for commodity peripherals like printers, why can there not be a standard PC printer output like for monitors, and all the required firmware / hardware is actually inside the printer instead, and keep the propriety software outside the PC. For wireless that might be a bit of a stretch, because of the ever changing standards.
As for MP3s I just gave up on that, because of the breakage with every upgrade. I just converted all the MP3 files to OGG. In a couple or 3 more years I understand MP3 will be public domain, and this should no longer be an issue.
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For cost of doing business items such as IT it is usually the least NPV of expenditures calculation. Unless a company is actually in the IT "core" business there is no ROI or ROE on IT expentitures. But there is for investment in the "core" business.
As for the shareholders, a lot of these used to be institutions, like pension funds, trust funds etc. Because of the market whims, a lot of these are investing in non publically traded companies, and buying out complete control.
This usually ends up being better value investing, as most of the stock market is already overpriced by comparison. I know where I would want my pension fund to be, and that is not in the Vegas style stock market where everything is a gamble, with the odds not in my favor. I would prefer that it be in real value investing.
Seems that crop development continues, and that maize and rice each have more world tonnage than wheat now. You might notice here at this page link that there are now databases involved, and collaboration, maybe even HTML is involved as a part of a key communication tool, to interrogate and update the database. Do you think?
This could be said in fewer words. Like, treat people with dignity and respect and they will usually respond more positively and productively. Or just like the Google mantra "do no evil". And always of course the question, are there MS shills stirring up the pot? Sabotage by propaganda?
The heat is the wasted energy, when you only need light. It takes very little electricity to produce only light. Example: the two or three weeks continuous light from an ordinary LED flashlight. They are using LEDs for other than headlights in most new cars. A lot of the traffic lights are LEDs.
With some more development and commercialization LEDs will replace household light bulbs, and yes over time provide a significant energy savings.
Not a bad analysis, I agree with most of what you got here. Except I am still hopeful that people will eventually tire of the consumer and greed based economy and merry-go-round, and look at alternative and more equitable economic and social structures. Without having to experience any traumatic events, such as commodity shortages and resulting major wars. Not to mention possible weather increasingly traumatic events. As I see it, the IP, copyright, patent thing is only one step, and tiny part of the required total mind change.
I was using that more as an example, and not as such a personal experience. I was alluding to the need for social change through change of mindset. The old thought patterns around IP, copyright, patents etc. needs a big shake up, because if you observe, this is now detracting more from, than it is adding to social and economic progress. If the effort and money that is spent on maintaining these institutions, was spent on developing useful products and processes, society would be much further ahead.
It is the fast pace of change, and today's technologies that is making these so called protections less relevant, they now only slow progress down. There is probably a lot of patents in a typewriter, but where are all the IBM Selectras today?
"If you keep thinking what you always think, you will keep doing what you always do. If you keep doing what you always do you will keep getting what you always get".
No, No, just redefine what owning really means, so that it can be applied equally to everyone. Either everyone is somewhat creative and has the exclusive rights to their creativity, or no one has. If I create things where I work, do I own the results of my creativity or does the company that I work for own it? So why can I not copyright my work even though I created it, yet others can copyright theirs. Why is the concept of ownership and IP applied differently, in different scenarios?
For instance the origins of copyright is from the original printing press days. The King could control information, and at the same time grant favours to his buddies, by granting them only the right to own and operate printing presses. (copyrights) Why do we continue with this anachronism?
Either properly apply equal human rights to all human endeavours and move into the 21st century, but don't pretend that human rights are equitably applied when exclusivity is still possible. This is the result of a non-logical corrupted mindset.
A New World Order will require a completely new mindset, and completely new institutions. Especially about the understanding of the functions and workings of creation and creativity. The outmoded concepts about source and ownership of creativity will have to go.
Everything comes out of the earth, including every atom in the human body, you either grow it or you mine it, but it all comes out of the earth upon which we walk. And on the larger scale it all comes out of the cosmos.
If the earth is the source of a fruit or vegetable, does that mean that the earth "owns" that fruit or vegetable? Or has that potential always been in existence, and the fruit or vegetable just comes "through" the earth.
If I am the source of an idea or a creative work, does that mean that I "own" the idea or creative work. Or was it a result of the atoms in my body that originally came from the common earth, and the social and educational environment on that earth to which those atoms were exposed? In other words was the potential always there, and it would have expressed through someone else, even I never existed?
How can society ever be right, if corrupted and self centred mindsets do not eventually abate?
I didn't get that slant from reading the initial article. I think that "killer" was your terminology, and stated quite categorically, and not alluding to pundit hype.
What I get from the article is that most people carry cell phones anyway, so if the cell phone could be made into an effective multifunction device, (such as a satellite radio receiver, and a personal music player) why would anyone need to carry 2 devices. That factor if properly executed will be serious competition to the Ipod. Hence the rumblings (that I read elsewhere) about Apple getting into the cell phone business.
Internet Explorer killed Netscape, Excel killed Lotus Spreadsheet, Word killed Word Perfect, VHS killed Betamax, DVD killed VHS, CDs killed LPs, to name only a few in a long list. Where have you been?
The correct phrase (in the dictionary) is actually "wet your whistle", "whet" means sharpen or intensify desire. Also sharpen a tool. Just my contribution to all those "Internet English Professors".
Excellent, the last that I had heard about any such attempt as this was Esperanto, which didn't really cut it.
To have such a thing as a logical world language, they will need to get world Governments to buy into this concept, and teach it as a first written language in the schools. With native languages being secondary "cultural" languages only, used to maintain customs, and cultural and historic values.
Cultural and historic works from any country / language, could then be translated into this world language for all to read. International business could be conducted with ease, and no need for 20 different versions of world news casts. Could enjoy movies from any country, without subtitles. Only one spell and grammar checker required world wide, and it can actually be rule based, and always suggest the proper corrections. And voice command equipment, machines and vehicles could be an easy reality.
May even prevent wars and hostilities, by putting focus on human similarities, instead of the differences. Thanks for the link info.
Maybe we need a better rule based language without all the exception and deviation crap. One that is easy for people for whom it is not their native language to learn, like any "world class" language should be. Instead of this arcane and anachronistically inappropriate thing that all the snobby "Internet English Professors" try to cram down our throats. Access, excess, assess or affect, effect, are there not enough letters in the alphabet to make words that are more distinct sounding, and that a speech to text program could render 99.9% error free.
Maybe instead of you "Internet Language Professors" always trying to correct other people on the Internet, (to what useful purpose?), you could do something useful and develop an efficient Universal language, one that meets today's world (Internet communication) needs, and which a speech to text engine could efficiently render. A language that is easy and efficient, where there are not 10 words that essentially can have the same meaning, and yet have one word that can have 10 different meanings.
Just wait until there are structural failures, and people get killed because of this, like in South Korea. Then the big investigations and finger pointing is on. Projects are about cost, design, constructability, and safety. These components are all interdependent. But in terms of priorities safety should be first, but design and constructability can have a large impact on safety and also costs.
I think I saw something about Epoxy being used as a connecting agent. Most things degrade over time, concrete possibly being an exception, but especially things formed by non precise controlled chemical reaction, such as on site use of Epoxy.
But who creates the value today? The artists or the recording companies? The consumer pays for the music, if it is an enjoyable listen. They don't need to pay for the recording or promotion, because most of them already have that quality of recording technology themselves, and can do Google search.
I would pay an artist for music that I like, but why should I pay someone to record it. I can do that myself. It's about selling snow to Eskimos, the business model does not work. So with the help of the Government they create laws to make Eskimos buy snow. Create an electric light bulb tax to subsidize the candle makers.
Years ago there was all the whining and crying about the "sunset" industries, and surprisingly some that were identified turned out not to be "sunset" industries at all. Recording labels ARE in a "sunset" industry, they are just in "denial" about the inevitability of that.
Ah, you are talking about a different kind of personal incentive here, the original discussion was about science and knowledge for it's own sake. You are discussing persons of a different nature, with a different kind of motive. The how to get there had to be solved first, (by the scientist or the practitioner) before the how to make money at it (by the business man) could even be considered. You are saying that Columbus was not a scientist, he was a business man, maybe so, because someone else probably built the ships. In any case it all added to collective knowledge.
I don't think that I mentioned the wind, I believe I made mention of the science of how to use air. There are many subtle aspects to that science, starting with what was learned about sailing and windmills. Jets engines use air, and hypersonic engines and scram jets use different aspects of that same air, airplanes use yet another aspect of air to fly. But none of this happens without knowing about the various behaviours of, or the science of air. All starting with the sailing ships that made many trips between N. America and Europe.
I think you started off by suggesting that a few trips between the earth and the moon will not lead to anything useful. I am saying look at history, because that outlook is short sighted. Everything evolves from what went before, including all human knowledge. We are all descendants of Dinosaurs. If we do not explore the bottom of the ocean then we will never learn how to do that, if we do not explore local space, then we will never learn how to explore outer space. Just an observation, but that is how human knowledge seems to evolve. If you don't actually do it, you don't actually learn, so then there is no knowledge base to build on, and move forward from. If all we did was make beer, then all we would be is really great beer makers.
All Columbus had was some crude sailing ships and took about 6 weeks for the trip. Now we can make that same trip in less than 6 hours. Has there been no progress or possibilities here? I say again, we have to learn to crawl before we walk, or is there some lack of vision of the possibilities from the analogy here. No, the moon is not literally on the way to the stars, but it is figuratively and progressively, just like Columbus had nothing to do with aeroplanes literally, but he did progressively. Do both aeroplanes and sailing ships not both require some knowledge of the science of how to use air? Like we would have leaped straight to zeppelins and aeroplanes without any knowledge gained from sailing ships and wind mills.
We don't use sailing ships any more, but they had their vital place in progress, or has this observation escaped you? The difference between those who say why? and those who say why not? is usually lack of vision and lack of action. What if Columbus had no vision, would the N. American natives then have colonized Europe?
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"The US is a huge net exporter of copyrighted materials."
The US is a huge exporter of misinformation, violent and negative media, and disrespect of others human rights. What laws do they now test against the Bill of Rights, not even their own domestic laws.
In typical Japanese uniformity, "the nail that sticks up gets hammered down".
Any Linux FUD from MS will be free advertising for Linux. Will end up making Linux a household name.
Yes, there have been "wrappers" to make some proprietary windows drivers work with Linux for years now. At this point everything cannot be open source, and neither is everything going to be proprietary, so at present there has to be some sort of software meeting point work around. (I know the open source fanatics will not agree with this.)
Eventually most common software will become a commodity, like say memory chips, and will be marketed as Software as a Service, instead of on a licensing model.
"but they have a right to not give that permission."
"Rights" are a fundamental to human affairs concept. (not to publishing) What publishers actually have is a "legal privilege" or a "term monopoly".
I generally agree with all of this, because I have the exact same issues, as an EX Windows user. Everything does just not load and work, because of this need to keep a clean line between OSS and propriety software.
So as a solution for commodity peripherals like printers, why can there not be a standard PC printer output like for monitors, and all the required firmware / hardware is actually inside the printer instead, and keep the propriety software outside the PC. For wireless that might be a bit of a stretch, because of the ever changing standards.
As for MP3s I just gave up on that, because of the breakage with every upgrade. I just converted all the MP3 files to OGG. In a couple or 3 more years I understand MP3 will be public domain, and this should no longer be an issue.
For cost of doing business items such as IT it is usually the least NPV of expenditures calculation. Unless a company is actually in the IT "core" business there is no ROI or ROE on IT expentitures. But there is for investment in the "core" business.
As for the shareholders, a lot of these used to be institutions, like pension funds, trust funds etc. Because of the market whims, a lot of these are investing in non publically traded companies, and buying out complete control.
This usually ends up being better value investing, as most of the stock market is already overpriced by comparison. I know where I would want my pension fund to be, and that is not in the Vegas style stock market where everything is a gamble, with the odds not in my favor. I would prefer that it be in real value investing.
Seems that crop development continues, and that maize and rice each have more world tonnage than wheat now. You might notice here at this page link that there are now databases involved, and collaboration, maybe even HTML is involved as a part of a key communication tool, to interrogate and update the database. Do you think?
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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-01/ir
This could be said in fewer words. Like, treat people with dignity and respect and they will usually respond more positively and productively. Or just like the Google mantra "do no evil". And always of course the question, are there MS shills stirring up the pot? Sabotage by propaganda?
The heat is the wasted energy, when you only need light. It takes very little electricity to produce only light. Example: the two or three weeks continuous light from an ordinary LED flashlight. They are using LEDs for other than headlights in most new cars. A lot of the traffic lights are LEDs.
With some more development and commercialization LEDs will replace household light bulbs, and yes over time provide a significant energy savings.
Not a bad analysis, I agree with most of what you got here. Except I am still hopeful that people will eventually tire of the consumer and greed based economy and merry-go-round, and look at alternative and more equitable economic and social structures. Without having to experience any traumatic events, such as commodity shortages and resulting major wars. Not to mention possible weather increasingly traumatic events. As I see it, the IP, copyright, patent thing is only one step, and tiny part of the required total mind change.
I was using that more as an example, and not as such a personal experience. I was alluding to the need for social change through change of mindset. The old thought patterns around IP, copyright, patents etc. needs a big shake up, because if you observe, this is now detracting more from, than it is adding to social and economic progress. If the effort and money that is spent on maintaining these institutions, was spent on developing useful products and processes, society would be much further ahead.
It is the fast pace of change, and today's technologies that is making these so called protections less relevant, they now only slow progress down. There is probably a lot of patents in a typewriter, but where are all the IBM Selectras today?
"If you keep thinking what you always think, you will keep doing what you always do. If you keep doing what you always do you will keep getting what you always get".
No, No, just redefine what owning really means, so that it can be applied equally to everyone. Either everyone is somewhat creative and has the exclusive rights to their creativity, or no one has. If I create things where I work, do I own the results of my creativity or does the company that I work for own it? So why can I not copyright my work even though I created it, yet others can copyright theirs. Why is the concept of ownership and IP applied differently, in different scenarios?
For instance the origins of copyright is from the original printing press days. The King could control information, and at the same time grant favours to his buddies, by granting them only the right to own and operate printing presses. (copyrights) Why do we continue with this anachronism?
Either properly apply equal human rights to all human endeavours and move into the 21st century, but don't pretend that human rights are equitably applied when exclusivity is still possible. This is the result of a non-logical corrupted mindset.
A New World Order will require a completely new mindset, and completely new institutions. Especially about the understanding of the functions and workings of creation and creativity. The outmoded concepts about source and ownership of creativity will have to go.
Everything comes out of the earth, including every atom in the human body, you either grow it or you mine it, but it all comes out of the earth upon which we walk. And on the larger scale it all comes out of the cosmos.
If the earth is the source of a fruit or vegetable, does that mean that the earth "owns" that fruit or vegetable? Or has that potential always been in existence, and the fruit or vegetable just comes "through" the earth.
If I am the source of an idea or a creative work, does that mean that I "own" the idea or creative work. Or was it a result of the atoms in my body that originally came from the common earth, and the social and educational environment on that earth to which those atoms were exposed? In other words was the potential always there, and it would have expressed through someone else, even I never existed?
How can society ever be right, if corrupted and self centred mindsets do not eventually abate?
And if we are to believe Darwin, then life forms mutate naturally. But there is a problem with human assisted mutation? Why? Because God didn't do it?
I didn't get that slant from reading the initial article. I think that "killer" was your terminology, and stated quite categorically, and not alluding to pundit hype.
What I get from the article is that most people carry cell phones anyway, so if the cell phone could be made into an effective multifunction device, (such as a satellite radio receiver, and a personal music player) why would anyone need to carry 2 devices. That factor if properly executed will be serious competition to the Ipod. Hence the rumblings (that I read elsewhere) about Apple getting into the cell phone business.
Internet Explorer killed Netscape, Excel killed Lotus Spreadsheet, Word killed Word Perfect, VHS killed Betamax, DVD killed VHS, CDs killed LPs, to name only a few in a long list.
Where have you been?
The correct phrase (in the dictionary) is actually "wet your whistle", "whet" means sharpen or intensify desire. Also sharpen a tool. Just my contribution to all those "Internet English Professors".
Excellent, the last that I had heard about any such attempt as this was Esperanto, which didn't really cut it.
To have such a thing as a logical world language, they will need to get world Governments to buy into this concept, and teach it as a first written language in the schools. With native languages being secondary "cultural" languages only, used to maintain customs, and cultural and historic values.
Cultural and historic works from any country / language, could then be translated into this world language for all to read. International business could be conducted with ease, and no need for 20 different versions of world news casts. Could enjoy movies from any country, without subtitles. Only one spell and grammar checker required world wide, and it can actually be rule based, and always suggest the proper corrections. And voice command equipment, machines and vehicles could be an easy reality.
May even prevent wars and hostilities, by putting focus on human similarities, instead of the differences. Thanks for the link info.
Maybe we need a better rule based language without all the exception and deviation crap. One that is easy for people for whom it is not their native language to learn, like any "world class" language should be. Instead of this arcane and anachronistically inappropriate thing that all the snobby "Internet English Professors" try to cram down our throats. Access, excess, assess or affect, effect, are there not enough letters in the alphabet to make words that are more distinct sounding, and that a speech to text program could render 99.9% error free.
Maybe instead of you "Internet Language Professors" always trying to correct other people on the Internet, (to what useful purpose?), you could do something useful and develop an efficient Universal language, one that meets today's world (Internet communication) needs, and which a speech to text engine could efficiently render. A language that is easy and efficient, where there are not 10 words that essentially can have the same meaning, and yet have one word that can have 10 different meanings.
Just wait until there are structural failures, and people get killed because of this, like in South Korea. Then the big investigations and finger pointing is on. Projects are about cost, design, constructability, and safety. These components are all interdependent. But in terms of priorities safety should be first, but design and constructability can have a large impact on safety and also costs.
I think I saw something about Epoxy being used as a connecting agent. Most things degrade over time, concrete possibly being an exception, but especially things formed by non precise controlled chemical reaction, such as on site use of Epoxy.
But who creates the value today? The artists or the recording companies? The consumer pays for the music, if it is an enjoyable listen. They don't need to pay for the recording or promotion, because most of them already have that quality of recording technology themselves, and can do Google search.
I would pay an artist for music that I like, but why should I pay someone to record it. I can do that myself. It's about selling snow to Eskimos, the business model does not work. So with the help of the Government they create laws to make Eskimos buy snow. Create an electric light bulb tax to subsidize the candle makers.
Years ago there was all the whining and crying about the "sunset" industries, and surprisingly some that were identified turned out not to be "sunset" industries at all. Recording labels ARE in a "sunset" industry, they are just in "denial" about the inevitability of that.
Ah, you are talking about a different kind of personal incentive here, the original discussion was about science and knowledge for it's own sake. You are discussing persons of a different nature, with a different kind of motive. The how to get there had to be solved first, (by the scientist or the practitioner) before the how to make money at it (by the business man) could even be considered. You are saying that Columbus was not a scientist, he was a business man, maybe so, because someone else probably built the ships. In any case it all added to collective knowledge.
I don't think that I mentioned the wind, I believe I made mention of the science of how to use air. There are many subtle aspects to that science, starting with what was learned about sailing and windmills. Jets engines use air, and hypersonic engines and scram jets use different aspects of that same air, airplanes use yet another aspect of air to fly. But none of this happens without knowing about the various behaviours of, or the science of air. All starting with the sailing ships that made many trips between N. America and Europe.
I think you started off by suggesting that a few trips between the earth and the moon will not lead to anything useful. I am saying look at history, because that outlook is short sighted. Everything evolves from what went before, including all human knowledge. We are all descendants of Dinosaurs. If we do not explore the bottom of the ocean then we will never learn how to do that, if we do not explore local space, then we will never learn how to explore outer space. Just an observation, but that is how human knowledge seems to evolve. If you don't actually do it, you don't actually learn, so then there is no knowledge base to build on, and move forward from. If all we did was make beer, then all we would be is really great beer makers.
All Columbus had was some crude sailing ships and took about 6 weeks for the trip. Now we can make that same trip in less than 6 hours. Has there been no progress or possibilities here? I say again, we have to learn to crawl before we walk, or is there some lack of vision of the possibilities from the analogy here. No, the moon is not literally on the way to the stars, but it is figuratively and progressively, just like Columbus had nothing to do with aeroplanes literally, but he did progressively. Do both aeroplanes and sailing ships not both require some knowledge of the science of how to use air? Like we would have leaped straight to zeppelins and aeroplanes without any knowledge gained from sailing ships and wind mills.
We don't use sailing ships any more, but they had their vital place in progress, or has this observation escaped you? The difference between those who say why? and those who say why not? is usually lack of vision and lack of action. What if Columbus had no vision, would the N. American natives then have colonized Europe?